As I thought, you would back out because you are not that confident, and your picture doesn't a prove a thing and is not verifiable, hence the escrow, to which I can provide all the necessary documents and contacts to verify them, Papers that were published, Diplomas, Certifications Thesis...ect ect
In other words, you're full of shit.
I posted, you haven't. Spin as you wish, but we saw who's who right here and now.
Once again you are dodging the point, and since you claim anything I said is not factual then how about proving me wrong while you are at it?
And again full of shit.
And I'll also educate you (as evident that you're lacking it): When you claim something it is up to you to prove it, which you haven't. If I reject your claims, which I have, it's not up to me to prove my rejections.
This was lesson 1 in logic 101.
Pathetic? you don't even answer on point, one again, and claim it is pathetic? an argument/tool you used yourself on your previous comment, yet you fail to acknowledge such a thing, it's obvious which attitude is more pathetic here.
Full of shit yet again.
This is what it come to, when you can't argue you call people stupid or pathetic, these attribute you are mentioning reflect exactly the personality of the person trowing them around at other when they can't even answer, so can we get to the point and back to threads instead of giving these kind of replies that do you no favor ?
And again...
So you admit that the US didn't Colonize Iraq and co like Israel is doing with Palestine
I admitted US didn't colonize, not that Israel did or does.
No wonder you didn't post any credentials.
Again fleeing the fights and seeking safety they come back once it was over, they had the right to stay, and they come back once it was all safe again, which is not as being kicked out of your land with no right to return, so again it's totally different.
Yeah, safety in a zone that is now ruled by terrorists.
I'd say put your life where your words are and go there.
Yes and not only the Oil companies but every single sector, BUT the big difference here is everything is under legal agreements with contracts and co, (it's still not totally fair and it's still not the rule of free market) the Iraqis are still getting proper return from the resources and it's totally different from the Palestinians are getting which ZERO and in fact it's the opposite it's a very negative return as they are getting their land and resources exploited and drained. As proven once again it is a totally different
Yeah, legal agreements that the winners imposed. Totally legit.
Yes they did, and I'm glad that you agree that it's totally different than what's happening in Palestine
Glad you agree that what happened there is much worse.
Comparing? Again did Iraq had a regular army or not ? for reference if you didn't know, just the ground army of Iraq consisted of 375,000 troops, organized into five corps. In all, there were 11 infantry divisions, 3 mechanized divisions, and 3 armored divisions and another 80000 of the Republican Guard consisted troops. so once again you are total wrong and what Israel is doing is totally uncomparable to the US intervention
Completely irrelevant that they had a standing army, because that army wasn't comparable to the American one in any way, shape or form.
Except that the current leading regime in Israel want the situation to remain as it is they don't want peace, as peace would push them to the negotiation table, they want to continue to exploit the land and resources of Palestinians and anything is an excuse to keep the situation as it is, (I'm not saying that Hamas and co are clean, but there is a difference between the one that hold the power and in the strength position and the other that is being oppressed)
So so far point by point you've tried to argue and I'm not going to go trought the ones you avoided to mention and dodging, the Palestinian is not similar and that by any aspect to the Iraqi invasion.
Yes, they do want it to stay as it is, because hamas, which represent the palestinians in the gaza strip has in its front banner the destruction of Israel, so there's actually no1 on the other side to talk to.
More so, in the past Israel was willing to go almost back to 67' borders (beyond me why) and the palestinians rejected it, which is what they claim to have wanted all this time.
http://heb.inss.org.il/index.aspx?id=4611I'm sure you can google the full detailed offer, and I'm also sure that you can google what Abbas said in response (hint: no).
So putting the blame on Israel for any failure with the peace process is outrageous to say the least.
Irrelevant? they mostly do follow yet just the line after you say they broke (officially that is) 65 out of 100 resolution? do you even read what you write you are auto-contradicting your self, and also UN resolutions are quite relevant and a proof that Israel is breaking international law and getting away with it which the whole point our conversation
Meant hundred
S, but that just prove you aren't actually knowledgeable about the subject if that's your strongest card. Up until 1982 there have been at least 200 resolutions, hundreds more since, so yes, mostly follow, does in fact, applies.
Yes you are repeating the same argument from another thread and I can quote if you want.
So yes let's bring things into perspective, a Genocide is not about killing millions here you go
Here is the list of officially recognized genocides by death toll
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_genocides_by_death_toll and you can clearly see at the bottom of the list genocides that corresponds exactly to what's happening right now in Palestine which is a fact , and in 3 weeks over 1500 Palestinian died so far and more to come and this is also a fact so no you are totally wrong!
Have you actually read the list you're linking?
Not only are the palestinians
not listed there, but there are much more "recent" genocides, which implies the list is up to date.
Israeli government hasn't initiated anything to eliminate the palestinians, that's just how you see things, which doesn't make it more real.
So no, I am not wrong.
As for your Toyota example, Toyota engineers and works didn't run civilians with those cars in the goal of killing them, and if we apply this same broken logic of yours, the Plague or Cholera killed way more people than Hitler killed Jew, so the Holocaust is not a genocide and it's perfectly fine. such thinking just makes want to puke.
Thank you for proving my point. IDF, similar to how Toyota doesn't engineer cars to kill people, doesn't shot with intent to kill civilians, which means they do not perform any genocide.
Once you are proven wrong with facts, you are dodging again, but let's follow up with your broken argument once again, the Arab countries are not rich in fact the VAST majority is poor except tree or foor at most. The Arabs has almost zero influence on other countries in comparison to Israel main allies such as the US, the UK or France. want to me to list the sphere of influence of these countries in comparison to Arabs richest countries?
Sure, let's:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_oil_exportsRemove the US, as they don't export crude oil.
top 10 has US, NL and CA.
I'll let you guess who the 7 others are.
At least 18 (AFAIK) arab countries export oil, so while their population is poor, their leadership isn't.
So yes, arab countries are filthy rich and use, not only their money, but more so, their oil, to buy influence, which is actually stronger incentive than money.
So yeah, sphere it out.
BUT a lot of sanctions passed and applied Syria,
From the UN? Not really.
Condemnations? a few.
Sanctions? 0.
Whatever sanctions on Syria came outside the UN.
http://www.sanctionswiki.org/Syria#UNThe Israeli equivalent would be the ongoing arab sanctions that has been lasting for a few decades now.
Actually, it wouldn't be the equivalent, since Syria isn't under sanctions from a few countries for decades, only a few years.
what about Israel that's been breaking UN resolutions half a century officially that is? once again it's a proof that the UN it's biased towards Israel not against! since the majority of countries that hold executive and real power in the UN are Israeli allies and not the other way around like the one I mentioned above
Because Israel breaks some of the resolution it means the UN is biased towards it? lol, please, what a faulty way to think.
What you should ask yourself is how come Israel has had more resolution than all the other countries in the world combined when it hasn't done atrocities such as the Chinese or Russians done.
Or how come Syria didn't get as many resolutions despite the fact the regime there killed over 200k people there thus far, while Israel has killed many, many less.
But, I know you wouldn't ask yourself those questions, because they don't fit your propaganda.
Another pseudo claim without any basis, simply because if Palestinians has their right uphold with their country and the right to exist as a People there ..ect they would not attack their neighbour and hence there would not be any response. it's a causality relation, the groups are fighting in Palestine because their country is colonized and not the other way around!
Yeah, they totally wouldn't sort to terrorism and war. Totally.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab%E2%80%93Israeli_War.
I would also tell and go learn some history, how in fact, they gave up their right for the land (the few that did live there) during the Ottoman empire to avoid paying taxes, so when the British took over, it was British / LoN land.
But why meddle in small details.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyeG_1CD5eAFor the 4th time again, why are you avoiding and dodging the point I mentioned about this, whevere you are out of arguments you dodge and avoid to answer, how about answering my argument instead of pretending you didn't read it or blindless.
Not only is it your job to back up your claims, but I also went the extra mile and back up my rejection of your claim.
You haven't, again.
So the one that is dodging here, constantly, since the very beginning (still not posted your credential, but hey, can't blame a child for hiding behind a silly "bet"), is actually you.
Back peddling? no it is not, it would have back peddling if I wrote all those AFTER your point, which is not the case, from the first I replied to to the last one my position on the matter was clear! my OP post is under the supposition if it was real, and I brought facts why it is most likely to be real than it isn't such as previous verified post by IDF soldiers on social media and the fact that IDF soldiers killed palestinian in several occasions and targeting them directly, and I mentioned several times factual examples of this that you've been dodging all along
Yes, that actually does constitute as back peddling. You added a very one sided comment in your OP and than tuned it down, after stating your obvious opinion. That's called back peddling.
You're welcome.
So far, it's been a trait of yours, and whenever you don't have argument you just dodge, how about answering on point instead.
Funny, considering you have been saying over and over again the same rhetoric "dodge this, dodging that" and not answering a thing.
Irony at its best.
Are you muslim?
Ah so now you've moved from there are none, to there are some of them, weren't the one saying that you IDF Training and they never do wrong?
I said none? Said IDF doesn't ever do wrong? Quote me.
I said IDF doesn't shot to kill civilians. Doesn't train to kill innocent.
So far and in the last 3 weeks 1500-1600 Palestinians died mostly civilians, that's a huge number for a supposed army that didn't trained to murder civilians. (while yes I can agree that soldiers are not trained to kill civilians but trained to kill full stop and to follow orders,
Yes, it is a number, so?
Have you been there? Do you know the circumstances? Have you actually been in a war? (don't answer, I know you haven't).
the orders can be to kill civilians which is the case here.
Source? Proof? Anything solid to back up the claim that they got orders to kill civilians?
Got a feeling you're just gonna type something silly or snarly instead of providing a proof for that.
If they could they would? well lets say that they can Hamas attacked are proven to be useless, and the accuracy claims of the attacks has proven wrong. It is Israel the winner of such attack they can keep the situation as it is with no peace perspective as Israel is not in the receiving end, who cares about Palestinians deaths.
If Israel is the winner, why is hamas doing what it does? (hint: they don't actually care about the palestinians).
More so, if you had an AMAZING jock strap, reducing pain by 90%, can I still kick you in the balls without you retaliating?
So they being useless or not is irrelevant, they shouldn't provoke to begin with and seek peaceful routes.
Not to mention that you make it sound like they are small kids cursing. They shot fucking rockets, home made or not, those are meant to kill.
You never said this in any of your replies to me, and this is the first post when you say such a thing!
Did, earlier.
Hence I said they were either Deleted or Inexistent
And you still didn't provide anything to back up your claims... Again...
No it's does not cut, and that why I did say he did it for sure! but from previous happenings and crimes there are legitimate reason to think it might be true more than being it fake, but yes and I said on the thread on that matter it's doesn't rule a position for 100%
So you do admit he did it for sure...
I see.
That was amusing, despite the fact that I know you meant to write "didn't do".
Maybe I'll just be like you and take things exactly as they are, outside of the general context.
Got any quote of such a thing? I can quote my self dozen of times where I specify, heck, you claimed I generalize to the whole Israeli population on that same post, yet I specified clearly (the post you are dodging in this same point you quoted partially here) Israeli EXTREMISTs. So no it's a clear proof of you lying once again
Quote? It's in almost all your posts.
You say Israel and IDF, knowing that it represent the Israel population (what else could it), both of them (almost all Israelis been to IDF).
Yeah, you wrote extremists a few times, good for you.
Documented facts such video proofs image proofs that were not denied, documented facts are those of soldiers being judged for crimes by the Israel which is of course totally biased towards them yet they was no room to make any excuses, documented facts such UN Resolutions against Israel, Documented facts are Supreme court orders against Israel. but no all these are lies according. As for you being there, that much I could figure out my self and in the way you are defending the crimes that are made in Gaza.
Which brings us back to how biased the UN is.
When you'll actually be there and see how it is, than you can actually talk about what you know vs what you think you know.
I know I know, you think you know. (this is where I repeat).
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