I'm glad you're willing to do this, but you don't have enough Trust for me. Most reputable Escrows aren't willing to cover PayPal transactions with newer members as well. Thank you for offering.

I require $70 in PayPal funds. I bought an MP from a trusted user, but due to some sketchy person giving me a bad MP code in the past, my PayPal will no longer accept MPs.

I would be really appreciative if a Trusted user could buy $70 of BTC from me @ Mt. Gox average. Gotta top up my PP for some fees that are coming my way in a day or two.

I have no problems sending first to Trusted users.

Yeah, no one is going to send you anything with a 5-10 day waiting period. That's just insane, even for taking PayPal.

I will translate what you just said in the OP at no charge.

1: You PM/e-mail me and tell me how many bitcoins you want to buy. (If the person were to ask YOU how many bitcoins THEY want to buy, you'd just say 1000.)

2: Exactly as you said.

3: As you said.

4: I will withdraw the PP funds to my linked bank account. If I am a scammer, I have gotten my payday and I will unlink this bank account from my PP account, and/or close the PP account involved. If I do not send the coins to you after my excessively long "processing" time, you can not do a damn thing about it. Even if you do a chargeback, I have already taken the funds and PP ends up losing out (which isn't a bad thing per se).

Long story short, if you send the coins or do not, you win. The latter half is the sketch.

Just an observation.

1: Tomatocage has done obscene amounts of escrow without stealing the escrow funds. That sounds like a bad scammer to me.

2: I don't agree with leaving negative Trust just for being new and doing something "sketchy", but his negative Trust is for 0 BTC risked. Meaning in his PERSONAL OPINION, he doesn't trust you.

If I were to leave negative Trust for every single person I thought had done something untrustworthy, people would hate me rather quickly. My overall point is that you haven't done anything WRONG - no one is saying you're a scammer. He's just publicly stating that his personal opinion of you is suspicious.

I have negative Trust, and yet I haven't done anything wrong. Negative Trust isn't the end of the world, it just means that either someone is attempting to bomb your Trust rating (in my case the scammer that left me negative Trust), or that SINGLE PERSON doesn't trust you. Don't sweat it.

I got fronted two payments of 0.33 BTC for web development, and I did the work. That user will give me positive Trust for it, and it will have a Risked BTC amount attached. THAT means something.

Just do some business and get positive Trust. No need to get all upset about it and rage.

1: Are you willing to pay the escrow fees?

2: Where are you shipping from?

3: You said that you've lost interest in mining - what were you mining at (I'm assuming you were mining altcoins)?

Bidding @ 0.025

This is most likely a scam. I contacted the buyer via email, offered to send half of the coins for half of the payment, then the other half of the coins for the other half of the payment.

What I find interesting is that with so many ways to use a PayPal scam (chargebacks, disputes, other people's accounts, etc), this user has chosen the most simple and obvious method.


Leaving negative trust, because I frankly don't trust them.

Good transaction.

This card is SOLD!

Sale over.

Bumping this since it's been a while. Balance is still valid. Asking $40 in BTC.

Will use any escrow you require.

Will send first to trusted members.

http://postimg.org/image/tg3re003j/

Just checked it at the time of this post.

I hope you get your money back.

Please use escrow for these kinds of transactions. I know it's difficult, because most veteran members aren't willing to risk accepting a PayPal payment, but I would have been willing to provide escrow for this deal at 1%.

Then again, you don't know me either. But still.

The irony is that he said I had a "bad trust rating" due to that Israeli scammer leaving me negative trust for 135 BTC or whatever nonsense.

I never said you can get rich from faucets.

I am however saying that this isn't a proper faucet. A proper faucet just sends the coins to a wallet. The originally spirit of a faucet was to get people into BTC by giving away micro cents worth of BTC. To help them understand the way the process works, and how easy it is to contribute to the transaction chain. This just adds numbers to a "wallet" which you can't do anything with until it reaches a certain number.

Believe me, I appreciate the fact that you're "giving away" BTC to the community. Newbies love faucets. I'm just pointing out that very few people are actually going to bother hitting the faucet enough to get a payout, unless they bot it.

Doing the calculations, someone would generate about 1 cent per day with this. Why would someone pay $237 (or whatever) for one?

WU isn't that big of a deal, because BTC transfers are also non-refundable. It's just the fact that he's demanding trusted users send first. That screams scam.

I think this thread has been fairly cleared up.

New user, looking for WU. Wants trusted members to send first. Nothing more to say, really.

I'll do a $51 WU right now for 0.06 BTC, with half of the coins up front. I have $51 in cash laying on my desk in front of me.

Also, he wanted to sell two days ago "ASAP". Now it seems he still has the coins? This is either because

1: He doesn't have the coins.

2: He's demanding Western Union up front from anyone (including trusted members), so no one will buy.

It's good that you have an established system for selling the codes, but I'd have to second this opinion. Amazon codes are almost always sold for below face value. Logic being that there is a slight amount of sketch involved with them. Stolen credit cards can purchase the gift codes, compromised Amazon accounts, etc.

Also, it's considered a cash alternative for some people. Got an amazon code but no cash for buying BTC? Sell the code for BTC. That's a buyer's market, because any buyer of Amazon codes could instead turn the BTC into bank funds pretty easily and buy their own Amazon code at 100% value.

I'd understand offering them at 100%, but anything above that is just... odd. Good luck to you, though.

I'd also like to point out that some scammer just hit this forum selling bogus codes. They were either bought with a stolen CC, a compromised account, or he fraudulently reported his gift card (or credit card) as stolen shortly after receiving the BTC. That's going to hurt your chances unloading them. Just a thought.

BFL has an extremely long history of offering "preorders" and then delivering about 600 years later. If at all. Just an observation.

Bumping yet again.

Card is still valid as of 1/3/2014.

MoneyPaks work well, especially when used with an escrow service.

I'm not shipping from anywhere. This sale is for the card number and PIN of the card. I'd imagine a buyer would transfer the balance to an existing physical card.


The only assurance I can give is I'm more than willing to use an escrow for the transaction. Also, unless it was someone who I genuinely distrusted, I would never ask for the coins up front.


No, not at all. I would provide the number and PIN up front to a Trusted member, or provide that information to the escrow used, who can then communicate with the buyer regarding the validity of the card balance.



The best I can do is a timestamped picture of the current balance and current transaction history. As I said, I'm more than willing to use a trusted escrow provider to make sure the buyer is comfortable during the transaction. The escrow would be responsible for checking the card balance via Starbuck's web site, relaying the OK to the buyer, and then transferring the card's information to that buyer (and of course releasing the BTC to my wallet.).

If any part of my post didn't make sense, just ask for clarification - I just got woken up after two hours of sleep so my head is a little rung.

The following is from the https://www.starbucks.com/card/guestbalance balance check -

Card balance
$59.32

as of 1/2/2014 9:20 AM


This card is valid, and any escrow used in this transaction will be able to prove that (it just occurred to me that sending pictures as proof is meaningless, as I can't show the card number and PIN being entered to prove the card being validated.).