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161  Economy / Speculation / Re: ATH coming up? on: December 26, 2013, 09:41:53 PM
So he's just doing what we are all doing. Using Bitcoin for fiat profits.

Whoops... I was hoping to decimate fiat entirely.

I'll have to rethink my strategy now... thanks.

Lol so you don't care about USD price at all then?

Everything can be priced in everything else. I would be silly to ignore that fact.

I've quickly skimmed your post history and all you do is get giddy over Bitcoin USD price in the Speculation forum.

If you're a bitcoin purist looking to annihilate FIAT, you'd not be here talking about "traps" and "profits". You'd not care about USD value AT ALL.
162  Economy / Speculation / Re: ATH coming up? on: December 26, 2013, 09:38:26 PM
So he's just doing what we are all doing. Using Bitcoin for fiat profits.

Whoops... I was hoping to decimate fiat entirely.

I'll have to rethink my strategy now... thanks.

Lol so you don't care about USD price at all then?
163  Economy / Speculation / Re: ATH coming up? on: December 26, 2013, 09:31:15 PM
So some asian dude invests in a Bitcoin related company.

He did not invest in bitcoin

So he's just doing what we are all doing. Using Bitcoin for fiat profits. Don't delude yourself at this moment with "bitcoin is the next money coming this year". No. It's all speculation and FIAT profits.
164  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: XFX Radeon R9 280X Config on: December 26, 2013, 08:41:50 PM
Hey everybody, i am looking for a 3.8 version cgminer config file? Anybody got one they can toss my way? Also just maybe a guide i have two set up in crossfire all set up and running just need a config file looking to push over 1,200 k/h?


Use cgminer 3.5.1. AFAIK anything above 3.5 doesn't support scrypt anymore.
165  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MEOW] Kittehcoin launched ! Come get some MEOW now. U haz it! DOGE sad. on: December 26, 2013, 07:34:06 PM
Selling MEOW, 500k. PM me with your offers! No lowballs, kthx.
166  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why I think bitcoins are a bad investmen at these high prices. on: December 26, 2013, 04:50:49 PM

Something just does not add up to me with how the prices are and how high they have grown over such a short period of time.


I have been having doubts that the market is dirtier then it seemed first. Some points that I have been having doubts over:

1) 50%+ of bitcoins are actually held by a group of people who are communicating co-operating with eachother to get the most out of the market. I started having doubts when I saw that during certain times the bots seemed to work together in the same tune. All the bull and beartraps will go through without any solid opposition for some time periods. There are certain periods when the market actually looks like there is a rich vs poor competition, when actually the rich should stay in competition with eachother aswell.

2) The boom in China was simulated for the most part. The demand actually wasn't as big as the numbers show. This could have been done by rich players who bought and sold at the same time to simulate trade and demand to drive the price up. This could have been also done by simply giving out wrong market data.

Most of the community leaders and the dev team has no interest whatsoever to develop rules and regulations to protect the integrity of the market. But with this direction the market will get uglier and uglier every day and eventually it will cross a line when BTC will be called an overall scam. I think that Okcoin simulating the market data is just a tip of the iceberg and more scandals will come out regarding the dirty tricks that are used with the market. I have the biggest doubts about MtGox, since it is not just logical that they are so incompetent with the income they have with fees. It seems more likely that their incompetence is deliberate and a tool to manipulate the market for their own investment directions.


I'm just going to +1 this post.

Again, this doesn't mean we can't make profits, but right now it's delusional to say these are natural movements. It's making Bitcoin look like a joke.
167  Economy / Speculation / Re: Slightly bullish looking chart for first time since double top. on: December 26, 2013, 04:44:17 PM
For first time since double top, the Bitcoin chart (Bitstamp) has formed an ever so slightly bullish higher post bounce high.

Trending gradually and then spiking up to 735, taking out previous 720 post bounce high.

Perhaps the latest rumours from China (cash movement in and out of exchanges is possible again) are fuelling this, although volume is still very low.

Time for bears to change their outlook?

Well it did trend bullish for a while after the April crash. That landed about 50% lower of the slightly higher bounce, right down to the 70's.

Remember, everything is now still based upon China. People are ignorant, so the market trades on whatever the hell China does. The slightest bit of bad news from China again (banning vouchers, i mean come on, vouchers?, and banning privately taking cash for the exchange (huobi)) will send us crashing down again.

Still, as long as no bad news comes from China, expect to follow their lead --> high and faked volume rise to create a suckers rally. We'll see in the next week how high it goes..
168  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Catcoin - Scrypt meow! on: December 26, 2013, 04:06:42 PM
Selling 500 CAT for 0.5 BTC. PM me.
169  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Catcoin - Scrypt meow! on: December 26, 2013, 01:32:22 PM
Selling my 500 CAT for 0.5 BTC.

PM me.
170  Economy / Speculation / Re: So…it seems the Chinese are back on: December 26, 2013, 02:22:28 AM
Yep, this is how Bitcoin works now. Fuck global adoption and world changing Bitcoin related events.

BTC rollin' like:

Slightest hint of good news from China --> price goes to the moon momentarily
Slightest hint of bad China govt. related news --> epic crash to the depths of hell

It makes for easy trading but gosh, Bitcoin starts to look like a joke more and more.
171  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 26, 2013, 12:24:05 AM
Bitcoinity sometimes has bugs with regard to the market depths of exchanges, so I wouldn't rely on it. If this order book data is consistent with other sources however, it is certainly indicative of made up trades on their part.

Why trust any Chinese exchange, really? OkCoin has been confirmed to fake it, BTCChina's volume dropped like a ROCk once they implemented fees (= HF bots not being able to do their work anymore), and Huobi is offering 0% fees.

Have fun trading at fake prices. I like taking advantage off of this.
172  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 26, 2013, 12:18:31 AM
http://bitcoinity.org/markets/huobi/CNY

Maybe someone with time and will can even analyze this and expose suspicious data if there is any.

The scary thing about manipulation by exchanges is that they can only get more sophisticated, and eventually we won't be able to tell.

Look at that market depth. 300 BTC on the buy side orderbook, yet >1K BTC volume every hour? Hahahahah just say "OMG CHINA IS BUYING' and all the morons follow in high volume on the USD/EU exchanges. Doesn't matter I'm going to make money, but DAMN.
173  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 26, 2013, 12:15:19 AM
Any livecharts for Huobi?

EDIT// LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL http://bitcoinity.org/markets/huobi/CNY

Look at that market depth. 300 BTC on the buy side orderbook, yet >1K BTC volume every hour? Hahahahah just say "OMG CHINA IS BUYING' and all the morons follow in high volume on the USD/EU exchanges. Doesn't matter I'm going to make money, but DAMN.
174  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Catcoin - Scrypt meow! on: December 25, 2013, 10:29:24 PM
Ok, Redone the wallet splash and the about one. Should I show them here?

Yes, please do. Also I have a family member who can help the dev with the code. I PM'd kr105 but no response yet. It does seem like kr105 is in over his head, so it'd be nice to have a dev team at hand. The wallet should have been streamlined over 24 hours ago.
175  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Catcoin - Scrypt meow! on: December 25, 2013, 10:00:58 PM
100% USE THE LOGO FROM THE OP

I was blown away by that one. I want that in the client ASAP.

kR105, I PM'd you about possible co-developership. I have a family member who can help you out getting this out QUICKLY and clean.

I vouch for the logo from the original post.
176  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Catcoin - Scrypt meow! on: December 25, 2013, 04:56:05 PM
Selling 1000 CAT. PM me for offers. Will also send smaller parts.
177  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Catcoin - Scrypt meow! on: December 25, 2013, 01:16:18 PM
CATs can has moon??

Not exactly, DOGEs already has the moon. I can explain.
   Now financial market made from BTC, like most stable (more than 50% mined)
and conqered by bourgeoisie and business (ASICS, GhashIO, Winklevoss twins and so on).
   Market of alternative cryptocurrencyes now made from amateurs with ATI
videocards and peopels who doesn't mention BTC before ASICs.
Most of them are not financial specialists. So the market follows BTC.
   On the start of BTC small group of geeks work on "money of the future"
without serious hope in big income "The first step on TErraNova always was
made by the pioneer, next - businessman and the last will come official
bureaucracy to offer "gangster roof"(english not my native, i can't
translate it, its a slang, hope you understood the meaning) to the businessman".
   Now all of the alternative cryptocurrencies are not those "money of the future"
even not an investment asset, it's a tool of hope in easy money (catch and run).
So the value of currency will depends on how hard to mine the currency. But this
is momentary value. Let's try to calculate maximum possible value of currency
with respect to BTC.

   Maximum possible value of currency with respect to BTC on my opinion
can be calculated from expected emission per time unit at the start(let it be)
to get rid of some factors like redistribution of the market, growth of
the market, total count of coins in currency, growth of difficulty and so on.

   For example, BTC had 50coins per 10 minutes block at the start, so reference
expected emission will be 5 coins/minute(c/min) = 5BTC/min. LTC - 50 coins
per 2.5min = 20c/min. 20c/min it's 4 time faster than BTC so expected maximum value
will be BTC_value/4. BTC-e(now): BTC 660$, LTC 19$ => BTC/LTC = 660/19 = 34(if this
will fall to 4 it will means that LTC has the moon. Why such old(rather),
rather computing stable and much preferable in long term (scrypt is more cryptographic
resistant due adding salsa20/8) currency were so undervalued?
The ansewer is simple: watch before - amatures with ATI videocards (businessmen will
not allow simple people to receive their easy money).

   Now if we made this calculations on DOGE we get:
Doge expected emission: 1000000c/min => expected maximum value 5/1000000 =>
0.00000500 => 500satoshi ped DOGE. DOGE already has 100satoshies.

-------------------------------------------------------------
  DOGE 1/5 of max against LTC 1/34.
  And it is so even when DOGE not an absolute deflation
  "yearsterday launced" coin.
-------------------------------------------------------------


   I'm not have anythyng against DOGE, but suspect that DOGEs' creator is
professional finansist and dexterous swindler(probably the same if financist
is good specialist, don't hear about him anything, only know he is real
person not like Satshi, so let's him doesn't take offense). He build
almost dollar-scheme currency on fresh MTV promoted popular meme and the
most important thing: He made people believe that everyone can be
millionaire (yea dogecoin millionare:)), creating the illusion of wealseness
by increasing amount of coins. It's very fast coin so people think they are
early adopters, while they not real early adopters. Real early adopters mine
those coin at first 24 hour, get those milliards and sell them last friday at
150satoshi/coin while most of investors was shocked of amounts (applying
LTC/BTC scheme subconsciously). Doge has many signs of PumpAndDump cath and
run scheme. But now the time of traders, who buy it, they keep it alive now,
not miners (miners only provide technical base).

   The problem (relating to CAT) why i mention those multiple letters:
------------------------------------------------------------------
  CATcoin is the scrypt Bitcoin so it's
  expected max value(from calculations above) 1BTC
  (if blocks will goes at 10min)
------------------------------------------------------------------

   It's not mean that price will be 1BTC in near future.
I'm not a finantial specialist and my "expected max value" purely technicall
relative papameter.


   If CATcoin go to cryptsy (everyone want it), it may be strong underpriced,
because of different amounts against DOGE (undoubtedly the market will place
everything in places, but..). It can be supported by not tecnically
competent traders and "rats, which run from the ship" which want to sell all their
early mine to quicly take income (the "rats" is more sirious problem). Early
adopters must believe in CAT or at least show they believe or it will be CATastrophe.

The launch wasn't CATastrophe, i think it looks like perfectly directed intrigue.

  I think CATcoin don't need speculations now it needs promotion(doge made half of a deal)
and HASHRATE.
------------------------------------------------------------------
  CATcoin needs hashrate
------------------------------------------------------------------


P.S. How price (averege in the hospital) now?

That's all, hope i will not be banned by "doge lobby Shocked Lips sealed".





>Applying mathematical models in a free market

Try again.
178  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Catcoin - Scrypt meow! on: December 25, 2013, 12:40:35 PM

Doesn't matter if he liked it or not. Get him to edit the splashscreen to show it, and you'll get your royalties.
He asked me to give him the resized image so he can change the splashscreen. Cheesy

PM me when it's there.
179  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Catcoin - Scrypt meow! on: December 25, 2013, 11:33:58 AM
Quote from: Boxman90 link=topic=38 0130.msg4129997#msg4129997 date=1387931742
Proper IRC channel @ ##catcoin and wallet (with sync-fix) downloadable at https://github.com/catcoins/catcoin



Do you have the know-how to implement logo's etc? I'm willing to put a bounty on making the client nice with CAT logo's (the fancy one from TS is awesome) in conjunction with kR105.

If you can contact him and make this work, I'll put forth a bounty of 200 CAT.
I already made a wallet logo and  when im  on the PC i will send him the resized version  Roll Eyes
So i deserve art least some catcoins right?

Organize it with him and get the splashscreen and everything fixed, and you might be in for the logo.

If you designed the logo in the OP and you can prove it, I'll happily send you some CAT.
I designed this splash screen:
and OP liked it.

Doesn't matter if he liked it or not. Get him to edit the splashscreen to show it, and you'll get your royalties.
180  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / [WTS] 150 Catcoins on: December 25, 2013, 10:25:55 AM
Selling 150 Catcoins. Asking 0.15 BTC. PM me.
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