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1561  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: February 23, 2017, 09:42:15 AM
Remember the word fun because if you that is only thing you will receive as a consolation prize for the money you spent.
Getting a consolation reward is the final result of smart way gambling ?
I do not think so because each and every gambler will find this result effortlessly. If we put efforts, we can find smart way of gambling to win the prime prizes. I'm not ready to get satisfied with consolation reward.
since there is a fact that most people would ended up gambling with losing , then you should start consider have fun only while gambling which means the benchmark whether are you smart enough to gamble or not are when you react on whatever the result of your bets. be responsible and don't get greedy.

Well i agree with the first comment here that having fun would be the best consolation a gsmbler can have when gambling. With the way you look atbit, it seems you're gambling with the expectation of winning each and every time. That mindset towards gambling most of the time will make you lose more which will decrease the chances of you having fun. To be smart, i think you just have to be in control and be contenred with the result of your gamblig
1562  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do small investments make sense? on: February 23, 2017, 09:36:29 AM
Investment is a good way to increase your portfolio ,it really doesnt matter whether it is a micro amount,with time you could accumulate a large amount of money if you really have the habit of saving small amounts and invest in any major projects or shares.
Starting from small investment and will slowly making progress is a big thing that will fulfill us in the future. There are stories of people from rugs to riches, clearly they made a lot of effort before they reach such kind of success in life. It's a journey and in that journey you will have to face a lot of trials and you may fail but you have to rise every time you fail, you will never be successful if you quit, put that in mind.
Yes ,all true some of us can't afford big investment in one down ,I believe all successful people not only depends on money but in their great ideas and perseverances in life. Its like a water every drop counts , every sweat in our body is worth it if we do good in ourselves and others . For me every little thing and effort if it is appreciated it all worth . Acents of investment and do your best to make it grow nothing is impossible .Strive Harder .
Indeed. Investing on something is a smart way of working with your money as long as its well though and researched about. The small amoubt you've invested may very well reap good dividends in the long run so it really doesnt matter if its small or big as if you do it right, the results and return would still be beneficial financially
1563  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Everyone looses in the long run on: February 22, 2017, 11:51:28 AM
I think it's true that most of us has a high chance of loosing on the long run, Maybe we can avoid playing it very long and maybe we can practice to put  a limit on our play in order to have a sign of us to stop playing it.

Everyone knows that the odds are against us in a gambling game still people play because of having fun and others do it due to their greed.

It is important to curb the temptation of money and not gamble too much since then people start chasing their losses and end up losing even more. Even if people put a control over their money still the fact that losses are chased are the main reasons why people end up in debt.

In the long run people will lose since the odds are against us in the casino games if they dont stop gambling completely.
In the long run we will really lose but at least we have to justify our loses by having fun in gambling, it's fine to lose as long as we can afford what we we lose. In the first place, we do gambling because we want to have fun and we never thought it would be easy to win as casinos are doing it for us for them to stay in the business profitable. I think it's wise not to expect to much about return in terms of money but let's just have fun.

Yeah you're right there dude. And i think we shouldn't put much time and effort when it comes to fambling because there are a lot of more importsnt things in our lives that needs attention. Its true that everyone would mist likely lose if they put gamblig among their top priorities. And im not talking just about money here. Family, friends, work, these are other things to consider in the long run
1564  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does experience matter in gambling? on: February 22, 2017, 11:45:13 AM
Well I think experience does not matter  when it comes to some dice game,
Because it is all about luck I think it is 5% strategy and 95% luck.

Well i think it does. Lets take your dice game for example. If you're an inexperienced gambler, of course you won't have an idea of how much to bet or when to consider giving up. It's not just about your percentage of winning because as we all know dice is a random game. If you're an experienced gambler, you've already had wins and losses that would make you a better decision maker on how to handle your bankroll wisely
1565  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling and betting?? on: February 22, 2017, 11:41:38 AM
Gambling and betting is the same.  Betting is equivalent to wager, which is the main composition of gambling where one person bet in hope of winning a stake.  If you are talking about casino gambling and sportsbetting, I think they a re the same depend on which one you are more familiar with. 
that's right both have same risk just needed luck and understanding but if define both are the same gambling and betting comes with how you risk your money and like previous replied said if what you mean is sports and casino's same thing will happen just need more skills and more luck.

Well by definition, i think they're similar to each other. Gambling is the general term that is used for things we do that we don't have any control over the result or outcome. Mainly based on luck and chances. Betting i think is a mind of gambling that pretty much gives you a better chance with the results by analyzation and gathering information. So i consider betting as a branch of gambling.
1566  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you use analysis when play gambling? on: February 22, 2017, 11:37:05 AM
I tried analyzing while playing gambling because it is completely based on random numbers which is not possible to identify those. It is completely based on luck, because i tried many calculation done on paper and tried with that numbers only few times i make money, but many times i failed to make money.
That few times also you've made money just because of your luck not for your calculation. Yes, i gambling casino games are base on luck here no calculation, and no strategies will work. Sometimes you feel your strategies will work, but actually, you win just because of your luck that's it. But I sports betting your analysis help you to make right bet. Here without analysis, you can not be able to place any bet.

Welll i agree to a point. Though i think analysis is not limited to analyzing the results only. I used to think that way as well but if you look at it closely, there are a lot if aspects when you gamble that needs to be analyzed. Of course luck based games doesn't need analysis on how you'll win basically because it is luck vased and no amount of analyzation can predict the outcome. But analyzing how much you'll bet, what to do if you win, when to quit, those are factors in gambling that we tend to overlook when we talk about analyzation and i think these things are as much important as analyzing how to win
1567  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: is gambling worth to try for newbie? on: February 22, 2017, 11:27:21 AM
Well base on my own experience it is worth it,
I even started my bitcoin through faucets and try to invest it in some HYIP and even tried to gamble some and win a profit through it.

Well its not going to hurt if you try it once as you can charge everything to experience and i think you'll have a chance to determine if you can handle gambling or not. Though i think this is a critical time for new gamblers as they are more prone to addiction and to become victimized by scams. But its the time where in you can actually make mistakes and learn lessons that can make you realize if gambling is for you or not or if you can handle gambling
1568  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can trading be considered as gambling?? on: February 22, 2017, 11:16:29 AM
Trading and gambling is the same. One thing in common is that both trading and gambling will profit the site owner the most and the second is that people could actually become rich from it with some luck. Trading rely on luck as well the same with gambling therefore dont think that this stuff is just for everyone
You have a point.
But for me trading and gambling is not the same after all.
In trading you can use some strategy to get more profit and not will depend on our luck.

Trading sometimes is dependent on luck as you'll never know when will other parties would start to dump their coins or when is the pump going to pump..  But that's true, in time you could learn how to trade with strategy, and you will came to the point where you are already confident, specially in altcoin trading...  Smiley

Yeah there's the difference there. When you become experienced in both trading and gambling, i think that's the time that you'll detrrmine why they are not quite the same. When you are experienced in trading alrrady, you can be more aggressive as you'll have a lot of information about alt coibs and how they move and this will actually be beneficial as most of the time you'd be able to predict the right timing of buying and selling alt coins. When you're experienced in gambling though, you'll know how to rrstrain and control yourself so that you won't be losing a lot. The results of trading is a lot more predictable than gambling so when you gamble, you have to know hiw to propwrly manage your bankroll. If you get too aggressive, chances are you'll lose money
1569  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Season on: February 22, 2017, 11:03:36 AM
Sacramento Kings must be the most ridiculous franchise of all time with so many bad trades and draft picks in the recent years, I can't believe they are still competing somehow. The trade can create another powerhouse here, right now it doesn't look as menacing but just add another piece to this puzzle and you could have a team with arguably the best/top big men in the league.




This trade is ridiculous! are 10 years sacrament does not go to the playoffs and this year could reach the playoffs, but now after selling Cousins ​​will arrive in last place in their conference.
New Orleans, however, can reach the playoffs defying Denver for the eighth and last place useful.


I dont think their aim is to make it to the playoffs this season anyways. They are trying to rebuild the team from scratch. They have a first round pick from the upcoming draft and some future picks as well along with Buddy Hield. he's still fresh and has a lot to prove and this could be his break to become a star. Only time will tell if it was a good move or not and for now the winners seem to be the Pelcs and the losers are the kings with the trade.
Only time will tell if this trade turns out to be a bad one for the Sacramento Kings. Surely, they traded a star in Demarcus Cousins, but they probably thought that they are better off without him because they never made a single playoff appearance during his stint there, and even if they had a chance to make it this year, number 8 spot just won’t cut it. In my opinion, this was a good trade for the Kings for the long delayed rebuild that the fans deserve. The draft class of 2017 is said to be a deep one and Sacramento could very much benefit from it.

Cousins was the only guy in the Sacramento Kings roster that actually tried make his team win. He has been really frustrated that he doesn't get enough support and they can be seen frustrated a lot of times as he gets ejected from the games frequently. He has said to his teammates "Act like you care" a few times during the games while they were losing. I love boogie and it's a good home for him. Still not a very big upgrade but good enough to contend in the playoffs if the put some better bench players.

Well i think the pelicans are in for a good post srason run this time. Front court wise, they've just become one of the top teams to look at and depending on how cousins and davis can work together, i think the chance is legitimate for them to reach the conference finals, if not this year then next year. Put ina couple of good role players and the future looks bright for new orleans.
1570  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who can tell that when our luck come to us? on: February 22, 2017, 10:58:04 AM
Ofcourse we ,We are the one who will distinguish in ourselves that we are lucky on that day or that time not the teller .If the teller say you are lucky it wil only boost your confidence to bet more because of it right ? I experience my luck sometimes and luck has an expriration for me iy only takes me 5-8 highest streak winnings then when i lose twice thats my clue to stop .

If you are the one distinguishing your luck, then I think that a funny assumption.  How can you tell, with your winnings in your gambling? One win is not a proof that you are luck that day, and if you are telling that you are lucky that day, then you, yourself are a fortune teller.
Thinking about luck all the time is clearly a waste of time, instead of utilizing our time properly we get to the trap of thinking unrealistic way of winning. Gambling is all about techniques and luck is just a side factor, you last in gambling because you either have fun or you are doing well in terms of profitability. If one believe that luck is only important then skilled games would have not existed and we will not see people who are making gambling as their job.


I agree. There eas a time that i thought gambling mainly relies on luck. But as i think about it, technique and strategy doesn't only apply to the game itself. There are other factors to consider even for games like dice. How much you're willing to risk, or what to do in case you ein or you lose witha acertain amount. So it's a pretty broad topic than simply making blind bets. Of course when we talk about luck, which i don't think anyone can determine when will come, it comes and go. But there arr things hat we can control to maximize good luck or to minimize losses when bad luck strikes
Luck is luck, that's what I say. We cannot influence it no matter what we do. The best thing we can do is just always try our luck, when we always try, then the chances of winning also increases hence people may perceive it as their luck is improving. The more we work hard on what we do, the more lucky we get.

No sometimes luck is destiny because in playing games there must be callrd destiny that is for winning and losing side si therefore it is depend on your destiny if you win or lost in a game. But for me luck is something that your afford to win because of cool mind you have and making decision of betting the game.
1571  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you can control your self when playing gambling? on: February 22, 2017, 10:52:55 AM
I tried many times to control my self after making some money through gambling, but it is not possible when we are making our mind will suggest to play more games. But ultimately i am loosing all the money which i earned through gambling, this happens to me many times. Because like me many gamblers are looking for higher values of returns so only they cannot able to control their feelings.

If you are already in the middle of your betting, and you are catching the momentum already, then it is hard to control your self anymore, specially if you are winning few consecutive bets in a row. Setting a limit before playing is much effective way of controlling your self than doing it in the middle of your games.  Smiley
Being the in the middle of the betting and winning profit i know someof us want to continue playing trying to earn more than our bankrole. I always thinking that too but to be honest setting limitations dont't change anything the more we greed the more money can possible to lose.
It is very tough to control your feelings when you are in middle of the betting and winning profit. Many people will not stop there play. They will continue to make some more profit. But it is human nature we don't lose winning opportunity it may be in any business gambling or any other work. In other work it is different, but in gambling, if we become greedy we will lose more money. So we must control our feelings when we are in the long run win.   

I think it depends on the person still especially for long time gamblers. I can say that i've been gambling for quite a couple of years now and i don't have any problems controlling myself when it comes to gambling. I think with experience comes a sense of responsibility and restraint by knowing that a lot if things are more important than my vices and hobbies. That's what makes me in control now when i gamble though i can only speak for myself here as this surely does not apply to everyone
1572  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: February 22, 2017, 10:47:10 AM
Personally I don't gamble full time so I don't live off gambling but I can say I've been able to acquire a few electronics for myself and have loaned a few friends part of my profits from gambling so I will say it hasn't made me rich but profitable in every sense.

That's a good result and use of your winnings I wish that I'm the same with you. But the sad thing is that I can't even have a winning streak or day in any gambling game. Pressure keeps on putting me down because even I win small amount I'm not having receiving good amount with it and becoming rich is just a dream for me and how it is with becoming rich through gambling.
I think the winning streak is very difficult to obtain, it was will depend on the luck of each person. Maybe in order to get profit is better immediately stop if get profit because if to gambling again will always lose, I always experience like that if to gambling streak. I think people can get rich on their gambling have luck and big capital.
i never heard someone who turn get rich from gambling looks so happy, i mean indeed at first time they might really happy but then what next what will they do after the winning? keep gambling? i don't think it was a good idea.

become rich from gambling for me personally not as proud as when you get rich from your really hardwork.

Well if you win in profrssional tournaments like poker, i think there would be times when you can be proud to win and earn from gbling. Though when it comes to getting rich, i agree with the previous comments that becoming rich is different from earning big wins. When you become rich, i think it should be a life changing result and the only way i can see you donthat with gambling is by winning the lottery jackpot. You can earn a lot from playing gambling games but to be rich, it would take more than simply playing. You're better of investing in a casini so you can have a good chance in the ling run
1573  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: February 22, 2017, 09:39:11 AM
people became addicted to gambling starts when he wins and think that it can create instant money..and also when he losses which makes him more addicted into it trying to cope up with the money wasted.
Gambling might be enjoyable but also addictive.
I agree with you . all started from victory. because with a win we can get a lot of money. but after that most people only suffered loss and defeat. That's one of the things that I think characterizes gambling game.

from one victory to another victory, the gamblers can be too greedy and only thinking how to win the games with fast, easy, and safe but sometimes most gamblers don't thinking that to gets win in a gambling games, they can not do it in every time, but they should have a luck in the games and its the most important thing that every gambler should know.
yes each win will make gambler more greedy, people like easy money. So if anyone started his gambling career with winning. I am sure that person will addict to this gambling very soon. Because the winnings in gambling will make us addict more to gambling. Becasue of money only people will addict to gambling. Only a few people addict for gambling games to have fun.
Well its not rrally all the time that winning causes addiction. As you've all said, when you gamble, chances are you're more likely to lose money that earn so i don't think that's the main reason though it may trigger it at times. If a person's interest matchrs that of what gambling brings, then i think that's what mainly causes addiction because it reallu doesnt matter if a person loses a lot of money if they're addicted. As long as they're playing it gives them contentment so i think it's thr actual feeling of gambling that gets these people addicted
1574  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: February 20, 2017, 06:14:53 PM
I have tried several ways to get more money from gambling. poker, dice, bet, and much more, I think that it could make money I have is growing rapidly, but it all is inversely proportional to what I think. maybe because I play in a hurry.

Well there's no doubt that we can make money from gambling. Though making money is actually a lot different from being considered as rich. When we gamble, i think the chances of us getting rich is pretty slim compared to if we invest in successful gambling sites from their beginning. Aside from winning lottery jackpots and becoming a professional gambler if you're really that skilled, i think very few people are rich from gambling. You're more likely to be broke that way Cheesy
1575  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Season on: February 20, 2017, 05:33:03 PM

Anyways, New Orleans Pelicans and Sacramento Kings are now finalizing things now to make DeMarcus be transffered to the Pelicans. Anthony Davis + DeMarcus Cousins, could you imagine what will be the impact of this both player at the paint area? Another great wall in the making.

Just hours after the All-Star game, the news spreads out throughout at various NBA facebook groups. Pelicans sacrifices lots of players together with their future picks to acquired Cousins.

DeMarcus Cousins is no doubt a great additional players at the Pelicans squad. Looks like the management realized what they are lacking as Anthony Davis are really in need of good backups since the start of the season.

Well that makes things a lot more exciting in the west. I think it's about time that the pelicans become title contenders here considering how much talent anthony davis has and i think he just needs to have another player who can help him out more on offenst. I think the pelicans management did a very good job acquiring cousins and the west just got more mixed up this time. A lot more exciting to watch than the scenarios in the east
1576  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does experience matter in gambling? on: February 20, 2017, 05:16:06 PM
With experience we can implement our idea almost in no time. For example, when we got a new idea about a new strategy at dice game, we can apply our new idea easily. So, experience is needed even though it won't change our luck.
Indeed you got that right. I think even for luck based games, experience would in a way still make a difference. Even for games like dice, or roulette, even if you don't know the result of the roll, experience would let you know how to handle your bankroll more efficiently to avoid losing a lot of money in a short amount of time and it will also allow you to know how to properly handle your winnings in case you get lucky
1577  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who can tell that when our luck come to us? on: February 20, 2017, 04:58:24 PM
I would prefer to tell that my luck has come in pre bets that I can manage to lose. If I managed to win, with easy chances and managed to have real profit, I would set a limit and gamble. Then use certain strategies that can make your bankroll double. Try and discover different strategies, so you could earn from it, don't be so greedy.

But where is luck come in your opinion?
Because i am asking thread related with when luck come. Actually, about me, whenever i started to play betting always i think to win every bets, but only few and sometime not few i win in gambling. And sometime i am not thinking and by chance i win.
So in my thinking, i am not agree that someone tell you that luck is coming, we realize about luck when it had come.   
No one will tell you when your luck will come it's is unpredictable. If your time is good you will win your bets. Otherwise, you will end with the loss. The luck comes only a few minutes in a full day play. You have to utilise that time and make some profit. For me when I play low odds bets my luck always with me if I change my betting odds low to high then it will go.
It is true that no one can tell when your luck will come. It will come unpredictable. Luck is something that wouldn't not happen if you don't in yourself that you can get it or you won't cope for it. I agree that luck also depends on your strategy, so if you'll remain at 1 serttings or 1 place of bet, the luck probability is low.
- Yes, luck is so unpredictable, it can come any time, very difficult to give an exact something about luck. But i think luck also depending on experience and your strategy, statistic, analysis,... The matter depends on a variety of factors. However, in gambling luck can never stand on your side, I do not see anyone have luck in gambling, the end of gambling is very bad
Well when it comes to luck, i don't think the factors you've mentioned matters. These matter so that we can maximize all the luck that already came to us. Luck in itself is random. That's it. There's nothing we can do that can influence it and definitely we can't determine when we're going to be lucky or not. We can only maximize the opportunity given to us
1578  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to Win using martingale system? on: February 19, 2017, 07:54:18 PM
i know most of us knew about martingale and we do use that in order to gain profits but we also aware that this same system is not safe in a long term period as we will be caught out of the blue and our winning streak will start to change up, do you have any settings of strategy to make it much worthy to use?

So for me, I believe in order to make a martingle system work you need to have a huge starting bankroll. It will not work if you have a small bankroll because once it hit a loss it will eventually loose all your winnings and your starting money.

Share it here if you have something there Cheesy



If you want to win using martingale you need to have a big fund in your bankroll balance because if not, it wouldn't be enough to use it if you only have a small fund in the bankroll. So much better for you to do gamble in the gambling sites rather than martingale methods. By using martingale it needs self discipline for you to win in the games so it can give you profit even you have a small capital.

i'm not even sure if martingale can be used by everyone though because as you've said, you'd need a pretty big capital to use this system. i've experienced losing 6 or 7 straight dice rolls and i don't think that system would be applicable to someone who would have that long losing streak
1579  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What would you do with your winnings? on: February 19, 2017, 07:38:26 PM
i will always cash out any winning profit that i can make from gambling. because i have very bad bunch of experiences making me wish i never made those mstakes, every time i won something and didn't cash out i ended up losing both the profit and even more from my bankroll trying to win it back.
i promised myslef never again.

Yeah you're right there. Experiences has a way of teaching us over time to correct mistakes we've made. I also in the past lost a lot of winnings because instead of cashing out and puttingnthose winnings for better use, i let my greed and cockiness take over so instead of gping home happy after coming from a casino, i end up with much less money and a lot of regrets
- You look like me very much. Every time I do not withdraw profit, my end results is the number 0, I feel so sorry because greed and arrogance, I need to earn a lot of money but I didn't realize arrogance and greed that killed me. If everything can get a start again, I won't make the same mistake. Now, I must pay for my mistakes, I given up gambling and I'm hard-working, gambling not suitable for me

I think this works for most of us here. And i agree that being greedy with your winnings and not knowing when to have enough would bring you more harm than good financially. Thinking that we can win for an extended period of time exposes us to the prospect of being greedy and that's when things will go downhill for us. So if you're fortunate enough to win, get out and either save your winnings or treat yourself and others
1580  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Favorite contact sport events to gamble with? on: February 19, 2017, 07:11:16 PM
well me too. first would be boxing and i think it would be the same for most of us here. Betting for mayweather probably is the easiest way to make profit as his style makes it very difficult for anyone to beat him. he may not be that much fun to watch but his effectiveness in his style makes him almost an instant win. Also, in mma, i think during the time when fedor was at his prime, i don't think anyone can beat him, even fighters from the ufc during that time. it's a shame he didn't sign up for the ufc then.
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