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161  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Cinni | PoS | No premine on: April 24, 2014, 10:34:10 PM
Quote from OP:

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In the future each computer can only use up to 10,000 cinni for PoS minting.

This restriction is applicable today are this is still something in the future ?
162  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PRT] Particle | CPU/GPU, Fast, Easy Mine, * NO PREMINE * | Official Thread on: April 24, 2014, 10:14:27 PM
moonmoon, what are your thoughts on reducing the total number of coins ?
163  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PRT] Particle | CPU/GPU, Fast, Easy Mine, * NO PREMINE * | Official Thread on: April 24, 2014, 10:10:36 PM
Does anyone have any thoughts on how we might migrate to Proof of Stake?  Proof of Stake has a slightly different block format then the regular blockchain.  The only way I can see to do it would be to create a new Particle2 blockchain and do a 1:1 swap out of the coins, which scares me and I think is dangerous because we would need to get all of the exchanges and pools on board.  I think it is too disruptive.

What I'm trying to think of is if there is a way to migrate the existing blockchain and add the PoS functionality after a hardfork.  We could hardcode it to ignore coinstake until after the hardfork.  But how do we pull the existing blockchain in so the block headers have the PoS mods... this is what I'm thinking through now.  If we could construct the new PoS enabled blockchain from the existing one, then its an easy matter to hardfork it and require everyone to simply update their client.  I'm just not sure how to do this without winding up with two clients within one codebase that knows how to do the conversion, which is a lot of work.  I'm not sure if you had a normal peer and a PoS peer if the PoS one would be able to accept the block inventory.  Maybe it would "just work".  In that case, I could simply stand up the PoS node let it sync and build the new blockchain, and then we do a hardfork.

I'm not aware of any other coins that have successfully done this migration, does anyone know of one?

Open to any ideas.
I'm not sure how different the main code is between algos, but the only Quark based coin with POS so far has been PROBE.  And I would say it has been somewhat of a disaster with forking happening over and over.  Whether the forking problems are due to the POS code I'm not sure.  Might be interesting for you to look over that code and see if it gives you ideas. 

I do remember Bottlecaps (one of the earlier POS scrypt coins) have lots of forking issues at one point that was due to errors in the POS code.  As another warning Bottlecaps just never really recovered after a few forks as people lost confidence...

**Are you back to thinking POS instead of the Dividend idea you mentioned a few days ago?
not instead of, in addition to.

I am setting up a multipool, but my concern was that folks will mine on the multipool instead of as opposed to in addition to mining on PRT.  The ideal situation would be that people do both.

The value of PRT will be enough to incentivize people to mine it, but I am concerned about the nethash rate.  Which is why I started thinking about PoS again.

I read through some code, and I'm pretty sure I could make the migration work seamlessly, but now I am debating whether it is worth it, because of the issues you illustrate.  The PoS stuff is not foolproof and comes with baggage of its own.  It would also mean essentially going backwards in time a couple of versions of the bitcoin core and losing some RPC functionality etc.  I know PoS is a popular fad right now, but I am not too thrilled about it and the legacy codebase you have to use.

Right now PRT is relatively cheap, I know its gone up a bit % wise on BTER but at the moment it is cheap - but it is not going to remain so for long with the things that are coming.  Thats a good thing, but it also brings concerns because as we climb coinmarketcap and start dropping news we are going to start gaining a lot more attention.  One thing I am thinking about at the least is automated checkpointing.

I just want to make sure we maintain hashrate on our network in addition to mining on the multipool for payouts in PRT.  Because we aren't PoS we need both.

Most PoS coins that have PoW component are getting rid of PoW because of vulnerabilities of having both (don't know the details, apparently rat4 the dev of Blackcoin was able to successfully prove this, if you are interested I can find the relevant links).

Or is that specific to a certain code base (Blackcoin, Mintcoin etc.) ... I don't know. Just something to think about.
I am not an expert, so please pardon my ignorance.

164  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] FlutterCoin FLT NEW Proof Of Transaction - UPDATE NOW FORK in 2 DAYS! on: April 17, 2014, 04:11:17 PM
Very good interview thekidcoin -  
http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/news/fluttercoin-wants-to-reward-your-spending-thekidcoin/2014/04/17

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but open source is open source, and to me it’s actually a compliment to use my system in some way.

^^ very classy of you to say that. Keep up the good work.
165  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★█ Zeitcoin Movement █★ [ZEIT] POW/POS ★MULTIPOOL★ Join Our Thriving Community! on: April 14, 2014, 04:16:32 PM
Ugghh all those disgusting sell walls ... hold on to your ZEIT people Smiley
166  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] FlutterCoin FLT NEW Proof Of Transaction - PoT / PoW / PoS UPDATE NOW! on: April 14, 2014, 01:11:24 PM
There is a lot of +ve activity in altcoins (particulary PoS coins).
I think its FLTs turn to be in the spotlight very soon ...

Need to spread the word people .. not many know about FLT

I sort of called it ... later tonight should be interesting ... that's the time the big pumps have been happening to the other coins (like BC)
167  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★█ Zeitcoin Movement █★ [ZEIT] POW/POS ★MULTIPOOL★ Join Our Thriving Community! on: April 14, 2014, 04:18:24 AM
Ughhh people selling at 9 sat
168  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★█ Zeitcoin Movement █★ [ZEIT] POW/POS ★MULTIPOOL★ Join Our Thriving Community! on: April 14, 2014, 03:58:46 AM
Thank you moby dick

lol .. past double digits now
169  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★█ Zeitcoin Movement █★ [ZEIT] POW/POS ★MULTIPOOL★ Join Our Thriving Community! on: April 14, 2014, 03:40:56 AM
Just .8 BTC to 9 sat .... tempted to take it down. But I already have enough ZEIT Smiley
170  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★█ Zeitcoin Movement █★ [ZEIT] POW/POS ★MULTIPOOL★ Join Our Thriving Community! on: April 14, 2014, 03:32:31 AM
7 sat now !!

Looks like the train is starting to leave the station Cheesy

I'm pretty sure we all have black coin to thank for that. Some of that volume is starting to spill into all POS coins (ECC, Zeit, FAC, MINT etc) now, given how they are all relatively similar.

Agree with what you said about BC
Also we are at 8 sat now Smiley

That's one BIG whale(s) working ...
171  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] FlutterCoin FLT NEW Proof Of Transaction - PoT / PoW / PoS UPDATE NOW! on: April 14, 2014, 03:30:25 AM
There is a lot of +ve activity in altcoins (particulary PoS coins).
I think its FLTs turn to be in the spotlight very soon ...

Need to spread the word people .. not many know about FLT
172  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★█ Zeitcoin Movement █★ [ZEIT] POW/POS ★MULTIPOOL★ Join Our Thriving Community! on: April 14, 2014, 03:27:35 AM
7 sat now !!
173  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] FlutterCoin FLT NEW Proof Of Transaction - PoT / PoW / PoS UPDATE NOW! on: April 13, 2014, 02:46:18 PM
still never going over 2500 satoshi, just like i said

Did you just add a 0 to what you had said previously lol

absolutely.

i was goofing originally. someone pm'd me asking me about it and i basically admitted i was kind of starting shit just to rile up the flutter community. i felt like the coin needed a good hater so the other members could rally against the hate. that was what, less than 24 hours ago? i take full credit for the price rise based on my ingenious ploy.  Tongue

Ok you got me very confused Smiley
174  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] FlutterCoin FLT NEW Proof Of Transaction - PoT / PoW / PoS UPDATE NOW! on: April 13, 2014, 02:45:12 PM

Whoever is doing BC FAC and FLT are the best I've ever seen at this game. That's for sure.
Much props.

I own 2 out of the 3 ... no prizes for guessing which two since I don't believe in FAC (because of the premine) ... so I don't mind that Smiley
Honestly I think BC and FLT are worth investing in just for the innovation.
175  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] FlutterCoin FLT NEW Proof Of Transaction - PoT / PoW / PoS UPDATE NOW! on: April 13, 2014, 02:00:39 PM
still never going over 2500 satoshi, just like i said

Did you just add a 0 to what you had said previously lol
176  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | on exchanges | PoS | No premine on: April 12, 2014, 09:40:49 PM
It's correct to have the total of my BC in STAKE instead of Balance?
Before I had 11880 BC in balance and now 11810 in stake and only 81 in balance... I'm worry about that...

Nothing to worry .. (just that you temporarily cannot use the balance).
But once the staking is done, you'll see them back in your total balance.
177  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | on exchanges | PoS | No premine on: April 12, 2014, 01:42:45 PM
Did I miss the train or is 13420 still a good price to be buying ? Smiley

We're just starting mate.

FYI, I'm selling everything I don't need on ebay right now. Guess where that money's going.

Thanks mate
I was so close to buying some at 9500 yesterday, kicking myself for not doing it Smiley
178  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | on exchanges | PoS | No premine on: April 12, 2014, 01:35:21 PM
Did I miss the train or is 13420 still a good price to be buying ? Smiley
179  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ''pass the flutter'' on: April 07, 2014, 04:14:30 AM
504 to poogasm, 502 to newra

Lol that was a surprise (I was waiting for a Mintpal withdrawl instead Smiley)
Sent 502 back to seattletu (since no one else I knew was online ... no bonus)
180  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] FlutterCoin FLT - NEW Innovative Proof Of Transaction - PoT / PoW / PoS on: April 06, 2014, 02:18:53 AM

Cool Thanks !
Can you showoff the awesome coin logo on the overview tab of the wallet ? Smiley
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