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1581  Economy / Speculation / Re: SecondMarket Bitcoin Investment Trust Observer on: May 20, 2015, 01:24:25 AM
Yeah, we're not exactly seeing a major rush by wall street or pensioners to get in on coins right now. Guess we're gonna need that license to get this brokers and hedge funds buying on a much larger scale.

Wall St are not going to get in on BTC paying 2-2.5% annual fees. Ain't gonna happen. The might try and sell it to pensioners and take their cut on top. But buying these vehicles outright other than just to trade and provide liquidity to clients is not going to happen. They are not fools. More than likely they will start their own ETF's, not buy into another one. That way they can leverage their brand. Perhaps that is why the Winkel's EFT is ont getting cleared  Wink

Wall St is getting in at ground level in second round funding of start-ups with an eye to IPO's - that is where they will make their killing, if they can create a gold rush of IPO's in which they have a stake, hype it, pump it, flog it.


For one, GBTC is a pink sheet... the penny shares. Pensioners are the last people you would see jumping into penny stocks (hopefully). Too small for more than a couple of hedge funds to want to dabble in. It still has a 20% premium compared to its underlying, worse than a bitcoin atm. I think the interest on these paper bitcoins is from bitcoiners, ones that want the simplicity of holding them in traditional brokerage accounts.

Joe Blow public looks at a chart, sees an 80% decline after 18 months. The main things they've read are mtgox poofing with $400 mil, and silk road, making them rightfully a little nervous and/or uninterested. 

The big nasdaq, not nordic, is where you might see some real volume in some shares/notes. I've not been overly encouraged by the KnC ETN launch's volume, but then again, it's not a huge market.

At least the exchanges, NYSE with their coinbase investment and now ticker, nasdaq with the private markets settlement pilot, are signaling and showing the SEC they are interested. There is a chance that COIN will launch after bitlicense, then gemini, but there's a lot of ifs there.

Importantly, these tunnels into mainstream investment channels are being built before the next bull run. A bull run that lately appears like it may not happen until the halving, from a lower starting point, if at all.
1582  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 18, 2015, 07:48:02 PM
Dumps that end higher than they started. Something very weird about this flat market.
1583  Economy / Speculation / Re: He saw the sign, and it opened up his eyes he saw the sign. on: May 18, 2015, 03:59:32 AM
cant be I see a sell wall constantly flashing on bitfinex. I think the Illuminati are sending us a secret message.

Life is demanding without understanding.

google search...

hilarity ensues
You didn't know ace of bass?
My hopes of it being attributable to something else were dashed on the rocks.

That made me laugh.
1584  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Gavincoin is old news. Alts rally because people see through the bullshit. on: May 18, 2015, 03:45:34 AM

On the "bitcoin is a shitcoin" I might even agree with you in some regards, but still, altcoins are pump&dumps.

It's very improbable that BTC miners will suddenly switch to another altcoin and that's because of liquidity. No shitcoin has enough greater fools as dumping ground for the miners to make it worthwhile.

Bitcoin is a pump and dump ponzi too. We have seen this often enough now. Liquidity is also only an argument for so long. We have seen it in constant decline very long now. Liquidity can come and go within days to/from bitcoin or any altcoin. It's not static. Money goes where opportunity for profit is, so not necessarily bitcoin.

You are altcoin hitler.
1585  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 18, 2015, 03:32:47 AM
I am expecting some dumps in T-30 minutes.

They will be in the range of 80,000 to 100,000BTC.

Thank me later.  Wink

...if only I could tell which gossip to believe... My average buy price is around $300 and I've been hodling/slowly accumulating for a couple of years now.... I read pages and pages of what amounts to "shit" every day, all over the intermanet and have never had the nuts to attempt a single tradle. If you're not just talking your book, I thank you for sharing this tidbit of gold in this sea of faecies.

It's his book. Roll Eyes

Edit: might be yours, too. Wink Roll Eyes Lips sealed

My paltry stash of bitcorns are too few in number to be considered a "book".

I've become all angsty and jaded, maybe. I guess we are all bent one way or the other. I've noticed personally that I stopped listening to anyone above Sr. Member. Nobody that bought in at $23 can possible say anything to reassure me at this point.

All yea who boarded this contraption in the afterglow... if you are ever lucky enough to see a bull market again, your hodling affliction will only become worse.
1586  Economy / Speculation / Re: He saw the sign, and it opened up his eyes he saw the sign. on: May 18, 2015, 02:57:44 AM
cant be I see a sell wall constantly flashing on bitfinex. I think the Illuminati are sending us a secret message.

Life is demanding without understanding.

google search...

hilarity ensues
1587  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 18, 2015, 01:15:57 AM
With the quick rejection of small dumps lately I see two scenarios.

1. Someone quickly buys back 1/3 of their dump to stave off any kind of follow through to lower levels.

2. There is some kind of benevolent whale/group that is content with accumulating at current levels, not wanting to pump the price up, but also not wanting a drop to get momentum.



1588  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 18, 2015, 12:57:07 AM
Mr. Bitcorn...



You know the drill.
1589  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 18, 2015, 12:26:02 AM
It was a joke HI-TEC99.

So, uh, 6 hours and change until the KnC ETN trades? Is there any info, a symbol?
1590  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 18, 2015, 12:09:06 AM
Its quiet. Too quiet Smiley
Where is dev Huh
1591  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 16, 2015, 09:26:24 PM
Not my Angus again??

1592  Economy / Speculation / Re: The long wait is almost over on: May 16, 2015, 07:12:27 AM
I don't get it?  Am I missing out on something the rest of the community knows?  Huh

1593  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: May 16, 2015, 06:06:47 AM
I don't have more time to expend on you. Sorry.

1594  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 16, 2015, 05:15:47 AM
Snip

I get more from trolfi posts than yours? So there's that.
Then by all means keep enjoying being the mistress and broadcasting his tripe x2 for the rest of the onlookers to have to be exposed to. Very responsible of you and a swell contribution to the market. Kiss

You think our banter here has an effect on the market... so cute.
1595  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 16, 2015, 04:39:10 AM
Some have been around here longer than others and this flirtation w/ JS could be relatively new to yall but some of us have seen the circular, exhaustive and at times, ridiculous commentary coming from the guy which is why he's reached ignore status just like the other main troll round these parts. Keep subjecting your time and mentality to this crap and it's hard to feel sorry for ya. Just sayin but the active time wastes around here these days are JS and lambscrotch and her smelly sox that are born on a daily basis at minimum.

I get more from trolfi posts than yours? So there's that.
1596  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 16, 2015, 04:02:32 AM
Sarcasm fail.

Jorge has basically made us his mistress to r/buttcoin these days...  Embarrassed Cry

They truly understand and appreciate him, often treating him like that slightly aspy kid that has great ideas, but presents them cloaked in cringeworthy mannerisms.
1597  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 16, 2015, 03:45:32 AM
Absorbing $800k of mining payments (and real associated costs) per day, flat is good.
1598  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wake up, Bitcoiners ! on: May 16, 2015, 02:10:26 AM
100k coin wallets inbound to chian exchange nao.

1599  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wake up, Bitcoiners ! on: May 16, 2015, 01:48:28 AM
Besides, if you want "accepted everywhere," you want real money - USD Cool

Probably the central tenet of buttcoinism.

Nevar forget cosbycoin.
1600  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 16, 2015, 12:52:38 AM
You've been right for 18 months Fonzie.

Do you ever call a bottom and buy? Is it double digits, single? Or you shorting this mofo down to 0 and network failure?

Nah,  i´m just going to sell my account with that freshly achieved "hero member" status (it suddenly popped up after my last ban ended 1-2 days ago  Angry )and live from that money on my own private island for the rest of my life. No further plans.  Smiley

Sounds legit.  Cool

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