goes live when ?
on block 1 or ..fuck off 

Your reply says what now ?
Contradict yourself much ? hahahha

This sounds like one hell of a fucking mess.
And i sure as hell do not trust any coin in history that had a "Community take over"
..such as Monero.

Bitcoin Killer my fucking ass 

This was when they were caught doing it.
Apparently they have been doing this all along so the number is FAR higher !

..always with no warning or public excuses.

And yet your account here is 1 month old ? 


WOW another ultra super noob telling us all how it is 

and yet more of them.. such as user "ppc.pt"

I find it odd there is an army of noob accounts quick to run here and say this is "FUD" 

Anyway..
This will get moved even though mod's here are a bit lenient..
There is a service discussion section guys.
If you looked there you may find 100 topics like this..

Sometimes i report topics for being in the wrong section but i think some deserve a bit of exposure.
At least at first..
This will almost for sure get moved out of ALT main though guys.

And i have not used Polo in a year or two so i have no idea what is going on.
Good luck.. don't use them as a bank

Nerds and all that star trek stuff  

But seriously guys look at the Cryptsy saga then think of Gox and countless other exchanges.
What is it exactly that separates them ?
Why would you think you are safer at one vs another ?
Lemme guess Because Mark or Phil or Vern or who the fuck ever *seems* like a "nicer" guy ?

What happens when large traditional companies start to sink ?
History has shown us that when it gets tight they rape the living shit out of everyone and everything
to milk the gravy-train a little longer.. then they run off.

All you guys all do is say well.. uhhh err uhh well.. I need to trade.. and uhhh well uhh there isn't a better (decentralized) alternative yet.
Well..
There ya go then.. you're gonna get burned.

Me i see the warning signs and listen.
Mid 2013 Gox's reputation was horrendous beyond belief.
So fucking bad i knew i'd never even click on the damn site let alone register there.
Meanwhile.. Cheerleaders were defending them for ages ..all the way up until they closed.
(anyone who complained was called a liar etc)

And the same thing happens with EVERY exchange by dipshit brat fanboy / cheerleaders online.

I keep hearing about guys saying they know the risks of trading altcoins..
Well you know too that the exchanges are risky too not just the coins themselves.
It's a risk you guys take deliberately.. then later cry and play dumb and want sympathy.

MCXnow warning signs ? BTER ? Mintpal ? GOX ? Cryptsy ? Poloniex ? Bittrex ?
Random places that pop up adding every shitcoin they can ? ..for ROI'z ?

When do you smarten up and get some credibility people ?

A Cryptsy employee told you they handed over your info to the Fed's.
Did you all care ? of course not.. you keep sending all these exchanges your picture ID etc.
AND USING THEM STILL !

Coinbase ratted out the owner of KickassTorrents and that was the final straw for me..
It insured that i would never go there.. never have even once !
Care ? Fuck no !
You all putter your way in fer teh ROI'z and act dumb.

What will you do if one of these exchanges that runs compliant are forced to block user access ?
It's simple guys if they take your ID for verification then they are govt compliant.
Which means they will in fact comply with legal requests..
So..
If they are told to shut down etc they will !
And that could happen randomly any time by any of these places.

It's hard to have sympathy for a scene full of greedy idiots.
Led by Rich people.. whales.. corporations galore making MILLIONS !
..in an unregulated scene.

But hey... whoooooooooooooooooooooo cares.
Did i make $50 trading Ethereum ICO scam coins today at Polo ?
Ohhh Polo closed ?
Well uhhh did i make $50 at Bittrex then ?

You are all intent on playing a stupid game.
Let me know how that works out for ya

If i remember correctly there was a topic in the ALT section where guys were mocking them for the address tracked back to a farm or some shit.

The Polo owner runs it out of his home i think eh.

And like EVERYONE in crypto they run online services to hide all their details.

Did someone mention FUD ?

Well let me start off by saying i don't like Star Trek..

2nd of all pretty much all these exchanges have been setup and operated in the same manner.
So i hate to break it to you all but they are all equally ripe for a GOX'ing at anytime.
How so ?

Since you all collectively gave away your power .. you will never get it back.
It was up to all of you to demand transparency and accountability and input into how it all runs.
Instead you all let these exchanges run in secrecy with no accountability at all.
That's on you greedy idiots.

Me ?
I left Cryptsy after lambasting them here on the forum yelling at them over a delay here or there and a loss of a few cents (simply out of the principle)
I roasted them and screamed it's OUR FUCKING COINS ASSHOLES AND DON'T FORGET IT !
I bitched and made a stink over less than a dollar.
I got perma-banned from chat.
I stuck up for our ideals and lived the shit talk you like to spew (but not act on)
I seen what they were doing and left.
I backed my god damn fucking mouth up while you were all sniffing at Doge ARB ROI'z near the end.

Don't forget how many of these idiots knew better but still traded there until they closed.
NOW ..they want sympathy ?

Grow a pair little profiteer assholes.

You let them GOX you..
You let MintPal fuck you..
You let BTER bend you over..
You let MCXNOW fuck you around then come back as RAWX or some shit.
You let Cryptsy fuck you around no matter how blatant they were.
Then... (the list goes on & on)

And now you retards think Polo and Bittrex etc are "different" ?

LOL gimme break idiots ahhahahhahahhahahha  

Seriously grow the fuck up morons.
And clue in..
If your not holding their feet to the fire.. they will eventually fuck you raw in the ass.
Tick tick tick..

Experience is what you need.
Start small.. gradually grow your risked money in time with your skill.
Know when to hold them and when to fold them  

There was times i planned on flipping a coin short term and missed my chance.
So i had to decide.. dump now for a loss or maybe break even ?
or ? ..wait ?

That is often going to be the key.. waiting !
But for how long ? (time is money)

Many times i simply kicked back and waited knowing the coin would go back up.
And i knew it would not be all that long before it happened either.
So many times i seen guys on chat bitching about the price going down and i'd just laugh to myself quietly knowing i will have my profit while the noobs panic dumped.

But on some occasions i had to take my loss.  
For example with obscure nearly dead shitcoins you may only have 1 or 2 chances in a year to sell.
Miss it and your fucked.. and the more you wait the more of an eventual loss you will end up taking.

KNOW WHEN TO TAKE A LOSS !

You just can't teach this stuff.
Beware FOMO and emotions..
Be cautious and patient and ease into it all.

I was lucky to have done trading the way i did.
Which was i invested nothing.
So my early learning experiences where i lost money cost me nothing and were easy to rebound from.
I started with 0 cents.
I started using an old Core 2 Duo CPU mining and an old Nvidia card mining..
Then i took that "dust" to exchanges and started flipping for profits.
I still have some notes of my portfolio from years ago saved.. from Cryptsy.
It took me forever just to get one Litecoin.

I am GLAD i did not walk in with a big wad of cash trading.
I walked in with dust.. and learned over time.

Not much to say really.
Patience & Experience is what you need.. and don't be trusting of anyone or anything.

PS:
Exchanges are --> not <-- BANKS
Be careful storing money on them !

Being a quality project means little.
It's about the reality of the situation..
What *WILL* happen ? Not dreams & fantasies.

There has to be an ever increasing sustained user base spending money.

That is the core issue at work here guys.
Why doesn't mean much.. it's about what *IS*.

The reality is unless we see an increasing level of money pour into a project etc it will stall.
When that happens the dev's now a days prop it up.
Ethereum was doing that the whole time since the early super hype / pump campaign.
It's been one of the most heavily manipulated coins we ever seen.

I seen Zack who was working with Jagropolite admitting publicly to do that too.
He said on Cryptsy chat he was not going to let the coin fall..
The more people dumped the more he sat there putting up walls as people dumped into them.
Eventually he was overwhelmed of course.. i told him it was stupid.

So..
Don't sit there assholes and pretend like dev teams are not doing this.
They are doing it and it's now standard practice.
You are all playing a rigged and heavily manipulated little profit game guys.

All you need to do is watch the crowd..
Once you see a market stall only two things will happen ..the mystery whale will jump in and pour in cash.
Or it will slump down losing value.

Then with all these coins sky rocketing up in value we can safely assume it has to come back down.
Why ?
Natural growth.. AKA: adoption.

The prices shoot up because of one type of user.. the PROFITEER.
If average folks like my grand parents were a part of the reason for all these ALT's exploding up in price i'd say ok we have a stable price to work with.
But the reality is we see more noobs and whales pumping coins.
..simply for profit.

Since day one i have been preaching to noobs to watch your ass.
Don't be a dreamer.. low hanging-crypto fruit.

I don't want to see noobs take losses.. but they will.
Many will because of the bullshit coin floggers post here all the time too.
There is no shortage of bullshit predictions that get posted here (all engineered to get your money basically)

Do what ever the hell you all want.. just be careful guys.

..greater-fool game is the correct term for it i guess Dino
You get what i am saying LOL

But i don't think many of these guys get it.
They think it's all up up up.. and nothing but a bright future.

The first guys i seen to pump in the scene were Fontas and Headless etc.
I told headless way back if he killed his cow the gravy train would dry up..
He did !

In other words pumpers don't *usually pump with out dumping again at some point.
Although i think the idea of "pumping" a coin has now turned into a marketing thing almost.
Coin teams now want to have their coins pump and hopefully RETAIN THE VALUE LATER
where as way back pumpers didn't care if they left the coin for dead..
But..
Let's not be fools.. anyone pumping is going to be taking profits.
No one is going to simply pour money into some project with out hoping to realize a return on it *eventually.

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EDIT:

For example Butters from Ethereum infamy took a million dollar dump (if not more)
And where did that million dollars come from ? Thin air ? hahahha 

..spewin' a whole lot of bullshit i see guys.

Bottom Line:
- There has to be mass dumping.
- Most will be losers.
- Only one way out = dump before the next guy.

I find it forever amusing how all 10 of 10 guys in a room think they are smart and will be the "winner" getting profit.
When it's a mathematical impossibility.

In the ALT scene every trader think he's the smart one..
It doesn't matter what you think though.
It's math.. it's the way of life.

What happens when you go to a casino and pick any game and keep playing ?
You lose ALL your money.

So the only way to prevent this eventual scenario is to dump before the other guy.
Then the domino effect kicks in and there you have it 70% losers and a few break even
and even fewer come away with large profits.

Not sure how the hell you guys can ramble on not grasping this deadly simple concept.
It is the way it is here and how it always will be.
All the talking shit on a forum won't prevent your wallet from getting any lighter  

..your gambling on worthless unregulated shitcoins in a rigged market scene guys.
You'd have better odd's at any regulated and accountable Casino then you would "playing Crypto"
Hell you would have the same or better odd's buying a regulated and accountable lottery ticket.

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EDIT:

@iram3130
I agree to an extent (i get what you are saying)
But.. Time is money.
If you bought coins and you missed the chance to dump for profit and it takes another year or two for another chance to even break even then your still taking a loss.
Because your money invested is worth money.
Time = money.
..get what i am driving at ?

Do you all think these two cases are equal ?

- User #1 gets profit in 10 days for $100.
- User #2 gets profit in 100 days for $100.

..meanwhile during that time with your money "tied up"
you could have put the money in any bank and pulled in a minimum guaranteed profit.

Sounds about right to me.

Lets not forget the buying of Altcoins was because of the lure of profits.
So follow the chain..
New guy shows up, then he buys BTC (so he can buy ALT's for ROI's)
That causes BTC to soar higher..
When the momentum swings the other way with Altcoins the stampede will dry up.

I seen this in late 2013.
A boom of users flocked here and bought anything not nailed down.
They didn't care what.
But it came crashing down eventually.

The reality is if a group of guys walk into a room with money only a couple will walk out with most of it.

Your grandiose profits guys are the money taken straight out of MANY other users wallets.
Where the hell do you all think these huge profits come from ?
They come from a LOT of guys losing small amounts combing into a larger gain for you !
It's a deadly simple math and.. a mathematical certainty.

I seen a science TV show that show cased a scientific formula for the process.
It resembled boiling water.
It's been pointed out how all of human history has repeated this formula too.
Countries that started over and had all the money divided up equally quickly had the 1% hold all the wealth.
It's the way of life in every aspect and undeniable and unavoidable.
It's pretty much entropy.
It's like trying to stop the universe from expanding (a form of entropy)

Most of you will be losers and that is a fact.
Some will profit.
Some will break even and even fewer will walk away a winner at the Altcoin Casino.

Who's staying at the table ?
All it takes is a blow of the wind and momentum will swing the other way.
Then the hoards will super dump in pure panic.
And all this soaring Altcoins action can not be sustained.

There will be dumping.

I urged him to work it out with theymos and he was defiant.
He thinks the site should change for him.
He went on a tangent about how this forum is a bad system.
That is fine & dandy but it is in fact the system he signed up for and clicked agree on
..when he signed up all those accounts he has made.

I got a 30 day ban before and made 0 effort to sneak back in.
He on the other hand thinks he is entitled to just make a new account.
He gets banned for shit posting then blames "posting Ethereum FUD"
Then he gets banned for it again and again and then says he's "entitled".
Because the forums shouldn't work that way.

I voted for him to stay when he created his grand farewell topic way back.
Once again i urged him to stay and work it out (even though he last had me on ignore)
I appreciate his input etc but he does have to follow the rules we all signed up here with.

This illustrates what i eluded to here on this topic lots already.
He clearly has "issues" and this affects that probability of him creating the Bitcoin Killer.
Unlikely but by all means prove me wrong if you desire Shelby.
I am not against you.. actually i am rooting for you.

Best of luck with your future endeavors Shelby.
I also would not take staff's position here against you personally.. they think they are doing their job.

You can't.. the receiver handling the lawsuit has it only. (i am 99% sure)
But..
It's possible they had got other bits of info etc.
So it might be a good idea to try and contact the receivers etc and file a claim.
It's not ONLY people who got the mail that are qualified.. if you lost money then try maybe.

He also said "hackers" stole all the Bitcoins..
Then shortly after that had his lawyer announce SURPRISE !!!!!!
Hooray he found all the coins (around 250k BTC or some shit) on a USB drive
..lost in his couch cushion at home.

nuff said ?
You believe anything out of that fat fucking fraud's mouth ?

Oh and..
I loved seeing the pic i photoshop'd on this topic earlier.
It was a controversial pic that got me a lot of whining that it offended some guys wife.
I hope the sensitive cow doesn't turn a TV on anytime soon (she'd see worse on Family Guy)

Krapeles and Vern are taking turns bending us over..

And.. and..
I *DID* get the receiver email too.
But my account was created in 2013 about 1 month roughly after they opened.
Although i left and never went back in early'ish 2014. <-- rough guess.
They still have my 13 cents worth of Cryptsy Points  

If they can put them out then can they take them away too ?
AKA: Federal Reserve style "Quantitative Easing"

Ripple incorporated is acting like a federal reserve company.
With an "open source" "currency" on shitcoin "exchanges"  

Did we do this to launch corporate company ICO / premined shitcoins for profits on Poloniex ?

Ripple = takes a fat stinky dump on the ideology of crypto.
Ripple needs to die with fire !

If you look at how *major* 1st world banks operate and what they are capable of with transfers it boggles the mind why any would bother with Ripple bullshit.. or even Bitcoin itself.

They already have a plethora of options for sending money etc.
Why in gods name would they need Ripple bullshit ?

It's simple they don't.
There are no respectable 1st world major banks using it.
All we hear is some weird ass sketchy bullshit about a bank in Nigeria or Dubai interested in it etc.

I will blow dry the entire Ripple dev team when The Royal Bank of Canada or any other schedule 1 or even schedule 2 bank in Canada ever adopts and uses Ripple for it's intended purpose on a permanent professional basis.

Yup.. i am so confident about this that i will offer "gummers" to the Ripple team.  
I will drain those cocks dry !
I'll finish those boys off to completion.. toothless crack whore style  

In the meantime i might yet *AGAIN* head over to LocalBitcoins.com
And then sell some Bitcoin for a bank transfer via direct bank deposit or Western Union or..
Interac eTransfer.
Remember guys when i posted the fee's chart for Interac ?
Yup it's cheaper than Bitcoin..

Explain to me why a bank would adopt a system of accountability when they do not want any.
Why would they need a ledger system of sorts when they have been using one they already made for decades ?

It's real simple.. does Ripple solve an EXISTING PROBLEM WITH BANKS ?

NO.

..they do not.

Not sure if i got this one but any email account i use in crypto gets pounded hard 24/7.
I just checked and have misc 85 attempts.

They never get looked at and go to junk then get auto deleted.
I check the account i use here on the forum no more than 1 time per year. 
Idiots can send all the shit they want i couldn't care less.

I also have gotten some far less frequently from the account i used on Cryptsy.
I like to use a specific account for certain sites.. so you can see where the bullshit originates from.
Like the name i registered at Cryptsy in 2013..
It was funny how a guy showed up on the Cryptsy lawsuit topic trolling me with it.
Then how Mullick figured it was a coincidence then vanished into hiding permanently.

Pools are bad for this shit too.

Use a bugmenot account guys LOL

You either take their word for it or don't.
Do you think they would deliberately lock out users to screw with markets ?
Such as turning it off and claiming their was a DDOS ?
I suspected Cryptsy of pulling shit like that and i have seen exchanges do it in fact.
Is Polo ?
I can't be sure..

I lean a little to them being over loaded lately though.
And trust me i have not been much of a fan of the Exchange either.
I am not afraid to criticize them 

But i took a trip over there the other day and i was shocked at how busy it's become now a days.
So the idea they got DDOS'd is not all that far fetched.
And it does happen too.

They also had MOD's on chat dealing with non stop support issues.
So.. i suspect they are genuinely VERY busy.

My reply was a cliche.. i have been accused of that a million times before.
You say something good or bad here.. it's OBVIOUSLY because you're buying / selling.  

I really don't see ANY redeeming value in Ripple shit.
I can not fathom why anyone would willingly SUPPORT it.

Few do..

*Most* say what you said Lion.. they are buying <who gives a fuck> coin for ROI'z.
EVEN ..if it's a coin you should NOT be supporting.

And this my profiteer kidiot friends is what Crypto is about.
Placing wagers on, well.. who fucking cares.
As long as it pays out.

And that piss poor mentality has taken something with promise and destroyed it.
When i came here and there was a small handful of coins this shit was considered a dirty secret.
An embarrassment and a joke.
Now ? Good god.. what a clown shit show of fucking retard profiteer faggotry.

You are fools and won't learn.
And because of this there is one single outcome.
I get to kick back and see it all play out precisely as i predicted each and every step of the way.

You profiteers here sold out.
You forked over your support investment for peanuts.. chump change.
Sad.. because you could have been rich beyond belief.
But your stupid.

Yup.. which is why none of these guys commented after you i think.

I went to Polo yesterday to see how it was going and i was surprised to see the chat box busy.
It was as busy as when the 2013 crowd rolled in (early 2014'ish i think) and were on it.
I said something and it was almost scrolled right off the page instantly.
It was not like that for a long time though.

I also don't think 90% of the users on Polo knew who i was either.
Not that i blame them much.. i had not been over there for a year or two roughly.

It's irritating seeing such broken English in crypto too.
They say "exchanger" all the time which agitates the shit out of me  
Lots of noobs i guess.. but if they don't know about history then they are doomed to repeat it.

oh and.. https://twitter.com/cryptsy?lang=en