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161  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Time to strike back against Karpeles - The ultimate plan for all mtgox victims on: March 01, 2014, 09:18:18 AM
lol - I just found this...!!

162  Economy / Speculation / Re: I-Ching Mt.GOX Prediction on: March 01, 2014, 08:59:49 AM
Sorry to hear your loss.

Thanks, yes it sucks especially as I was just about to renovate and old apartment where I was going to live with my wife and new baby that will be born in 1 month. (yes I know that sounds like i'm making it up for sympathy or something - but it's actually fucking true)
I would like to insert Mark Karpeles into some kind of meat-grinder right now. Either he 'finds' our 'missing' coins or I hope and pray that he ends up in jail or something much much worse happens to him. I feel so fucking depressed right now.
163  Economy / Speculation / Re: I-Ching Mt.GOX Prediction on: March 01, 2014, 08:38:25 AM
Why did you keep so much in a place that obviously had problems?

Well I had about 50 coins there, I just got a OTP card, so I thought the security must be good. They are after the biggest exchange in the world right?
They seemed pretty professional. I got a few Australian dollar withdrawals, they all came through in 2 weeks or so. They tended to answer my support requests pretty quick, in about 4 days on average. Yeah it seems dumb now, but I trusted them.
I think I sold about 20 coins and had some fiat sitting there, then I bought some cheap coins after they stopped withdrawals, giving me 101 coins.

I thought the only problems they had was slow USD withdrawals because of some legal BS in america. I had no knowledge of any other problems.
164  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will customers who have FIAT at Mt. Gox be able to withdraw their FIAT currency? on: March 01, 2014, 08:20:23 AM
That will be determined through the bankruptcy process.

This.

We don't have information. We have only rumors. The money or the fiat may all be gone or it may all be recovered. Or you get a haircut.

We also have the Oracle: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=493735.0
165  Economy / Speculation / Re: I-Ching Mt.GOX Prediction on: March 01, 2014, 08:18:13 AM
Still not getting your money back. Still curious how much you lost.

101 bitoins - it says in the post.
166  Economy / Speculation / I-Ching Mt.GOX Prediction on: March 01, 2014, 07:47:58 AM
Ok, I have consulted the Oracle:

Question 1: Will there be an announcement by Mt.Gox that they have somehow recovered the 750,000 Missing Bitcoins?

Answer:  Gua 53 (Developing / Gradual Progress)
This could be interpreted that yes indeed, they are actually attempting right now to restore the corrupted coins and they will gradually restore them

Question 2: Will I ever get my lost Gox Bitcoins back?
Answer: Gua 43 (ELIMINATING) Changing to Gua 1 (CREATION / HEAVEN)
This is a very interesting result. The elimination of the Bitcoins will change to creation of the bitcoins.

Feel free to donate me some coins if I am right (or if you just feel sorry for me losing 100 coins to Gox):

15H69RRfwgeS6jgDL3N1F4K7hiTPZtBc8P
15H69RRfwgeS6jgDL3N1F4K7hiTPZtBc8P
15H69RRfwgeS6jgDL3N1F4K7hiTPZtBc8P



167  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: WoW I've found my coins! on: March 01, 2014, 06:05:31 AM
These are all the deposits i sent to that cunt Mark at Gox:
75   2014-01-21 01:04:00   deposit   1PkvLqjTUdqDdLYa7pP9W8J5UHZHsrmdRf   2.97   
81   2014-01-22 01:03:00   deposit   17APreaf41aL3exUfhpRDkEpWK3Kj7mqCa   4   
92   2014-01-22 03:50:01   deposit   16v6SxwrRadhHCY7rJwPq5S8Ejrsrifh8b   2   
95   2014-01-27 04:13:00   deposit   1MFjfj4Y8wmpEtyX873ZveXZWVnJ6abwco   4.9495   
99   2014-01-30 02:38:00   deposit   14E1f3KW4WTHWyKRbxjhq58DY3GU4NtJK8        5   
109   2014-02-03 06:29:00   deposit   1CdiTM1BCifFB5KpW8L5t51PUL8NW7vW9E        5   
THIS IS HERE AND IS STILL HERE!:
1NRUPGCqCX56DvVptV2dvNPS2UwZMsUXvA 5 BTC

You have 1BTC at 1A5d9dn4SDnKGgRdVRyGZC56ptVjWV18Sv  from 16v6SxwrRadhHCY7rJwPq5S8Ejrsrifh8b   directly never touched.
4.9495 BTC at 1AvrC7rJVZgj8HHtRpyBWeURHzbDNmppcx from 1MFjfj4Y8wmpEtyX873ZveXZWVnJ6abwco along with some others.
5 BTC at 1NRUPGCqCX56DvVptV2dvNPS2UwZMsUXvA from 1CdiTM1BCifFB5KpW8L5t51PUL8NW7vW9E

You can do a little more digging to find the other three transactions but almost half of your funds are there just 2 hops away.

So what do I do about that?

I mean ALL these coins I sent from my localbitcoins account - so I even have a kind of proof there. I wish I could just show that to the Bitcoin Foundation or something and just send em back somehow.
168  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Time to strike back against Karpeles - The ultimate plan for all mtgox victims on: March 01, 2014, 05:36:49 AM

MESSAGE FROM MY LAWYER IN JAPAN:

"you can claim your right as the creditor and participate the procedure through a lawyer"


DO IT NOW
Could you be more precise please? Who is lawyer? What exactly he is proposing? Is his proposition public? How much costs his service?
Despite my personal scepticism it may be a way for other victims of this megafraud.

Anyone who is serious about pursuing legal action can PM me, or contact my lawyer, Mr Masayuki Honda
http://en.honda-law.net/
169  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: WoW I've found my coins! on: March 01, 2014, 05:24:19 AM
These are all the deposits i sent to that cunt Mark at Gox:


75   2014-01-21 01:04:00   deposit   1PkvLqjTUdqDdLYa7pP9W8J5UHZHsrmdRf   2.97   

81   2014-01-22 01:03:00   deposit   17APreaf41aL3exUfhpRDkEpWK3Kj7mqCa   4   

92   2014-01-22 03:50:01   deposit   16v6SxwrRadhHCY7rJwPq5S8Ejrsrifh8b   2   

95   2014-01-27 04:13:00   deposit   1MFjfj4Y8wmpEtyX873ZveXZWVnJ6abwco   4.9495   

99   2014-01-30 02:38:00   deposit   14E1f3KW4WTHWyKRbxjhq58DY3GU4NtJK8        5   



109   2014-02-03 06:29:00   deposit   1CdiTM1BCifFB5KpW8L5t51PUL8NW7vW9E        5   
THIS IS HERE AND IS STILL HERE!:
1NRUPGCqCX56DvVptV2dvNPS2UwZMsUXvA 5 BTC

170  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Resurrection of Mt.Gox on: March 01, 2014, 05:01:56 AM
WHY THE F**K DIDN'T ANYONE BRING A BASEBALL BAT?



OR EVEN BETTER, A GUILLOTINE...


171  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: [GOX] Crime Scene Investigation, Case #MG744 on: March 01, 2014, 02:28:00 AM
So who stole $300,000,0000 USD worth of Bitcoins and got away with it?

PRIME SUSPECTS:

All Mt. Gox staff:

Mark Karpeles
Gay Butchery Gonzales
+ the rest

ROUND EM UP, LIE DETECTOR THEM
172  Economy / Service Discussion / Gox is the Biggest Heist in History? $300,000,000 USD ? on: March 01, 2014, 02:24:54 AM
So who stole $300,000,0000 USD and got away with it?

PRIME SUSPECTS:

All Mt. Gox staff:

Mark Karpeles
Gay Butchery Gonzales
+ the rest

ROUND EM UP, LIE DETECTOR THEM
173  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: [GOX] $50 million USD in claims from over 500 plaintiffs in 24 hours! on: March 01, 2014, 02:21:09 AM
I am starting a class action lawsuit via a Japanese lawyer that is based just down the road from Gox's office.

His last message to me was:

Dear -----

OK. We’ll send the bill to you tomorrow or Monday morning.
MG applied not bankruptcy, but restructuring or rehabilitation.

You can’t file a lawsuit anymore, but you can claim your right as the creditor and participate the procedure through a lawyer ( the lawyer of MG said there’s still some assets in the bank ).

Regards,

----

Anyone who's lost more than $10,000 USD and wants to join in, PM me - with the amount you lost.
You will need Proof's of money transferred, Account number etc.
The cost to join in could be around $2000 USD.
We will be starting the case on Monday - so contact me ASAP
174  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: [GOX] Crime Scene Investigation, Case #MG744 on: March 01, 2014, 02:13:35 AM
Would it help to make a directory of every Btcoin address that has been used to send coins to Gox?

I have a few addresses they gave me.

Is it possible to follow the path like that?
175  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: MtGox is lying... probably they stole all the bitcoins on: March 01, 2014, 02:01:35 AM
What about human stupidity?

Someone had to work on the hardware interface and "oops, did I just format the wrong hard drive or something?"

I was thinking that too - they were most probably really working on fixing the malleability bug.
They said they had to re-index the whole blockchain.

The blockchain is made of files ending .dat
What if the idiot just applied his fix to ALL files ending in .dat ? So he accidentally modded all his wallets!!!!!

176  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: I bet that Mark lost the private keys and is crying theft out of embarassment on: March 01, 2014, 01:58:57 AM
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177  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: [Oz] Has anyone used BIt Trade Australia to sell Bitcoins for dollars ? on: February 28, 2014, 11:41:07 PM
What's the point - use localbitcoins.com
They are the BEST exchange out there
178  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Resurrection of Mt.Gox on: February 28, 2014, 11:38:52 PM
I think they already are considering a plan like this. It is mtgox however that should take the initiative and, in doing that, it should ask for the creditors approval (all of us).

Best regards,
ilpirata79



It simply takes Gox to mail its customers the proposition and ask for a vote.

Thing is what happens to those not wanting to play along and how is this fair on them. Granted nothing is fair in this whole mess but still. What kind of % would they need to pass this and are there any laws on it?

I'll be asking my Japanese Lawyer exactly that today... i will post back here
179  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Time to strike back against Karpeles - The ultimate plan for all mtgox victims on: February 28, 2014, 10:49:16 PM
When reading through different bitcoin boards, you'll notice that many people lost a lot of money recently.
Some people wrote that they've lost all their savings, some others even thousands of BTC thanks to mtgox.
Imagine Mark Karpeles is sitting in a mansion together with Kim Dotcom and they're sipping a 100 years old whiskey together.

I'm normally a funny person but this post isn't about fun at all. I'm also a victim as you are.
A two digit amount of BTC was stolen from me by Mark Karpeles this week. A friend of mine even lost a three digit amount of BTC.
While I noticed that many people lost a lot of money, I also realised that most of the people even lost their HOPE.
Are you really accepting this situation as it is and will allow Karpeles to stuff his bags with (your) money?
Oh, you were not a user of mtgox? Well, do you think that this couldn't happen to you on any other bitcoin exchange?

This is may not the ship Arcadia but people there is really help out there. I have a plan which requires more than a one man army.
You know if you're alone, you can't do much. Of course you can contact your lawyer try to get something out of the mtgox insolvency proceedings.
But to be honest. How much do you think you'll get at the end, if mtgox asserts that they've no funds left?
Don't you think that fighting evil forces require some kind of higher involvement? An organisation?
Exactly, that's what I want to build. An initiative called catch karpeles.

So the plan is to build a public fund and raise money for any actions which lead to the goals of this project.
Here is the rough plan:

1) Create a website where victims can submit their data, amount they've lost, screenshots/evidence like bank account transfer receipts etc.
2) Initiate a funding process and raise money to perform any activities in order to reach the project goals
3) Receive mandates from all participating victims in order that the organisation can protect their rights at international courts
4) Gather a team of the best available international lawyers, financial experts and investigators such as fbi/interpol (in case we have evidence for a criminal act)
5) Analyse all evidents, data, and indices in order to prepare any possible legal steps
6) Initiate legal steps against Mark Karpeles and mtgox
7) Initiate legal steps against all banks and institutions who helped mtgox raising funds and transferring money away from their bank accounts or are involved in money laundering for Karpeles
VIII) Once we have enough funds, we'll offer money to anyone who can provide evidence like database dump of mtgox, internal documents or witness statements etc.
(when people receive much money, they become unloyal Karpeles - you know this better than all of us)
9) Proof that mtgox was nerver hacked at all and Mark Karpeles is responsible for these kind of BTC loss
10) Find fiat/btc Karpeles is hiding somewhere and make sure these funds can be used for the procedure for declaring bankruptcy
GOAL 1) Make sure fair insolvency proceedings will take place and victims get as much money back as possible
GOAL 2) Make sure Karpeles can't disappear with the stolen money and change his identitiy etc (don't think you're safe just by changing your identity - we'll definitely catch you no matter what your name might be)
GOAL 3) Make sure Karpeles will leave his mansion and get forced to play the game "soap and shower" in JAIL (not to mention what would happen, if rich victims would catch Karpeles...)


Now it's your turn to move something. Please check whatever you can do to contribute to this project. We need developers, supporters, graphic designers, bloggers, multiplicators, lawyers, speakers, financial advisors, politicians, morticians, traders, traitors, interpreters and any other specialists who could help to archieve these goals.
Regarding the funding we can setup an account at a notary or even a governmental institution somewhere. I don't care about the institution where the money is gathered as long as the money is out of Karpeles' reach.
Fact is that we need to raise funds and work together to fight against this biggest fraud in Bitcoins history. Don't let Karpeles get away with our savings.
It's time do something. Project catchkarpeles is waiting for your support.

Thanks for your efforts!

PAR1TY

MESSAGE FROM MY LAWYER IN JAPAN:

"you can claim your right as the creditor and participate the procedure through a lawyer"


DO IT NOW
180  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Open Letter to Mark Karpeles: Voluntary Reorganization Best Option for Us All on: February 28, 2014, 10:43:27 PM
ok so there is no-one in this chat room: #mtgox-statement  Huh

I am actually doing something real about this:

This is my latest letter from my Lawyer:

-------------------------------------------------------------
Dear Mr. X,

OK. We’ll send the bill to you tomorrow or Monday morning.

MG applied not bankruptcy, but restructuring or rehabilitation.

You can’t file a lawsuit anymore, but you can claim your right as the creditor and participate the procedure through a lawyer ( the lawyer of MG said there’s still some assets in the bank ).

Regards,
Z
-------------------------------------------------------------

Sound's interesting. I will definitely do this. If you want to join us, please PM ME ASAP.
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