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1561  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Official BitBay Thread |Smart Contracts Wallet UPDATE|Decentralized Marketplace on: April 24, 2017, 09:29:57 AM

And even potentially watch Bays value rise because the peg is "rolling" or "moving" and not fixed.

Ah !

I get it now. So "rolling" in this context means that the peg itself can move ? So it's basically like a regularly freely-traded asset except that the exchange rate moves discretely instead of continuously ?
1562  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Official BitBay Thread |Smart Contracts Wallet UPDATE|Decentralized Marketplace on: April 24, 2017, 08:02:33 AM

I actually dont know jack shit abt Bay's coin supply.. can any1 elaborate? cuz for me, 800 sats for a 1B coin supply is just fucked up

What exactly is f*cd up about it ?

NxT - which is almost dead has a 1B supply and it trades at nearly 2000 Sats. NEM has a 9 Billion supply and it trades at 2500 Sats. SIA has a 23 Billion supply which would equate to a price of 1380 Sats with Bitbay's 1B supply.

It's just 3 years solid development getting priced in.

1563  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Official BitBay Thread |Smart Contracts Wallet UPDATE|Decentralized Marketplace on: April 24, 2017, 12:21:20 AM

Okay I have solved the issue with Mac QT wallet.


1564  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: April 23, 2017, 11:51:15 PM

Surprised I don't hear more talk about Evan switching roles.     How far is he removing himself from the Dash's direction and why now?   Why before Evolution?

He's just doing what he's been saying he wanted to do for the last couple of years - spending more time working on the 'vision' and less on coding. (Probably starting with some of those "Dash DAO's" that are going to be on the receiving end of some new venture capital).

1565  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: April 20, 2017, 09:24:00 AM

Since when was the manager any help?  LOL

Quite a lot of times actually.

Notwithstanding the current "anti-bankster" fever, we can't ignore the fact that the original reason people used banks was for 'safekeeping' which to a large extent was insured.

Useability and all that stuff is nice while everything works. But as soon as it doesn't you're screwed. There is no recourse to any party to replace funds or otherwise make good on losses.
1566  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: April 20, 2017, 06:30:05 AM

Thus, you get the easy to manage and use experience of a centralized service (banking) with a full cryptographic currency which is completely decentralized.

But unlike a centralised service (banking) you won't get your balanced replaced when it all goes up in smoke Wink

Funds gone forever with no recourse to 'the manager'.
1567  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: which coin do you think will been listed on poloniex next on: April 19, 2017, 03:19:44 PM

BAY


1568  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICASH] iCash | Anonymous | X11 | Masternodes | Darksend | InstantX on: April 19, 2017, 09:16:50 AM

iCash skyrocketing.
1569  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Dash Instamine is a non-issue. on: April 18, 2017, 06:43:06 PM

I think the only possible worse case scenario on Dash premine is if the developers or whoever holds those premined coins starts selling the coins in order to take profit

There are no premined coins.

There were "fastmined" coins for a couple of hours during which many people mined.

The biggest holder however, was not a miner but a buyer, since even with the fastmine it was still cheaper to buy in markets than mine and there were tens of thousands on sale for several weeks for a few BTC.

That holder has since executed exactly your "worst case scenario" and sold nearly 80% of their holdings in OTC (over the counter) sales during the last couple of years. (Around 400,000 coins by most accounts I can gather).
1570  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Dash Instamine is a non-issue. on: April 18, 2017, 05:56:26 PM
what other excuses can you invent?

I'm not the one needing the excuse.

You are Wink
1571  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Dash Instamine is a non-issue. on: April 18, 2017, 05:43:55 PM

A small example of the nonsense to be found in your "citations" from 1 year ago:

but I can tell you that it makes no economic sense to hold Dash long term unless it is in a masternode.

Dash ratio to Bitcoin at the time that post was made: 0.016
Dash ratio to Bitcoin today: 0.05+

A 300% return against Bitcoin for anyone not holding Dash in masternodes.

Dash exchange rate with $USD at the time that post was made: $5.94
Dash exchange rate with $USD today: $73

A 1200% return against the $USD for anyone not holding Dash in masternodes. (And that's after a 50% retrace from the last ATH).

Of course if anyone had listened to your overtures of the time they'd have been better throwing their money down the toilet.

Cite all the "observable facts" you like over the next few years. I might post a few of my own Wink
1572  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Dash Instamine is a non-issue. on: April 18, 2017, 05:23:56 PM

SCAM = unfair and dishonest scheme

Speaking of which, maybe it's time you start apologising for all the crap you've been spewing since day 1 of this affair since there are far more people that missed out on a decent return from a sound asset due to that than ever missed out on mining in the first couple of hours 3 years ago.

1573  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Dash Instamine is a non-issue. on: April 18, 2017, 05:00:00 PM

You never answer questions but rather dream up these strange concepts and thought experiments that corroborate the pov only a motivated scammer can identify with.

I did answer the question unequivocally. I said Dash wasn't a scam and that you are incorrect in making that assertion.

I've pointed out that your "proof" is no more than your own deluded melodrama of turning a flawed launch concerning millions of worthless coins into some kind of extreme "heist". There's not an asset in existence that you can't frame in some adverse perspective that projects it as a "gravy train for the few" as you did with your inane last post.

I don't have any problem with that in principle - you're welcome to battling your little windmills because as I've repeatedly pointed out, markets exist to aggregate both our views. Just don't be surprised when others take a more constructive view and end up having that reflected in future growth.
1574  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Dash Instamine is a non-issue. on: April 18, 2017, 04:06:29 PM

Like I say.

That herbal tea works wonders. Specially when what you keep saying's gonna happen keeps not happening Wink

P.S.  Re. "the vast majority". They're already invested, participating in masternodes, participating in voting, participating in ROI and participating in the future  Smiley

For example. Here's one of them that takes a somewhat more inspirational view than yours.
1575  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Dash Instamine is a non-issue. on: April 18, 2017, 03:28:37 PM

Let people buy dash if they want but if they ask about the instamine/premine apparently fair launch POW don't tell them it wasn't a scam. It makes you a liar and a scammer yourself.

Actually it would do just the opposite - I'd be 'scamming' them if I did describe it as a scam and steering them away from what is a potentially very successful investment.

In fact Dash is one of the best distributed and thoughroghly viable assets out there right now. One who's history, personnel, technology and trading characteristics have probably been under the microscope more than any other crypto. Where the development team are all known, hard working individuals. Well managed and one of the few that hasn't collapsed in acrimony, that's consistently created sensible roadmaps and delivered on them.

2 million or so coins were mined in the first few hours. The emission profile got changed early on. Deal with it. It isn't a scam, it's something for the market to price in. As such it takes its place alongside offerings that don't have the instamine so stop acting like some 3 year old kid that's not being given a choice of toddler tea. Your faux ethics and sanctimonious ramblings are a poor disguise for the fact that you're simply nettled at the valuation.

Drink some more herbal tea and filter line 4 on your coinmarket listing and the discomfort will subside Wink
1576  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Dash Instamine is a non-issue. on: April 18, 2017, 12:54:19 PM

Let's take a look at the first 5 h of Darkcoin (XCoin at that time)...

Well, like I say. You lost the argument (but apparently still didn't realise it).
1577  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Dash Instamine is a non-issue. on: April 18, 2017, 11:54:03 AM

Which argument has been lost?

LoL.

The argument that "Dash is a scam".
1578  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Dash Instamine is a non-issue. on: April 18, 2017, 11:15:32 AM

Which argument did those with proof that dash is a scam lose?
I'm interested?

That's because you excel in the category on the left - hey be my guest Wink
1579  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Dash Instamine is a non-issue. on: April 18, 2017, 09:55:32 AM

It's an issue for trainspotting zealots who don't know when they've lost an argument.

For anyone else it's been a great investment and hasn't even begun to reach its full potential yet.

Luckily there are markets to allow both points of view to express an opinion.

1580  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PIVX] - PRIVATE INSTANT VERIFIED TRANSACTION - POS 2.0 - ZEROCOIN PROTOCOL on: April 17, 2017, 08:59:19 AM
Dash has a 2 tier network (masternodes). Decred has a 1 tier network. With Decred, your coins are locked after purchasing tickets (voting rights) (constraining the supply).  With Dash, you can sell a masternode at any time.  With Decred, anyone can vote / participate.  With Dash, only the wealthy can participate.  With Decred, upgrades are precoded into the chain.  The chain automatically switches to the upgrades after a successful "yes" vote.  With Dash, the developers must then code the upgrade after the vote and hope everyone switches.  Decred is a decentralized autonomous organization (DAO), designed from the ground up.  It has a unique consensus system (which makes an "ethereum classic situation" extremely unlikely), is self funding, and is written from scratch in Golang by very well respected bitcoin developers (BTC Suite)

Difficult to tell whether this is promotion or FUD for Decred.

It's about the worst designed coin I've come across recently (if not ever). The idea of voting code forks into production is a bit like sticking a control-yoke in every seat-back in an airliner and letting the passengers 'steer' it based on their aggregate deflections. No quality control (cos devs never know if the code they're working on is going into production or not). No long term roadmaps possible (cos short and long term priorities in conflict). It also blows away all the security you get from a multiple stakeholder consensus mechanism that includes miners, merhants, developers and holders, stuffing all the control into a single unguided missile.

As far as the Dash-disinfo goes

 • Only for the Rich
eh...the reason it's not "cheap" is because it's working as a store of value. Also, the protocol doesn't require anyone to hold a minimum threshold to gain a return, it requires that of a node which isn't the same thing since nodes have multiple holders in the general case.

 • Sell a Masternode at any Time
Again - a feature, not a bug. The blockchain does not 'rig' the market.

Meanwhile: on an on-topic front, PIVX skyrocketing. But is it because it's on a tiny liquidity exchange and big holders are waiting for the high liquidity exchanges to cash out massive amounts ? Once the turnaround takes place is it going to be driven into the ground ? Should I dump now or is the revaluation eventually going to stabilise and only retrace about 50% ?

Need to think.
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