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15881  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CannabisCoin [CANN][X11][Official][420] Developments & Discussions. on: October 18, 2014, 01:41:45 PM
This will be awesome. CANN is bringing crypto to general population and this will be huge for every single cryptocoin that's out there. Don't hate on a coin that's a doing favor on all of us.

If CANN wasn't doing this. Pot, Hemp and other coins wouldn't hold any value today. Don't forget that. Everything is connected here..this is crypto.

Lets join hands together. Everyone will benefit from this.







15882  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CannabisCoin [CANN][X11][Official][420] Developments & Discussions. on: October 18, 2014, 01:38:16 PM
The Feds could technically shut down the entire industry. It's all operating in a grey area. I don't see it as anymore of a risk than the grow houses or dispensaries... Yea, the Feds could shut it down, but they can't fuck with state laws too much, the legalization of marijuana is something that's going to happen, and I'm willing to take the risk... It's no more of a risk than darkcoin.

feds could try.  but no. there will be politicians who will support cannabis legalization. why?  cos it would give them more votes.
15883  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CannabisCoin [CANN][X11][Official][420] Developments & Discussions. on: October 18, 2014, 01:36:09 PM
Bitcoin wasn't specifically set-up to evade the law; they sure as hell shut down the Silk Road though.  Like no one wants to understand, there is no distinction between recreational and medicinal pot under Federal Law.  They're playing nice because the democrats are in charge. For now.


How are the Cannabiscoin devs going to deal w/ the fact that marajuana related transactions are illegal under Federal law?

At present if the government so decided they could shut down Cannabiscoin and seize all assets immediately.  Just because this is on the block chain means nothing. If some from the AGs office in DC calls up Bittrex and Crypsy that's the end of trading essentially killing the coin. They know who the dev is and he'd find himself on charges for money laundering, selling marajuana to kids (it just takes one teenager to buy one gram of pot with Cannabiscoin from a friend to send the dev away for 20 years, etc.)

The banks were given vague clearance to go ahead as long as they meet strict reporting requirements:

FinCEN's legal guidance creates two new categories for banks to report transactions with marijuana businesses. All transactions will be labeled as "suspicious" and banks will have to file so-called Suspicious Activity Reports. Those transactions that banks believe are legal marijuana business can be reported to FinCEN as "marijuana limited" transactions. Those that banks believe may be illegal would be filed as "marijuana priority" transactions and would generate further scrutiny from regulators.

Frank Keating, president and CEO of the American Bankers Association, said:

"While we appreciate the efforts by the Department of Justice and FinCEN, guidance or regulation doesn't alter the underlying challenge for banks," he said. "As it stands, possession or distribution of marijuana violates federal law, and banks that provide support for those activities face the risk of prosecution and assorted sanctions."

Cannabiscoin is a financial instrument specifically designed to facilitate marajuana transactions and as such flies directly in the face of the law.  Banks can hide under the figleaf that they "believe" a transaction involves pot but a cannabiscoin coin transaction will always definitely be for the purchase of pot giving no leeway re enforcement.  Furthermore banks are required to provide detailed transaction history to regulators. Does cannabiscoin have the accountants and regulatory staff to provide this data? Here are the rules:

Also, how does Cannabiscoin handle the post 9/11 Know Your Customer rules that all financial structures must follow? Altcoins fly under the radar because the government could care less about people buying beef jerky, USB cables, etc. Cannabiscoin will actively promote the wide spread distribution and sale of narcotics and so will be under a microscope. Here are the requirements:

Collection and analysis of basic identity information (referred to in US regulations and practice a "Customer Identification Program" or CIP)
Name matching against lists of known parties (such as "politically exposed person" or PEP)
Determination of the customer's risk in terms of propensity to commit money laundering, terrorist finance, or identity theft
Creation of an expectation of a customer's transactional behavior
Monitoring of a customer's transactions against their expected behaviour and recorded profile as well as that of the customer's peers


Of course since these are valid and uncomfortable people the hurry and buy a ticket for a train ride to the moon people will scream FUD in great big red letters. Let them. Real investors need answers ASAP.

this is expected, granting that the fed can do anything.  but what has the fed done to shut down bitcoin? it has gone up over 100 usd.

my take, do not worry about it.  let cann flourish.  if it doesn't, then it doesn't.

just keep it cool. cann is a small operation after all. let's just all watch and see cann flourish.  if it doesn't, then it doesn't. what seems to be the problem? 
15884  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CannabisCoin [CANN][X11][Official][420] Developments & Discussions. on: October 18, 2014, 01:32:28 PM
I am a full member so I guess my voice counts for more for some reason.  To the Feds there is no medical marihuana. Pot is pot. The states are breaking Federal law and Obama is choosing to not care. If Romney had won there would be no medical marajuana or legalization. This guy has interesting questions, the team should take time and answer them.

How are the Cannabiscoin devs going to deal w/ the fact that marajuana related transactions are illegal under Federal law?

At present if the government so decided they could shut down Cannabiscoin and seize all assets immediately.  Just because this is on the block chain means nothing. If some from the AGs office in DC calls up Bittrex and Crypsy that's the end of trading essentially killing the coin. They know who the dev is and he'd find himself on charges for money laundering, selling marajuana to kids (it just takes one teenager to buy one gram of pot with Cannabiscoin from a friend to send the dev away for 20 years, etc.)

The banks were given vague clearance to go ahead as long as they meet strict reporting requirements:

FinCEN's legal guidance creates two new categories for banks to report transactions with marijuana businesses. All transactions will be labeled as "suspicious" and banks will have to file so-called Suspicious Activity Reports. Those transactions that banks believe are legal marijuana business can be reported to FinCEN as "marijuana limited" transactions. Those that banks believe may be illegal would be filed as "marijuana priority" transactions and would generate further scrutiny from regulators.

Frank Keating, president and CEO of the American Bankers Association, said:

"While we appreciate the efforts by the Department of Justice and FinCEN, guidance or regulation doesn't alter the underlying challenge for banks," he said. "As it stands, possession or distribution of marijuana violates federal law, and banks that provide support for those activities face the risk of prosecution and assorted sanctions."

Cannabiscoin is a financial instrument specifically designed to facilitate marajuana transactions and as such flies directly in the face of the law.  Banks can hide under the figleaf that they "believe" a transaction involves pot but a cannabiscoin coin transaction will always definitely be for the purchase of pot giving no leeway re enforcement.  Furthermore banks are required to provide detailed transaction history to regulators. Does cannabiscoin have the accountants and regulatory staff to provide this data? Here are the rules:

Also, how does Cannabiscoin handle the post 9/11 Know Your Customer rules that all financial structures must follow? Altcoins fly under the radar because the government could care less about people buying beef jerky, USB cables, etc. Cannabiscoin will actively promote the wide spread distribution and sale of narcotics and so will be under a microscope. Here are the requirements:

Collection and analysis of basic identity information (referred to in US regulations and practice a "Customer Identification Program" or CIP)
Name matching against lists of known parties (such as "politically exposed person" or PEP)
Determination of the customer's risk in terms of propensity to commit money laundering, terrorist finance, or identity theft
Creation of an expectation of a customer's transactional behavior
Monitoring of a customer's transactions against their expected behaviour and recorded profile as well as that of the customer's peers


Of course since these are valid and uncomfortable people the hurry and buy a ticket for a train ride to the moon people will scream FUD in great big red letters. Let them. Real investors need answers ASAP.
Ahahaha! This is such a desperate try  Grin Grin Grin Grin This is medicinal Cannabis ...so get lost !!   Grin Grin Grin

we will all get answers from the cann devs for sure.  but for people trying to bring this up, why now that cann is on the rise? of course it will look like fud. it looks like fud right now.

also, for a guy who supports crypto, some people are getting fussy on what cann is doing. i mean really, i'm pretty sure all the coins you support have some fudsters too.  and this has been happening over and over.

why not we just all get together and flourish. fuck the fed let's support all crypto and take the flow of value away from the banksters and straight to the people.
15885  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CannabisCoin [CANN][X11][Official][420] Developments & Discussions. on: October 18, 2014, 01:23:49 PM
How are the Cannabiscoin devs going to deal w/ the fact that marajuana related transactions are illegal under Federal law?

At present if the government so decided they could shut down Cannabiscoin and seize all assets immediately.  Just because this is on the block chain means nothing. If some from the AGs office in DC calls up Bittrex and Crypsy that's the end of trading essentially killing the coin. They know who the dev is and he'd find himself on charges for money laundering, selling marajuana to kids (it just takes one teenager to buy one gram of pot with Cannabiscoin from a friend to send the dev away for 20 years, etc.)

The banks were given vague clearance to go ahead as long as they meet strict reporting requirements:

FinCEN's legal guidance creates two new categories for banks to report transactions with marijuana businesses. All transactions will be labeled as "suspicious" and banks will have to file so-called Suspicious Activity Reports. Those transactions that banks believe are legal marijuana business can be reported to FinCEN as "marijuana limited" transactions. Those that banks believe may be illegal would be filed as "marijuana priority" transactions and would generate further scrutiny from regulators.

Frank Keating, president and CEO of the American Bankers Association, said:

"While we appreciate the efforts by the Department of Justice and FinCEN, guidance or regulation doesn't alter the underlying challenge for banks," he said. "As it stands, possession or distribution of marijuana violates federal law, and banks that provide support for those activities face the risk of prosecution and assorted sanctions."

Cannabiscoin is a financial instrument specifically designed to facilitate marajuana transactions and as such flies directly in the face of the law.  Banks can hide under the figleaf that they "believe" a transaction involves pot but a cannabiscoin coin transaction will always definitely be for the purchase of pot giving no leeway re enforcement.  Furthermore banks are required to provide detailed transaction history to regulators. Does cannabiscoin have the accountants and regulatory staff to provide this data? Here are the rules:

Also, how does Cannabiscoin handle the post 9/11 Know Your Customer rules that all financial structures must follow? Altcoins fly under the radar because the government could care less about people buying beef jerky, USB cables, etc. Cannabiscoin will actively promote the wide spread distribution and sale of narcotics and so will be under a microscope. Here are the requirements:

Collection and analysis of basic identity information (referred to in US regulations and practice a "Customer Identification Program" or CIP)
Name matching against lists of known parties (such as "politically exposed person" or PEP)
Determination of the customer's risk in terms of propensity to commit money laundering, terrorist finance, or identity theft
Creation of an expectation of a customer's transactional behavior
Monitoring of a customer's transactions against their expected behaviour and recorded profile as well as that of the customer's peers


Of course since these are valid and uncomfortable people the hurry and buy a ticket for a train ride to the moon people will scream FUD in great big red letters. Let them. Real investors need answers ASAP.

this is expected, granting that the fed can do anything.  but what has the fed done to shut down bitcoin? it has gone up over 100 usd.

my take, do not worry about it.  let cann flourish.  if it doesn't, then it doesn't.
15886  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CannabisCoin [CANN][X11][Official][420] Developments & Discussions. on: October 18, 2014, 03:34:29 AM
****This is a direct message from Delta9 right now****

_______________________________________________________________________________ __

 18 minutes ago
CannabisCoin (CANN)

Im in a meeting
3m 3 minutes ago
CannabisCoin (CANN)

Tell everyone im in a meeting and az420 is fudding. It seems it might be CCN tokyopotato

 4 minutes ago
CannabisCoin (CANN)

They can skype : cannabis.coin
2m
_______________________________________________________________________________ ___

~darylluke.

i don't think tokyopotato is capable of fudding.  unless there's another tokyopotato.

the tokyo i know is a straight up guy and is a writer at coinjoint:  http://coinjoint.info
15887  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CannabisCoin [CANN][X11][Official][420] Developments & Discussions. on: October 18, 2014, 03:16:25 AM
does cann have an official forum?
15888  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CannabisCoin [CANN][X11][Official][420] Developments & Discussions. on: October 18, 2014, 12:52:59 AM
FUDDERS in FULL FORCE TODAY!

Haters are ANGRY at the success of the Cannabiscoin team. And trust me, they are EVERYWHERE!

I WILL continue to repeat myself:

STEER CLEAR and IGNORE:


-Worthless and meaningless FUD

-FUD spreaded by "trusted" members. These individuals are either being paid or are straightup ignorant. "TRUSTED" members are not always trustworthy. Big RED flag if you see "trusted" members spewing FUD posts left and right.

-Distractions. AVOID THEM. Hear people putting CANN down and putting another MJ coin on a pedestal? RED FLAG.


EVERYTHING is going great.

Cannabiscoin is going global faster than we think. Everything is GREEN.
OCTOBER 20TH is only the beginning!

Once again, I cannot stress this enough!!!! STEER CLEAR OF FUD AND DISTRACTIONS!

We are all on a successful path!

#YesWeCANN



friendly reminder!!!

would it be a good idea to get listed in btc38 and/or bter and get a cann/cny trading pair going?
15889  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CannabisCoin [CANN][X11][Official][420] Developments & Discussions. on: October 18, 2014, 12:50:12 AM
price is dropping on FUD. Its gut check time.

??  price was 1000x lower days ago.   Huh
15890  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Vertcoin - First Scrypt N | First Stealth Address - Privacy without mixer on: October 18, 2014, 12:30:49 AM
vertcoin.org not available. why is that?


ddos?
15891  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Cryptsy down? on: October 17, 2014, 12:25:27 PM
yup it's down.
15892  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: 1 Uro coin = 1 tonne of urea on: October 16, 2014, 10:54:34 AM
true-asset,

thanks.  just got home.  Smiley
15893  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: UROCOINS DID NOT ARRIVE IN MY WALLET on: October 16, 2014, 04:02:19 AM
Did you confirm the withdrawal? Does the exchange take time to process withdrawals?

Writing in caps makes you look like a twat btw.

nope usually takes less than 30 minutes for transactions to appear in my wallet.

anyway, just trying to get info if there's anything wrong with the network.

edited the title. lol
15894  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CannabisCoin [CANN][X11][Official][420] Developments & Discussions. on: October 16, 2014, 03:58:35 AM

Why are the price trends of CANN and URO so closely related the last week?  Undecided

Not sure WTF you are getting at but your just reaching for straws. Go spinout somewhere else.

I'm not sure what you mean by spinout, but I'm totally behind this coin. I'm just buying and holding.

But it seems clear as day that those graphs are ridiculously similar. Maybe it's coincidence, maybe it's a pump on commodity coins, maybe it's a true-value rise in commodity coins, idk, I'm just sharing something that is interesting to me. but you don't seem to find it interesting.

They claim it's backed by urea or something like that?  I think it's a high grade soil or something, there's a correlation because the cann coin will indeed need soil for there business, but the minimum order amount is 12,500 tonnes I believe at a 1:1 tonne ratio.  It's a pretty far fetched correlation because nothing dictates that the CANN team will use URO to buy there soil, expecially if you can only get 12,500 tonnes at a time, it's just not that economical...

I actually remember a post by Delta9 mentioning URO....week or two ago?

I may have just been high though...and im too busy right now to browse



i dont know what's up with URO.  but i bought some days ago, nothing big. then it started to go up. so i decided to keep it in a wallet.  but no URO coins arrived.  bummer.  emailed bittrex about it but i doubt they'll be able to do anything.  but i'll keep waiting and see what happens.

 here is my address: UgqHD9gVy9sb7Y85BehEvjrYJwtuq9pPis

here's the TxId: b5cdc1f23e628abe3ad9a586783f2d17b2786440c90ca0b71f202c18e1ed62d9
15895  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: UROCOINS DID NOT ARRIVE IN MY WALLET on: October 16, 2014, 03:47:37 AM
here's the TxId:  b5cdc1f23e628abe3ad9a586783f2d17b2786440c90ca0b71f202c18e1ed62d9
15896  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Uro coins did not arrive in my wallet on: October 16, 2014, 03:47:01 AM
so i bought some URO.  nothing big.  just around 115 coins.  anyway when it started to rise, i was like ok time to store it in a wallet.  so i d/l'ed the wallet, synced it and then sent my coins to my wallet.  

the coins did not arrive, and it is already over 30 minutes.  when i did a search at the blockchain explorer it says "address not found on the network".

here is my address:  UgqHD9gVy9sb7Y85BehEvjrYJwtuq9pPis

here is an image of my withdrawal from bittrex:

15897  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: why URO thread get locked? Cant keep up the lies? on: October 16, 2014, 03:41:20 AM
so i bought some URO.  nothing big.  just around 115 coins.  anyway when it started to rise, i was like ok time to store it in a wallet.  so i d/l'ed the wallet, synced it and then sent my coins to my wallet. 

the coins did not arrive, and it is already over 30 minutes.  when i did a search at the blockchain explorer it says "address not found on the network".

here is my address:  UgqHD9gVy9sb7Y85BehEvjrYJwtuq9pPis

here is an image of my withdrawal from bittrex:

15898  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: 1 Uro coin = 1 tonne of urea on: October 16, 2014, 03:23:06 AM
so i bought some URO.  nothing big.  just around 115 coins.  anyway when it started to rise, i was like ok time to store it in a wallet.  so i d/l'ed the wallet, synced it and then sent my coins to my wallet. 

the coins did not arrive, and it is already over 30 minutes.  when i did a search at the blockchain explorer it says "address not found on the network".

here is my address:  UgqHD9gVy9sb7Y85BehEvjrYJwtuq9pPis

here is an image of my withdrawal from bittrex:

15899  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CannabisCoin [CANN][X11][Official][420] Developments & Discussions. on: October 15, 2014, 01:46:54 PM
Just wrote an email to Editor and "POT40" from HIGHTIMES Magazine with some links, asking them to look into this start-up venture.

There are lots of smokers/patients that know nothing about the world of crypto and might miss out on what this business model can offer

how cool would it be for the cann project as a whole to be featured in hightimes.  this will be good, not just for cann, but for crypto as well.
15900  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CannabisCoin [CANN][X11][Official][420] Developments & Discussions. on: October 15, 2014, 11:31:07 AM
Like we said,

We are doing this for the goodness of the cannabis community.  For them.  The Patients.

We are just scratching the surface.

Keep in mind.

When they (PATIENTS) get hold of CannabisCoin, only few things will come to mind.

1) "I gotta get my hands on it"  which leads to what?

2) "I'm telling my friends about this!"  which leads to what?

Once they are able to get there meds for almost FREE!? what do you think will happen?  JUST WATCH Smiley


Other Dispensaries in the area may say:

1) "Why are my patients going to ABC dispensary all of the sudden?"  
2) "Why are patients flocking to that establishment?"
3) "Why are we losing some regular patients that keep us a float?"
4) "Are we missing something?"

Just some thoughts.


We don't trade.  

We are patients, entrepreneurs, and visionaries that have a mission.


~D9
YesWeCann


I never knew there are so many Patient people at bitcointalk.org
  Grin Grin Grin

that's the thing.  of course it started here at bitcointalk cos it's an altcoin first and foremost, and would end up in the hands of a lot of people outside this community due to the mission and goals of the project.
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