For me roger ver takes bitcoin slowly, They mislead newbies you need to search and be wise in roger ver. Difference between Bitcoin and altcoin, The altcoin is bitcoin cash, I think that bitcoin cash community is better than roger ver. They destroy bitcoin he ruined the reputation of coins. Without doubt you are correct Bitcoin Cash is an altcoin, it should never be used as a tool to try to overthrow Bitcoin until or unless the majority of the community say otherwise. |
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Of all the wallets out there does anybody know the percentage of users for Bitcoin wallet type? Curious to know the breakdown. https://bitcoin.org/en/choose-your-walletWhat percentage of users are using for example Bitcoin Core, Electrum, Armory etc and which percentage are using smartphone wallets over PC such as Arcbit and Airbitz? |
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If those wallets belong to MtGox then why are the Bitcoin still there? They should be given to the people that were scammed.
Because they don't them to return it to the people that is why they were branded as scammers and they said this is the primary reason bitcoin has fallen to $7000 because of the actions of these wretched scammers. I wish cryptocurrency system develop a strict method of seizing funds from these scammers who are ruining the market. I was under the impression that the authorities seized all assets of MtGox and were going to distribute the funds to all those that got scammed depending what they lost and what they can prove. Why these wallets are still associated with MtGox and why they contain thousands of bitcoins is strange. Does anybody have the keys to those wallets? |
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160,000 Bitcoins would go a long way to help people that got scammed. I hope the affected people get something back.
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What did happen to all MtGox wallets? Did the authorities trace them all?
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If those wallets belong to MtGox then why are the Bitcoin still there? They should be given to the people that were scammed.
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The thing is that it's completely personal with him, and has been for years. Regardless of specific grievances with the Bitcoin devs apparently being 'fees, transaction times and block size' even if things were 100% perfect he'd still be against them at this point. Even now things are pretty great right now and the scaling is going well. But Roger is more interested in his own personal power, ego, and wealth. After watching him devolve into what he's become over the last few years it would take a complete 180 and him admitting he's been completely full of it for me to even consider giving him some credit. Many agree with you. Everything points to Ver throwing a tantrum and him using the very same wealth that Bitcoin provided to try to attack Bitcoin and create Bitcoin Cash. Even with the complete 180 you refer to, many will not forgive him and not forget but surely IF he has a genuine change of heart and gives to bitcoin.com domain to the community then it would be a great step to make amends. I wonder if anybody has reached out to Ver to try get him to understand the extent of damage the confusion bitcoin.com domain is creating. |
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For me Roger Ver has damaged the confidence of the people because he wanted to sink the bitcoin price slowly so that the project he has now bitcoin cash wants to be a number. It is very difficult because it takes extra hard work takes a long time. Many agree with you. Very sad actually that Roger Ver has done that. |
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With all the banking deals being and contracts being signed to work on the Ripple network makes sense to buy
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Yeah there are some thinly veiled insults in there for sure. He shouldn't attack Bitcoin, that shouldn't come from a major BCH supporter. Bashing the competition never makes you or what you are supporting look good. Quite the contrary actually. If BCH is that great, then the free market will decide. It should be able to stand on its own merit, and it does.
Never bash the competition. Playfully is ok, jokingly sure, but the way he does it is unacceptable as a representative of BCH. So where does that leave Ver and the community IF he decides to come clean and apologise? Would he we welcomed back with either open arms or with a bit of scepticism? |
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@franky1 Please if you want to be taken seriously you should reduce the length of all future posts, they are too long  |
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This will serve as a lesson to as many as with bad intentions, so many bitcoin enthusiasts say that Roger Ver is one of the main characters who will damage the crypto world because his greed and such misleading actions, I hope they will have success with this lawsuit as it will be a major breakthrough. The lawsuit will not go ahead because of lack of funding |
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It's old video, but i think he don't truly apologize. He still attack Bitcoin in his "apologize" video.
Also, why should we (Bitcoin supporters) wasting our time and care about people who continuously attack Bitcoin.
Maybe he should start from learning the different Between cryptocurrency name with cryptocurrency client name. I broadly agree with you but my point was that IF he stops making problems and accepts he was wrong then should Ver be welcomed back to the community and afforded some respect? Or do you think the damage is done and in the unlikely event he apologises it would be too little too late? |
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define bitcoin in YOUR own mindset. (not using the scripted definition of 2009-2013) define it as you see it now. that way we can see are you really a bitcoin decentralist or a core centralist
plus i have never defended ver. i have detested core.
learn the difference.
try not to be a reddit script reader. as today it seems you have learned the hard way you have been pushing a script thats 7 months out of date
and ask yourself what you truly are defending. because you seem like a core defender not a bitcoin decentralist franky1 this thread is not about the virtues of Bitcoin or Bitcoin Cash, this thread is about Ver apologising for his outburst and whether he should one day be welcomed back in to this community of ours |
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Awwww here comes franky1 with his ever so long posts promoting Bitcoin Cash and Ver.... I along with many others just scroll past most of what he writes Keeping that aside this thread has been started to ask about whether Ver should be welcomed back in to the community IF he stops his perceived war on Bitcoin. |
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it's nice he has apologized, but what is most disturbing is to see the person really cares about his ego and money more than anything other, he's no better than 99% of this community I guess you are right, he has (partially) apologised after all. Hopefully one day Ver will realise his ego is getting in the way of him doing the right thing with Bitcoin. |
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Putting down Bitcoin publicly is for only 1 reason for him: his own interest, for money. His attempt to disrupt Bitcoin is also followed by the majority of the BCH community following the same path and using the same method. Will we see all of the BCH trolls apologies in public as well? No. He did it for a very long time now and he doesn't deserve some sympathy for this video
Bitcoin doesn't need Roger Ver to advocate anymore. We are fine without him True bitcoin does not need Roger Ver but if he backs down from what many seem to be his petty behaviour do you think he should be welcomed back with open arms? Everybody deserves a second chance right? |
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As much as I dislike BCH and disregarding everything else in the debate, John Carvalho was kinda childish in my opinion. Saying "Bcash bcash bcash" in a mocking manner is a quite childish move when having a debate, whether or not he is right or not. Agreed, in the original video there was no excuse for what Ver did by behaving in a rude manner but that interviewer did provoke Ver. |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8uNkcvtRtAYou have to admit that it was actually a big step for Ver to come forward and apologise for his conduct during the infamous "Rage Video". We all know he did not have to do it but it was a step in the right direction. Personally I think it falls short because there is less apologising and more blaming the other party going on but nevertheless he stated why aspects of that interview got to him and he lost his temper. Now when it comes to Ver and what people perceive as his failed attempt to take over Bitcoin and his current attempt to disrupt Bitcoin by trying to conflate it with Bitcoin Cash, I am with the majority in that what he has done and what he is doing is wrong but when someone tries to make some amends it should be appreciated and accepted by the community. Sure, his apology was all about his conduct during the Rage Interview and not about him creating confusion with his bitcoin.com domain but that might be a start, an avenue to a new beginning which might result in Ver being welcomed back to the community with open arms as long as he changes slowly but surely towards helping Bitcoin while still keeping and promoting his Bitcoin Cash. Though Bitcoin is king and will remain for many years to come the truth is Bitcoin would be a little stronger having Ver advocating it and promoting it. Bitcoin will go on and move forward regardless of whether Ver is on its side or not but having someone with his profile and history (the positive parts) to promote Bitcoin will only be a good move. This morning I spent an hour or so looking at his posts from when as a newbie here. There was no indication at that time that he would be so disliked in the community because he was so helpful promoting Bitcoin with billboards and radio ads that he paid for, surely that counts for something. Something obviously went wrong in the thinking and psyche of Ver which was the reason why he began to have a dislike of Bitcoin. If there is any way to get Ver back on side then it will be a win-win situation all round. Does anybody know the actual specific grievances Ver has with the Bitcoin developers apart from fees, transaction times and block size?
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Huge number of newbies keep pushing this thread up  |
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