are you implying NOBL will use NXT in the future?
sorry for being clueless..
No. NOBL (NobleCoin) remains an independent blockchain that runs on the BTC codebase (forked to PoW/PoS), and will always have access to more exchanges/service simply because it is the most supported type of fork. It keeps everything it's currently got. It's decentralized, free from regulation, offers no features that would require me to risk being thrown in jail. NXT is a platform that can run what people consider an asset (although it's not, the legal and regulatory implications are lerge and the definition is wrong - hi Bryce) - but I call colored coins - Counterparty is a platform also, so is Clearinghouse and CoinPrism/Colored Coins or sidechains on the BTC block chain - all of which I could and very well may use. What I want to build are these - colored coins that work in a regulated environment that make use of the technology, under the Noble brand, and can only be 'fueled' by NOBL - this requires a lot of thought & explanation (of which I may be failing) but it also involves licensing, papers, funding, a little risk and a lot of preparation for on my end. They focus on using the technology - rather than the ideals. They work more in controlled, centralized infrastructure and follow a path more in tune with centralization, transparency, regulation and legal changes coming. The 'fuel' that powers that infrastructure is crowdfunded using a combination of NOBL (which is destroyed) and BTC (enough to fund further development) and ideally will have many perks and features more suited to coins relying on a central authority in tune with regulation and the law - explored in full in the paper. The burning of NOBL is my way of adding value to what we have here already, while funding projects because frankly I have none. This lets me push further ideas/development that is attractive to a certain set of individuals and people who simply enjoy new coins or a different type of emission, in return for a sister-coin that is quite experimental but with a lot of value on its own. The value it gives NOBL is that NOBL is a primary way to transition to different coins (either by people who want to enter the new coin, or people - and there are many - unhappy with the current specifications), and the NOBL used is destroyed - removing it from circulation completely. I don't do a colored coin on NOBL itself because frankly it's too young, too small and too vulnerable to be considered seriously, and there are far more established options out there. Ideally everyone would simply burn their NOBL forever and move over to a completely different idea for a new era - however there are many not interested in this approach. So these projects are also a choice to enter a platform that you desire (depending on your perception on what is better or suits your ideals) that will be supported on all the infrastructure. More questions are coming and I will continue to try and explain it - the paper and diagrams should help me formalize and present this idea until many people understand. Sometimes I think too much too big too far ahead. your approach could work towards gaining mainstream adoption. will be following you and NOBL. good luck! |
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are you implying NOBL will use NXT in the future?
sorry for being clueless..
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http://jasonlcurby.com/nocc2.pnghttp://jasonlcurby.com/Distribution-Draft.pdfAll I'm going to release until ready. Please PM me your Q's here as some have that will be answered. Much of this I'm getting proofread and input from many other sources. It is a draft - needs tightening - will be improved. This is not more talk (as a lot of the year has been) as the pre-ANN and release/ITO/movement will be available by the end of the week and move into next - the CC coins and/or NXT is ready - the infrastructure is there - the licensing and gameplan outlined in the paper - exchange ready and interested parties. DMD is working on PoW/PoS and will be added to the Marketplace/CoinPayments as soon as I get the word an update can be ready to be rolled out in preparation (or beforehand if they would like me to move first). I would also like to extend the offer - if permission is granted - for this to be payable in DMD at 10% discount (as NOBL will be) for their support and I will pass them their funds funds for dev. or to burn at their discretion. Better insight: <Rofo> the paper hopefully fixes the price, attitude and general apathy
<Rofo> ive listed all the gold stuff in the paper also
<Rofo> its very easy for people to ask me to work or back or peg or offer discounts or deliver things without sometimes realizing that things cost money and resources
<Rofo> so ive always had a choice to either fund that through the premine (which means selling which means scam email alerts and more negative feedback)
<Rofo> or not doing anything which is considered just as bad
<Rofo> of the $300k premine only $7k became fiat and anyone is welcome to report that and double-check it (and get me for fraud ala moolah) *I will publish documents & accounts that testify to this*
<Rofo> but
<Rofo> if i had turned all that into fiat at the top and become quite rich
<Rofo> people would not trust me at all but be happier with the price
<Rofo> of NOBL since id be controlling & pumping it
<Rofo> its been a very damned if you do damned if you dont situation all year
<Rofo> but
<Rofo> everythings gone into the paper for 2015 very differently
<Rofo> i think itll make the case quite well
<Rofo> ive been thinking of
<Rofo> if blocknet and supernet are linking protocols and coins in a horizontal manner
<Rofo> this is a project reaching vertically on top of multiple platforms instead
<Rofo> v2 has a codename i dont want taken 
<Rofo> https://twitter.com/NobleCoin/status/510770935402483712
<Rofo> having a premine and not dumping it early was a double-edge sword
<Rofo> noone wanted it dumped to protect their coin value but at the same time im competing with people that have a lot of btc and i needed to fund stuff with minimum resources instead to make my case
<Rofo> the whole reason i focused on rep and trust and legitimacy/transparency etc at risk of making everyone unhappy for a year
<Rofo> was for this coming stage with the moolah backlash and higher expectations/requiring cleaner actors etc
<Rofo> *this paper is a raising (ITO 50% NOBL/50% BTC)
<Rofo> *NOBL (that is used to move into this project) burnt for good
<Rofo> *BTC to fund everything very clearly laid out (a very strong case)
<Rofo> what we need are real use-cases and real unique selling points/services
<Rofo> and i know i need to sacrifice a decent amount of decentralization and idealism for a lot of that
<Rofo> so im intertwining the two
<Rofo> some people want to move off
<Rofo> some new people want to enter the idea but not nobl
<Rofo> and some people dont want me to touch nobl
<Rofo> think of it as blocknet but a centralized crowdfunded idea on top of a protocol rather than joining protocols together
<Rofo> but its very important and laid out that people who hold NOBL see why it works too
<Rofo> its not a decentralized curreny and is deflationary/has a shelf life of approximately 18 months
<Rofo> while NOBL continues on after and the idea is recycled
<Rofo> i need to get a lot of things right and that makes sense to people so they get all the 'ahhh' moments i had to go through lol
<Rofo> ok for better or worse keep in mind this is a draft and i have multiple people who will be proofreading after i tighten it up
<Rofo> plus itll grow to make more sense with the faq and more questions over the next cpl weeks
<Rofo> http://jasonlcurby.com/Distribution-Draft.pdf
<Rofo> legalities is full of
<Rofo> distinctions and system-setup that makes it different from a ponzi-scheme
<Rofo> or SEC regulation/illegal activities or how it works
<Rofo> until we get regulatory clarification and/or licensing (australia is a good country for that)
<Rofo> plus many services and infrastructure outlined in utility
<Rofo> ive been unable to afford the final advice and final tick of approval for the second-hand dealers license
<Rofo> even though its only around $500 i want some legal clarification in the capital
<Rofo> maybe that makes clearer why this helps NOBL holders as well
<Rofo> i can fund things and do the perks/get more people interested in a similar coin
<Rofo> and actually deliver everything i should have sold the premine for
<Rofo> the second cycle will probably be very different to the first
<Rofo> as regulations and law will have become clarified and ill be licensed
<Rofo> but if i just moved all of NOBL over
<Rofo> and said im in charge now, this is centralized
<Rofo> well that just blows everything out of the water and isnt really a good idea imho
<Rofo> nocc is colored coins using coinprism/web wallet
<Rofo> noxt is nxt 'asset'
<Rofo> both different, just 'possible' platforms
<Rofo> could be counterparty of clearinghouse 2 but my preference would be cc or nxt
<Rofo> or*
<Rofo> basically its using the platforms for what theyre meant to be used for
<Rofo> rather than just making another damn 2.0 platform
<Rofo> but
<Rofo> you dont have to use either unless u want to cold store
<Rofo> as itll be on polo and ill push for bittrex support
<Rofo> if the idea took off you could interchange between platforms using an intermediary
<Rofo> 3. Platform Agnosticism = its the coin and what it represents that coints, the users could use their platform of choice
<Rofo> one platform though is good for liquidity and experimentation
<Rofo> all this year ive been building things on top of the protocols while ours suffered and didnt go anywhere due to talks disintegrating into nothing
<Rofo> so this leverages all of them
<Rofo> with exchanges picking up 2.0s and some dev work to offer a site that allows you to move coins across platforms
<Rofo> everything built on top starts becoming a little more platform agnostic
<Rofo> but
<Rofo> thats more business focused rather than NobleCoin which i want to keep building as a decentralized currency
<Rofo> colored/appcoins work a lot differently
<Rofo> yes we can do that
<Rofo> colored coins are very sexy and simple but i have too much control over issuance for people to feel comfortable
<Rofo> many people will just keep their coins on exchanges and not worry about the platform even after everything
<Rofo> for nxt they can take it to the nxt wallet yes
<Rofo> im leaning towards nxt
<Rofo> because CC lets me reissue at will which is something people wont accept for good reason
<Rofo> nxt also allows decentralized exchange and extra exchanges
<Rofo> the platform is really nice, but the perception of nxt is not ideal
<Rofo> yeah ive always wanted distribution to be even and very spread but if something is distributed differently and that fact made public i dont see how its a big deal as people know what theyre getting themselves into ala NXT
<Rofo> what ive always disliked is complete control masked over time as fair and natural distribution i see NXT is mentioned here... anyone wanna shed some light what this is about? ty. |
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Only 1 purchase for 1 CANN since 10/20 at HWC...
HWC still not advertising that they accept CANN on their website or Facespace.
a cann giveaway for patients in that area will do wonders. |
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also check out this project utilizing ripple for their LETS economy: http://weboftrust.netawesme stuff imo.. |
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for real world currencies backed by a government, i think ripple is a perfect fit. a countries' central bank would be the perfect ripple gateway.
i know ripple is frowned upon in these parts, but please explore the tech, be open minded and see for yourself.
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To me anyway, Its clear from the charts, that there is a lot of interest in the coin from big players, keep up the hardwork dev  lol. |
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I can confirm beaker's a she. Just can't believe this picture made it to the internett. Back then me and a friend used to get high and laugh at this picture and the stories connected to it, I remember that class mostly made and ate waffles all day long and beavis collected bottles and had anxiety for people with bikerhelmets. And now it's all over the nett! Speachless and laughing my ass off! I find it ironic I run into someone that actually knew of these people, this is no longer just some random photo. i don't know about you guys.. but munster seems to be the big man on campus... or maybe hund dong...? |
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Can someone explain the difference between what Via team is working on and what Bitcoin "sidechains" is to someone who is not a programmer please??
Is this a concern for the Via coin?
https://coinreport.net/tree-chains-vs-side-chains-controversy-explained/Just noticed some legendary human being sold 60,000 while I was asleep and destroyed the sell wall  may have to lower my bid... SOLD and destroyed the SELL wall? Destroyed the buy wall  Now buyers have a chance to get cheaper coin. sure. but come on, let's be honest. this is a good project, but from a trading stand point, it might be best to be in the sidelines for now where via is concerned. |
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cann will down < 1k satoshi  Looking at your history I can see how you are trying to get CANN for cheap. You should leave like you said. Go look up "STFU" cann will down < 1k satoshi down 2k2 after i go out ) cann will die ) #cann dump = 3k because i going out go out with me, please  i think #cann will die i going out  LOL Just another dude from China to ignore? my first impression from those posts.. i think he bought close to the peak and is now hating cann due to losses. why else hate a project with a passion? that is funny indeed. |
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Wow haven't seen as much of a pump and dump since last year's Pride Community Chilli Cook-Off.
Shame though, CANN looks like a good enough coin to me. I guess we'll see where it goes from here...
this. |
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any chance we could get an article at high times magazine?
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pardon my ignorance, but what is lyra2?
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I really hate HYPOCRISY! All this FUD hidden behind innocent questions and doubts are just the actions of jealous people that didn't buy CANN cheap and hate the others who did. This is just LAME!
Until few days ago, no one of you wanted to hear about CANN.
Now you all seem concerned.
I have 2 words for you GET LOST!
Buy or not. Believe or not. Just stop crying in here, you are ridiculous.
this is total bullshit. So, when I am asking innocent questions I am jealous? Dude, as said before: my first CANN buys were at 180sat and I made huge profit. You are posting/cheerleading here since 2 days, meanwhile talking negative about XC in other threads.....who is hypocryte? What will be the coin you are cheerleading next week? sorry. there are just too much fud on here lately. it is very understandable that some would overreact. as for your questions, you can pm the devs and i'm sure you will get a reply from them. and for your concerns, thank you. they are truly appreciated. |
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i want to see the word 'cannabis' in coinmarketcap's top ten list. |
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I really hate HYPOCRISY! All this FUD hidden behind innocent questions and doubts are just the actions of jealous people that didn't buy CANN cheap and hate the others who did. This is just LAME!
Until few days ago, no one of you wanted to hear about CANN.
Now you all seem concerned.
I have 2 words for you GET LOST!
Buy or not. Believe or not. Just stop crying in here, you are ridiculous.
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That's what I'm saying, say your piece, if your not getting the answer you want... Sell and look for a better coin. Or understand the risks and buy. It's not going to hurt my feelings either way.
yup. the thing is some people are malicious fudsters. |
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Yes they take crytpo , but it is not BACKED by the actual commodity at 1 coin = 1 g ....... THAT is the difference.. then don't buy cann. it might be too risky for you. no one is forcing anyone to buy. you have made your point. thank you. we appreciate your concern. |
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This will be awesome. CANN is bringing crypto to general population and this will be huge for every single cryptocoin that's out there. Don't hate on a coin that's a doing favor on all of us.
If CANN wasn't doing this. Pot, Hemp and other coins wouldn't hold any value today. Don't forget that. Everything is connected here..this is crypto.
Lets join hands together. Everyone will benefit from this.
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