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1561  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Bitcoin on: March 19, 2023, 12:06:25 PM
Memangnya ada kasus apa gan sampai harus memahami sedalam itu?  Grin
Misalnya seperti kasus The Fed kemarin itu lho Mas, sehingga membuat bitcoin sedikit terpukul menuju garis merah?  Grin

Pada dasarnya masalah demand dan supplay itu adalah adalah pengetahuan umum tentang trading gan.
Sederhananya ketika demand pada suatu produk meningkat, maka harga pun ikut terdorong menjadi lebih mahal, apalagi jika dipengaruhi oleh kelangkaan dari produk itu sendiri seperti bitcoin - dan juga sebaliknya.

Belajar lagi: Apa yang menentukan harga bitcoin?
Jika untuk produk selain bitcoin mungkin saya setuju gan, tetapi saya kira untuk bitcoin hanya sebagian kecil pengaruh kenaikan harga disebabkan oleh demand dan supplay. Asumsinya begini mas jika salah di koreksi ya, misalnya bitcoin mengalami penurunan tajam pada koreksi di pasar, seharusnya proses demand dan supplay ini bisa dimainkan oleh mereka yang memegang bitcoin dalam jumlah besar, sehingga bitcoin dapat menguat dan tidak perlu menunggu proses siklus empat tahunan, dengan kata lain demand dan supplay membatah narasi empat tahunan.

Tetapi bukan berarti saya tidak setuju proses demand dan supplay memiliki pengaruh terhadap kenaikan harga bitcoin, menurut saya konsep desentralisasi berbeda dengan perjalanan produk lain dalam memainkan harga di pasar, sehingga ada faktor lain yang juga berhubungan dengan proses kenaikan dan penurunan harga bitcoin, meskipun dalam rumus ekonomi demand dan supplay adalah proses penting.
1562  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: March 19, 2023, 11:41:45 AM
Yes, I didn't think that Southampton could play like this I mean they don't give up and even have the opportunity to get 1 or 3 points in this match
30 minutes left and I need one more goal to win my bet over 2.5 goals I hope Harry Kane can complete it usually he always comes as a determinant
In another match Brentford vs Leicester city still can't be determined who the winner both teams play defensively.

LOL I don't expect the final score to be 3-3 even though Tottenham is 3-1 ahead
Southampton managed to balance Tottenham's match, even though they were 1-3 down until 74 minutes, two additional goals in the second half did not make Tottenham bring home the full points in the match, because Walcott and James Ward managed to equalize. Tottenham's performance in the second half was a little disappointing and even they lost possession and found it difficult to get out of Southampton's pressure. It's a shame Tottenham have to miss the chance to overtake United in third place and even though United haven't played their 27th game yet. LOL
1563  Economy / Speculation / Re: repetition of 2008 crisis and what it means for bitcoin on: March 18, 2023, 08:24:23 PM
-Snip- i believe the more banks fail, the more bitcoin price is going to shoot up.
this year we could see much worse financial crisis and a much bigger bitcoin price rise in one of the biggest FOMOs that bitcoin has seen so far.
I remember very well how the Bitcoin process in 2019 to 2021, Pandemi, Recession and Inflation really destroyed the economy of many countries, but strangely Bitcoin reached the peak of its ATH at that time and that's why the correlation is a bit reasonable in my opinion.

I agree if it is said that Bitcoin is able to maintain the quality of its value during a recession and inflation, because we have seen this when the world economic conditions are chaotic and the financial crisis has hit. But it does not have the power to say this year will be repeated like 2021 and the price of Bitcoin does not depend on other markets for now and is reflected in the movement of traditional stocks that we see as it is today.
1564  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Bitcoin on: March 18, 2023, 07:06:32 PM
Jadi menurut saya daya beli selama seminggu terakhir setelah sempat mengalami koreksi telah mulai meningkat, bahkan volume perdagangan bitcoin bisa sampai $70.714.394.276 pada 15 Maret. Artinya daya beli memang sedang meningkat.
Masih mencoba memahami lebih dalam kasus kenaikan harga bitcoin saat ini, berdasarkan kaitannya dengan volume perdagangan yang mengalami peningkatan, itu artinya hubungan demand and supply sedang berjalan dengan cepat dipasar sehingga terjadinya peningkatan volume jual maupun beli, tetapi sejauh ini saya juga belum memiliki referensi terhadap pengaruh lain yang membuat Bitcoin terpompa cepat menuju pada harga saat ini setelah koreksi.

Apakah faktor demand and supplay hanya akan di pengaruhi pada saat bitcoin mendapatkan momen seperti ini atau ada faktor lain yang juga mendorong bitcoin terpompa seperti sekarang dan apakah faktor keseimbangan pembelian dan penjualan juga memiliki hubungan terhadap kenaikan harga?
1565  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: March 18, 2023, 04:14:44 PM
Tottenham have won four of their last six meetings with Southampton in all competitions and haven't lost any of their last three trips to St Mary's. The hosts have lost three of their last five matches in league and cup, going down 2-0 at home to Brentford in midweek, while Spurs have won three of their last four outings in the Premier League, the viisiting team deserve to win this game that's if they bring in their previous pattern of play.
The match was more evenly matched and neither side dominated in the first half, Southampton had a few attempts but were unable to capitalize on any chances to score. Pedro Porro managed to take advantage of the bait provided by Son Heung in the 45th minute, thus creating the first goal for Tottenham. Entering the second half Southampton managed to equalize through Che Adams and I think they need to be able to play more openly in order to put pressure on Tottenham.
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1569  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Fiat to crypto scam still existing always on: March 15, 2023, 06:26:44 AM
The new war equipment used by scammers is like a marketing strategy used by companies to promote their products. Tricks like this may still claim many victims outside the forum due to the lack of prevention as in the forum. Reading not only adds insight and knowledge, but can save yourself from scammers.
Lucky enough for those of us who join this forum, so many filters that we get and many sources that we can browse to see the truth. I can't imagine how people outside the forum who only hear about this scam from the news are and trapped deep in it, because if you only rely on reading I don't think it will be optimal either, because there is no discussion and place to ask directly.

Say for those who are outside the forum, knowing this kind of fraud only from the news, but there are not many sources that they can learn to understand the pattern of the fraud, while we can continue in a more in-depth discussion, So that our understanding and knowledge increases, this is another advantage for those of us who join Bitcointalk.

Greedy people who are lazy to learn very often get caught up in tricks done by scammers even though the methods used are commonly known to many people.
Greed and shallow understanding will bring people to a downward stage so that they are more easily deceived by any concept developed by scammers and that is the importance of science to fortify them.
1570  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How do you interpret the fluctuation of Bitcoin price ? on: March 15, 2023, 05:15:43 AM
Bitcoin price has dropped below $20k from the recent high of $25k in mid February. Personally I have no problem with this fluctuation because compared to altcoins and taking the bear market into consideration, Bitcoin is still reliable and the volatility is pretty reasonable.
You will always see bitcoin fluctuations in the market, the process of correction and recovery will continue at any time and can never be avoided. You already know bitcoin that's why it doesn't matter about price fluctuations, but it will be different if people who don't understand bitcoin.

For new potential investors, is this still a good time to invest in Bitcoin ? What do you think of the recent drop of Bitcoin price ? Please share your views.
Most people rely on bitcoin as a long term investment and some use short term patterns. For the long term potential whenever you can take the approach to make a purchase, while the short term depends on how you want to profit. I think bitcoin can be bought in any condition according to the investment pattern you make, but most people use the decline process as an approach to buying.

There is a term market sentiment that occurs so that bitcoin has decreased, one of which may be negative news that is developing or there are other, more fundamental influences that cause bitcoin to be corrected and there may be many factors causing the decline that occurred. According to my observations today and yesterday bitcoin has returned to the recovery stage from the previous correction process, even today it is in the $24k price range.
1571  Economy / Economics / Re: Planning avoids unnecessary expenses on: March 15, 2023, 04:23:54 AM
Narrative is quite good in the principle of life that you prepare, but in many places of practice it does not go as smooth as expected, right?Accidents cannot be predicted and anyone does not want to get the accident. However, a person must have a backup plan in living life, for example preparing special savings or long-term planning to start investment, so that the level of financial capability that we get will be useful when things are not wanted.

Anyone should avoid unnecessary purchases and luxurious lifestyles, because we cannot predict financial conditions what will happen in the future, people who have more abilities even more efficient than those of us who have standard income, herein lies the mistakes of many people in planning life.
Patience is the key to success - one should do things with time and learning. Doing the proper homework is the one of the finest way of doing thing.
The keyword patience can be implemented when someone has a financial plan that has been prepared, if you are just patient and don't do anything, then patience will not bring a solution to this problem.

To avoid unnecessary expenses there is also a portion that must be considered, without neglecting social status in carrying out friendships with friends and family, as human beings we definitely need holidays, eating out with family/friends and social relations with others. If we don't have financial planning, it will be difficult to reach this level and to be more precise, being wise in using money is the best way to avoid unnecessary expenses.
1572  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: March 15, 2023, 03:08:09 AM
The next match between intermilan vs juventus gonna be a very interesting match. It's quite hard to determine which team that will be winning the match considering juventus's performance is very consistent at this moment, unlike intermilan which was declining a little bit. The result against spezia has become the main concern. It seems like both are equal at this moment. There will be also the same match to come between intermilan vs juventus in copa italia. I may think to pick juventus over intermilan.
This will be the big match for this week in the Italian league, Juventus' performance is much more promising compared to Inter Milan at the moment based on the statistics of the previous matches for the two clubs, thus taking betting opportunities for Juventus is more promising, but the rivalry of the two will always be different if in see competition in the struggle for titles and prestige, so looking at statistics alone is not enough to make a decision to choose Juventus or Inter Milan.

The match napoli vs torino gonna be another easy bet for us. Napoli will be actually winning the match against torino. Napoli's odd is really really good. I just take the result from the first meeting between napoli against torino last year. Napoli was winning 3-1 against torino, The outcome of next meeting between napoli vs torino is easy to predict. napoli gonna win it.
For the Torino vs Napoli match it doesn't seem so difficult to predict, because Napoli is in its best form at the moment, even so Torino also cannot be underestimated because they might play unexpectedly, especially their last two wins will be a motivation to continue the trend positive in this match, therefore Spalletti must be careful and must not underestimate Torino.
1573  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is ageing and old people part of bitcoin? on: March 14, 2023, 07:05:09 AM
Parents that are of age, what do we think about then? Do you think they're eligible and learned to learn about bitcoin? Talking about ageing parents of 70, 80, and 90s. Looking at the current world parents don't like their children to be exposed to internet maybe because of their past experience of scam threats or they've trade something similar to bitcoin in the past.
There are no conditions that must be met if they intend to study? Age as you said is no longer their world to learn bitcoin, just imagine how we will explain something about bitcoin and where to start, while their eyesight is a little blurry, their forgetful memory and readiness to take risks is also quite worrying.

Someone over the age of 70, 80 and 90 will be very susceptible to pressure and if something happens, for example bitcoin is hit hard at a low price, then blood pressure will bring them to a heart attack stage. The question is who will be responsible?

Do you think our ageing parents are into crypto investment or trading? Some of them are sound and intelligent and they can comfortable operates their tabs while relaxing. If they're probably into crypto why are some of them advising their children to diseased from internet?
Basically there is no age limit for investing, because bitcoin was not created for just a handful of people, but the age factor makes it difficult for them to accept the concept and workings of bitcoin and crypto in general. There are many limitations that make it difficult for them to adapt, one of which is technological prowess that they do not master, but of the many parents there are also those who are involved in the crypto space, both using investments and as developers. But I have to agree, that their representation is very little involved.

And it's not advisable for the OP to influence his father and grandfather to invest in bitcoin, because there will be a lot of messes for you to clean up later.
1574  Economy / Economics / Re: Planning avoids unnecessary expenses on: March 14, 2023, 05:23:49 AM
Narrative is quite good in the principle of life that you prepare, but in many places of practice it does not go as smooth as expected, right?Accidents cannot be predicted and anyone does not want to get the accident. However, a person must have a backup plan in living life, for example preparing special savings or long-term planning to start investment, so that the level of financial capability that we get will be useful when things are not wanted.

Anyone should avoid unnecessary purchases and luxurious lifestyles, because we cannot predict financial conditions what will happen in the future, people who have more abilities even more efficient than those of us who have standard income, herein lies the mistakes of many people in planning life.
1575  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What if a change in people's views? on: March 14, 2023, 04:17:39 AM
there will always have some sort of inflation
the push pull for sure
but that is dependent on many variables etc, at least it is possible to get rid of one form of\ inflation if the entire market place was based on a money system that had a limited supply
what are your thoughts on what if the majority of the population all of a sudden sold all their fiat and put it into a crypto? like BTC, do u think the system or part of the traditional finance system see some type of impact/disruption?
Do you think fiat currency is limited in its creation?
I mean that there are several reasons for the variables that underlie inflation, not only in terms of how much currency is printed and its limited availability, but also because the circulation is unbalanced, causing price spikes in the market to go up uncontrollably. This scenario often leads to inflation and although there are other patterns that affect it too.

So what if everyone starts dumping fiat and trying to put their money into bitcoin?
1. There will be chaos in the crypto market because everyone will be buying bitcoins with a limited amount of availability, thus making bitcoin go up without following the four year scheme and any pattern anymore.
2. Maybe you and I will never be able to buy bitcoin again, if everyone will throw away fiat and try to put it back into bitcoin.

This scenario is unlikely to occur in the near future and even for the next few years, because it is unlikely that people will throw away fiat with a lot of consideration and also throwing away all fiat does not make an appropriate solution to curb inflation
1576  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: March 14, 2023, 03:34:46 AM
Roma had tried so hard that they got a red card in the middle minutes, and this is what made Roma lose because they had to play with a lack of players and the enemy got a penalty shot that was executed well. If Marash Kumbulla didn't make mistakes and could keep his emotions in check, then there will be no offense that will cost Rome dearly.
Sassuolo managed to put pressure on Roma from the early minutes, so that they managed to score two goals in the first half. Roma's defense was actually good, but because Marash Kumbulla received a red card in the extra minutes of the first half, it was difficult for Roma to play more openly because they had to close the gap left by Kumbulla. Entering the second half, Roma's game was increasingly uncoordinated even though they managed to control the ball. Sunting: Armand Laurente scored two goals and an assist for this game.
But As Roma still deserves appreciation in this match. because they were able to score two goals in the second half with only 10 players on the field. Sassuolo scored 3 goals in the first half. but in the second half Sassuolo was only able to score 1 goal. And As Roma's mistake was that they were too careless in the first half. but in the second half Roma could develop their game and scored 2 goals even with only 10 players. but with 10 players it does make them not very organized. and I was a little disappointed with this result.
If only Marash Kumbulla didn't get a red card, maybe the final result wouldn't be like this because Roma could have played more openly without having to cover the empty space left by Kumbulla, now Roma are back in fifth place in the standings after AC Milan drew with Salernitana. The competition for positions from two to five in the standings is increasingly attractive as a condition for qualifying for the Champions League, so that four clubs must compete to secure the top four positions until the end of the season.
1577  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: I hope newbies learn something from this on: March 13, 2023, 08:04:24 AM

I believe the project team are scammers and they only use Camelot reputation to attract investors, meanwhile, they have their harmful plan in mind,  this also show that Camelot is a weak presale platform, for allowing the unallocated plan. Stay wise and stay safe.  
I agree more with projects that have reached a stable level, not new projects or are still in the presale stage that still rely on hype. Any newbie who doesn't understand the basics of the project in the presale process will be very young to be conned, with so much hype deliberately developed by them, that at some stage many people will be stuck in a that is deliberately made.

Even if some people benefit from the project, but it is not recommended to get involved for anyone, research or analysis is required and if their knowledge is still not at this stage, it is better to avoid losses for such a project. Many cases we see how new projects are developed and in the end they leave after achieving huge profits.
1578  Economy / Economics / Re: Why do people stay poor? on: March 13, 2023, 07:19:35 AM
I have always wanted to ask this question is it that there is no opportunity or they do not want to get rich
Mate please more to this I am confused here.
Not more confused than your question?
Nobody wants to be poor, but not many people have the opportunity to become rich. The mindset of the poor must be changed and they must be taught how to work smart and not work hard.

In the understanding of many rich people working hard and working smart are different, because they don't rely on energy to work, but instead create skills that can be used as their driving force, the environment and family are just the driving factors, two points don't always apply and don't always become a reference for everyone. If you want to be rich, work smart, have skills and have something that others can rely on is an obligation. Without these skills it will be difficult for anyone to become rich.
1579  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I have failed too severely, time to give up? on: March 13, 2023, 06:41:20 AM
Those who buy bags of cocoa from my farm are older illiterate people, I wasted my energy,  trying to even tell them the benefits that comes with paying with Bitcoin, they are not even ready to take advantage of my discount, then I stopped.
Your biggest mistake is trying to use a payment pattern using bitcoin to illiterate people, how is it possible that they will be interested in the concept you are developing, on the other hand they don't know bitcoin. One stupid mistake you make that causes your time to be wasted and you need to think of other ways to generate income from the bitcoins you have.

In 2020, two special buyers are now handled by younger guys, the sons, I thought I will be able to handle them and make Bitcoin payment a possibility,  it still doesn't work, these young lads are just like their old men.
If people are not tech savvy, never offer them bitcoins, because for them using fiat as a transaction is the most appropriate move. Therefore you must do a study before imposing your desire for bitcoin on other people, not everyone thinks the same about using bitcoin in their life.

So I give up, I decided to talk about this because I still find it hard to believe that no where in this world of agriculture is accepting Bitcoin as means of payment. 
We also need to know which country you live in, so there will be a big review of why the bitcoin payment option isn't working for your farming business.

Many countries have not been able to accept bitcoin as a means of payment, because many things have caused it to not work properly, while your desire to accept bitcoin as a means of transaction will face big challenges. The most appropriate step to stop this mess, the concept of using payment using bitcoin will never work in your place, it takes time for them to accept all of that and you can't force it to run fast.
1580  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: March 13, 2023, 04:38:06 AM
Roma had tried so hard that they got a red card in the middle minutes, and this is what made Roma lose because they had to play with a lack of players and the enemy got a penalty shot that was executed well. If Marash Kumbulla didn't make mistakes and could keep his emotions in check, then there will be no offense that will cost Rome dearly.
Sassuolo managed to put pressure on Roma from the early minutes, so that they managed to score two goals in the first half. Roma's defense was actually good, but because Marash Kumbulla received a red card in the extra minutes of the first half, it was difficult for Roma to play more openly because they had to close the gap left by Kumbulla. Entering the second half, Roma's game was increasingly uncoordinated even though they managed to control the ball. Sunting: Armand Laurente scored two goals and an assist for this game.
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