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15741  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2018-07-16] Bitcoin Activists Tour Argentina in La Bitcoineta "Bitmobile" on: July 16, 2018, 09:56:03 AM
I like these initiatives, especially with how people here mostly take for granted that adoption will grow out itself by not doing anything to stimulate it. That's exactly why we have so many get rich quick assholes here.

I can happily say that I have done my best to make Bitcoin function as a currency within the circle I'm frequently doing business with. They don't necessarily hold all their coins, but they acknowledge the power of a currency that can't be blocked or censored by any shitty bank or government. That's 100 times better than having them use it as speculative shittool. Financial freedom is worth way more than lousy fiat profits, not everyone realizes that yet.

Yeah! I'm a huge fan (yes, fan, I'll admit) of these type of initiatives. We give so much space in the media to high-level conferences and corporate conventions. We see big suits talking tech and disruptions.

But it's when people are on the ground, telling people about this new form of money, with no gain and no fame, that I really sit up and read. From geocache Bitcoin treasure hunts in Africa to enthusiasts sharing their efforts at small home mining rigs, to regular coffee meetups (paid with Bitcoin of course!), devs who still devote their lives to activism and Bitcoin... these guys do a hell of a lot more for adoption than any "revolutionary platform" will.

And oh, guys like you, of course Wink Keep Bitcoining!

15742  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Game of Thrones - Who will rule? Odds and betting discussion [Odds updated!] on: July 16, 2018, 08:34:23 AM
@buwaytress. I have not checked yet but I reckon Nitrogensports have them back again. I will use that the next time I update the odds. Also, yes Tolkien is the best in the fantasy genre but his books are very hard to read. The way the were written was the same as reading old English writings from the medieval ages hehehe.

Have you heard that Amazon will make a Lord of the Rings show?

Thanks for the feedback, and do update here if you find any Bitcoin props for GoT. I'm OK with Nitro, I have an account there but I'm trying to consolidate all my prop betting onto one sportsbook.

Haha, yes, I suppose Tolkien can be difficult to begin, I actually had a very difficult time reading it for the first time, but I thoroughly enjoyed it on my latter readings. In between I read quite a bit of fantasy in my teens... Dragonlance writers, Raymond Feist, of course, RR Martin and Stephen King also have writing that's very accessible (and they both wrote a lot of tv scripts for Twilight Zone type sci-fi, so due recognition there).

I actually thought Dragonlance would get its TV series, but maybe the fanbase is too old now. Hope Amazon does more justice to Tolkien. The Tolkien estate probably learnt its lesson from the past. I think material is always dumbed down for audiences but GoT proved that audiences are actually a lot more intelligent than previously thought.
15743  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tennis League All Thread on: July 16, 2018, 07:44:49 AM
Novak Djokovic looks to be back at 100% winning his 4th Wimbledon title and 13th Grand Slam title overall. He deserved this win as he has been fighting to get fit for a long time now and its good to see him back up there with the greats. Djokovic in my opinion is the one who can overtake Federer with the most Grand Slam titles record as he is great on all surfaces and still has many years in him if he can remain healthy. The upcoming US open is going to be interesting to see who will start favourite.


Oh for sure, he's back. Had my doubts, and he probably had his too. But good wins under his belt, taking care of Nadal along the way, good route to the final. I think he deserves this.

All that said though, I can't see him overtaking Fedex. He's actually only got 5 years over Federer, and to achieve the Swiss's levels of fitness at his age is already a mean feat. Nadal's still got a better chance, and has met Fedex so often in finals.
15744  Bitcoin / Press / [2018-07-16] Bitcoin Activists Tour Argentina in La Bitcoineta "Bitmobile" on: July 16, 2018, 07:34:35 AM
A group of individuals based in Argentina have taken it upon themselves to liberate with and educate the population of their country on Bitcoin, with the hopes of aiding sustainable economic growth via the possibilities of Bitcoin and the ensuing fintech sector.

The group has managed to create a fun, unique way of spreading the message, traveling in a veritable “Bitmobile”. Pictured below is La Bitcoineta, their stylized Bitcoin education van that has taken them across the cities and towns of Argentina. The name is a play on the words “Bitcoin” and “furgoneta“, the latter the Spanish word for van.

They described their objective to Bitcoin News as an ”initiative to generate bridges between those who are developing the technologies that will change the world and the different productive, social, cultural, and economic ecosystems”.

To read more: https://bitcoinnews.com/la-bitcoineta-argentine-non-profit-tackles-lack-of-knowledge-in-local-communities-push-for-crypto-driven-change/
15745  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Game of Thrones - Who will rule? Odds and betting discussion [Odds updated!] on: July 15, 2018, 06:01:08 PM
@BitcoinNewbie15. Have you learned nothing hehehe. George R.R. Martin is known to change the story when the fans have already gotten accustomed to one suggestion of what might happen.

I reckon it might be an unhappy ending. The Night King must rule because a long winter is required to destroy the old realm and give way to the new.

Oh BitcoinNewbie, you know nothing;)

I was actually turned off from the first season but glad I binged like some users all the way through 4 seasons. I have my bias in "fantasy" genre, and I won't start bringing in the "book better than movie" argument but I think all credit due to GoT for taking the time to give a fantasy story the storytelling it deserves (I still think Tolkien universe is potentially more riveting and "epic" but that's something else).

I reckon the same as bbc: unhappy ending, a clean slate, with all former friends and foes killed off or sequestered, including Night King.

All will be destroyed with some great sacrifice, and then a new era to begin with the Throne made obsolete.

BitcoinRush takes odds from Pinnacle (thanks Sy for that tip) and that's my favourite bookie, so if they serve up GoT, I'm going to have some Bitcoin on it.
15746  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcointalk's FIFA World Cup Pool Discussion Thread on: July 15, 2018, 05:53:48 PM
so world cup already ended , grats for the winners and hope the other guys were able to profit by betting on this world cup
I enjoyed this competition ( at least in group stages  Grin ) and enjoyed reading most of what you guys write about your analysis 
hope to have another competition like this in the future , I'm not into EPL so probably won't join it

Aww, come on Sy! I'll share half your stake to enter EPL (if I'm allowed to do that!) cause I suspect we'd gain a lot from your participation. Very enjoyable pool everyone. Thank you to hilarious for organising. I finished 13th (actually really similar to the last EPL pool I think I also finished 13th haha). I see I'm 18th in the bracket, backed all the underdogs, but the wrong ones!

Well done to Trofo, I'm not exactly sure who's finished 2nd and 3rd, too lazy to count the bracket. You led so far up and also topped brackets, so you did really well.

Talking about ugly football, France is the most perfect example. Croatia did all the game in the first half and they got knocked by an own goal and a very doubtful penalty. It looked to me like the referee clearly was in favor of France, anyway the winner cannot be judged they say. I feel very sorry for Croatia.

I got what I asked for. A goal fest. I also think the penalty call was a hard one, I'd never have given it no matter who I supported. But it was justified in any case. Poor Lovren must be heartbroken for losing 2 finals in 2 months p
15747  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2018-07-14] Greek Court Agrees to Extradite Alleged Bitcoin Fraudster BTC-e on: July 15, 2018, 04:13:57 PM
That's not quite the end yet. There's been a series of court extraditions already but apparently, everything still rests with the Chief Justice (Supreme Court). Why exactly he's been procrastinating on the decision is anyone's guess. Greece has a lot of debts to pay and whichever country helps them the most might get the leaning decision.

USA ordered to arrest him in Greece and to extradite it then a Greek court blocked this decision. Russian wants him too then France won at the end.
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thousands using cyber attacks via his bitcoin platform. French police claim Vinnik laundered 133 million euros worth $155 million using 20,643 bitcoins.
And the funny part is this :
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Vinnik is reported to have acknowledged his guilt in Russia and was prepared to cooperate with investigators there. Vinnik and his lawyers believe he should be tried in Russia.
Weird...

Yeah, the lawyers of course have worked out a deal with the Russian government. Vinnik faces far less severe charges there, which he will serve easily enough, in very comfortable circumstances, compared to what the US law will have waiting for him. The US want to hang him out to dry, but there's a huge backstory to this. Scapegoat's clearly Vinnik and he seems prepared to take the fall for everything. But there's more to this story than will ever surface.
15748  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Exchange Listing Fees on: July 15, 2018, 10:41:41 AM
Even on a mid-tier exchange like HitBTC, they charged 500+ ETH, and that didn't go through: https://medium.com/karmared/hitbtc-is-having-karma-issues-c85eb23da4fe

Lol serves them right! By the way I found this on reddit. This is what they charged back in decemeber 2017, when bitcoin is priced at 15K-17 US Dollars:
https://imgur.com/a/Qd9WQV0. Even the blog and twitter post aren't free

Cryptopia meanwhile charges 5000000 DOT - currently $0.013297 USD = $66K+ (in total)
Further info: https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Paytopia

Yeah. Searched long and hard for that list I was talking about... can't recall if it was in Discussion or Service, either way seems to have been eaten up by the ether.

I honestly wonder now if there's any coin that still gets listed the "traditional" way... because it's good and the service thinks they would like to serve the community further. I think now casinos are the only ones that list without a fee.

I know HitBTC was shite, but Cryptopia? The way they've just gone under, repeatedly showing their ineptitude, and yet still being able to command that kind of fee?

Really need to get them DEXs moving. Maybe in five years easy Bitcoin cross chain with the major players.

I'm in the wrong business.
15749  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tennis League All Thread on: July 15, 2018, 10:16:02 AM
Just took a sniff at the odds but @1.12 for Djoko to win is too small, and not worth the straight sets bet either. He's still my favourite too and he should win but I wonder if a punt on Andersen @4-ish is worth it. I don't think anyone can recover from 6-hour matches in 2 days, so that's somewhat against him but then Djoko's had his own long game plus he played 2 days in a row.

Hard call, and World Cup final's only 2 hours away from Wimbledon final. Choices, choices!
15750  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcointalk's FIFA World Cup Pool Discussion Thread on: July 15, 2018, 10:03:45 AM
Predictor -

Hoping I can hold on to 2nd place, I still have my joker to play. Trofo is too far ahead now & I don’t think I or anybody else will catch him.

Rooting for you buddy, but I'm happy to see both of you in Top 2, and top 10 still having everything to play for! Trofo's got to have Croatia to win (right Trofi? heh) so I guess any of the top 5 backing France has everything to play for.

I still have my France to win World Cup bet active @9.14: https://www.bitcoinrush.io/sportsbook/ShareBet?id=j%2Fv00nMx77xuhGGEyVV%2FRfLHOUSVR92TzZTmnZACJ78%3D

And have a hedge on Croatia to win @4.95: https://www.bitcoinrush.io/sportsbook/ShareBet?id=NS1ChhRp66v9ocAtNqSTRPvm0yhyUFLlRv6WUt3O2Ug%3D

But if the game goes to penalties and Croatia wins, I lose both. Such is life!
15751  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Exchange Listing Fees on: July 14, 2018, 07:18:31 PM
I couldn't find it but a couple of weeks ago someone posted the BTC fees for listing on major sites. We know for sure that Coinbase charges in the millions, if we believe token owners who've publicly said so. Vitalik also recently decried these crazy fees. I recall end of last year Bittrex was charging for months... this guy says Coinpayments does the same: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4593690.0 though that's not exactly an exchange.

Even on a mid-tier exchange like HitBTC, they charged 500+ ETH, and that didn't go through: https://medium.com/karmared/hitbtc-is-having-karma-issues-c85eb23da4fe

Small wonder everything's falling apart
15752  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tennis League All Thread on: July 14, 2018, 05:45:26 PM

I'm probably going to miss the rest of the match... I can never find a stream when they have to resume for tennis, so it's been a weird tourney for me so far, hardly ever see a match ending!

You can try following page http://www.sportcategory.com/c-4.html. That is direct link for all tennis matches today. Or if you are interested in other sports you can go to their main page http://www.sportcategory.com/c-4.html. They have the stream for every camera covered tennis match on any tournament Smiley

If you are on android device try Mobdro application. You have to google it because it isn't part of Google Play store. They have a shitload of TV programs from all over the world. This match you have on Sport Club for sure. The one in the application has Serbian Audio stream but you can probably find some other program which has this match and English stream.


Yesterday's part of the Djoko-Nadal match was simply outstanding I am hoping for more of the same today. I have a bet of over 39,5 games from yesterday and it should pass without much stress hopefully.

I watched Kerber in few matches on this tournament and she was great. I am thinking about some kontra handicap or that she takes one set. But  considering there is Serena on the other side of net maybe it would be better to pass this one.

Edit: I actually played Serena to win 2:0 in the sets but for minimal stake. As you can see I am really torn about this one and I just played it to make it more interesting to watch. I also took Nadal to win at 3.5 just because the odds.

Thank you very much for this Trofo! I missed the game anyway, should have checked this thread earlier. Yet another source to add to my small curated list of streams to watch haha. I don't mind paying to be honest, but the TV's always hogged anyway by the kids so I end up watching on laptop, always feel streaming on devices aren't worth paying for.

My main source is always BeIn - the only drawback is language but I'm so used to not hearing English commentary these days I'll give yours a try when EPL season comes up.

Won my Djoko parlay but lost the Serena final. Maybe she really is past her prime now.
15753  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin banned in Sri Lanka on: July 14, 2018, 05:39:58 PM
I generally thought the Sri Lankan government would try to do anything opposite of what its Indian neighbours do, but I suppose their central banks in South Asia are more aligned. Bangladesh and Pakistan suggest the same and even in Maldives I'm hearing Bitcoin is having a bit of a growing discussion leaning towards conservative approaches.

The good thing for me here is that everyone will start learning to do p2p, learning how to use Bitcoin on their own. That can't be bad, right?
15754  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcointalk's FIFA World Cup Pool Discussion Thread on: July 14, 2018, 04:02:19 PM
Now it's 2-0 Belgium. Please no last minute goal I have Belgium to win 2-0 for ~300 pts.

Edit : I still have a small chance for 5th place never lose hope.  Cheesy

Looks like you got your wish! Joker on it too, I hope? I used my Joker on a goal fest result, 0 points. And couldn't even get anything from the bonus. That definitely puts me out of reach no matter the other outcomes since Max I could get tomorrow is 400++ even with 60 from bonus.

@lfc I'm probably going to take a sidebet for higher placed finish with tokeweed. Liverpool will always be my choice, see if he wants to stick with his Man Utd. Bookies like the Red Devils.
15755  Economy / Speculation / Re: For all those frustrated by the price on: July 14, 2018, 02:47:20 PM
That's the joke. Not necessarily for McDonalds, but for minimum wage.

Funny how that only makes sense in developed countries, but yeah I always get the joke. You could actually earn a lot more in my country working fast food than in say... construction. Think it's the other way round halfway across the world.

All distracting from the point that if you bought Bitcoin at ATH, you've only lost 65% of its value. That loss is only realised if you sold, too. But yeah, as long as people buy into that false impression, I'm happy to be on a smaller bandwagon of Bitcoin users.
15756  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcointalk's FIFA World Cup Pool Discussion Thread on: July 14, 2018, 12:50:00 PM
Bonus challenges open in about 15 mins guys! I don't have any bets for today. Just want to sit back and watch the goals flow (please flow, I'm bored). Got my Joker for a 5 goal spree, but maybe will tone it down to 4 goals. They better deliver, so I can break into top 3 haha.

Good luck to everyone. tokeweed, I'll take you on sidebets for EPL, don't worry. I've to back LFC here cause France are itching to right their last Final fiasco.
15757  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [13-07-2018] Scammers to Leak Users Masturbation Vids Demands Bitcoin Ransom on: July 14, 2018, 10:08:17 AM
Pah. Anyone sent a vid of me tugging away and grunting would be so appalled they'd delete it before they got hot under the collar. I'd just ask for royalties instead if goes public, and the T shirt rights.

Couldn't have said it better. Either that or I become a victim and I publish a Bitcoin address to get a neverending stream of donations from sympathisers, fans, crazy people. What's Cornell doing wasting its time on this haha.

People should just try sending that Bitcoin ransom, track down the "hacker" when they sell/liquidate. No quicker way these days to get your wallet blacklisted. Getting old, and exchanges are all on the lookout.
15758  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tennis League All Thread on: July 14, 2018, 08:23:27 AM
WOW! What a match by Đoković and Nadal! Did you see that level of playing, especially at the end of tie break? Just wow! This is best that tennis can offer right now, and I so missed it!
Also, now is official, Novak is back!  Cool

Can't wait tomorrow for resume of the match!

I'm probably going to miss the rest of the match... I can never find a stream when they have to resume for tennis, so it's been a weird tourney for me so far, hardly ever see a match ending!

And that epic Andersen match, incredible. I couldn't watch anything but the first few minutes, and I was shocked to come and check later and it was still going on. Tell you what, there's no disappointment in Wimbledon semifinals. It's going to be a crazy final, whoever meets Anderson. Just hope they've still got some petrol left in their tanks. My Djoko bet looks all right. Nadal typically won back a set after losing one.

One bet for me today. Serena Williams of course. Not that great winnings, but there's no way she'll lose unless some injury forces her to retire but she'll do it in under 2 hours.
15759  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BTC parabolic bull run will not happen everytime on: July 13, 2018, 07:54:57 PM
The hopeful speculator inside me, and inside all of us, hold history to account. Every time this "parabolic bull run" happened, people advised caution and pragmatism, saying that the best had already come and gone, yet Bitcoin proved them to be wrong a year, two years later. But it's helpful to have that same pragmatism now. We've to concede that the 20k ATH was not quite the same bull run we'd witnessed before, or we'd read about before. It's going to take so much more to bring it back to even that same ATH, and grow from there.

Not that it won't happen. Just that it's unlikely, at least not for the foreseeable future. The math is there, yes, but the reality that needs to be in place for those numbers to happen? We're still groping in the dark for that.
15760  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: KYC and AML Compliance can help cryptocurrencies to earn legitimacy on: July 13, 2018, 06:36:06 PM
I suppose that's the positive aspect, but I find that this is maybe the point of view of the suits and ties. Bitcoin doesn't really (to me) need to earn the legitimisation of the state. It's already recognised by us who use it. Those states and central entities who don't recognise it do so at their own loss. I can see perfect sense and even benefits for regulations... Mt Gox made a lot of people lose money, and Japan thought that was the wake up call for them, and power to them if Bitcoin becomes normalised and is just another currency for them. But if regulations and KYC means that the way we're used to using Bitcoin comes under threat? I don't know how I feel about this.
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