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161  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PAK] PakCoin - Pakistan's Crypto Currency - Official Thread on: June 17, 2017, 12:34:01 PM
I wonder how the people of Pakistan and their government would feel about PAK Coin. I wonder if it will reach parity with the PKR.
162  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [USDe] Unitary Status Dollar eCoin $$ IMPROVED Halving | KGW Fix Update!!! on: June 16, 2017, 08:50:54 PM
Is there a new developer out there?
163  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] FedoraCoin (TiPS) - New Dev team: Fedoracoin Foundation on: June 16, 2017, 07:13:07 PM
I want to see 1,000-10,000 satoshi price. We'll see!
164  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] FedoraCoin (TiPS); New style, new services, same unique features on: June 16, 2017, 06:24:25 PM
I would like to maintain a standard of 10,000 TiPS = 1 Fedora  Grin

You not alone, lets keep it going.

I want to see 1,000-10,000 satoshi price. We'll see!

That's pretty optimistic for a coin that hasn't move its chain for 12 weeks.

What? The chain is moving, blocks are being mined: all is well. It's not any more strange than these other similar old scrypt coins hitting these prices. Great opportunity to buy in cheap.
165  Economy / Speculation / Re: ITT: We laugh at idiot HODLers [OFFICIAL THREAD] on: June 15, 2017, 09:03:44 PM
Haha your coin is down by 1 cent you idiot, why didnt you sell
166  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 15, 2017, 05:05:11 PM
It's a sight to behold.  Cheesy
167  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: HoboNickels - HBN - High Fast Stake - Version 1.5. Come on in the water's fine! on: June 14, 2017, 06:51:42 PM
HoboNickels is a great project. If we fall into a crypto dystopia I promise I will tip the poor souls sleeping in the streets a few HoboNickels.
168  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: RIP Poloniex Trollbox on: June 14, 2017, 06:22:04 PM


Quote Me I'm a Newb
169  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: TrumpCoin [TRUMP] - *OFFICIAL THREAD* Funding Projects Domestically & WorldWide on: June 14, 2017, 06:11:32 PM
God Emperor Donald John Trump President of our United States of America, Making America so Great Puerto Rico wants to join. Trump Bless.  Cheesy
170  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] FedoraCoin (TiPS) - New Dev team: Fedoracoin Foundation on: June 14, 2017, 05:57:51 PM
I would like to maintain a standard of 10,000 TiPS = 1 Fedora   Grin
171  Economy / Speculation / Re: Are we going to 5,000 $/btc ? on: June 14, 2017, 12:38:12 AM
I personally think bitcoin will increase but not expecting $5000 by this year without any big events. I think $5000 in 2018.

Its pumped super fast over the past weeks and doubled in under a month. Assuming that happens again, or even if it pumps much slower I don't see why $5000 won't happen this year.

That's a big assumption. Bitcoin could be valued much higher already and probably would be if it were going to go up to $5,000 this year. I think this 3k price we recently reached was way too much about 2x the real value. $900-$1300 was where we left the ground. USDT manipulation and disallowing of withdraws on bitfinex and more.... caused a bunch of illogical market action that grew into exuberance and irrationality as new people came on board. Exchanges have become more comfortable with big risk because their users are carrying their huge risk burden by default.

I hope a bear makes a killing. These last 3 months have been fishy as hell and I know they like fish.
172  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: the korean are fake pump etherium volumes on: June 14, 2017, 12:23:49 AM
Just like the Chinese fake pump Bitcoin volume last couple years,. coinmarketcap.com shouldn't lists/count these korean fake exchanges, this poor little country don't even know what is crypto, don't even exist last year,
http://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/volume/24-hour/

These fake korean etherorium volume on bithump and coinone are just laughable, it's almost half of current real volume for etholium. There is no credential or fair playing field with crypto anymore, it is all about money even the team them self involving lying, cheating, manipulating, spreading fud... now is just a mess

perhaps the government of these countries of Russia and Korea even involved of pumping bloat etherium, crypto is getting big and more crazier! These cr00ks dishonest Asian and russian cuntries bastards keep finding ways to cheat, lol, just kidding  Grin


How are they fake? Can you explain please.

Exchange owners have access to the back-end and can sell their own coin to themselves a million times at varying prices to give the impression of security, market confidence, and worst of all the illusion that exchanges are capable of handling crypto to fiat trades without crashing the coin prices.

People own vouchers that they use to calculate their estimated fiat value based off of current exchange prices but unless they cash in when the time is right, all they will have is a voucher.
173  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: RIP Poloniex Trollbox on: June 14, 2017, 12:11:37 AM
So does anyone know if indefinitely means its never coming back or just coming back once they are back on their feet?

Indefinitely means never never, it is gone forever.
174  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is hoarding bitcoins good or bad for it's growth? on: June 13, 2017, 05:09:52 PM
It's good until it's bad. Growth. In price? Usage?

A ton are locked and will never be redeemed because of deaths, lost keys, etc.

I think there are less people trading crypto willing to hold them forever (rain or shine) than many expect as well.

When sales hit the exchanges you don't see the full extent of every price movement. 1k sell on one chart may have  really been a 5-10k btc sell on multiple exchanges or even more complex sells could be going on involving altcoins.


There's the tangible then the intangible and the tangible is still going to be the most important thing, you can re-aquire bitcoins at whatever price it happens to be. If you have something tangible you offer more than simply a voucher for tangible things.

When people hold, they believe they will earn more for holding and thus don't redeem their vouchers. When they don't redeem they perceive themselves to have gained or lost value based off the current market price. In actuality their initial holding is still denominated in a "coin" asset and until they successfully find someone to purchase that asset at whatever price they are using to value their holding their holding does not actually have any proof it will be capable of fetching that price on an open market by the time it is redeemed.

Market action can happen quick because all of the money on exchanges is hyper liquid. If you hold your coins for a long time, you might not want to trust exchanges but wallets can be slow. You must be in sync and be capable of securing your keys to redeem. Syncing can take hours, or tens of minutes if you haven't opened in 2 weeks or a month or longer. Then you need to have your transaction processed by the network and be credited by the exchange before finally selling your voucher on the market.

Exchange operators and really advanced traders will follow the margin markets on btc whichever way they go and when it goes it will go sharp. It could break up more but I think a huge short is going to wreck this bull-market eventually.

Many people are naive about how this market actually operates.
175  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 13, 2017, 04:34:54 PM
HAS THE WHOLE WORLD GONE INSANE?!?!?!?!  Huh  Roll Eyes  Grin
176  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 13, 2017, 03:34:30 PM
In the future we will be sucking our entire sun energy to mine a tiny fraction of the already existing 21 mill of bitcoins, while a fleet of mining space ships will be dumping tons of fresh infinite precious metals in the market.  Shocked

Good Joke, I laughed.
177  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: RIP Poloniex Trollbox on: June 13, 2017, 06:26:24 AM
trollbox was removed so everyone stays calm as they slowly drop bitcoin back to $1200 while ETH drops into oblivion
178  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: TrumpCoin [TRUMP] - *OFFICIAL THREAD* Funding Projects Domestically & WorldWide on: June 13, 2017, 06:17:05 AM
And when the American Public Find out the Trumps are actually behind this coin they will freak out.  Cheesy

Any proof of this claim?

Proof? It's 2017. Proof is for shmucks! Grin

Sock puppet accounts opened just to hype a coin on unsubstantiated claims is for shmucks!

Just because I'm new doesn't mean I'm a sock puppet. Stop being so presumptuous. It was a joke.
179  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: TrumpCoin [TRUMP] - *OFFICIAL THREAD* Funding Projects Domestically & WorldWide on: June 13, 2017, 05:50:28 AM
And when the American Public Find out the Trumps are actually behind this coin they will freak out.  Cheesy

Any proof of this claim?

Proof? It's 2017. Proof is for shmucks! Grin
180  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will we ever see bitcoin lower than 1000$? on: June 13, 2017, 05:41:42 AM
If it went back below $1000 I wouldn't be all too surprised honestly but I'm not betting on it in the immediate future.
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