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161  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I made the effort to call PayPal and ask about BItcoin - CRYPTO NOT ALLOWED on: January 24, 2016, 05:21:03 PM
Well I can understand that Bitcoin is a very grey area so they are not ready to implement that yet (hopefully this starts to change after Wences Casares from Xapo starts working after being named to Paypal's board). However I find it really unfair to suspend or ban accounts just for buying Bitcoin. I've actually done this myself once but nothing happened luckily. A warning email about the dangers of it would be more than enough.

It's not only bitcoin though, from what I understand, it's any type of currency exchanges.
162  Economy / Lending / Re: Need 0,035btc loan,i have colaterall on: January 22, 2016, 04:56:06 PM
Could you post links to the account profiles?
163  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: AllGoodsBTC scam on: January 22, 2016, 04:26:29 PM
Looks like he is back online selling again...

He hasn't replied to my post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1325618.msg13609775#msg13609775

But has posted after: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1325618.msg13640791#msg13640791

Definite scammer. His thread has been locked too, stay away from doing any transactions with him.
164  Economy / Reputation / Re: ►►►►►HumanResources is Islamic State(IS) MUST READ,Save this forum!◄◄◄ on: January 22, 2016, 04:22:27 PM
To the OP who wrote this, please PM me, even with your alt account if you must, all of this will remain confidential, I've always had this suspicion.
I'd like to do much more in-depth research on this.
165  Economy / Trading Discussion / I made the effort to call PayPal and ask about BItcoin - CRYPTO NOT ALLOWED on: January 22, 2016, 04:09:20 PM
TL:DR

PAYPAL DOES NOT ALLOW EXCHANGES WITH ANY CURRENCY, YOUR ACCOUNT CAN BE BANNED


So I've been reading about Spoetnik's trust abuse, and I've saw that it's related to PayPal. So being curious me, wanting to end the trust warfare, I decided to look at PayPal's ToS,  I couldn't find anything directly, so I decided to drop their support and email, I asked whether or not I was allowed to use PayPal to buy or sell bitcoin. The next day I got a call from PayPal and I spoke to one of their representatives. Her answer to my question was no. PayPal no longer allows any virtual currency due to "security risks".

I asked her to forward me a written confirmation,  I will be taking out any personal information. This Is what I got from her.

Email before our call:
Quote
Jan
20
PayPal Customer Support
RE: MyAccount (ID: [MY Account ID here])
* To view the entire message on a separate window, click Print then select Cancel.

 

Dear [MY NAME],

 


I hope you are doing well today. My name is [PAYPAL REPRESENTATIVE] from PayPal Customer Service. I understand that you need assistance with using cryptocurrency on your PayPal account. I am happy to assist you today.
 

 

PayPal discontinued the use of  virtual currency such as Bitcoin for security purposes, I am glad to inform you that South African payPal account allows you to make an online purchase using a credit or cheque card.

 

To help you, I have outlined the steps below on how you link your card on your PayPal account.

Log in to your PayPal account.
Click Profile near the top of the page.
Click My money.
Click Update (if you are adding an additional card) or Add my card (if you have no other cards linked to your PayPal account) beside Debit and credit cards.
Click Add a Card.
Select the Card Type and enter the required information.
Click Add Card.
 

We'll be glad to hear from you if you need clarification or assistance. Please don't hesitate to email us again. You can also call us at 0861-729-725 (local South African number) or +1-402-517-4519 (U.S. telephone number) Monday to Friday, 9:00 AM to 5:30 PM local South African time.

 


Thank you for choosing PayPal. Have a great day!


Sincerely,

[PAYPAL REPRESENTATIVE]
PayPal,
Copyright © 1999-2016  PayPal. All rights reserved.


The Email after our call:
Quote
Jan
21
PayPal Customer Support
PayPal Cosnumer Support
* To view the entire message on a separate window, click Print then select Cancel.

 

Dear [ME],

 


I hope you are doing well today. My name is [PAYPAL REPRESENTATIVE from PayPal Customer Service.

 

It was my pleasure speaking with you today [ME], according to the PayPal Acceptable Use Policy updated on July 1, 2015, using bitcoin to transfer or “top-up” Paypal is “illegal,” as it violates one of the terms of the official policy:

 

“You may not use the PayPal service for activities that relate to transactions that involve currency exchanges or check cashing businesses”

 

Although many exchanges and bitcoin payment service providers claim bitcoin-to-paypal transfer service is legitimate and “legal,” it clearly violates one of the terms of the PayPal Acceptable Use Policy regarding currency exchange.

 

Technically, Paypal users are not allowed to exchange Paypal balance for digital currencies and bitcoin users cannot exchange the digital currency for Paypal balance. Over the past few months, Paypal has abruptly closed many Paypal accounts suspected of bitcoin and cryptocurrency trades.

 

The legality of bitcoin-to-paypal transaction services offered by leading exchange is still left undecided. However, the Paypal team asserts through its terms and conditions that all bitcoin / digital currency related activities are banned.

 

We'll be glad to hear from you if you need clarification or assistance. Please don't hesitate to email us again. You can also call us at 0861-729-725 (local South African number) or +1-402-517-4519 (U.S. telephone number) Monday to Friday, 9:00 AM to 5:30 PM local South African time.


 


Thank you for choosing PayPal. Have a great day!


Sincerely,


[PAYPAL REPRESENTATIVE],
PayPal,
Copyright © 1999-2016  PayPal. All rights reserved.


 
 
Consumer Advisory - PayPal Pte Ltd, the Holder of the PayPal  payment service stored value facility, does not require the approval of the Monetary Authority of Singapore. Consumers (users) are advised to read the terms and conditions carefully.


Here the PayPal ToS states that:
https://www.paypal.com/us/webapps/mpp/ua/acceptableuse-full
Quote
relate to transactions that (a) show the personal information of third parties in violation of applicable law, (b) support pyramid or ponzi schemes, matrix programs, other "get rich quick" schemes or certain multi-level marketing programs, (c) are associated with purchases of annuities or lottery contracts, lay-away systems, off-shore banking or transactions to finance or refinance debts funded by a credit card, (d) are for the sale of certain items before the seller has control or possession of the item, (e) are by payment processors to collect payments on behalf of merchants, (f) are associated with the sale of traveler's checks or money orders, (g) involve currency exchanges or check cashing businesses, (h) involve certain credit repair, debt settlement services, credit transactions or insurance activities, or (i) involve offering or receiving payments for the purpose of bribery or corruption.


I hope this clears up any doubts, aggressive behaviour or any inappropriate behaviour. Spoetnik, I may have proved your point in a way, but please act in a civil manner.
166  Economy / Reputation / Re: The BCT PGP/GPG Public Key Database: Stake Your PGP Key Here on: January 21, 2016, 01:19:28 PM


Thanks encrypted, appreciate it!

fingerprint:   7545D2326E4AAC8EBAE18BF776CF0ECEC39644F5
curl/raw:   keybase.io/CrackedLogic/key.asc

Please paste the public key here within the "code".

fingerprint:   7545D2326E4AAC8EBAE18BF776CF0ECEC39644F5
curl/raw:   keybase.io/CrackedLogic/key.asc

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167  Economy / Services / Re: Looking to rent my signature - Hero member -1,920 posts-> 70 posts/week 0.05 BTC on: January 20, 2016, 07:07:19 PM

0.05 BTC per week for 70 posts. first one takes it.

Are you asking for $0.05 in btc or 0.05btc?

0.05 BTC SORRY :d

Damn, thought I struck a deal here Cheesy
168  Economy / Services / Re: Looking to rent my signature - Hero member -1,920 posts-> 70 posts/week 0.05 BTC on: January 20, 2016, 07:01:42 PM

$0.05 BTC per week for 70 posts. first one takes it.

Are you asking for $0.05 in btc or 0.05btc?
169  Economy / Services / Re: Moderator positions for bubblesbit.com on: January 20, 2016, 04:27:12 PM
I'm interested, however, my current timezone is gmt +2. PM me if you're interested, I can act as a floater if necessary.
170  Economy / Services / Re: 0.04 BTC for using referral link on: January 20, 2016, 04:20:01 PM
If you're going to do this, use an escrow for that 0.01btc, if you delete this message, we'll assume you have intentions of scamming.
This page is going to be archived.
171  Economy / Reputation / Re: The BCT PGP/GPG Public Key Database: Verify Before You Click "Send". on: January 20, 2016, 03:53:23 PM
Founder
satoshi

Staffs
Mitchełł

Hero Members
Shorena
Redsn0w
Crackedlogic

Sr. Members
chronicsky

Full Members
Gisado

Thanks encrypted, appreciate it!

fingerprint:   7545D2326E4AAC8EBAE18BF776CF0ECEC39644F5
curl/raw:   keybase.io/CrackedLogic/key.asc
172  Economy / Digital goods / Re: [WTS] Bitcoin, crypto, mining etc related domains on: January 20, 2016, 03:37:55 PM
Are you looking to buy some domains too?

Not at the moment - had registered quite a bit, so need to sell first



Okay no problem, give me a shout if you're looking for anything.
173  Economy / Reputation / Re: A new kind of trust farmers? on: January 20, 2016, 03:26:29 PM
Feedback on loans should be given as neutral, or possibly a specific loan dedicated feedback rating.
174  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: AllGoodsBTC scam on: January 20, 2016, 03:16:10 PM
I wonder if he's going to come back online, I doubt he will, it looks like he just made the account for scamming, when did that chat happen? - Date Registered:   January 08, 2016, 06:00:20 PM
Last Active:   January 19, 2016, 10:07:16 PM,
-whenever you do any deals, please, ALWAYS use escrow.
175  Economy / Digital goods / Re: [WTS] Bitcoin, crypto, mining etc related domains on: January 20, 2016, 03:10:50 PM
Are you looking to buy some domains too?
176  Other / Archival / Re: [Selling] Method To Get Unlimited $120 Bing Coupons on: January 20, 2016, 01:34:46 PM
i will give one review copy to crackedlogic ,

We'll see how this goes, I'll post results after I review it.
177  Economy / Digital goods / Re: Amazon & Starbucks Gift Cards & iTunes & Google Play & XBOX GC - 50% off.. on: January 19, 2016, 08:21:11 PM
Proof of purchase for these cards?
178  Economy / Digital goods / Re: Guide how to make alot of $$$ with Twitter handles Simple no Effort [ VOUCHED ] on: January 19, 2016, 08:19:37 PM
I'm not sure if I've missed it, but I can't find any feedback from your vouches?
We have no vouch and no positive feedback from any one about this method OP need to post any solid proof of income from this method
Judging by this earlier post, it looks like he just adds content and followers(with methods that are easily found by a simple search) to the account and sells them off, this is can be done easily but not on this forum for sure unless you're selling techy/crypto-related handles with a large amount of followers.
Proof Of Earnings?
My proof earning here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1324264.0
I'm not comfortable sharing my bank earning to the world.
179  Other / Archival / Re: [Selling] Method To Get Unlimited $120 Bing Coupons on: January 19, 2016, 08:14:15 PM
im out of stock now ,i need 3 days to give someone 120$  coupon, i have $50 left choose someone i can give him the coupon .

No, we're not asking for you to give out the coupons, we're asking for you to give your method to a reputable member for validation.
180  Other / Archival / Re: [Selling] Method To Get Unlimited $120 Bing Coupons on: January 19, 2016, 07:36:24 PM
155UE here is http://hpics.li/23096f5 after redeeming the coupons i get 120$ in the accounts , and i give all updates new offers 100$ coupon 200$ , also i have a thread on another forum with reviews but i dont know if it s okay to post the link of the other forum here .

Post it, you're allowed to.
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