Note: After reading through these threads it is clear this discussion/request has turned in to Political Statement about Open Source and trying to prove something.
Or free hardware requests disguised as political statements  j, people are only asking for sources here. Nobody is demanding that a free unit be sent to anyone. Yes, historically devs have received hardware and provided support in return, but that doesn't mean that requests for source are requests for hardware (especially since multiple people want sources for different reasons). Someone saying "if I get hardware then I'll definitely support it" does not imply "I expect to get hardware [if code is released]". Why must you make this claim? Are you trying to draw attention away from the fact that you are in the best position to request sources, yet you refuse to do so? A license like the GPL is meaningless if it isn't actively enforced. You can "play nice" by politely requesting a speedy source release from your position as a customer. Saying "oh, give it 30 days" is not playing nice; that is essentially disregarding the violation. |
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What's not clear is how any slip in the bumping facility schedule will affect the other steps. Josh said they'd give people at least 7 days notice to ship back their FPGAs, so that should happen in the next couple of days if they're going to meet the 22 February target date.
I'm guessing that they're waiting for a chip to get to an engineer to perform functional tests. |
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The one thing I don't understand in all this flameage is why Jeff Garzik isn't championing the request for source from Avalon. Jeff?
After certain people made that task considerably more difficult? It is difficult to summon the motivation. Ask again in 30 days... Actually, can you post the cgminer binary? 1 satoshi says I can reverse engineer most of their changes before they release the source. |
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will do once organized, We have no intention to not disclose the source code.
Only to violate the license just a little bit? |
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Competent semiconductor manufacture engineer can with the help of changing clock frequency and supply voltage obtain a highly proprietary data in a completely non-destructive way (no chip desoldering, decaping, etc.) I do see what you're saying now, but you're still assuming that fine-grained control of individual chip frequencies and voltages (since you'll have a hard time getting good data if you can only do a whole board of 80? chips at once) exists within the modded cgminer and not an FPGA/MCU blob and also that this can't be trivially replicated by monitoring the usb-serial comms and also that someone actually has an Avalon unit (lol) that they don't mind risking for the tests (lol) and also that someone actually cares that much about this data to go to the effort at all. It's a bit of a long limb, especially since Avalon wouldn't have picked GPL code if this was a serious concern (or they're license violating assholes, but PL has assured us that they aren't). |
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getting free hardware because you commit some code.
If you keep repeating this, it may become true! Maybe try tapping your heels together to increase the odds. |
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Again, I'm just quoting for future reference because No, you're quoting because you actually think that someone would bother to go back and edit their post after you (literally or figuratively) school them using your vast intellect, and that they wouldn't be able to face being humiliated by you. Since you think that this is reasonable behavior, I shall do the same. When Avalon is going to disclose their voltage regulator and clock synthesizer programming information it will allow competent people to obtain very detailed information about TSMC process used. Quoted, because it seems like you actually believe that detailed information about TSMC's processes exists in the modded cgminer. |
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When Avalon is going to disclose their voltage regulator and clock synthesizer programming information What the actual fuck. Why would fine-grained details about TSMC's manufacturing nodes be present in the modified cgminer? |
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I mean kjj is kinda lost-cause here, he isn't even aware that he's at a poker table and laying your cards for all to see is not a winning strategy. Yeah, how dare he request that they release the mask sets for their ASICs. At least ask for something more reasonable like the GPL'ed mining software. |
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Anybody tell me how can find the cgminer random functions interface?
i want to use my QRNG
There is no randomness in mining. Value getwork(const Array& params, bool fHelp)
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static CReserveKey reservekey(pwalletMain);
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pblocktemplate = CreateNewBlock(reservekey);
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key.MakeNewKey(fCompressed);
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if (!EC_KEY_generate_key(pkey))
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if (!BN_rand_range(priv_key, order))
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BN_rand_range() generates a cryptographically strong pseudo-random number rnd in the range 0 <lt>= rnd < range. BN_pseudo_rand_range() does the same, but is based on BN_pseudo_rand(), and hence numbers generated by it are not necessarily unpredictable. Checkmate. |
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Maybe jgarzik is kinda out of touch with the mining side of things, and with the role which kano has played in maintaining and improving cgminer for us all? Kano is not after free hardware,
Where oh where did cgminer come from, originally? hmmm. Nobody fucking cares about getwork/cpu mining anymore. cpuminer is a toy for people who want to lol at their linksys router mining at 20khash. considering how much has been rewritten/replaced with something less shitty, cgminer might as well have been forked from windows 98. |
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even before kano began his transparent quest for free hardware Jesus fuck. I actually thought at the time that shipping one of their two units to you was a good thing. I hate being proven wrong. |
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I don't see why they have to redistribute anything
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Trying to get a open platform to market. An "open platform" is not one where you grudgingly comply with the GPL and take weeks and weeks to release source after shipping. Here's a product line which is truly open: https://www.olimex.com/Products/OLinuXino/They have schematics and sources up for products that haven't even been released yet. |
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Be prepared for CNY surprises soon:) hot news are knocking on the door
Yeah, it sucks how the whole US practically shuts down at CNY. |
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Well, I officially called it, but I honestly thought "weeks" would be an exaggeration at the time. |
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it is however still the reason why we can't just push the repo to a public git somewhere Yes you can. Add a warning saying "run XYZ and your unit will be fucked", then push it. Done. |
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the source code release is set for this weekend on our project timeline at the moment. All of it, or just the first two lines? |
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Well, Like or hate BFL they are bringing Luke-Jr and Kanoi in, for a entire week.
Is it really a good idea to have both of them at the same place at the same time?  |
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You are pissed off because we haven't got around to release source code yet Your arrogance is fucking astounding. You're practically taking a steaming shit on the GPL by holding back the source. How about you spend less time trolling and more time releasing the fucking source code? |
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