never ever make trading decisions based on twitter.
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Not looking good from the mainstream media's POV. Bitcoin revealed: a Ponzi scheme for redistributing wealth from one libertarian to another
If Bitcoin were a currency, it'd be the worst-performing one in the world, worse even than the Russian ruble.
But Bitcoin isn't a currency. It's a Ponzi scheme for redistributing wealth from one libertarian to another. At least that's all it is right now. One day it could be more. Venture capitalists, for their part, are quick to point out that it's really a protocol, like the early internet, and its underlying technology could still be revolutionary. Also, they've bet hundreds of millions of dollars on it.
But that's not much of a consolation to anyone who bought anywhere near Bitcoin's $1,100 top. Or near $1,000, or $900, or $800, or, well even yesterday's prices. That's because Bitcoin hasn't just fallen 76 percent the past year. It's fallen 36 percent the past two days, as you can see below, with a 24 percent decline the past 24 hours. It's too bad Bitcoin doesn't have a central bank to help stabilize its value.
more here... http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2015/01/14/bitcoin-is-revealed-a-ponzi-scheme-for-redistributing-wealth-from-one-libertarian-to-another/
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Stake does not equal exposure: Consider for example a pirateat40 style "trust" on a POS coin. The "trust" has a very significant stake combined with a very significant short exposure, and consequently a vested interest in the collapse of the currency, and can vote the stake accordingly. https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Pirateat40. POS rewards the creators of ponzi schemes. A variant of this is an exchange gone bad. Again the exchange operator controls a massive stake via customer deposits but no exposure, and if fraud occurs creating a fractional reserve. The exchange has a vested interest in the collapse of the currency in order to cover losses and can vote the stake accordingly. Buying the currency while at the same time selling a greater amount on a derivatives market, creating a large stake with a short exposure and vested interest in the collapse of the currency. Again the stake can be voted accordingly. Need I go on ... we'll see how POS evolves and what develops. despite the bolded text above, i think it's still worth exploring. overall, crypto is one big experiment at this point.
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i think stellar will touch $1 or 10$
from the legend himself. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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this year if BTC goes down to 1 dollar.
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from what i've seen, STR seems the most resilient and have been holding it's gains (and rising) despite bitcoin's crash.
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or it could be the goxxed 800k bitcoins being dumped.
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If they wait until bitcoin price reach $320, they could halts their service for a long time It's better they to get a new hardware like UMISOO / antminer S4 / something better
true. and who knows how long it'll be at these prices. 1 year? 2 years? 5??
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bitcoin companies are only gonna close shop, right?
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Simply no way this ever happens. Facebook is used by so many people it is actually insane. Bitcoin should be proud if they get half of the people that Facebook has.
Hello developers HINT HINT, you guys do know Facebook is like FREEE advertising, why dont you try it assholes. stellar is getting there first via stripe.
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i wonder what the twins are doing right now... ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FhuFMropl.jpg&t=663&c=vwbD9gE7U3RGeQ) I bet they're not giving a fuck. I'm sure they can see the long term value.Simply no way this ever happens. Facebook is used by so many people it is actually insane. Bitcoin should be proud if they get half of the people that Facebook has.
But a lot more people use cash than people use facebook. sure. but the thing is how low and how long will it stay there? cloud miners are closing shop and who knows who's next... there must be at least some worry and anxiety from their part.
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Imho bitcoin will be far bigger than facebook
facebook will eventually shrivel and die like myspace
For some point your right, but all are in lead roll in there fields. I will be glad to see FB down but this is hard to happen, maybe if somebody hacked them good with some serious sh... Eventually everything will be based on crypto even FB so this is will be true that btc is bigger that FB. i think fb will evolve as they will be using stellar via stripe.
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i wonder what the twins are doing right now... ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FhuFMropl.jpg&t=663&c=vwbD9gE7U3RGeQ)
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expecting more BTC based companies to close shop in the coming weeks.
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![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eeew.net%2Fimages%2Fstock-quotes.jpg&t=663&c=pw9KbpOG0MWOKQ) Jokes aside, people are dumping. It could even be Bitstamp's stolen coins. LOL it could be the goxxed 800k coins.. who knows when this will end..
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Anyone would love to get pumped back to the 400$ level but it will take some injections to get there. You know any steroid providers to help?
OP took all the steroids.. he's so pumped despite the crash and bearish sentiment.
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bad timing for ethereum launch. maybe they should wait.
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What does it all mean? How low will it go? Does this mean it's still better to buy btc or invest in mining gear?
who knows... just watch it go down, go sideways, then trend up again. and beware of fake reversals aka the dead cat bounce.
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You forex "Experts" or Forex wannabee make me laugh so hard. What you saw in bitcoin price can be charted all the way back to June of last year. the same thing has happneed over and over month for month the past 7 months. There are no fundamental analysis in bitcoin possible, there is no demand for the coin. Anmd how ironic I told this whole community back in June if someone does not get off their ass and create a demand for this coin it will tumble it will fall, and if someone with 1000s of bitcoins in thier wallet doesn't wake up and do it now those 1000s of bitcoin will be worth pennies. Call me what you want, rationalize this however you want. But for ALL OF YOU idiots on here who do not UNDERSTAND currency trading let me give you somne clues. in order for a currency to hlde true value it MUST have a demand, in order for high dollar investors to really get involved, there MUST be a demand. THERE IS NO REAL DEMAND FOR BITCOIN. gambling is NOT a demand, anonymity is NOT a demand, have the ability to anonymously look on porn sites is NOT a demand. Ask yourself if you were a multimillion dollar investor, would you rest hundreds of thousands of dollars in an investment where the best thing it had going for it was a bunch of gamblers and porn watchers? NO YOU WOULD NOT!!!. SO why do you expect real multimillion dollar investors to. where are the bitcoin devs? why do you never see them here? why dont they even support their own community of believers and invesdtorts. Oh yea thatys right they are in the Bahamas drinking mixed drinks showering them with the fruits of our labor. opening their Ipads once a week to seemingly work on the "protocol" which has no problems at the present. They need to get their priorities straight. Bitcoin lost everything it had going for it when Satoshi disappeared. these jokers who took over were just another get rich quick bullshit scammers. And that is why bitcoins price is never going to rebound Unless the community does something. For em I would not do a thing for bitcoin. I would do something usefull for Dogecoin than Bitcoin. At least the Dogecoin devs are trying to make a demand for thier coin they are not just sitting on thier ass waiting for a handout. Gavin Andresen said it all when he released his stupid ignorant slap in the face to all bitcoin investors by telling new people NOT to invest in bitcoin. No matter how youb look at the add to a technological idiot it says DONT BUY BITCOINS!!! For you developer lovers and peons who want to defend the Bitcoin devs and the people involved in bitcoin heres I CALL BULLSHIT. ANd I call your bluff and make you look stupid by your own people now ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FOEC7s6Y.jpg&t=663&c=-BFlfBIwTPro8A) Stop defending the Devs like they are some kind of Gods, its thier responsibility to create a demand for the coin its been 6 years time for them to go to work. Its thier job to make sure the coin succeeds, time to go to work. Its been 6 years no more infancy, no more bullshit DO YOUR DAMN JOBS DEVELOPERS!!!! it's not the devs' job to create demand. what do they know about business, markets and economics. their job is to improve the code and explore other possibilities and uses for the protocol. the companies who are building on top of bitcoin should be the ones marketing it and creating demand for it since their prime motivation is profit and creating a btc ecosystem.
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