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1581  Economy / Securities / Re: [GLBSE] REBATE official thread on: August 11, 2012, 02:37:28 PM
I am glad to see that the GLSBE staff will step in to stop further investor loss, this makes your service that much better.
1582  Economy / Securities / Re: [GLBSE]BitCoin Mining Investments "Pre-Release Discounts" Insured on: August 11, 2012, 02:04:46 PM
https://glbse.com/ipo/193 Link to IPO posting
1583  Economy / Lending / Re: IOU-BLoC (Business Lines of Credit) [Prequel thread - probing for interest] on: August 11, 2012, 01:29:41 PM
I like this Idea seems like it will be a great service to the community.
1584  Economy / Securities / Re: [GLBSE]BitCoin Mining Investments "Pre-Release Discounts" Insured on: August 10, 2012, 09:11:46 PM
IPO release date 8/12/12 at 1600 GLBSE time!
1585  Economy / Goods / Rockford Fosgate Speakers *NEW* on: August 10, 2012, 08:46:12 PM
I got a set of Rockford Fosgate Prime " These are the High end Models" Full Range set. These speakers are new Only one has been hooked up for 3 minutes at most and I did not like the sound. My stock speakers are better they Are Baverian Auto Wurks. If you Drive a BMW you will know what that is. They fit Great in My Bmw Z3 and 328, I dont know about other cars but Ill take offers!

Model Number R152-s
Throw me a offer and you pay shipping




1586  Economy / Goods / Re: [For Sale] Swiss Army womens watch tag still on it on: August 10, 2012, 08:09:24 PM
I was going to post a Seiko Kinetic up here, but Looks like watches don't sell lol
1587  Economy / Securities / Re: [CPA] Account #16 (BitcoinINV) Bitcoin Mining Investments on: August 10, 2012, 06:57:50 PM
I confirm the Edit of sharegholders to shareholders lol.
1588  Economy / Securities / Re: [CPA] Account #16 (BitcoinINV) Bitcoin Mining Investments on: August 10, 2012, 06:16:25 PM
Hello! Serena here.

CPA is pleased to announce the signing of Account #16 with BitcoinINV (Bitcoin Mining Investments). This contract will be issued publicly and will also be available on the CPA website (shortly) at http://www.tsukino.ca/cpa/customers/account-16/ for your perusal.

Local rules: Please do not post in this thread until BitcoinINV has quoted the contract and this quote has been confirmed by usagi. Thanks!

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CPA Shareholder Protection Agreement
Customer: BitcoinINV <drkowalczewski@mailccc.net>
CPA Agents: usagi (tsukino)
DATE: August 10th, 2012


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A. GLBSE Shareholder Protection Agreement
1. Parties are Daniel Ray Kowalczewski ("BitcoinINV") and his
   business ("the business"), CPA ("CPA") and the GLBSE
   shareholders of the business ("the shareholders").
2. CPA will insure shareholders by paying out on behalf of
   the business should the business become unable or unwilling
   to fufill the terms of it's contract (see section C).
3. CPA will not be liable for losses greater than the value
   of the funds held in trust; all other liabilities are the
   sole responsibility of the business.
4. No party may cancel this contract although any party may
   choose to accelerate their obligation at any time.


B. Payment of Premium
1. The business will contrinute one bitcoin (or more) per week
   to a trust account operated by CPA.
2. The payment address is [13pou6J1pyVTMcjUXEhK4LQL8nwWrvzmhh]
   ("CPA Account #16 (BitcoinINV Trust Account)").
3. The first week of coverage is 2012 Week #34 (August 19th to
   August 25th).


C. Indemnification Procedure
1. If the business breaks the terms of their contract without
   reparation, CPA will pay the value of the trust account to
   the shareholders of the business on behalf of the business.
2. A period of 30 days will be allowed for the business to
   respond and make reparations before paying out on any
   default event.


D. Expiration Clause
1. If there is no default event prior to August 15th, 2013, CPA
   will contact the customer and/or the business and request
   guidance; the options will be:
   1. to extend coverage,
   2. to release the trust account to the business,
   3. to release the trust account to the shareholders
      (as a special dividend).
2. The guidance will be published on the CPA website for a
   period of 30 days before actoin is taken on that guidance.


E. Insurability (This is the "Fine Print")
1. Indemnity
   The insurance company indemnifies, or compensates, the
   shareholders in the case of certain losses only up to the
   lower of the shareholder's interest and the trust amount.
2. Insurable interest
   The shareholders must directly suffer from the loss; the
   sharegholders have a "stake" in the loss or damage to the
   assets insured.
3. Utmost good faith
   The business is bound by a good faith bond of honesty and
   fairness. Material facts must be disclosed.
4. Contribution
   Insurers which have similar obligations to the insured
   contribute prior to any contribution by CPA.
5. Causa proxima, or proximate cause
   The cause of loss (the peril) must be directly related to
   the breaking of the business's contract for financial gain
   at the shareholders' expense.
6. Mitigation - Before, and in case of any loss or casualty,
   the business must attempt to keep the loss to a minimum, as
   if the asset was not insured.


F. DISPUTE RESOLUTION
1. Any controversy or claim arising out of or relating to this
   contract, or the breach of this contract, shall be settled
   by binding internet arbitration at judge.me in accordance
   with the judge.me arbitration agreement. The arbitrator's
   decision shall be final and legally binding and judgment may
   be entered thereon.
2. The business must indemnify (make whole) CPA's incurred
   legal fees if they lose their claim, limited to the amount
   required to be paid by CPA to judge.me.
3. All judge.me fees related to this contract must be paid in
   bitcoins.


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Confirmed
1589  Economy / Securities / Re: [GLBSE]BitCoin Mining Investments "Pre-Release Discounts" on: August 10, 2012, 06:16:00 PM
Hello! Serena here.

CPA is pleased to announce the signing of Account #16 with BitcoinINV (Bitcoin Mining Investments). This contract will be issued publicly and will also be available on the CPA website (shortly) at http://www.tsukino.ca/cpa/customers/account-16/ for your perusal.

Local rules: Please do not post in this thread until BitcoinINV has quoted the contract and this quote has been confirmed by usagi. Thanks!

Code:
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Hash: SHA512

////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

CPA Shareholder Protection Agreement
Customer: BitcoinINV <drkowalczewski@mailccc.net>
CPA Agents: usagi (tsukino)
DATE: August 10th, 2012


////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

A. GLBSE Shareholder Protection Agreement
1. Parties are Daniel Ray Kowalczewski ("BitcoinINV") and his
   business ("the business"), CPA ("CPA") and the GLBSE
   shareholders of the business ("the shareholders").
2. CPA will insure shareholders by paying out on behalf of
   the business should the business become unable or unwilling
   to fufill the terms of it's contract (see section C).
3. CPA will not be liable for losses greater than the value
   of the funds held in trust; all other liabilities are the
   sole responsibility of the business.
4. No party may cancel this contract although any party may
   choose to accelerate their obligation at any time.


B. Payment of Premium
1. The business will contrinute one bitcoin (or more) per week
   to a trust account operated by CPA.
2. The payment address is [13pou6J1pyVTMcjUXEhK4LQL8nwWrvzmhh]
   ("CPA Account #16 (BitcoinINV Trust Account)").
3. The first week of coverage is 2012 Week #34 (August 19th to
   August 25th).


C. Indemnification Procedure
1. If the business breaks the terms of their contract without
   reparation, CPA will pay the value of the trust account to
   the shareholders of the business on behalf of the business.
2. A period of 30 days will be allowed for the business to
   respond and make reparations before paying out on any
   default event.


D. Expiration Clause
1. If there is no default event prior to August 15th, 2013, CPA
   will contact the customer and/or the business and request
   guidance; the options will be:
   1. to extend coverage,
   2. to release the trust account to the business,
   3. to release the trust account to the shareholders
      (as a special dividend).
2. The guidance will be published on the CPA website for a
   period of 30 days before actoin is taken on that guidance.


E. Insurability (This is the "Fine Print")
1. Indemnity
   The insurance company indemnifies, or compensates, the
   shareholders in the case of certain losses only up to the
   lower of the shareholder's interest and the trust amount.
2. Insurable interest
   The shareholders must directly suffer from the loss; the
   sharegholders have a "stake" in the loss or damage to the
   assets insured.
3. Utmost good faith
   The business is bound by a good faith bond of honesty and
   fairness. Material facts must be disclosed.
4. Contribution
   Insurers which have similar obligations to the insured
   contribute prior to any contribution by CPA.
5. Causa proxima, or proximate cause
   The cause of loss (the peril) must be directly related to
   the breaking of the business's contract for financial gain
   at the shareholders' expense.
6. Mitigation - Before, and in case of any loss or casualty,
   the business must attempt to keep the loss to a minimum, as
   if the asset was not insured.


F. DISPUTE RESOLUTION
1. Any controversy or claim arising out of or relating to this
   contract, or the breach of this contract, shall be settled
   by binding internet arbitration at judge.me in accordance
   with the judge.me arbitration agreement. The arbitrator's
   decision shall be final and legally binding and judgment may
   be entered thereon.
2. The business must indemnify (make whole) CPA's incurred
   legal fees if they lose their claim, limited to the amount
   required to be paid by CPA to judge.me.
3. All judge.me fees related to this contract must be paid in
   bitcoins.


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Confirmed and thank you!
1590  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: GLBSE 2.0 open for testing on: August 10, 2012, 02:03:45 PM
Can someone give me tips where to invest and whats not trustworthy? I think i wont invest where no dividend were paid till now or where dividends were paid in the past but not in the last time. Regarding verification... i think everything there can be faked, plus everyone from india can open an asset so thats not worth much when it comes to scam.

So what would be your tips?

Thanks!
Sebastian

It is hard to find a Safe place to put Money on the internet that is not controlled by the a Gov. If you want someone to confirm the identity the best thing I have seen is to hold a newspaper up, then a ID card. Then go online look up the newspaper and see if the articles match. When I first announced my Security I got all sorts of scammer alerts just cause I had been creeping and never registered. Then I did all sorts of nonsense to prove my identity. Just go with your gut for the most part thats the best I can offer good luck!
1591  Economy / Lending / Re: Project "BitCoin Credit Agency" UPDATE on: August 10, 2012, 01:16:04 PM
Site being updated, No cost to borrowers free I.D for life, Your identity is backed by a 10BTC promise. If its our fault your details were stolen we will pay you! No cost to borrower, it does not make sense to charge someone who needs a loan, to get a score. That's kinda what sub-prime lenders do charge you a service fee to get the loan. Borrowers are get 1 free credit score per 2 month period, and can dispute anything on there report, With SOLID PROOF! The first 2 weeks is free for EVERYONE! I have a global verification company that I am talking to right now for verifications. More details SOON.
1592  Economy / Lending / Re: Project "BitCoin Credit Agency" UPDATE on: August 10, 2012, 12:07:07 PM
No but I worked In finance, and my GF still is still in it. I have processed over 5000 real USD loans, 2 years before I went in the Marines and 1 years after I got out. Due to my injury in the Marines I can not type fast enough to stay in the sector, good thing the Marines still pay me Cheesy.
1593  Economy / Lending / Re: Project "BitCoin Credit Agency" UPDATE on: August 10, 2012, 11:54:34 AM
Not to worried about that Cheesy
1594  Economy / Lending / Re: Project "BitCoin Credit Agency" need Input on: August 10, 2012, 11:23:02 AM
Got A little mock up here Need some alpha testers to go sign up and check some scores for me,
Check Score Numbers Please post the score below so I know it works
111111114
111111112
111111116

Also Need some people to register you can use fake stuff Just need to make sure My system is working right.
http://bitcoincredit.sharepoint.com
1595  Economy / Securities / Re: [GLBSE]BitCoin Mining Investments "Pre-Release Discounts" on: August 09, 2012, 10:19:38 PM
115/6000 public shares sold in -3 days till release, Pre-sales still open will take orders until Friday at 12pm
1596  Economy / Lending / Re: Req. 5 months registered, 20 hrs. logged in, 60 posts, to post in this subforum. on: August 09, 2012, 09:18:42 PM
I disagree with this, it's the lenders choice who he picks to lend to.  
Correct, and as a lender, I'd like to see these rules implemented. Other lenders are free to disagree, but since lendees would be able to contact the stickied lenders as usual, I don't see much potential downside. Very rarely do newer members ever pay back to the sorry people who loaned out to them, so there's not much opportunity loss.

A lender could easily choose to advertise they're open to lending to new members and enjoy they flood of PMs.
Well, I've been thinking of such a proposal to theymos lately as I'm effing sick of those blatant scam attempts by the kids desperate for a couple of coins. Maybe a less stringent set of rules could be applied though (e.g. fulfil one of the restrictions : 100 post count OR 20 hours logged in OR 5 months registered)
whatever you do, don't do post count. the last thing i like to see is a bunch of people spamming threads with one liners like "cool" or "nice".

I personally see a need for two lending forums - a proper one that is reasonable clean for actual business, and a second one for discussion and other crap that turns up.  I can see a simple situation (two board system) where people post by default into the main board, but threads are moved to the sub board when they are so far off topic they are irrelevant, are simply discussions, obviously not real business, or unfounded (and ponzi talk is included in that irrelevant of which side you think you're on).

The main board would also hold history of previous completed deals and failed details (like John's current list).

Nothing in this stops people from sending pm's directly of lenders making offers.  Also, with the large amount of shit that has been thrown the last few weeks, the forum is at serious risk of business leaving (including my own - I do actually have a web site to shift to).
While I do like having a "clean" lenders forum, I fear that there might be discontent among users on which lenders are "clean" and which ones are not. Treating new users as second class users and grouping them with potential scammers is not a nice way to treat users new to bitcoin.

Yea I got some of that new member scammer thrown on me, but if you want to have trust as a new user do something about it. If they don't then they either do not care enough or they are a scammer lol
1597  Economy / Securities / Re: [GLBSE]BitCoin Mining Investments "Pre-Release Discounts" on: August 09, 2012, 09:04:49 PM
What happens in the event of liquidation of the company - say mining becomes unprofitable - what happens to the hardware?
We fold it up sell it off and split the money from sales 7500 ways minus the cost of selling it.

You're selling a 75% stake in the company - so there are effectively 8000 shares, with 6000 for sale?
Yea about 7500 shares with 6000 for public sale

That would make each share worth 33.3Mhash on delivery (assuming BFL keep to their figures)
You would get about 17.33333Mhash per share, got to remember that 65% goes to shareholders and 35% is used to buy more equipment to increase our profitability.

I take it you've not got an order in place yet with BFL
I started to go through with it, Seen my order number. E-mailed them and got a response an posted in this forum already. This now will  be discussed with investors, I have a couple of options I want to throw out there so we can get some profits in your pockets ASAP! Like buying a small amount of equipment and ordering a couple of singles, or depositing funds for interest till we know there shipping and a guestimate of time it will take. As of right now BFL has no clue when there shipping according to Alicia even though there website says OCT.

Also, do you/will you have access to a bonus-paying PPS pool?
I am working on that Smiley Ill update on that status as soon as I know something.

Also I am in the works with CPA to get insured just waiting for the paperwork to sign.

Thank you for you interest shadow383
1598  Economy / Lending / Re: Req. 5 months registered, 20 hrs. logged in, 60 posts, to post in this subforum. on: August 09, 2012, 08:46:41 PM
And imho more work needs to be done in moderating this forum, stopping non-lenders trashing others threads, or simply posting in reply to a loan request if they have no intention of funds to loan. 

I don't know about better moderators, honestly have not been here long enough to form a opinion about it. But I agree a rule change may need to be made on loan request, maybe only respond if you have a response to the question? and Patrick is also right I think there might need to be a subsection just for loan request so it is easier for the lenders to pick through the trash.
1599  Economy / Lending / Re: Project "BitCoin Credit Agency" need Input on: August 09, 2012, 08:34:35 PM
Lmfao Like the Dr. Gonzo picture def one of my fav authors.
1600  Economy / Lending / Re: Project "BitCoin Credit Agency" need Input on: August 09, 2012, 08:20:19 PM
Would you suggest the same thing to your Boyfriend/Girlfriend Husband/Wife? Or would you be offended if someone told you your other should be a stripper?
I don't know maybe I was raised with these things called Manners but there few and far between as we can see from above.
Have A Nice day and good by  Cool
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