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15821  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain Introduces the S17+ and T17+ on: October 09, 2019, 10:12:08 PM
Borderline at best  more then likely you will trip your circuit breakers over and over.  running 2 units pulling 6000 watts on a 30 amp circuit is possible but not a good idea.

6000/7200 = 5/6 = 83.333%    which is over code.  This assumes an exact 240 volt output   many of us run from 217 to 227 as the norm.

I have 3 spots with 220/240

One does  217 to 227  this would never work  with 2 units on 1 30 amp circuit.

one does  234 - 237  I would bet against this one not tripping gear out.

one does  237 - 243  this could work.

I have pushed all 3 locations

the 217 to 227  prefers 4800 watts or less on a 30 amp circuit.

the  234-237    can do 5100 watts no issues

the 237-243 can approach 5800 watts in the winter.

there is no way would I try 2 s17+  on 1  30 amp circuit.

I would do 2 s17+ and 1 s9  =  2950 + 1350 = 4300 watts which is no worries

now most of my gear is in clifton which runs in the 217 to 227 volt zone
So I do not try  to get to 5000watts on any circuit.

We also have an issue that low volts occurs  say 190 volts  every 10-14 days for about 10 minutes  we think it is a power station issue  so pushing circuits is simply not justified for us.

If you have a very steady 240 volts in a very cool space maybe you can do 2 of these units and pull about 5840 watts on a 30 amp circuit.  I am sure people will try it and some may do okay.
15822  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Innosilicon T2T 30T review on: October 09, 2019, 09:59:36 PM
Yea that pricing lasted a day.. .

Yeah Glad I missed it.  I purchased a s17 53th  an hour after that post.  I went from that post to innosilicon they had raised price from 792 to something like 970

which means fuck you phil and anyone buying from them.

So I was shouted at by biffa to just get a s17 pro  I went to bitmain  and decide to order a s17 53th  and used paypal to pay it off.  Six months to pay it down.
15823  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain Introduces the S17+ and T17+ on: October 09, 2019, 03:39:46 PM
I know some farms have lots of 20amp breakers with a dual 20amp socket. They are a straight drop in power wise.   So pull 28th add 73 th in about two minutes. Also drop one Ethernet cable.

With bitmain dropping so much gear so quickly I now have a clear path to grow the gear.

I buy 1 or 2 s17's a month using paypal to pay for them.
By the ½ ing we will be all s17 gear.  Over 3ph in gear.
15824  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain Introduces the S17+ and T17+ on: October 09, 2019, 03:26:48 PM
Seriously ... How many more S17 variations can they come up with? Just trying to milk every last cent out of those 7nm chips I guess. So this is basically a 73th s17 Pro with no low power mode, so should be priced somewhere between a pro and non-pro per th.

I'll wait 3 more weeks for the S17e+ pro... lol.

  It is more industrial and less home friendly.

Also pulling say 3000 watts it would be better on a 20 amp 220 volt circuit vs a 30 amp 220 volt circuit. Most likely I will not be getting it.
I will focus on s17 and s17 pro as the 2225 to 2300 watt draw they do is more attractive to me.
15825  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain Introduces the S17+ and T17+ on: October 09, 2019, 02:53:26 PM
Yeah the s9s will now fall off. Being replaced with serious gear.

It is funny but this gear 73th at 40 watts a th is a bad fit for my 30amp circuits .

I prefer s17 53 or s17 53 pro.

I can run two of them and pull about 4600 watts on a 30 amp circuit.

If I run the s17 + it will pull about 2920 watts which is not a good use of a 30 amp circuit.

I suppose I could use a hp Pdu make it run 1 s9 and 1 s17+ that would be about 4300 maybe 4400 watts a circuit.
15826  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: WhatsMiner M20 to be delayed 2-3 weeks (edit) may be 5-7 week delay not sure on: October 09, 2019, 01:47:57 PM
I received news from my salesman that tells me that my 8 machines are part of the MicroBT factory to their premises. I come back to you once the tracking number received.

Thank you.  Please let us know exact delay time 3-5 weeks I guess is close.
15827  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: WhatsMiner M20 to be delayed 2-3 weeks (edit) may be 5-7 week delay not sure on: October 09, 2019, 03:21:13 AM
I have a used a1041 coming this week.

Canaan has been okay for timely ness.

But the 31-37 a1041 beta models are about 60watts at 30th setting and 65 watts at 37th setting.

The s17 pro 53th keeps giving me 2225 watts and 53-54th in a warm room. This is better then spec.

41 watts a th.  And the ability to use PayPal with six months to pay no interest.

Bitmain is clearly offering the best deal .
15828  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [WTS] Antminer T9+ [US 48 only] $250 on: October 09, 2019, 12:27:51 AM
Since there has been nobody asking about this I am guessing that the $250 price is too expensive.
Give me an idea of what it is worth (and your offer) and I'll pass it along.
If not it just sits here mining away.

-Dave


https://www.ebay.com/itm/BITMAIN-AntMiner-T9-10-5TH-s-with-PSU-Lightly-Used-Great-Condition-US-SELLER/143395659046?


 The ebay seller  above has 1 with a psu  asking 250 free shipping  best offer.

if your guy is just the t9  maybe 180-200 free shipping will move it.
15829  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: WhatsMiner M20 to be delayed 2-3 weeks (edit) may be 5-7 week delay not sure on: October 08, 2019, 11:57:21 PM
I am on the October batch for m20.  My guess is I will get delayed too.  I would however expect shipping to start next week if something isn't up unusual.  Last week I'm sure doesn't count due to the holiday, gotta keep that in mind.  I'm expecting on hearing word coming up on my m20's I have ordered for end of month saying I won't get them till end of November at this rate.  Bitmain is the only one actually delivering lately.  Least it's not like strongu, that has never delivered 1 miner all year and is to the point of people saying they are changing the specs on miners that were ordered in April.. aka fraud.

My fears are something happened beyond  what has been revealed.  We will know just how late this gear will be. As we do have more then one person waiting for shipping in October lets hope gear does start out this week or next week.
15830  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Innosilicon t3 50 arrived. on: October 08, 2019, 10:17:36 PM
Just wanted to add my recent experiences with Innosilicon.

I ordered T3-43th/s miners on June 17th which were supposed to be shipped in August or September.  On September 11th they asked for an additional $111 per miner to change from the 43th/s to 50th/s miners with a promise to deliver 1 week from payment confirmation.  It took me 2 weeks to get a BTC address from them to send payment to, which I made in the last week of September.  The last email I received from them on the 25th after I made payment was "ok. will check with the financial department and let you know asap."  Now, my email address is blocked because of a spam blocker on their end and I get this message "Hi,your mail is quarantined, and it returns the error code: 554 DT:SPM".  I am aware that there was an extended Chinese holiday last week, however the lack of communication in the last month and delays with shipments are enough for me to never want to purchase from this company again.  My last email to them from another email address (because mine is blocked) asked for an immediate shipment or return of payment.  I know that my order is a small order to them, but I have been a customer of theirs for about a year with multiple orders made.  I'm not sure if they are inundated with emails from irate customers and that is the reason why they aren't responding or if they just don't care to respond to emails.  Their track record for me hasn't been great.

I am aware of other business partners that have purchased and received their miners and others that have not heard back from them via email.  I will give further updates if they happen to send an email or equipment but it doesn't look promising at the moment.

Well that sucks.  So both innosilicon and whatsminer are fucking up.  With lots of delayed gear shipments.
Let us know what they do.. I am trying to track whatsminer and Pangolinminer with those late shipments along with late gear from Innosilicon.

At the moment in the other direction ie responsibility bitmain is allowing PayPal payments for s17 to ship in late August.

Complete opposite on bitmain vs whatsminer or Pangolinminer or innosilicon.
15831  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Bitmain is taking paypal !!!! on: October 08, 2019, 06:11:03 PM
Opening up the doors for the masses is good for decentralization and adoption, which is good for price stability, fees and the overall transactional economy.

Yeah I purchased 1 s17 53th non-pro  due to ship oct 20-30  using paypal to support bitmain's choice of allowing paypal payments.

If they continue to offer paypal I will order another one soon.

I have gear due
Oct 20 ..........   37th
Oct 20-31......   53th
Nov 10-20.....  106th


I will place another order soon  maybe Nov 1-5 
Once  I get the 37th + 53th gear
As much as I don't like bitmain  I do like paying with paypal with six months timeline zero interest.
15832  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Bitmain is taking paypal !!!! on: October 08, 2019, 02:35:45 PM
Interesting.... was just browsing their shop a few minutes ago... but didnt pull the trigger because current value of btc.   Made a $2600 purchase last month, with less coin than it would take to buy make a $2300 purchase today.


Price was okay. PayPal six months to pay  no interest got me to buy it.

2443 with the shipping due in 2-3 weeks.

I now have

A1041 coming in three days.   31-37 th
S17 53 due end of oct....".........  53th
2x t17e due mid nov. ............... 106th

Total. About 190th

To the 1050th on hand.
15833  Economy / Service Discussion / Bitmain is taking paypal !!!! on: October 08, 2019, 02:02:02 PM
I just purchased a s17 53 with paypal on bitmain website six months to pay no interest.  Gear is due oct 20-30

15834  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Innosilicon T2T 30T review on: October 08, 2019, 01:57:15 PM
Panic not Phil, grab some S17-Pro 50's while you can

Questions   which bitmain do I get?

Anyone have a coupon?
15835  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Innosilicon T2T 30T review on: October 08, 2019, 01:26:44 PM
Fuckers raised price to 980  the balls  on them are stainless fucking steel!

https://www.innosilicon.com/html/t2t-30t-miner/index.html



fuck youuuuuuuuuu!
15836  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: WhatsMiner M20 to be delayed 2-3 weeks (edit) may be 5-7 weeks not sure on: October 08, 2019, 12:59:17 PM
I have heard some chatter that pangolin is not shipping and the 2-3 weeks have past it is closer to 5 weeks.

Has anyone had a m20s shipped from pangolinminer in the last 10 days?

https://pangolinminer.com/557-2/

Also has anyone had a m20s shipped from whatsminer.net in the last 10 days?

https://whatsminer.net/shop/

I am trying to determine if any microbt gear is shipping. From the resellers above.

https://twitter.com/Whatsminer_MBT

this is the statement on delay of 2-3 weeks

https://twitter.com/Whatsminer_MBT/status/1174010108549853185

made sept 17  today is Oct 8 21 days later.

I am Looking for any confirms on shipped gear.
15837  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: RandomX Ryzen9 and Ram Settings on: October 08, 2019, 02:54:19 AM
I have an amd 3900x  I use an asrock x570 I have good results mining so far. I use all 12 threads.
On the old algorithm I get 1475 hash.

I have yet to test it with the new algorithm

As for over clocking the unit it is on a piece by piece basis.

Ie some won’t do 4.3 or 4.4

Try under clock to 3.8 and see if you gain much better efficiency .


CPUs tend to either overclock really well or under clock well.

If you want to mine with the unit under clock is okay it may work out.

this mobo

https://www.ebay.com/itm/ASRock-X570-PRO4-Socket-AM4-AMD-X570-DDR4-Quad-CrossFireX-PCIE-4-0/323863124327?

from that ebay seller

this ram

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B016ORTNI2/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?


this nvme 2

https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Force-MP600-Gen4-PCIe/dp/B07SQZYW2V/ref=sr_1_3?

cooler
https://www.amazon.com/CORSAIR-H100i-PLATINUM-Liquid-Cooler/dp/B07JWB5BSN/ref=sr_1_1?


psu
https://www.amazon.com/CORSAIR-Platinum-Certified-Modular-Renewed/dp/B07PB4W544/ref=sr_1_1?
15838  Other / Meta / Re: I'm free of weekly post count. Enjoy it from this week and decisive days of BTC on: October 08, 2019, 12:31:39 AM
 The argument for a signature holiday for all members  has been a meta topic on and off.
Some of us have ended all advertising hoping to encourage a 1 week to 30 day signature holiday. I end my paid signature years ago but I did list simplemining.net as an unpaid signature for more then a year.  Along with an avatar signature for avalon a841.   I ended those about 90 days ago as I would love to see the forum practice a signature vacation once a year for 7 to 30 days.

Mostly  to see how it affects posting and to gather information on how we post with no signatures.
It may backfire and endless newbies may flood with links on b.s. posts.  I would be interested to see the experiment just to see results.
I gave op some merits because I encourage him to do what he did.
I don't think a signature vacation would achieve anything worthwhile and would prefer have a trial period where signature campaigns are not allowed. We could then look at the current state of the forum and compare it to when the signatures are off and then possibly have a vote on whether Bitcointalk was noticeably better without signatures at least the paying signature campaign type.

Ahh the internet.  I meant exactly what you mean. We worded it a bit differently.😀😀




@ COYSTER :

I would turn down a signature offer from anyone with the exception of bitmain if they offered me enough s17 pros I would do it .  But that is not very likely.  In fact it would be next to impossible.
15839  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: De Minimis Units - US on: October 07, 2019, 05:45:56 PM
Updated, sorry for overlooking this for a while.

Yeah  the t2 t30  at 792 looks decent.
15840  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: more that 3 hashboard on S9 on: October 07, 2019, 02:29:27 PM
The old controllers on batches 1,2,3,4 had more then three jacks at least four and they all worked with the old 2016 firmware.

Btw this is a repeat thread question but I am on an iPad and do not want to look back for the old thread.
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