First off, you people seem to have an inordinate amount of trust in banks. 'Safe deposit boxes' Belong to the bank, just like your deposits. Access is controlled...Not by You.
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I don't know much about paper wallets. But aren't they basically bearer bonds. Are they pw protected at all? Doesn't asset forfeiture apply to bank safe deposit boxes just as well as accounts?
I don't trust banks full-stop.
Seems like a very physical approach to security.
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The part in question is the STM32F205RET6 ARM processor which is easy enough to order up at the usual s ources. Unfortunately, counterfeit parts are epidemic in the components industry today, and the incentive to spin up a "special" one of these is...rather large Can't you trust the usual places to source you clean parts? Where do SatoshiLabs order their parts? Now you are starting to think. THAT is a very good question. One would hope that they have a secure delivery arrangement with the manufacturer...one would hope...their website is mute on the subject. You guys had convinced me to get one until I read this post. Is there any evidence to raise the minimum glimpse of suspicion? #doyouknowsomethingwedont? I'd like to know how much damage one of these counterfeit parts can do? How nefarious can they possibly act in this context? Given the amount of dough other people have at stake, I suspect there's already been a lot of digging. I'm personally willing to risk being weirded by technology more than I'm prepared to have someone walk away with a paper wallet. But just barely. |
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The part in question is the STM32F205RET6 ARM processor which is easy enough to order up at the usual s ources. Unfortunately, counterfeit parts are epidemic in the components industry today, and the incentive to spin up a "special" one of these is...rather large Can't you trust the usual places to source you clean parts? Where do SatoshiLabs order their parts? |
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Moonshot. Someone blinked.  There was a 500 coin wall on bitfinex holding things back. It's disappeared now, so $15500 is the next target. I really wanted to go sideways for a while at $16400. It was a fine number. |
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Moonshot. Someone blinked. |
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My understanding is that Trezor is totally open source, so it seems that someone who is sophisticated enough would be able to build their own Trezor and/or to tweak it in any kind of personalized way that they would like - surely a kind of feature that is beyond my current abilities to take advantage of such. I suppose if bitcoin makes me rich enough, then I could hire someone to do such; however, can we really trust hired help with securing the vast majority of our wealth?
it is, the issue becomes sourcing guaranteed genuine microcontroller parts Oh. I see. You boys are talking about a DIY hardware wallet. That's a good idea. |
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Maybe it should be Bitcoin Cash Plus Doge Dark Lite
I like it~ |
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randomness
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Indeed. Those dry cleaning people are fond of putting microdot cameras on your clothes, powered by static electricity.
But where people really blow it is failing to do an enema before entering the room with the computer. Because you know what kind of people proctologists are, and they have been known to sneak into people's bedrooms at night to plant their malware....
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That goes without saying of course. But I start off with a similar routine to this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1vw7E7uE3EWith a full removal of gut flora followed by a fecal transplant when my crypto business is complete. Hahaha...  You laugh, but I'd pay good money for that kind of treatment. (I'll pay extra if you'll have someone verify my checksum.) |
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im just lit up tonite
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So, let's see if I got it all right.
I go to the library, (with my clothes on), download the "make your paper wallet" site from the library computer (so the computer can't be traced to me) onto a USB stick. Buy a refurbished poo computer from Ebay, Get naked, take a shower just to be sure, put on a balaclava thats been in the microwave to kill the microcameras that might have been put there by the Chinese who made it, get an enema, make the wallets, preferably in a dark room with loud music, print them on a virgin printer, pour petrol on the printer and computer and burn them, put the wallets in an envelope seal it with wax and my coat of arms, and put it in my box in the bank.
Did I miss anything?
But seriously, thank you all for your input, I know OPSEC is important, and I do get more and more paranoid as the price goes up.
I would tear the paper wallet in half and store it in two different banks and also cut off a third piece that is only memorized. What happens when he burns the banks? It's a flaw. |
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Did I miss anything?
Burn the bank.  |
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Carl Sagan would fit in well in Colorado these days. Fun fact.  |
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There were almost a hundred thousand new members registered on bitcointalk in November this year. During November last year it was closer to ten thousand new members registered. When it's a million new members a month bitcoin will be going mainstream.
Can you please provide a link where I can see new joiners ? Thanks in advance. All but one were bots... Don't look at me. I snuck into October.  |
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The poll is bullish as fark. Who here really thinks we're going to see $20k in three days? Tera?
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You people are too damn smart. Verified checksum? Shee-it. How I ever got mixed up with you lot is beyond me.
 Yeah... it's a decent gig. Best paying job I ever had. |
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Haha, now this is choice. http://www.businessinsider.com/ethereum-founder-threatens-to-leave-if-the-crypto-community-doesnt-grow-up-2017-12Vitalik Buterin goes on a rant pointing out all that is currently wrong with the crypto world, as well as admitting what goals Ethereum and other cryptos haven't yet accomplished. But then he threatens to leave the Ethereum project because of it. Which inadvertently highlights another fallacy: how important he supposedly believes he is to the Ethereum project, or that a decentralized cryptocurrency should have ever had a CEO/Lead creator/developer in the first place.   Also, it's pretty ironic that the MSM want to use the analogy of Beanie Babies when referring to Bitcoin. But the CryptoKitties dapp is literally a digital version of Beanie Babies reincarnate. But of course they don't say shit about that. He wants the Crypto community to grow up whilst he posts a pic of himself in which he looks about 12 years old? ... Whilst threatening to rage quit as a crying child would do because of trolls are being just trolls. ETH is an exploding clown car. So now he cares? There isn't a worthwhile dApp now, and there wasn't even the hint of one when he created this mess. It has no use case. It never did. He should feel bad. missing the boat and didnt buy ETH at sub 10 $?  I saw that boat. I chose to stay in this one. No big woop. Bet you saw the other now 20 or so mega yachts too....like me....sux dont it? I'm given to understand boat ownership is overrated. Fancy cars are kind of a pain in the ass too, if you ask me. Fix the lube, jiff the skip, hoist the crankshafts. Uff. Forget it. |
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Haha, now this is choice. http://www.businessinsider.com/ethereum-founder-threatens-to-leave-if-the-crypto-community-doesnt-grow-up-2017-12Vitalik Buterin goes on a rant pointing out all that is currently wrong with the crypto world, as well as admitting what goals Ethereum and other cryptos haven't yet accomplished. But then he threatens to leave the Ethereum project because of it. Which inadvertently highlights another fallacy: how important he supposedly believes he is to the Ethereum project, or that a decentralized cryptocurrency should have ever had a CEO/Lead creator/developer in the first place. Also, it's pretty ironic that the MSM want to use the analogy of Beanie Babies when referring to Bitcoin. But the CryptoKitties dapp is literally a digital version of Beanie Babies reincarnate. But of course they don't say shit about that. He wants the Crypto community to grow up whilst he posts a pic of himself in which he looks about 12 years old? ... Whilst threatening to rage quit as a crying child would do because of trolls are being just trolls. ETH is an exploding clown car. So now he cares? There isn't a worthwhile dApp now, and there wasn't even the hint of one when he created this mess. It has no use case. It never did. He should feel bad. missing the boat and didnt buy ETH at sub 10 $? I saw that boat. I chose to stay in this one. No big woop. |
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Haha, now this is choice. http://www.businessinsider.com/ethereum-founder-threatens-to-leave-if-the-crypto-community-doesnt-grow-up-2017-12Vitalik Buterin goes on a rant pointing out all that is currently wrong with the crypto world, as well as admitting what goals Ethereum and other cryptos haven't yet accomplished. But then he threatens to leave the Ethereum project because of it. Which inadvertently highlights another fallacy: how important he supposedly believes he is to the Ethereum project, or that a decentralized cryptocurrency should have ever had a CEO/Lead creator/developer in the first place. Also, it's pretty ironic that the MSM want to use the analogy of Beanie Babies when referring to Bitcoin. But the CryptoKitties dapp is literally a digital version of Beanie Babies reincarnate. But of course they don't say shit about that. He wants the Crypto community to grow up whilst he posts a pic of himself in which he looks about 12 years old? ... Whilst threatening to rage quit as a crying child would do because of trolls are being just trolls. ETH is an exploding clown car. So now he cares? There isn't a worthwhile dApp now, and there wasn't even the hint of one when he created this mess. It has no use case. It never did. He should feel bad. |
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