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15461  Economy / Speculation / Re: should i buy or sell today on: July 02, 2017, 07:17:39 PM
top opportunity to buy bitcoins now . but wait until the lowest price like 2000$ .
do not sell your bitcoins if you believed 10,000$ well be here keep buying and holding.
Yes if you are able to buy bitcoins few hours ago. The price was still good and it was at $2,300 but now the price increased again to $2,400 so you did had profit already if you did bought. But if you won't be selling or buying today and you have bitcoin, better to do nothing and just hold it out for so many years.
15462  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Cloud mining/Investing or trading on localbitcoins? on: July 02, 2017, 01:40:58 PM
Each person has different opinion about cloud mining and trading. But when it comes to practical you will make more through trading because start investing 0.01 in cloud mining and 0.01 in trading. After one week or one month compares your earning than you will make more profit with trading only.

It's better to max out your capital in trading because in cloud mining it's possible that before your contract ends you will be earning the same amount of your capital or worst comes worst you will be scammed and will don't have any return from them. As most of them are known to be a scam scheme so it's better not to trust any of them.
15463  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Hold or Sell on: July 02, 2017, 01:13:33 PM
i still hold my btc Smiley i think it will raise nextmonth. hope that will up to 2k8
I still going to hold my bitcoin. It is now dropping but good thing that it didn't crash quickly. The price is only falling for awhile but still it's good for consideration that the price of bitcoin is still high. I want to see it higher than your expectation, it's $3,000 - $5,000.
15464  Economy / Economics / Re: Make money from money on: July 02, 2017, 01:00:30 PM
You have to invest,
One of them is by investing in cryptocurrency.
Select which coins will benefit in the near and long distance, and note their movements over time.
Can also follow ico a project in this forum but you have to learn first about the project that they usung or segment which they give so you have invest

It's all about trading and joining ICO's. Also the one of the best choice in making money from your money is in alt coin mining. You don't have to do such effort because once you have the GPU's or hardware they are automatically going to work for you until it will be broken. But it's up to you on how you will take care of it.
15465  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What are your plans with your Bitcoin? on: July 02, 2017, 12:47:14 PM
My future plan is to collect a lot of bitcoin and hold it for a long time.
I know that bitcoin will stay on top and it will also continue its success.
So let's just believe in the power of bitcoin.

While it is still early just keep on collecting bitcoin, because that's going to be beneficial in the future. And while you are collecting bitcoin learn also to trade alt coins, the power of bitcoin is very good. Power in a way that it's growth is massively growing and many countries seeing it as a good way to grow their market.
15466  Economy / Speculation / Re: will bitcoin fall to 1000$ please prediction crisis on: July 02, 2017, 12:05:15 PM
Possible but I'm seeing it more possible that it will go back at $3,000 and we are going to see it at the peak of $4,000 -$5,000 before 2018. Lets say it will be back at $1,000 but it will be good and stable again at $2,000 just like whats happening for today.
15467  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Best Investments on: July 02, 2017, 07:54:40 AM
i actually believe trading is the best, not just hold btc

There are people that are contented on sticking their investment by holding it. But to maximize your time, trading is another way. Best investments are there and they too many to choose but its up to your contentment and where you are good at. For those new comers, study if you can do both.
15468  Economy / Speculation / Re: Sell or wait? on: July 02, 2017, 04:29:30 AM
Better is waiting i guess. Now the price it's going down rate and it's will be up again i think. just wait or investing it and sell when the rate price is looks to going up again.
Being patient at this times is going to be the best thing to do. If you will panic and dont wait for the right time for bitcoins price to increase, youll lose even more. I will hold, no matter what happens I'm going to keep my promise to myself even at this times of dip.
15469  Other / Off-topic / Re: What wallets do you use? on: July 02, 2017, 04:03:34 AM
Am I the only one using exodus wallet ?

Other than that, I use poloniex & blockchain for online transfers.
I haven't use exodus and as I look for some desktop wallets. I'm going to shift now to electrum because of the time I'm using web wallets for storing my bitcoin. But as experts say before the chain segwit2x activation, it's better to store bitcoins offline. And thats why I'll use electrum.
15470  Economy / Economics / Re: Can Bitcoin End World Poverty? on: July 02, 2017, 03:41:33 AM
No, bitcoin is just a decentralized peer to peer payment system in shortly. It is not for to solve poverty
I will disagree, it is not just a payment system but it is now a popular investment which everyone is trying to invest. And if you invested to bitcoin earlier when the price is still not that high then now you had almost 1000% percentage profit. So I believe it can end a family's poverty but the world is big and its hard to believe.
15471  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC sudden price fall? on: July 01, 2017, 09:44:06 PM
Today every one were waiting that Australia will announce the Bitcoin as currency and going to withdraw all taxes and make it free but i think they did not responded and that is why market reacting it and going down.

I see so this is the reason why the price now is shaking down. Is it still too early for Australia to announce bitcoin as currency to them? Everyone seems to be disappointed on what's happening right now. And hoping that it will not go back $1,900 or beyond lower. The market is making every single handle to panic but I'll keep on holding.
15472  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do you Panic? on: July 01, 2017, 09:26:27 PM
Selling at 10% loss is a panic move for me. Back when I was still trying to trade alts, there is this coin that I made the most out of other alts. Because I made good money out of it, I bought tons of it. What I don't know is that it's on a pump and oh my I bought near the top. An hour later I saw that it's crashing and so I sold all of it, 25% loss, then never looked back in that coin ever again.

Oh, it is the little devil Blakcoin I'm talking about.

I'll never do this again if I have the same experience to you. These days people are now scared to buy at peak because there is a tendency that it will go down. It's like when new investors came into the league, those old ones(traders) has the chance to take those money for profit. And the new ones will suffer this and that is causing them to panic.
15473  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: New coins GPU mineable? on: July 01, 2017, 09:18:01 PM
Just use this website https://whattomine.com/ and start learning the table.

Use this website: https://www.coinwarz.com/cryptocurrency for an up-to-date list of the most profitable cryptocurrencies to mine.
You said new coins, what exactly do you mean? ETH and Zcash have been around for quite a while now.


I don't think it's good to prefer to those "new coins" for mining. And most of the people here are mining ETH, Zcash, SIA and XMR. These 4 are my choices to mine before and up until today.
15474  Economy / Speculation / Re: Hold... Hold.... Hold.... Do not sell everything on: July 01, 2017, 09:06:33 PM
I think it's time to change the title of this thread to "Sell... Sell.... Sell.... Sell everything".

Ethereum is gonna hit $200 in a couple of a hours. We all had it coming.

No need to change the price of bitcoin now is down at $2,362 so that's not a good sign that we need to sell everything. Another time of removing those weak handlers, more buying power again into the hands of the whales. They are making money each time there's a small pump and when there's a dump, they are adding more bitcoins.
15475  Economy / Speculation / Re: downtime soon ? on: July 01, 2017, 08:52:04 PM
Nothing will happen, it's like they are just holding bitcoin so you do and I. The only thing that can make the price decrease once those agencies started to sell those bitcoins, that can have a big impact in the market that will make the price lower.
15476  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is bitcoin better or paypal? on: July 01, 2017, 08:25:47 PM
I think bitcoin is so much better than paypal,if you can understand rightly  when bitcoin holding, buying or selling then you can choose  must be bitctcoin not paypal.

It's one of the nicest thing about bitcoin, you can hold it and wait for the right time for you to decide on selling it. And PayPal is a gateway for sending and receiving payments and bitcoin has this. But bitcoin has more than PayPal has to offer and that's why bitcoin is better for most of us.

Absolutely. In my country central bank of my country has restricted Paypal which makes us very difficult to use Paypal especially for sending payments to someone. We can not hold funds in our account and any penny we receive in our Paypal account is automatically withdrawn in to the bank account linked with the Paypal account. Bitcoin is a far better option for us, especially for the international transactions.

In what country do you live? So you don't have choice but to use other payment method or stay still with bitcoin. Good thing that there's bitcoin in us that we can use as an alternative for sending and receiving payments. As we are already using it as our major remitting center.

I am from India and this decision was taken in back 2014.

* PayPal Team Shocked Indian Freelancers with New Rules.

I am not very much confident about whom to blame but the fact is that using PayPal is not only time consuming but also costly since that decision. I found bitcoin very, very, very much handy when it comes to the international transactions.

That's awful, there's a lot of freelancers in India and why they do this. Anyway, there are some other choices for you like Payza and of course bitcoin. Bitcoin is very handy and you only need to wait for a couple of minutes - hours for your transaction to get confirmed. And sometimes it takes a day but this is happening rarely.
15477  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is Holding Bitcoin a long time good way to make money? on: July 01, 2017, 08:18:03 PM
Well, someone who invested in bitcoin at the origin when it was about $1 would now say that holding bitcoin for a long time is definitely a good way to make money.  Grin

Those people that invest while the price is at $1-$20 or even $100 they are now rich. And I know that there's a lot of people that did believed to bitcoin and hold it for a long time. They only just proved that bitcoin is a good way to make money if you just hold it for better.

People's perception now is a whole lot different from how it was before and who would've really thought that btc would go this far and would still go further? A lot of people may have seen btc like how we see all other altcoins today, enter at a low point then sell after a percentage of profit. Who knows, one of the alts that we have right now would have the same run as btc in a couple of years

Yes, no one really knows before that bitcoin is going to be at this point but with those alt coins there are some of them that are now good to go and has been seen a potential to grow. But I don't want to compare them to bitcoin as this is the original coin in the market and holding it will give you a better future.
15478  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will Bitcoin overcome Paypal? on: July 01, 2017, 08:09:30 PM
Actuallt the transaction fees of bitcoin is high and maybe Paypal is better nowadays in this point, and also still the great marketplaces supporting only Paypal as payment processor and not supporting bitcoin.

Haven't thought of this until I realised I needed more fee to send a tiny bit of $3 to a wallet, in a case of needed fee there.

I've got a transaction and the fee is only $0.14 and that's very low on these days. What wallets are you using? I'm using blockchain.info and it's a good thing for those people that doesn't want to pay higher fees. And this is a regular fee but if you wanted to be prioritize just increase the fees per b for faster confirmation.
15479  Economy / Economics / Re: The dream of getting rich with bitcoins on: July 01, 2017, 10:02:02 AM
At first I did not believe what to get from bitcoin, but after all that is true, I can buy the desired item, bitcoin can indeed realize our dreams.

When I first saw bitcoin and did some research about it for a month I did really had the believe that it's going to make me rich if I got a lot of bitcoin. But the question is on how I can acquire as many bitcoin as I can. There's nothing wrong if you are dreaming to get rich in bitcoin but apply what you had learned on it.
15480  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is Holding Bitcoin a long time good way to make money? on: July 01, 2017, 09:09:17 AM
Well, someone who invested in bitcoin at the origin when it was about $1 would now say that holding bitcoin for a long time is definitely a good way to make money.  Grin

Those people that invest while the price is at $1-$20 or even $100 they are now rich. And I know that there's a lot of people that did believed to bitcoin and hold it for a long time. They only just proved that bitcoin is a good way to make money if you just hold it for better.
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