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161  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin=Money(?) on: May 05, 2014, 07:53:49 AM
I would say Bitcoin isn't an actual form on money, more like virtual property that is traded in place of money.
How is it not an actual form of money?

Quote from: Wikipedia
"Money is any object or verifiable record that is generally accepted as payment for goods and services and repayment of debts in a particular country or socio-economic context."
Bitcoin can be accepted as payment for goods and services, and repayment of debts in many countries and socio-economic context. Bitcoin is money.
162  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: the reality of bitcon adoption on: May 04, 2014, 10:08:04 PM
I'm a 47 year old, white male. I was raised on a farm and have been a farmer most of my life and I graduated from high school in the 80's, before the internet. I have no further education than that. I also worked in a large steel mill for a lot of years, and still work in the steel industry today.  I own Bitcoins.   It's people of my demographic that are going to make or break Bitcoin. Adoption will happen but, it will be very slow unless people can get the message out there more. Most people I know have heard of Bitcoin but, know very little about it, and what they think they know is usually the bad stereotypical stuff.
It's nice that you own bitcoin, you're a totally different demographic than the usual internet geek who hopped on the train early, but I don't think at this point any particular group themselves will "make or break" bitcoin. Bitcoin will always find a level of existence at its reflective level of adoption.

As of 2014, bitcoin belongs to the innovators, early adopters, internet geeks, and trading speculators. As more and more businesses open themselves to bitcoin, the adoption and technology will just keep on expanding.
163  Economy / Speculation / Re: How True that Bitcoin is Failing on: May 04, 2014, 09:05:29 PM
Both Big Finance and Bitcoin are scheme/scam for sure, the only different is that Big Finances are sometimes able to get government support, Bitcoin is supported by bunch of what(college kids?)

Yes, and that's all it needs to survive.
164  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Ashton Kutcher "Bitcoin...sort of like internet in the 80s." on: May 04, 2014, 08:59:07 PM
Most people think that Ashton Kutcher is a dumbass because of his good looks and the fact that he plays a dumbass on TV... most people forget that he has a biochemical engineering degree and a VC investor in several successful startups including Skype and Spotify...

I think haters here are just jealous that he's young, good looking, and actually smart.
165  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A new unit=1/1000000BTC. Bit is already taken, how to call a new unit/symbol? on: May 04, 2014, 08:50:13 PM
Your poll is biased, you know that?
166  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: FoxNews: DoD Investigating Bitcoin as possible terrorist threat on: May 04, 2014, 08:48:51 PM
Remember that most people who tune into Fox News are old and cranky:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2550377/The-average-age-Fox-Viewers-68-majority-politically-conservative-white.html
167  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Ƶ = µBTC on: May 04, 2014, 06:07:36 AM
Nope, too weird sounding. Bits is still better.
168  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Proposed shape for the “bits” symbol is a square, and to keep the gold color. on: May 03, 2014, 10:04:59 PM
Awesome design. I approve.
169  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Let's adapt the term Bitcoin cent on: May 03, 2014, 09:59:17 PM
OP: Bitcent in your current form is not future proof. An example that I've used time and again:

Suppose that one BTC = $100,000, and Joe blow wants to order a $5 cheeseburger in BTC. Here's a few different scenarios:

A. "That'll be 0.00005 BTC please."
B. "That'll be 0.005 Bitcent please."
C. "That'll be 0.05 mBTC please."
D. "That'll be 50 uBTC please."
E. "That'll be 50 bits please."

A, B, and C are eliminated right off the bat because nobody wants to recall how many zeroes they've put after the decimal.

This leaves us with reasonable D and E, but the word "bit" is far more marketable than "micro-BTC". Micro-BTC just doesn't roll off the tongue like bits does.

Your bitcent, or one-hundreth of a bitcoin, will become obsolete rather quickly once bitcoin's valuation rises several magnitudes.

The current consensus is moving towards a bit as a standard bitcoin transaction sub-unit, and satoshi as cent by implication.
170  Economy / Speculation / Re: Which Chinese exchange to close next? on: May 03, 2014, 08:27:50 PM
I seriously hope all of the Chinese exchanges close. After taking us to the moon, they've been nothing but poison to the BTC economy.
171  Economy / Speculation / Re: Are we the "Berkshire Hathaway" stock holders of the future? on: May 03, 2014, 05:49:59 PM
Five years and over a million percent rise since inception, let me know when Berkshire Hathaway can do the same in fifty years.

172  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin is a shit investment (this year) on: May 03, 2014, 05:41:03 PM
The amount of butthurt speculators is strong in this thread.
173  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 1,000,000 bits = 1 bitcoin. Future-proofing Bitcoin for common usage? VOTE on: May 03, 2014, 07:27:20 AM
We are talking about future proofing so let's make 1 BTC = $100,000 for easy math.

Suppose Joe blow wants to order a $5 cheeseburger in BTC. Here's a few different scenarios:

A. "That'll be 0.00005 BTC please."
B. "That'll be 0.05 mBTC please."
C. "That'll be 50 uBTC please."
D. "That'll be 50 bits please."

A and B are eliminated right off the bat because nobody wants to recall how many zeroes they've put after the decimal.

This leaves us with reasonable C and D, but the word "bit" is far more marketable than "micro-BTC". Micro-BTC just doesn't roll off the tongue like bits does.

For those who say we have MicroBitcoin already, it's not about us... we get it, we're fine. We're already invested into BTC. Get over yourself. It's about widespread adoption transcending mathematical literacy, and "bit" is the ideal solution concerning avoiding decimals as well as ownership psychology.
174  Economy / Speculation / Re: ardent speculators: consider shorting before 4th May 00:00GMT (that means 3rd) on: May 03, 2014, 12:57:13 AM
The market has had 5 months to price this in already  Roll Eyes

Which means you ware caught by surprise a few times during the months, right? ( a really kind wink) I am not surprised even 1 time, because I predicted the saga by 9th Jan (China goverment will cripple bitcoin operation, posted on this forum) and I observed that this is not fully priced in till 11th April bottom (which I also predicted, on this sub-forum). I often find people tends to marginalize this world-most-wealthy-organization, like Chinese marginalize the Federal Reserve. PBOC has a vast ego like other top Chinese governments, However it's not my ego at work. I truly hope that: the day people don't care about China's news come earlier and that I found my knowledge of China useless. I try to be helpful: when I really think the next bottom is in I'll say that at the risk of being a bad fortune-teller.

Don't waste your breath debating with these retards zhangweiwu. Time and time again your input has proven both insightful into the workings of Chinese culture and also into the implications that it has had on Bitcoin price. Anyone with their heads screwed on will value any comments that you have to make. Let the Kool-Aid heads drink Kool-Aid and suffer the hangovers of their own stupidity...again....and again...AND AGAIN...and again and again and again and again and again...........
+1
175  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 1,000,000 bits = 1 bitcoin. Future-proofing Bitcoin for common usage? VOTE on: May 02, 2014, 06:44:15 AM
Agreed.

The negative psychology of owning fractions of a bitcoin is a real adoption barrier that needs addressing. It is one of the issues that dogecoin have successfully addressed.

Bit by default is the best way of dealing with scalability in the foreseeable future.
176  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Free BTC at MIT on: April 30, 2014, 11:53:12 PM
Airdropping bitcoin into what is one of the most technically literate groups in the world is the perfect move.
177  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: It's Public Now: MasterCard Offically Lobbying on Bitcoin in U.S Congress on: April 30, 2014, 11:49:29 PM
There is literally no fucking way they are lobbying anything in bitcoin's favor. Prepare for a fight.
178  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A Proposal for the Mitigation of Bitcoin's Linguistic Transaction Costs on: April 29, 2014, 07:20:05 AM
   100,000,000  One Bitcoin
    _10,000,000  Ten MEGAtoshi
    __1,000,000  MEGAtoshi
    ____100,000  Hundred KILOtoshis
    _____10,000  Ten KILOtoshis
    _______1000 KILOtoshi
    ________100 Hundred Satoshis
    _________10 Ten Satoshis
    __________1 One Satoshi
+1

This is a good system that lets people feel they have many units in their wallet without turning the nomenclature upside-down. Very Doge.
179  Economy / Speculation / Re: I give up on: April 29, 2014, 06:57:47 AM
Buy it back soon, or get left behind:



You can forgive yourself for losing a couple of thousands, but you will never forgive yourself for missing out on millions.

We are in the eye of the storm. You can choose to sink or ride it out.
Can you please post this chart again with current prices on it.
Sure.

180  Economy / Speculation / Re: I give up on: April 29, 2014, 06:48:03 AM
Buy it back soon, or get left behind:



You can forgive yourself for losing a couple of thousands, but you will never forgive yourself for missing out on millions.

We are in the eye of the storm. You can choose to sink or ride it out.
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