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1541  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be profitable in long term ? on: July 15, 2017, 08:24:30 PM
I think not only in gambling but I think even in trading and investment we cannot give a 100% prediction. And the is only because that luck is always there in every profession, we mostly depend on our luck and no one can say any think about luck in advance. Therefore we cannot give 100% prediction. We can only speculate and forecast, in gambling no one know in advance that either in long run we can make money or not.

There is no way to give 100 % prediction of what is going on but we are sure that we are going to lose in the long term 100 % . We know this and I based on my experience is going to tell you guys that we wont really have any chance to win , that is why only play for fun and dont hope too much to win everytime you play

The sentence from me is not too complicated, but you can benefit without having to speculate about the percentage and the actual number that's just a prediction. Keep playing and do sharp analysis because gambling requires only nerve thought and comfort, if we can control it, emotional impulses will vanish.
1542  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Has gambling affected your life in a good way? on: July 15, 2017, 08:16:26 PM
Gambling has affected my life in both good and bad way. The good side of gambling is profit and fun. To clarify, nobody gets a sad face when they win or make fun.  Gambling is about making profit and having fun. You will always be affected by positive energy if you know how to gamble. It will become your source of happiness and fortune. Yet, it also can affect you in a bad way. LOSS, FAILURE. If you fail, you will be affected badly. You will lose all of your money, noting that some gamblers lost their whole fortune due to gambling. People will become addictive and greedy to gambling, and that's a really bad thing. But even if someone fails and loses everything, that's not the end. Mourn your failure, and start afresh. Gambling is not bad unless you know how to think.

You have to choose one side for a positive path, no matter how long you need that skill, I choose a good way and never give up facing losses in gambling, I never count all the money and keep studying every defeat I experience. Today is much better than before, and that's just by gambling.
1543  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: July 15, 2017, 08:08:28 PM
No matter how people build up a gambling thing, i would always vote for investment because the risk in investment can be mitigated through research and news and we can always avoid investment scheme like HYIP and Ponzi.  Unlike gambling if we already set our bet, we cannot remove the fact that it is either win or lose.  No back out unless we stop gambling.  But if we want to involve gambling in our investment, we can alway invest in casino bankroll.

When compared to ponzi, gambling investment is lighter and we are also involved in the process directly, bankroll is also one of the best manivest gambling form. I personally also choose the investment because in the end there is no more games in our lives, all will become more responsible.
1544  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Dump is not over yet on: July 15, 2017, 07:58:29 PM
I agreed... history would repeat itself, probably back to around $1500 before skyrocket again.

if its really down to $1,500, many traders will panic and they selling bitcoin so fast. i hope after down too deep, price will back and increase so traders which bought at that price, will make big profit. but i think market will not stable in august after segwit until the end of august and after august, altcoin will recover the price.

Every trader is on its feet and will not hesitate to push the sell button if they see the price is dumping so fast. We don't know what's the price floor, it might be below $2000 or even as low as $1700. Ethereum might go at $150. But I hope that everything will go on smoothly again after Aug 1. So that everyone will recover including our precious altcoins.

Announcement from market trading who advised not to trade on August 1st until further announcement, which means the result of indirect hardfork will stabilize bitcoin prices indefinitely, but I agree with you, the market needs to recover soon, but we cannot speculating nothing at the beginning of next month.
1545  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO][CARE4ME][CARECOIN] - FIRST PEER-2-PEER AT-HOME NURSING PLATFORM ! on: July 14, 2017, 11:36:38 AM
I'm delighted with the developer's full attention on this thread, I would like to ask why the distance ico presale and main ico is too far around 1 month, now many ico are successful only in a day. In the roadmap I also not see when this coin will be traded in the trading market.
1546  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: July 14, 2017, 11:26:06 AM
After sometime I have learned to accept loss without so much regret. The fun now is with the events, promotions and in dice games, hunting big payout rolls and boasting it on chat.

Even mere chatting is addictive especially to a site full of keyboard warriors. Cheesy

It is always fun to gamble that is why I keep doing it. I dont know how theothers are going to enjoy it but everytime I win it is fun for me. Imagine that someday I can get alot of money by trying my luck with a small amount? that is going to be very great day for me however I know that it probably wont happen to me because I have bad luck
i never think that there is always fun and entertainment in gambling, i think we can only feel fun and enjoyment in gambling if we are making money there. bub if there is no money in gambling and if we are losing money there the i think we feel gambling as one of the most boring activity of the world.
in one side,you are right,gambling not always fun,and also people can't be play it for always looking fun or entertaiment,but i think people can be really entertain and fun when they playing gambling without any decision,including money,they just make fun with it,play with some friends,make fun with some bets and its really fun for me.

I don't like think too long, I always try to enjoy gambling addiction as a hobby that continues to be developed with analysis, income-generating hobby is also one of the best factors in the economy, I just need input seriousness in that and never give up.
1547  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: It's freaking 2017 - Do you own 1 BTC? on: July 14, 2017, 11:21:14 AM
I remember several years ago similar poll was made and i was surprised most of the users answered NO.
In case your answer is still NO, I'd like to know what is your main reason not to own one bitcoin?

Im new here in this forum so i guess i will be having a hard time to earn 1 bitcoin with just a month. In addition the current payment rate for us, junior member, in signature campaigns is ranging with 0.00002-0.00005 BTC per post. I still have a long way to go to learn more about bitcoin and i hope that my earnings will also increase as my knowledge in bitcoin increases.

You can get them in altcoin signatures, even though their monthly releases are very long, some coins are able to produce one bitcoin if the price is high in the market and doesn't require high rank, don't give up to keep learning. Bitcoin signature results are only effective for full members and above. 1 btc can still be generated at this time.
1548  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you save bitcoin for fun or for future purpose? on: July 14, 2017, 11:12:50 AM
Bitcoin is good for future investment and I do saved some parts of my earning for future and if the price appreciate to were one bitcoin will be equal to $10,000 I will become millions in my local currency! Which I am speculating that before 2020 this should be in sight. We should serious save for future in other to become rich.

I'm not person who likes to think in the long run, I just think to make full profit in one year, after that new conversion can be predicted for next year and so on. I'm a daily speculator that makes a profit every day, I always sell and produce bitcoin in an instant.
1549  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is bitcoin is the new era of currency? on: July 14, 2017, 11:03:09 AM
Since bitcoin is trending now world wide because you can easily earn this and it exchange in real cash. Is bitcoin the new value of currency in the internet? Is he the new money? Can we use it in buying foods and etc in the future?

For me it yes but not totally sure because it not legalize in a country but i predicted and believe it become a new currency that use to exchange in other currency of money. For now as you can see, there is a lot use of bitcoin in economy.

Decentralization of knowledge and use around the world has been a good start for bitcoin, the negative status of bitcoin by governments does not prevent users from continuing to search for bitcoins. Bitcoin technology is not hard to learn. Bitcoin is the most phenomenal currency for the "new era"
1550  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What do you like best about bitcoin? on: July 11, 2017, 10:14:59 PM
The best for me about bitcoin was decentralization because it cant be steal or it cant be change,they made it by this so no one can change or steal it to anyone you own it.
Yes I too like the nature of the currency as you will never think of losing your wallet and somebody else can never steal your money from you. If you want purchase thing in other states you would just have visit their and at time just sign in and pay your desired amount without any tension of theft etc. because bitcoin is a decentralize currency it has the same value throughout the world.

My most preferred summary of decentralization is the slogan "to be your own bank", the crypto system is already against the current system of economic civilization, bitcoin has the power to bring about an economic revolution, no caste and group difference to bitcoin, all the same. I think one day fiat can not coexist with bitcoin.
1551  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC and other currency on the downfall on: July 11, 2017, 09:57:45 PM
Kind of having conflicts inside my mind. Hoping for bitcoin to drop low as it can because that would create an amazing opportunity for me to invest something since from July 16th I'd be able to invest money close to 1k euros, bit on the other hand, if bitcoin drops that low I might be having some trouble in other areas.

This august is going to be rather interesting.

The UASF result may be swallowing your mind deeply because the worst thing will happen is bitcoin prices will really down and have no value, this is why there is a panic wave from many users, the potential for big profits from bitcoin will be very small, similarly with altcoin, many people say bitcoin value will return to 2013.
1552  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is instant way to get rich ? on: July 11, 2017, 09:49:28 PM
Instant mode actually requires a basic understanding first, if you already understand, then just need to create a team to simplify all positions and skills, this is true to create altcoin project. Another way is to build a relationship for 2-10 people, teach them about bitcoin, you just have to ask them to register the exchange using your reff so that every transaction they do will be an advantage for you.
1553  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why BILL GATES do not USE Bitcoin? on: July 11, 2017, 03:07:18 PM
I think maybe this time Bill Gates looking for some peace and want to take a break from such affairs, you know he is very rich, he has everything and maybe he is confused to use his money.  Grin
He is now a philanthropist and not interested to gain money anymore because he had most of the money of the world and maybe too old to venture out on crypto. Maybe young generation billionaire will adopt btc just like mark Zuckerberg.

Business that he mastered is for the world of fiat, the world will be uproar when the owner of microsoft windows play bitcoin. But we need to know that bill gates is an active contributor to the development of bitcoin and blockchain, it proves that he cares and chooses to play just as personal.
1554  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Trading vs Gambling on: July 11, 2017, 03:00:03 PM
Both are risky but differ when it comes to the losses. Because when you are trading, you only lose if you sell the coin without profiting from them or you got scared when you bought the coin at a low price and the coin is constantly dumping and can't wait for the coin to pump and sell them then that is already a loss but you can still buy a new coin with a much low price and wait for it to pump to make profit while in gambling once you deposit a certain amount and when you loose everything in gambling, 99% are your chances that you can't win back the amount you lost.

Losing is less when you trade. No matter how bad you pick the investment you can always sell out and return partial part of the money. This is not the case in gambling you win or lose no middle in this. So from one point of view gambling is more risky but it sure is more profitable at the end if you win off course.


Trading is my way to reduce gambling addiction, this is the best way because we can calculate profits more stable, gambling is deadly because it only plays right lustful brain, we better use the left brain for analysis in trading market. If we continue to be afraid of risk, look for better work in the office only.
1555  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling addiction. on: July 11, 2017, 02:51:56 PM
In real life I have never heard that someone was getting addicted after one time gambling. You usually need to play more times or have a nice win the first time and then play again and again to win more and after a while you are getting addicted.

Your personal mentality also plays a huge role of whether getting addicted or not.

Not all the people are the same. A person can get hooked up easily and get addicted with it even he will deal with it just for one time. Gambling is just designed to make people addicted and that's all that's why if you don't want to be addicted in gambling, just don't gamble at all.

Addiction factor is not just that. If people love to play card games as a child, or they are happy with work or playing multiplayer combat games, it is easy to enjoy gambling in a short period of time, their conjunction is the level of pleasure and habits experienced by the person, Someone unfamiliar with the social/solitary environment Will also be directly addicted even if only played once.
1556  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is it too late to buy bitcoin? on: July 11, 2017, 02:29:10 PM
No, it is never too late to buy bitcoin and if you have money, I suggest you should buy bitcoin right now. It is a good investment. However, if you are patient, you can wait for a few more days because right now everything is going down and I believe that bitcoin will below $2000 in the end of this year. It will be the correct time to buy more bitcoin

My price prediction will worsen until the end of the year, an overdose in which all the bitcoin and altcoin market conditions are declining, this time UASF will actually work hard cutting the bitcoin in half, saving your money and buying the bitcoin should be after knowing the outcome of the protocol.
1557  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin as a source of income? on: July 10, 2017, 10:56:57 AM
That was probably produced a right sense where bitcoin is a source of income in this days now. Today I only rely my income in bitcoin, and that was very useful and helpful at the same time. Bitcoin really made my life change from my physical hard situation. It is my source of income.

I chose to stop working from the main job only for bitcoin, I feel the energy and spirit of high financial freedom, I start dreaming to get rich, this I will not get while working as office worker, Bitcoin is the main source of income, very appropriate for an optimistic person.
1558  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin just an asset ? on: July 10, 2017, 10:51:22 AM
I have read in the news that that like bitcoin as virtual currencies are assets and does not have the characteristics or what it takes to be a currency that could meet our modern economic needs. It was said that it does not have the fundamental attributes. What are your thoughts about it?

They were wrong, everything was in fact not so simple, bitcoin is a virtual currency that is very effective in online transactions, it can completely be considered as a real money.

Probably what is meant is bitcoin is not a currency because it doesn't meet the aspect of modern regulation and national taxation, most of us will smile with this because bitcoin is some kind of latest economic innovation. Bitcoin is a virtual currency because it can be traded for goods and services payment. This character has become an authentic proof, bitcoin also meets the element as an asset due to fluctuations that move more on the incentive of verbal assets.
1559  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Where to learn how to trade on: July 09, 2017, 07:14:51 PM
try to watch some videos on youtube, you need to have a long patience, then decide if it's for a long or short term
Yes that is also a great idea for him if he start a videos on YouTube and watching them more videos about trading that how to he start trading and soon he learn trading basics tools, then he decide that long term trade is better or short terms. I am also sure if he start watching more videos about trading will very more profit in future.

It doesn't work for me, I understand trading through bounty campaigns, all stages and processes I learned until enter the trading market. There's something that can't be explained by theory when we join with dev/team coin in telegram/slack channel. Everything can happen, and I didn't even realize that now I can trade smoothly.
1560  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Are You Disappointed In Trading? on: July 09, 2017, 07:05:39 PM
March to April 2017 is my good month. I earn almost 5x of my investment. But now its kinda disappointing my coins were bought while bitcoin is 2900usd. Now all of my coins are in bloody red.

You also have to trade in the altcoin market, expecting the benefits of bitcoin is not enough, I think this is a simple complexity, I'm very dissapointed at first with fluctuations after march, I'm just like you, but circumstances force me to know more about altcoin, and this becomes the best way in trading market.
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