This is like the 10th KYC thread I've seen just this month. It seems as people are starting to see the problem with KYC on crypto. It's pointless basically. Smart money is accumulating projects like Blocknet, Komodo etc, as these projects works on Decentralized Trading solutions (DEX's). Eliminating the need for KYC, accounts, registrations, personal info, you name it! A real DEX can't be shut down, you can compare it with downloading torrents, which is essentially you downloading off of something else who seeds the file. You can close ThePirateBay, but it doesn't remove the torrent itself. There's a reason Binance felt the need to make their own, since DEX's could easily become the industry standard.
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I'll take 95% decentralization over any centralized option out there any day. Agree that BTC has a few centralized points, due to the way it's mined. Actually more a fan of POS, however these are prone to 51% attacks if the supply isn't diversified enough amongst it's users, meaning a whale could potentially buy up more than half of it's supply over time. It's a funny discussion, since it proves that more and more people is starting to actually care about this topic, meanwhile we see everyone trade their favourite cryptocurrencies on centralized exchanges, which is as close to as centralized as you can get. It boggles me every single day, that no one seems to scare, I guess everyone is just in it for the money Haha! I have a strong feeling that once people actually DO start to care, that projects like Blocknet for example, will be major players, since their DEX solutions will off set peoples need to stay anonymous while trading. As the bigger players are entering the scene, with millions of dollars to play with, I'm sure a LOT of these guys, would love to hide their money this way. As we've seen so many times, the rich and wealthy hides the majority of their money from the tax man, I wonder why
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I really like decentralized exchanges and I hope that they will become popular in 2020. However, many people do not use decentralized exchanges due to trading volume.
honestly, it is not just the trading volume that I consider in choosing an exchange. I am also not certain to connect my wallet directly to the dex exchange, though I have the private key, the regulation, and convenience that a centralized exchange is what I want to consider. Most of the time, the volume in DEX is determined by traders, and it might not be the reason why people don't want to trade in DEX since the volume can be achieve if the crpyto do really is performing well in the market. It is the regulation that centralized exchange provides, despite of wallet security or also known as "not your keys, not your coins". True! A friend of mine has traded on DEX's for a few months already, and otherwise used exchanges with no KYC. He's a very "private" person, told me NOT to tell anyone of our friends that he even owns any crypto. There's a LOT of people who straight up AVOID exchanges with KYC, because they want to remain private. Makes sense, it's the reason BTC was created in the first place. It's nobodys business what you trade and hold. Guess what? KYC/AML is coming to every exchange, be it a CEX or a DEX. No it's not. What makes you even think that? A real DEX is not owned by anyone. Based on your logic, everyone of us would have to undergo KYC every time we access the internet, which isn't true at all. Use a prepaid phone, and jump on an open Wifi connection, and you're pretty much anonymous. I think you need to do some research here buddy, as decentralized trading works just like when you download torrents. These transactions happens between users, and no one else. Several DEX are owned by people just like Mcaffees and Ivanov, there is a possibility that they may ask KYC if government asks them to. The one DEX that might not really be compromised by government is blocknet since you can install the exchange itself. The problem with blocknet is that there isn't much coins listed to it, they don't even have ETH there. A DEX is not owned by ANYONE. Jesus christ, does nobody here even understand what a REAL DEX is? A real DEX is DECENTRALIZED - Meaning NO one controls it. Sure you can "start/launch" it, but once you've done that, it's no longer in YOUR control. Any "DEX" claiming otherwise, is not a real DEX. Simple as that. This means, that while the devs are asked to pull down their DEX nodes by the governments because it's "illegal", it doesn't make the DEX dissapear. It's the same as when they shut down ThePirateBay. Did torrents and file sharing die? NO!!!! Not trying to offend anyone here, but it frustrates me that nobody seems to understand the bigger picture here! It goes to show how huge crypto is becoming.. These exchanges keep raking on serious profits in fees and charges. No wonder a lot of prospective project developers are going into exchange developments. Truth is, this will get even bigger with more crypto adoption and recognition.
I ask you, how much DEX are getting huge volumes these days? compared with the centralized exchange site and DEX is charing a little fee caused by anytime you must pay to the blockchain and not with the developer of the dex. The majority of developers are going for centralized exchange site What is your point? That's like arguing back in 2010, that BTC was useless, because it didn't have an exchange? Or claiming that Facebook would never succeed, because we had Myspace.. The crypto world is forever changing, and if you invest based on what's happening RIGHT NOW, contra what you believe will be BIG someday, you wont profit as much. This is the same logic as saying: "Naah, Why would I buy BNB coins for $0.1. This exchange has NO VOLUME" Yet we've seen the price rise to $20+ since these guys listened to the crypto community. Let me ask you a different question, WHY did Binance launch their OWN "DEX" ? Answer me that.
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Invest based on market trends, and what you believe will be the next big thing.
Personally, I believe DEX projects will be the next thing, as we've seen a multiude of new DEX's popping up lately. I'm sticking with what I think is the best one for now though. Blocknet, who's been developing this since they launched in 2014.
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The central banks are afraid of losing power. That's pure FACT, they are afraid of losing their control over all of us, and decentralized trading platforms like the Blocknet DEX, including many others scares them.
You can move incredible amounts of money anonymous with these DEX's in the future, with no one knowing. You can't audit these exchanges, force KYC, or anything else like it.
This is bullish news, once again!
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I watched it. In fairness the explanation is awesome but I can still feel the shilling when he somehow speaks. DEX cant br shutdown? I dont think so, have you heard the news before about etherdelta paying some money to SEC for some violations? Clearly the authority can shut down any business that dont comply with their regulations. He is defending DEX now cause of his just opened up new Dex. Clearly the goal is to gain sympathy.
A real DEX cannot be shut down, since it's owned by nobody. It's run by users, not any company. Even if some government tries to force down the DEX, or ban it, they wont be able to. You are completely right, I laugh at the news that there is a new decentralized exchange on which you must pass verification in order to use it, because the meaning of decentralization is anonymity, and I have also seen cases where user accounts on decentralized exchanges were blocked by the owner of the exchange. I think that over time, decentralization will not remain at all due to such tricks of the government towards cryptocurrency and the blockchain as a whole. I'm not agree with you! I believe that it is necessary to do less decentralization, since due to the fact that there is decentralization, cryptocurrency does not develop on a national scale. After all, the government of large countries is afraid of cryptocurrency like fire and is trying by all means to regulate it. If there is less decentralization, there will be less regulation problems. So, on the one hand, you are right, but on the other, not. So I'm glad that there are dex exchanges that do not have 100% decentralization. You're clearly missing the bigger picture here dude. Cryptocurrencies was invented to give power back to the people. Centralized solutions benefits those who run it, and not the people per say. Adoption is happening, and quicker than I had ever imagined. Did you know you can get paid your salary in BTC in New Zealand? Or that 25,000 stores in France is gonna accept BTC by next year? Adoption is happening, and fast
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I really like decentralized exchanges and I hope that they will become popular in 2020. However, many people do not use decentralized exchanges due to trading volume.
honestly, it is not just the trading volume that I consider in choosing an exchange. I am also not certain to connect my wallet directly to the dex exchange, though I have the private key, the regulation, and convenience that a centralized exchange is what I want to consider. Most of the time, the volume in DEX is determined by traders, and it might not be the reason why people don't want to trade in DEX since the volume can be achieve if the crpyto do really is performing well in the market. It is the regulation that centralized exchange provides, despite of wallet security or also known as "not your keys, not your coins". True! A friend of mine has traded on DEX's for a few months already, and otherwise used exchanges with no KYC. He's a very "private" person, told me NOT to tell anyone of our friends that he even owns any crypto. There's a LOT of people who straight up AVOID exchanges with KYC, because they want to remain private. Makes sense, it's the reason BTC was created in the first place. It's nobodys business what you trade and hold. Guess what? KYC/AML is coming to every exchange, be it a CEX or a DEX. No it's not. What makes you even think that? A real DEX is not owned by anyone. Based on your logic, everyone of us would have to undergo KYC every time we access the internet, which isn't true at all. Use a prepaid phone, and jump on an open Wifi connection, and you're pretty much anonymous. I think you need to do some research here buddy, as decentralized trading works just like when you download torrents. These transactions happens between users, and no one else.
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I really like decentralized exchanges and I hope that they will become popular in 2020. However, many people do not use decentralized exchanges due to trading volume.
honestly, it is not just the trading volume that I consider in choosing an exchange. I am also not certain to connect my wallet directly to the dex exchange, though I have the private key, the regulation, and convenience that a centralized exchange is what I want to consider. Most of the time, the volume in DEX is determined by traders, and it might not be the reason why people don't want to trade in DEX since the volume can be achieve if the crpyto do really is performing well in the market. It is the regulation that centralized exchange provides, despite of wallet security or also known as "not your keys, not your coins". True! A friend of mine has traded on DEX's for a few months already, and otherwise used exchanges with no KYC. He's a very "private" person, told me NOT to tell anyone of our friends that he even owns any crypto. There's a LOT of people who straight up AVOID exchanges with KYC, because they want to remain private. Makes sense, it's the reason BTC was created in the first place. It's nobodys business what you trade and hold.
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I watched it. In fairness the explanation is awesome but I can still feel the shilling when he somehow speaks. DEX cant br shutdown? I dont think so, have you heard the news before about etherdelta paying some money to SEC for some violations? Clearly the authority can shut down any business that dont comply with their regulations. He is defending DEX now cause of his just opened up new Dex. Clearly the goal is to gain sympathy.
A real DEX cannot be shut down, since it's owned by nobody. It's run by users, not any company. Even if some government tries to force down the DEX, or ban it, they wont be able to.
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1) I wont invest in ICO money grab projects. 2) I'm investing in proof of stake projects almost exclusively (besides BTC) 3) I'm investing in projects with working products, and active developments. I'm accumulating BLOCK right now, since it has so much potential coming the next bull run. It's an old project, but with a working project. They never HYPED it up like projects such as "NEO", or "TRX", which I like. Their DEX works pretty well, and I'm sure more and more people will realize how awesome and convenient it is trading without risking your funds on centralized exchanges.
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BTC, ETH, and perhaps XRP. These are safe bets.
One could speculate that the next bull run could be even bigger than the last one due to institutional investors, and rich/wealthy people including big corporations wants to join in. Some of these entites might not want to disclose their holdings, or fear that their private info's are exposed to leaks (Like we saw with the Panama Leakage a few years back!)
So a project like Blocknet, isn't a bad hold either, considering that DEX's will quite possibly yield HUGE demand moving forward. Blocknet made the first working DEX on the market, and yet is so inexpensive to accumulate right now, considering it supply is so small. Binance knew DEX's would likely dominate at some point, so they made their own "DEX", which is fully controlled by them, so it's not really that centralized sadly.
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Recently got interested in Blocknet, and actually found this thread through search. Surprised that this project doesn't get more attention than it does currently, considering what they have accomplished already with a working product, and decent exchanges. It's seems like people only care about NEW projects, no matter how shitty they are or what they promise. This one seems solid, and I'm buying as long as it's as undervalued as it is. I'm sure Blocknet's true evalution will show some day once the market matures a little.
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This exact thread and all it's replies is the EXACT reason why you should look into DEX projects like Blocknet, who was the first project to develop a working DEX. It's by far the best DEX out there, and I believe it will outperform a LOT of alts next bull run for this very reason.
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Happens when BTC enters a real bull mode again. BTC has gone up and down for the past 2 years, never reaching a new all time high, the vast majority of people doesn't care, but don't be fooled, a new altcoin season WILL come eventually.
There is so many crypto use cases, partnerships, services, and products coming, that eventually people will start to speculate again, it's just human nature really.
A trend I've been seeing lately is that most people are SICK of KYC and sharing their personal details everywhere, which is why I believe DEX projects like Blocknet will be MASSIVE performers moving forward.
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$100/coin is easily achievable due to the low circulating supply of coins. I did my research, and compared to other DEX solutions, BLOCK is the clear winner of them all.
Any reason why there is not BisQ on that chart you presented? Care to share what makes BisQ stand out? I'd love to know
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This has been a very interesting project for far too long. It is a shame this has not had more support and interest.
How much leakage was there to Binance? how much of the secret sauce did they manage to sample?
They tried but got nothing: "We were fortunate enough to not share anything private with Binance on this listing application – everything on the shared document included answers that we have otherwise already made public in some form or fashion: our Discord and other chats, whitepaper, Github, AMAs, or if you stopped by our booth and chatted with us at the many events we’ve attended.
However, other projects might not have been so fortunate, and hopefully this news helps raise awareness."From here: https://blocknet.co/statement-regarding-blocknet-and-binwance/That is good to hear. Thanks for the information. Would be crazy to divulge years of work to others that would gladly steal it for their own competitive edge. I saw this Binance scandal right here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSCAelH_iukI stopped trading at Binance from the moment I saw this video. No joke
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At this stage in the development of the cryptocurrency market, I would not invest in such a project. There are already a lot of hardware wallets. But there is no one to use them. Until mass adoption of cryptocurrencies takes place, participation in such projects - it is simply stomping on the spot.
Stakenet's hardware wallet is just a tiny piece of their project. They work on Lightning Network dApps, which will be extremely convenient to use as a consumer, since it allows for unlimited transactions/s, and instant trading on their Lightning DEX. There are like 3 very known hardware wallets, more on the market means more competition, which means a better product to the end consumer. That's a good thing!
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I'd love to beta test, how do I participate in that? Simple! Head over to the official Stakenet Discord and ask if you can join the next round of testing in the chatroom. Thanks I'll do that! Any ETA on final release?
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Ledger and Trezor would be both good examples, erhaps, if they would make a crypto. If the project would be functional and benificial for the investors, I think it would be a win-win situation for them. If the project won't be that much successful, to be practical, they would have something that they would be able to use. This might be a silly opinion, but I do really think that this is more likely to happen. So maybe I would be investing in such project if ever.
Well, I guess the exciting part here is that, Stakenet is not only building their own Hardware Wallet. They are building their own Lightning DEX, multi currency Lightning Wallet, and much much more. The Hardware wallet is just a tiny bit of their project, which is kind of cool
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