It's lacking a few thing's that I see.  We really could use info like what miner's he's running and number of miner's.   As different miner's could be a huge difference in watt's used and heat.   

A picture of setup and further specifications would let us know a lot more.  I personally have always positioned miners horizontally never have had the need to try vertical setup.   With my mining area horizontal works just fine no performance issue's.  I do use a decent amount of CFM's though during midwest heat during summer to keep gear cool.   So vertical setup.... very much depends on your setup.  Have not seen a decent sized mining area use vertical setup that I can think of though.

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Dang... interesting reading this after getting home from a conference.  I had been keeping up with price but had not been watching difficulty.   Happy to see a negative most likely.   I wonder if some gear is finally coming offline.    I keep thinking it will happen... but seems slow.

Either way it's a win if we can keep BTC price stable and get a negative.  I would consider that a good difficulty period for sure.

So are the 4.1's they are dated at this point.  I don't have free electricity unfortunately or I would have kept them.  They were only miner I actually got asked multiple times if I did anything to video I had posted to make it that quiet... and I had not.  Was a while before my mining area when I was still having miners all around the house.

I think them being bought out might be a indication they have something ready to come out.   But I don't want to get any hopes up as we don't know after being purchased if still will do sell's to small miners.   Also having chips and getting a miner out are two different things bitfury has shown this.

Had a good trip recently to a conference.   With being busy there and lack of secure connection ended up not making it on board much last week.   Just kinda catching up now.

Happy to see Bitcoin_BOy$ on here.   What issues are being addressed specifically if it's ok to ask?  Either way glad to have some time home and have time to catch back up on the forum.

I'm wondering the same if finally some miners are going offline.  I thought leading up to halving we would see a lot bigger increase which I was happily wrong on. Really it is pretty pretty slow on dropping off on old gear.   I would really like to see drop off how much is home/hobby miners vs big miners.  If you think about it a lot of these bigger mines spent a good amount of money upfront for info structure (cooling, wiring, etc).    So it would make sense they might re-invest.

I am happy with BTC price though it's been pretty steady.   No big drop off on value side has been a great thing for those long term holding. 

It mean's it actually helps with something.  Has substance and introduces something new to thread.  If your saying something like "I agree this helps!" or something like that it is not a post with quality.   Post's do have to be in English (unless certain forums) but your quality on that seems fine.  But if you type English that makes no sense... or in different language where it should be English yes likely deleted.

But again I stress read the rules that are official and unofficial I mentioned above: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0 .  If you follow that and are not spamming trying to get post count... chances are you will do fine.

It seems kinda crazy on it.  The second link of coin... seemed like another forum type group with a LOT less people/activity.   Not sure why you would want to go from the most active bitcoin forum to one with much less activity.  This forum just has a ton of great info, and a lot of it is in multiple posts as people tend to ask same questions over time.

The first link did not work for me... but looked at site seems to be a messaging app.  Looks like a possible chat like program? Correct me if I'm wrong but not sure how it is going to make getting started any easier then forum's.  And really getting started is SO  broad we need to know getting started to.... Is it just BTC in general, mining, holding, wallet selection, etc.  Just a almost infinite amount of things it could be getting started with.

Thanks for sharing!  Truly a impressive mining area love that it is in a actual server room.  Is that a hosting center? Or is it something you managed to get privately.

Just curious as if your ran S5/SP20 this long... makes me think you have found some place with great electricity pricing.  Either way thanks for sharing pics!

That is one of the worst damaged boards that I have seen that was not on fire.  One heatsink falling off can damage a board.  And seeing damaged boards with some heatsinks off and some moved I don't think it is going to be fixable. How much water got on these miners and PSU's?

What part on PSU are you thinking will be fixable?   I just think water going through them most likely is catastrophic failure you don't come back from.  I hope I'm wrong and you can fix them though.

It tends to be full member on biggest payjump.  I personally would not worry about joining a signature campaign till you hit it.  Some do it earlier... but they will not get a whole lot.  Due to many factor's new account's just don't get paid a ton.   If your having fun on forum you will not notice it I personally did not even look into it till hero as I was so into mining.  Looking back I should have done a little earlier... but hard to get mad as I enjoyed the forum even when not paid.  So paid or not I will still be here.

Kinda the scary part if you look in beginner forum is amount asking about earning quick or signature campaign.  If you come into forum and your main goal is getting paid off posts.... good chance you will be heading twords a bad.  Use your lower rank's as time to learn how to make good and helpful post's, and also equally as important learn the rules of the forum and how to follow them.  I can't stress enough how important it is to read - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0

I would make sure to say that this is what could happen IF it is in dictionary.  Creating it you obviously used a passphrase in your dictionary.  I suggest making it more clear if it is not in dictionary... it can be much longer and in some cases impossible (realistically) to recovery.

You don't have to make a huge change even "TeamBits - Bitcoin Wallet Recovery Tool" sounds a ton better, takes away a lot of the bad stigma with "cracker".   Also I suggest showing virus scans online such as virus total showing if they find "bad things" in your software I suggest a few well known online virus scan's. 

Web wallets are not the best for all people though.  If you are storing a large amount of  coins a offline solution is much better.  With web wallets it is a hot wallet, so chance of bad things.  Yes some have very good history... but always "could" happen.

Some offline storage like hardware wallets are going to up security huge compared to web wallet.  But they do cost money, so no everyone like's them so I can understand that.  But paper wallets are also a great option, and you can do them for free.  Just make sure you do it securely and on a "safe" computer as if computer is compromised you do it on could be giving private key right to "bad guy's".

Not sure if your trolling but reporting really does help.  There are accounts out there that just troll... getting rid of those comments helps forum.  Also there is a lot of spam sometimes a website makes multiple account's and post's crap posts to promote.   And there are some post that are so bad they add what I call one liners like "I agree good info!".   This is just some of the utter crud that pop's up.

I think reporting is a good thing for the forum's.   We don't know what they reported in this... but for them to agree chances are it was utter crap posts.  So I would say it helps forum  greatly having a lot report post's (assuming they are correctly reporting).

You only quoted half of my comment.  The bold part I do not disagree with it is entire reason for part of my post you did not quote.  S3 and S7 are massively different miner's.  Just look at watt's S3 366ish and S7 depending on batch 1293ish .   So were talking like three times the amount of watt's  which means more heat. :


Yes you can do things to make it quieter like you mentioned.   But before doing all of this I would do some ROI math as S7 + building a decent cabinet to dampen heat that does not heat up crazy will not make sense for a lot of people.  All depends on electricity.

I hope you are a troll account having no history.  But this is the sad part of almost all cloud mining sites.  They make it look profitable the first one's in might even make a profit.  But eventually most cut and run.  Hashflare is one that it seems recently has been mentioned more in newbie area.  Personally I'm not sure it is not a gorilla tactic of alt's doing it. 

But I hate to deliver bad news is with difficulty going to rise you will never see all of your investment back.   Chances are there will come a point where maintenance costs more you make... so this means you receive nothing.   And there is not real proof hashflare ever had gear is where it get's worse in my eyes (at least none I have seen).  But chances are they did all of this simulating mining with no gear. 

Also NEVER trust the site's ROI calculator that you are investing in they profit for it to be bad.  Can you point to which calculator you used?  Having was known it was going to having... should have known it before investing.  I do feel sorry for you but if anyone is going go cloud mining honestly go hashnest as it is only one I would trust.  Also there is no guarantee of ROI, but with hashnest you do stand a chance is how I like to put it.

There are a TON of usb sticks that I think turned into collector's items.  Even today people spend way to much for asic miner stick's.  They were smart making multiple color's as it seems there are people that want to collect them all.  But as far as how many are shown as decoration vs mining it's impossible to say.  We really have no clue of how much of any miner is on the network.

I personally sold off a lot of my usb stick's.  I did lotto mine with compac's for a while there are still people using them.  I sold all but three I kept a prototype, reviewer unit, and production model.   I need to get them back up but other project's have taken priority.  On a side note we lost a little bit of gain we had on price.  Coinbase went down to 672 hopefully we can get it back up to 680 again.

I still really like bitwisdom, I hope they fix the block reward as I do agree it's a shame to have old number there.  But there is a manual fix you can do right now to use it just go to the "Block Reward" and change it to current.  That should fix it where everything is working correctly I belive.

One thing to make sure to include in figures is cooling aswell.  With it being summer I do run some fan's in my mining area that really help keep the temp down.  I do not live where evaporation cooling works due to climate, so stuck with high CFM's pushing that heat.  Then I use a professional gable fan to get it out of my mining area.   But all this can add up so make sure to include it when calculating ROI.

Would love to see some pictures of the 300TH of S5/SP20 that is a good amount of gear.  Do you have any pictures that you don't mind sharing?  Also out of curiosity how did you sell them off did you find one big buyer or have to do a ton of little sells?

Sounds like very cool though.  Best of luck with it all.

For me it's a hobby and a investment.  I have spent a decent amount to get my mining area up to par where I can run quite a bit of gear in it as far as hobby mining goes.   But luckily a lot of it is initial investment's.     I am in it for the long term though I try  to hold most of mining, selling for electricity as it does add up.

But to be able to "live off your bitcoin mining income".  There are so many factors we would need to know how much you have in cost's to live.  For most mining as main job is not going to happen.  It is a nice side income but it is rather long term on ROI, so it does take a while.  The ones that cannot make profit are due to electricity in most cases, some VAT/import taxes can also kill it.  But still many that can make profit just takes a while.

What seems to happen with cloud mining is a site will come up and target new user's.  Promise great ROI and use alt's to spread it on forum and telll how great they are.  But fact is sadly almost all cloud mining is scam or ended bad.   Just not a good track record out there for them.

Only one I send people to anymore is Hashnest, it is as legit as it get's on cloud mining.  There is no guarantee of ROI but you stand a honest chance at it.  That being said I know some have held off hoping for S9 on it..... no clue when that happens though.