I will not get anything from publishing my ideas and helping to fix them. So I want to inform you, that I will shortly setup a "Darkcoin Deanonymizer" which will for every single darksend transaction be able to link incoming and outcoing transactions. I don't understand is that a threat ? He wants money "or else" ? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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BTW (hypothetical) What happens if one group runs a good chunk of masternodes, say 51%. Would they have any advantage in breaking darksend anon (like running lots of tor nodes breaks tor anon)?
thx
At the actual rate owning the 51% of the MNs require an investmen of almost 1.5M$. 2250 MNs and DRK value being 3$ it would cost 3.3M$. You see it gets harder and harder as the network keeps growning. That is interesting point ... food for though; if you where the feds what would you do: 1. Buy 50%+ MN @ $2 million 2. Try and crack the encryption and spend $100+ millions and countless years if not decades? It's not just 51% of the masternodes it would have to be a large majority of them, pushing the cost higher. Masternode Snooping
When Darksend peers mix with each other they use a dedicated node, called a Masternode. This node in the present implementation is required to be able to see the inputs and outputs of the transactions to ensure that parties sign, otherwise the system will charge them collateral fees.
Peers mix with many different Masternodes in a row, known as “rounds” of anonymity in the client. To follow a transaction through the full process, a user must go through a series of malicious Masternodes. This process is random, so a bad actor would need to control many Masternodes in order to attack in this way.
The trade off is a sybil resistant system or one with more personal privacy from snooping Masternodes. But in the case where a Masternode is blinded, collateral protection can’t be used. If a Masternode is blind to the submission of outputs and signing, by definition it would not know who to charge the collateral.
There are other options available, such as banning inputs of users that attempt to break the system. Something like this will have to be utilized in addition to a blinded setup to protect the system from abuse.
Source : https://darkcointalk.org/threads/reply-to-kristovs-paper.2325/It was after the review of Kristov Atlas (many of those are now mitigated).
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DarkSend is immune to such attacks, all involved crypto functions could be cracked and the mixing is still done off blockchain by the masternodes. Off blockchain means that the information is lost and that's the only way to secure it, you can't do it with cryptography.
See if I haven't been banging on about the advantages of a 2-tier network for weeks now. - legacy compliance with Bitcoin commercial infrastructure - decoupled scope of anon-tech allowing for evolutionary or revolutionary revisions to be firewalled off from the blockchain development - ability to support pre-emtive rather than reactive anonymisation - ability to support multiple redundancy anonymisation as opposed to just single redundancy with single-tier network - following on from that, massive resistance against attacks on algo weaknesses due to multiple redundancy mixing and now (now being back in April 2014 but I just saw it 'now') Evan has added... - resistance to cracking by shor's algorithm ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi1242.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fgg530%2FIgnition75%2Fshor_zps3b3b1c11.jpg&t=663&c=IM-rPAZPzr3O0g) Me too !
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![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi37.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe74%2F2004PontiacGTP%2Fdeereatingpopcorn.gif&t=663&c=4h1-bU25lkl8pA) Speaks volume.
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We aren't quite buoyant yet even though the 4-hour momentum would suggest so. This is because the 1 and 4 hour charts are 180 degrees out of phase right now. We need the 1 hour to complete its consolidation and get in sync with the longer wavelength trading cycle. Sorry about that. Should wash through over the next 24 hours. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fn9otMW9.png&t=663&c=Weh0r_sfr-6e5g) Ode to TokLike the legend of the Phoenix All ends with beginnings What keeps the alt world spinning DRK force from the beginning We've, come too far to give up, who we are So let's, raise the bar and our nodes to the stars He's up all night to the sun He trades all night to get some He's up all night for the pump He's up all night to get lucky We're up all night to the sun We trade all night to get some We trade all night for good pumps We're up all night to get lucky He trades all night to get lucky We trade all night to get lucky ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FNNo6Irr.gif&t=663&c=kXVKM3-iDWaJQg)
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Call to all Russians around!! Can someone please confirm if VK.COM is big over there? We have been asked to include this in the website community page: https://vk.com/DRK_RUSThe only Russian I speak/drink is vodka, so I'm a bit limited to know if this is important enough. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VK_(social_networking_website) just by googling i would say they are like the russian Facebook .. quote : ''second most visited website in Russia, after Yandex.'' Thanks, google was too far away I guess we should be adding that page then.Translate it first, never know... Moreover, a page with 6 followers...
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Hasn't Jesse Livermore learned any basic PR skills from hanging around these forums for nearly a year ?
Our imagination is far more potent than his facts. It can only be a disappointment now.
![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FUcZ5ibf.gif&t=663&c=rMNcKUsu1rRodw)
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to be honest i only holdl because i'm afraid of letting go .. or to put it in better words : quote from unknown poet : ''It was so easy falling for you, but now its hard for me to let go. ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) I guess i really did love you and i'm afraid i still do ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) '' hehehe Unknown poet or Nsync ? jk
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Not funny ! Any association with Disney would tarnish Darkcoin reputation. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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2016, frequent VIMO partys all over the word (VIMO == very important masternode operator) First VIMO party is planned for Macau, Tungfa is organising ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) my yacht party is still planned for as soon as 1 DRK > 1 BTC ! all you guys are invited ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Can we meet you in Hong Kong and cruise to Macau on your Yacht? We shouldn't be all in the same place at the same time *get my tinfoil hat* ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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Relax Relax my friend. - Nobody ever received any payments from the Foundation as they have NOT launched yet ! - People are offering services (MN Services, MN Pooling, MN Setup) and they are getting paid, but a lot of the community work (programmers, developers, PR, New Buiseness Devs,....) are not getting paid (incl myself) .... and me personally i do NOT expect to as well ! I am doing my work here as a community free effort/ i am NOT expecting anything, and i am having a blast doing it ! Speaking of slave labour ... it all depends where you are ! When i look across the boarder to china, you can get a full day labour for 1-2 DRK a day ! (i am NOT supporting that, just saying....) I think you should rephrase you offer to : Donations ! but i am just talking here .... do not get pissed at me, am just trying to help out ! ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) You are not helping. Why should I rephrase my offer? Everybody knows that I accept donations, that's how it worked for months now. If some people here (not you specifically) want to see a large amount of daily cartoons coming to the community, and are willing to pay for it, they now know my very reasonable proposal.Meanwhile I will continue doing what I do. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Why shouldn't I? It is fun, helps Darkcoin and some people even donate. IMO It's the words you use, like "slave labor" nobody here forced you to do anything. There are a lot of communities (crypto and non crypto) where people are doing that for free, just for fun. However, the way you said it "sounded" like you were entitled to some remuneration.
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So I was thinking about starting a cartoon to celebrate evan's achievements: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FnY26GcN.gif&t=663&c=ncR_XgDfsxGw3Q) A proposal: Is the community/foundation willing to pay me a monthly amount of DRK (I don't know, 150 DRK or something) so I can allocate some time every day and create a daily cartoon? I could create hilarious confrontations between darkcoin and other coins, etc... ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Let me know your thoughts. Donations: XtAdMy5nSxArut6rKKLQXxm84rpJNipXibgreat cartoon but man 150 DRK a month from the foundation !!! hahaaa sorry I have to laught ! remember everybody is working for free here ! we love cartoons but do you really think they will put you on a monthly salary to keep the spirit up !? think about it ....>>> 150 DRK / 30 days of atleast 2 hours = 2.5 DRK per hour. I don't know in which country you live, but in my place that's basically considered "slave labor". Listen, I am not forcing anybody, and I specifically said: it's a proposal to the community or foundation. I never received any DRK from the foundation, but I have come to know the darkcoin community as very generous over the last months. Remember everybody is working for free here ! Untrue. Speak for yourself. Some people here already offer services for DRK. I am no different. Maybe there are other priorities than to pay an official cartoonist. Don't get me wrong your work is awesome, but I prefer for example to put some money in the animated video project or a dev fund.
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Sorry to interrupt this awesome display of DRK-itude but THIS is the short-term bottom.
0.0073 within 12 hours, 0.0079 within 24 hours.
Carry on. JL
Looks like we got sideways-delayed a bit. We're sitting on launchpad here and about to get ignition. 0.0073 then 0.0079 quickly thereafter. JL Are we going to get Ignition to .0075? Boom-Tish ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Would prefer we got ignition to 0.075.....with ongoing thrust to 0.75....and third stage release at 7.5 Then (one day) we're all walking around realising it eventuated in Ignition 75! (and you will be some sort of 2nd fiddle messiah to the main guy) nice timing ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) hi hi once I see it on chart will think about you my friend now its bed time.... OK, when we are at .75.00 I will be throwing an Ignition to 75 party in Vegas ;p We can celebrate by gambling some DRK, which I'm sure will be in every Casino by then...
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If Darkwallet have succes why people choose Darkcoin? Thanks
Darkwallet is still bound by BTC's confirms and wasn't built to be anonymous from the start. Granted, you could argue with the current issue that DRK is facing, neither are we, but we were designed from the start to be an anonymous currency. With BTC's confirms, DRK would have InstantX. Further, the masternode network still hasn't been tapped as to what kinds of services can be built on top of it. You can actually earn revenue from running a masternode, something you won't be able to do with Darkwallet or BTC for that matter. Finally, Darkwallet still remains a centralized, browser based platform, not something I am willing to risk money with. Ok. Chrome and Firefox have a centralised server? Exists now a decentralised browser? Thanks for answers. Not the browsers, Darkwallet is centralized because the "mixing" will take place in their own servers so you have to trust that they won't try to retrace some transactions even for research purposes.
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i don't have a Crystal ball but I think it will depend on these factors:
a) how fast Evan and the dev team comes up with a security patch b) If 'a' will require hard fork or not c) In case 'b' is yes then if it will be successful hard fork or not d) If these will not be additional security vulnerabilities
but i can't give you any specific number out of my ass
I'm about 50% done with the patch after working on it today. I'll probably have it completed tomorrow then we can start testing on testnet. I've figured out a way to do it without a hard-fork, so there's no risk to the patch at all. With no need to hard fork or risk to the patch, why not roll to mainnet? Just curious. It would be risky to put anything live on a mainnet without further tests. Better safe than sorry, that's IMO a very good procedure.
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Hey darkbros so now with this hard fork fiasco how hard do you think DRK price is going to drop? I already got burned buying at the top .0082 (I know I'm an idiot) so I am sincerely asking you people who have made enough money that you don't have any motives for others to buy, or are a genuinely good person. I'm thinking 0.004 in a few weeks time right after the issues get fixed?
Thanks y'all.
In what dimension did you live that hard fork fiasco ? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif)
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********* TRADING ALERT ********* The market has overcorrected. Everyone has been dumping like hell thinking they're going to make a tidy profit buying back in at 5. However as I explained on Sunday, the valuation is much more elastic now. We can see this in the 1 hour chart. The selling momentum went 1-2-3-2-1 and now it's level. i.e. the dump came in 5 successive waves increasing in intensity and then decreasing. The 1 hour chart has now gone level or slightly crossed to the upside. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FHiev1nO.png&t=663&c=JmukEGHq26en4Q) MARKET DEPTH The market depth is in full buy-back configuration. Massive asymmetry in favour of the bid side indicates that traders still expect the valuation to recede further but bargain hunters have gathered in numbers with jaws on the floor and tongues hanging out. If you've dumped and are waiting to get back in your going to be in good company. The more the price drops the less liquidity there's going to be: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FZlMl0C8.png&t=663&c=Kk-9aYEk9haVXQ) The 4 hour hour chart is still in full kamikaze mode, but the next bar may indicate a revised trajectory given that selling has all but stopped for the moment and the 1 hour went horizontal. There's a full 17000 DRK to plough through just to get back to 6 and even if that goes off order book it may only be because the market sees us bottoming out. A possible retest of 5.5 may be on the cards at some point but it's equally possible that 6 is the new base. = My crystal ball says we're not going to get below the 18 day EMA currently at ~0.0061 ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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new all time highs 12th april 2015
You bought back ? ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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