okay I will list you.

I don't need any info unless you win.

The info above is not quite enough but I don't need any more unless you win.

The info above  does not tie that sale to anyone at all.  Don't worry  unless you win we can figure out what I need from you then.

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I updated  my list below

1) DieselWeaseI
2) Lrowland21093
3) Kingofhammers
4) mstrozier
5) gcanelson
6) searing
7) cliftonk = winner 1  I will retire number seven and cliftonk from future contests
8 )  shrimplomein = winner 2 I will retire number eight and shrimplomein from future contests
9) LightZ = winner 3a number is retired.
10)okwasmo
11)hersh9
12)taserz  = winner 3 I will retire number 12 and taserz from future contests no winner    did not have a r606
13)ftguy
14)k21000
15)hammuh
16) Kalus has been added
17) sarahsmithe
18) ClaytonBigsby
19) Stryfe
20) demagogue
21) Cohenpol
22) nuanicaj
23) gvb = winner 4 number retired
24) sethahoward
25) margotcoins

 7,8,9,23  12 are winners so far.

if you want on the list let me know.
you need to have purchased  r606 from sidehack or a qualifed seller
you will be asked for an address to ship and proof of purchase if you are a winner.

Next drawing some time in Sept.

Or simply, the campaign manager should come into an agreement to set a minimum payrate per rank then projects willing to pay participants above the minimum payrate are free to do so but no projects will pay below the minimum. This way project hoping to employ the best posters on the forum will be forced to increase their payrate to attract them. Some signature payrate are just so ridiculous they only attracts spamming.

For the payrate, I recommend minimum;
Member = 0.002BTC
Full member = 0.004BTC
Snr member = 0.006BTC
Hero member  = 0.008BTC
Legendary  = 0.01BTC

I just went to Lowe's to pick up the last items that weren't being shipped.  Instead of the tongue and groove you are using (which looks nice in your basement BTW), I bought a 5/4" thick cedar board.  Should I just use one of these, or should I double it up?  I also have some cedar fence boards that are just under 3/4" thick, I could do one of each.  I'm just wondering how thick I should be building these wedges.   Obviously I want it close enough to channel the air but not so close it is a fire hazard.

I would love 1 th/s but even at what seems stable - around 630 will eventually retume to lower until it gets to 550

As pangolinminer promised to ship out before 31 august 2019, in fact they dint do it , during august 31-sep 15 pangolinminer still selling instant stock which is usd 4000, that mean they purposely dragged pre order customer stock and selling it for higher price to make profit , they thought microbt have enough stock to supply but guess what,  they were wrong . This issue happen because of pangolinminer greedy , they wanted to earn more but sacrifice our pre order customer profit . Now they are just keep silent , without answering any email . what a coward.

Seems there were issues with chip delivery to microBT causing delays. Though this shouldn't affect customer service.

Twitter announcement made.

https://twitter.com/Whatsminer_MBT/status/1174010108549853185

https://i.imgur.com/ww1tzDo.png

Looks like a delay on all those m20s units on order.  Things are swing in the favor of bitmain  and maybe avalon.

It is possible that this gear could face  longer delays then 2-3 weeks.  Based on other companies and delays that have happened in the past.

I put in my order for 2 s9k  units they shipped today.

They were due to ship  sept 20 to sept 30

I paid 310 each.

They reduced price to 253.

So I should get coupons.

As we said this place is great until you want to bring up some observable instances of financially motivated wrong doing by DT members. Try that and see if you get away with out a ton of scam tags screaming you are a defamer and scammer. You say you can't give me a scam tag for presenting FACTS in the history that anyone can verify

THEY WILL SAY

"I CAN I WILL AND I JUST HAVE"

this is from a confirmed and documented auction scammer who supports a proven scammer who was caught red handed denying the project he held bags of tokens for was premined/instamined and he knew this because he was on the POW launch. It is accepted and documented FACT that it took place, there is strong case for him extorting people and a shady escrow to his name that many believe was for a small fortune.

You mention any of it and you will get a scam tag and THEYMOS allows this to happen and says if you whistleblow on observable financially high risk DT members - you MAY have a case for saying this is wrong, but now you got angry about being trust abused by proven scammers that means you are CRAZY so therefore there is some mental gymnastics that say although you have been here years, done one trade (successful) and never attempted any others, fought the largest scams and won a 2 000 000 000 USD airdrop compensation offer to the board and made many people rich from presenting your trading advice for which they have been publicly grateful. That even so.. because you got angry the same scammers you fought and defeated to induce a 2 000 000 000 usd compensation offer have BRANDED ALL YOUR THREADS AS ONES STARTED BY A SCAMMER... now you are actually a scammer yourself?  errrr okay theymos

What about them the real scammers those with observable instances of financially motivated wrongdoing ? well Theymos says, I will talk to OG and other members and work things out so any scam tags the REAL SCAMMERS have on them can be taken away so there is no more fighting. Fighting is counter productive.

Only because people Theymos is familiar with OG, lauda, Vod and other meta board people were effected did he bring forth the much needed flagging system. Theymos does not care about other members not from meta board in our opinion because he does not hear about it and can get back to watching tv.

You don't have to be dishonest or against free speech yourself when you are running a forum to indirectly allow an environment that crushes free speech. If you want to be warden of this board you need to ensure you are keeping an eye on things like this and not allow a 2 tier system to spring up where rules only apply to "some people".

This is a very important movement taking place and this is the center of it. You don't want a censored ANTI SATOSHI  2tier system springing up at the center. Fair transparent rules FOR ALL MEMBERS. If best efforts are not taking place to ensure this then for sure ROGER VER and anyone else can start saying Theymos is responsible for it since he is the warden of this board. That is why it is VERY IMPORTANT that theymos stamps out any corruption or double standards as soon as he sees them. Not just say oh its a few red marks on their account what's the big deal, or a few deletes here and there. Stop squabbling and being counter productive.

Clear double standard from mod or system controller = Last warning before perm expulsion.

Clear scamming or financial wrong doing from anyone in the trust system = Out and perm ban

no sweeping it under the carper or roger ver can not be denied to having a point, whether theymos is directly or indirectly involved.

We support theymos as a person and believe he is honest and want the best for the forum. FOR SURE WHY WOULD HE NOT
We don't support the "oh it will sort itself out" "oh what you're and auction scammer and observable imbecile - sure DT and merit source for you",  " what you have never scammed anyone and have no observable instances of financially motivated wrong doing  but scammers gave you a scam tag.... shut up with your boring long winded moaning "

Wake up , Man up and get rid of the censorship on this board in terms of dirty corrupt moderators and scamming untrustworthy DT members and their weak ass supporters....this is all a form of censorship if you allow them to have power to damage other persons accounts and put notices on the top of their threads saying THIS THREAD STARTED IS A SCAMMER.... you are censoring their entire output here and years of their hard work.


Let's get on with it. So people like VER say hey theymos board is censoring me and deleting my posts. We can say NOT TRUE unless you broke the rules that apply to ALL MEMBERS if you stay within the rules your post was 100% NOT DELETED AND NOT CENSORED. We can not say that right now.

You can say what you like with a negative trust score but you will be censored because

1/ people will fear saying or asking certain things (even if they are true) because they don't want red trust
2. People will be  also be ignored (just because they spoke the truth) as they have big scam sign on their account. Who bothers to read what they have to say after that is on the top.

This is wrong.

We are STRONG SUPPORTERS OF THEYMOS HIMSELF because he seems to be the best person for this type of movement in that he does not seem greedy or dishonest and does support free speech.

However he is NOT perfect. He needs to man up and get rid of the corrupt and observably financially dangerous scum bags here. They are the censorship because you allowed them (as selfish , greedy and corrupt people do if you don't keep an eye on them) to gain a lot of power and influence here.

Theymos also does not like to debate. Especially if you start demonstrating his initial assumption (based on lack of bothering to examine evidence) is either wrong or certainly not accurate. He just vanishes and that's that.

So theymos 8/10  - ten for intentions being good , but room for implementational improvement for sure.

Ver appears to be more difficult to gage but seems willing to back scams - this we can not support in anyway. Especially when this was made clear and there were threads about those projects some from one of the best scam hunters here Bruno. If he was unaware before that is a possibility.

TLDR??

You don't have to directly censor yourself to be responsible for censorship. That is theymos's current issue. He needs to get on top of it.
Overall we think you can trust theymos on a personal level for sure.

If ver is allowing censorship then he is again open to criticism. Although why you can not mention the domain he owns is confusing. We have not used his forum and do not intend to. This is the prime forum for crypto and should remain so. That is why we need to make it a non hostile environment. We can only do that if if it is provably a fair and open environment where rules are applied equally to all members.

I am currently running several S17 56TH on 208V. I have randomly Amp Clamped over 20 of them at the lead wire coming from the Breaker. These units are pulling consistently 12 Amps. We all used to easily get away with using 12 gauge wire, particularly in our receptacle;e pigtails. ( so much easier to make them up ) I am rethinking this part of my grid build outs now. These new units are consistently into the double digit amperage's. I believe that 12 gauge COPPER wire can support these loads but due to the constant draw aspect of our game, it's a bit of a game of Russian Roulette as to when your wires heat up, and melt their clothing. IMHO, it's not worth the risk to save some sore fingers from twisting 10g to 10g during rig ups. 2 S17's on one 30amp Breaker gets you right at 24amps +/-. Perfectly at the 80% threshold. Run that on 10 gauge and you'll avoid that awful smell of burning electrical components. Oh....and also burning buildings.  ( side note; When I amp clamp th T17 38 th they always come in under 10 amps. Again, running 3ph, 208V )

NEVER BUY FROM PANGOLINMINER ANYMORE!!
they keep selling m20s for instant buyer with Usd4000 but dragging pre order customer stocks, if anyone ask in telegram about the issue, pangolinminer will delete the question and ban the user, that's why nobody complaint in telegram group, now August batch stock nobody receiving yet, if asking no1 will reply , this is how pangolinminer work.

These can be summed up in mining section, doesn't it?

You don't have to create new section for every new thing, it's just makes things cumbersome.

Start messaging them for compensation. It won't be much but you should be able to receive something. Starting the conversation now at least gives you an idea of where things are going.
Odds are though it will just be a promise to give you a deal in the future.