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161  Economy / Reputation / Re: VOD must be removed from DT list. on: September 22, 2020, 09:27:29 PM
Positive comments are also welcomed, with the same rules to be fair.  Smiley
Thus I didn't figure I was wasting my time writing a post in your thread.  I guessed wrong, but no harm, no foul.

Ah, my bad for not being more clear.   I think they were coming down the isle with the drink cart and I was rushed.  Smiley

People can post good or bad things I've done, with evidence.  (For example, I created BPIP, or I red tagged over a thousand scammers).   But I really don't want to be seen as deleting nonsense posts and just leaving the compliments.

I've been such an active part of this community for so long, they are many discussions about me - I wanted a place to concisely summarize bad things I've done so when sociopaths say I'm bad for the community, it's a simple link to show I've done nothing wrong.  Smiley

Lol how will you manage that? You going to nutildah your post history?

You've done lots wrong.  Even better now you are demanding evidence for claims made. That's just what I was hoping you would say.
Hehe you first.
162  Economy / Reputation / Re: List of things Vod has done wrong. (Non-modded / Non-affiliated thread) on: September 22, 2020, 09:24:25 PM
First I will say he is not the worst on DT1

However vod

1. Admitted being afraid to tag lauda or exclude them because he was scared they would ruin his account.
Therefore didn't create a warning for others due to putting his own self interest first.

2. Vod is a trust abuser
a/ I notice he gave a user a red tag for deleting his 3rd accusation of OG being a liar when the thread starter stipulated to keep repeating this claim on his thread Vod must provide evidence. Vod claimed the user was preventing or perverting his message when the same accusation still remained there 2x. So nothing would have been any different.
b/ vod also gave a user a red tag for simply telling the truth about Vods self confessed brain death. He then said he never even said he had experienced serious brain death.

3. Most seriously of All. The thing that convinced me Vod has gone rogue was that he deliberately assisted in resisting a flag for his proven scammer pal lauda. The independently verifiable evidence of the scamming was on the flag linking page. He has refused to even present his reasoning for opposing the flag. Nobody was able to refute the evidence because it is one of the most conclusive examples of lying and deceiving for financial gain I have seen.

4. He is constantly praising and protecting 2 proven scammers lauda and tman and misleading people as to their true characters. He also seems to collude or be close with other scammy individuals that share this scammer protecting and facilitating behavior.

He is not a scammer himself but is a pathetic old fool that will protect and enable scammers if they will be his friends. This is still dangerous behavior and he should be kept away from DT.


163  Economy / Reputation / Re: VOD must be removed from DT list. on: September 22, 2020, 07:36:09 PM
just browse his sent trust history and look for anything that sounds like a whining thin-skinned narcissist that he is.

He's deleted a LOT of information from this forum - that's typical of people who have been honest, right?   Roll Eyes

This thread can be locked - the only people wanting me removed are scammers with a lot of negs.  

Are you referring to nutildah?

Can you post some proof that the only ones wanting you removed are scammers?
Sounds like a lie.

I want you removed. Please present the evidence of me scamming.
I can present the evidence of your 2 pals lauda and tman scamming

I mean you do understand the definition of scamming is lying or deceiving for financial gain right?

Okay present your conclusive proof. I'll wait. Or maybe you are just telling lies.
164  Economy / Reputation / Re: Are the proven scammers on DT1 mentally deficient ? on: September 22, 2020, 07:01:26 PM
..

Can you provide legitimate evidence that you are eligible to diagnose a health condition of anonymous people via the internet?
calling someone mentally deficient just by reading a few posts, requires a good knowledge of human psychology, it will be interesting to introduce yourself to us in full. Probably you will get more attention if we know that you are competent.

Lol, yes doctor I'll get right on that.

I'll also send you a pic of  my 11 inches of meat your wife has been examining lately. So she can vouch its doctor KaneVWE
Then again I could have confused you with another asslicking cuck. They're all the same on here.

Is being thick a health condition? It could though be due to poor breeding and being abandoned at birth.
Read it again.

Why don't you have a go with the independently verifiable evidence of scamming or scammer facilitating?

Do you want the links? Or too afraid?
I really want to hear your diagnosis.

165  Economy / Reputation / Re: VOD must be removed from DT list. on: September 22, 2020, 06:34:36 PM
I'm shocked you would believe an anonymous coward so quickly.   You can talk to dragonvslinux, who knows why I left the feedback.
Well, I checked dragonvslinux's feedback, and the only reason you gave for the positive was that OgNasty's feedback cannot inherently be trusted, because it's OgNasty.  Dragonvslinux has plenty of other negative feedbacks on his profile, many less recent than OgNasty's that you didn't see fit to counter.  That's just how it looks to me.

Og's neg trust is the only DT neg trust rating on dragonvslinux: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1170966;dt

It was posted in retaliation for dragonvslinux expressing his opinion in the Vod/Og dispute: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5136576.msg54063055#msg54063055

Imagine if Og dug up some old untrusted rating in your trust history and re-posted it with DT visibility just because you said something he doesn't like. How would that look to you? Except that he's too chickenshit to do that to you or to me or to anyone he perceives as not weak enough for him to trample on.

BTW this is not an isolated incident either, he has a habit of abusing red trust to fight personal disputes:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1668017;dt
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=479624;dt
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=313016;dt
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=138940;dt

There's probably more that I'm forgetting now, just browse his sent trust history and look for anything that sounds like a whining thin-skinned narcissist that he is.

Lol why would anyone be scared of you or hahaha thepharmacist?
Please stop making up silly stories suchmoron

This thread is about vod being removed from DT.
Why are you attempting to bring in off topic irrelevant incidents?
Or because you feel there is a connection is this allowed? Lol

Vod is a trust abuser and I listed several other independently verifiable events that automatically should preclude him from DT.

This other off topic attack on OG via dragon is the sort of thing you claim is trolling when others do it.

Also it seems you are now making up shit as you go along claiming OG would be scared of you or thepharmacist.
That is too funny. Who could be scared of thepharmacist haha the very notion is completely ludicrous.
I mean it is conceivable that in your case 200kg of lard could be scary. I'm into bbw though so I'm fearless where you're concerned.

Most of DT1 should be removed. Vod too but he is not the worst.

Which DT1 here doesn't use red tags to punish people for daring to mention inconvenient events from their past. Or just saying anything they dont approve of. Or just for fun.
This comes from suchmoon who opposes flags on proven scammers and has those scammers for ages on his trust includes.
The reader should note suchmoon is full of shit and double standards.
166  Economy / Reputation / Re: Are the proven scammers on DT1 mentally deficient ? on: September 22, 2020, 06:19:06 PM
<snip cryptohunter image>
Yeah, this will probably be my last post in one of OP's threads (and I'm sure there will be many more to come), but this part of his post bolded below completely convinced me that it's CH we're dealing with.  Also kind of sounds like TECSHARE, but I don't know that he's ever used alt accounts to get his point across.

Or do we appoint a someone who actually investigates the independently verifiable evidence and rewards the whistleblowers ( the hyper trolls) and punishes the corrupt greedy scammy mentally deficient  DT1?
Why don't you go right ahead an appoint someone who will do exactly what you want them to do:  investigate and then punish the guilty DT1 members?  Wait a sec.  Why not just drop the investigation part of that and skip straight to the punishment phase, since you've obviously pre-judged certain members who you won't name.  

Oh wait, didn't you state in the title of this thread that the DT1 scammers are "proven" scammers?  

What if an independent 3rd party doesn't reach the same conclusions as you?  That's rhetorical.  You'll say the party was biased or paid off or whatever, because that's how your mind operates.  And I'd love to know exactly who you're blaming and what you're blaming them for.  You can answer that or not; I don't actually care.  Signing out of your threads for good.

An independent 3rd party is not required although, how about G Maxwell? He has seen the evidence of lauda being a scamming piece of dirt.
When there is independently verifiable evidence of undeniable scamming or scammer facilitating then there is no need to ask for opinion.
The definition of scamming is clearly defined.  Telling lies or deliberately misleading people for your own financial gain is scamming.
If there is independently verifiable evidence  of that taking place then guess what ?there is no need for opinions.

Just like if someone is running around claiming anyone selling their account is facilitating scams. They go further and say they are so certain that selling your account facilitates scamming that they will spend time collecting the details of those that do it and create warnings for other members by putting red tags on them.

Then they themselves decide to sell their account for a very small  amount of bitcoin.

They are undeniably a hypocrite and willing to facilitate scams for a small fee.

Then when caught they delete their post history and try to hide the details.

Start to get the idea now?

Do you need a 3rd party to confirm 2 + 2 =4 ?

Also just to ask? Why do you speak as if I should be in the least troubled if you read or do not read my posts ?
Are you forgetting that you are simply a noob trash broke bum that is pathetic excuse for a trader and has no skin in this game at all?
Not to mention you are a proven sneaky sockpuppet sig spammer who got busted trying to jump from poorly paying sig to a slightly better one? While spamming racist trolling crap everywhere?

Do you want to discuss your own case? Should we get a 3rd party to investigate how the fuck anyone should listen to anything you have to say. Especially when you are sharting out condemnation of other " shit posters" that you claim should be banned for being financially motivated. Lol

Oh yeah, and having admitted that even though you were too stupid to know if lauda really did pull an escrow scam you would still support him due to having got accustomed to the taste of his asshole?

So, yeah, I hope you start to get the idea I dont give a fuck about your low functioning ass slobbering opinions on anything?
Why would I? You are not capable of forming useful or credible opinions as we see.

I remember when you joined, I thought what a fucking retarded little pleb. My opinion of you has plummeted over the years.
Now how many PIVX do you want to buy you dumb scammer supporting dreg? I have a few more you can snatch up.

Legend DT1 and merit source thesmarmacist.

Now fuck off unless you wish to deny anything I have just said about you or any of your scumbag pals on DT1.
You won't.

@Slowdeath

Unlike your pathetic self,  who knows you can't achieve or change anything..... well..  I'm the opposite.

This likely stems from you peasant DNA.
This defeatist attitude of yours is creating an unpleasant smell on my thread.
Please refrain from slobbering in my threads in future.

See the very funny post someone once made in meta about the guy who had his car stolen and went to the corrupt police station
Cheer yourself up. Who knows...
In your next life you could come back as me. Or meet a partner in this life that has slept with me previously.
Things are looking up for you kid. I see it in the stars.

No offense friends, just installing some reality into your lives.
167  Economy / Reputation / Re: DT members are allowed to use lies as reason to give red tags? on: September 22, 2020, 01:48:46 PM
Can DT members just make up anything to justify a red tag?
DT Members is corrupted. Suchmoon and other trolls occupied a whole forum. These maniacs like suchmoon should be stopped

I couldn't agree more based on the independently verifiable evidence I have reviewed.

The problem is the merit and trust system have actually worked to crush the freedom of speech here and create an environment where from within DT1 you can scam with impunity.

On top of this once you're in and a merit source you're almost entrenched and can not be removed.
Of course just a handful of smart dedicated and knowledgeable people could finish the group and crush their sponsors rep.
Sponsors are the weak link. They should not want to be associated with scammers or those protecting scammers.
Just 3 or 4 dedicated posters could crush those sponsors.
Threads kept active asking their sponsors why they are sponsoring scammers and extortionists or trust abusers liars trolls etc
Those threads kept active enough would eventually crack the rep of the sponsor.
You need hard indisputable evidence. That is not hard to find If you know where to look.


These people only wish to take control of the forum and crush free speech for financial gain
Take away the financial incentive they are done.

168  Economy / Reputation / Re: Member Jollygood of bitcointalk trust abuser and general imbecile. on: September 22, 2020, 01:31:07 PM
JollyGood still seems to be a general imbecile. Can't imagine how low life troll he is...

Shame on DT for still keeping that biased trust abuser there.

Well to be fair I mean jollygood https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5229023.0

 is in good company there on dirty turds 1.
He's just a dumb fool who's not smart enough to conceal his blatant double standards and scammer facilitating ways.
There are others far more insidious.

Jollygood ? Where did this noob trash spring up from anyway. Never heard of this pleb on any project I've taken interest in the past and that is a great many projects.
169  Economy / Reputation / Re: Are the proven scammers on DT1 mentally deficient ? on: September 22, 2020, 01:21:59 PM
Why don't you say their names? If you say they are scammers, you shouldn't have a problem saying who they are.

I have no problem at saying who they are.

Search on meta for the dirty turds thread there. The evidence is all therein contained.

If you have questions then ask for further clarification.

Or just scan reputation.

170  Economy / Reputation / Are the proven scammers on DT1 mentally deficient ? on: September 22, 2020, 09:42:35 AM
Let's keep this simple. I will use numbers up to 10 only.

There is a strong case that shows DT1 with undeniable financially motivated wrong doing in their histories are mentally deficient.


It goes like this.

1. You locate the independently verifiable evidence of their financially motivated wrong doing and present it in public.
2. They read it and
a/ red trust your account on the basis of being a troll and telling lies
b/ then sometimes run and edit their post histories.
3. You ask them to present the evidence that you have attempted to pass off provably false information as true aka trolling
4. They run away.
5. You ask them again.
6. They claim you are now a hyper troll.
7. All their DT1 friends come and red trust for being a troll and defamer
8. You ask them to present the evidence to corroborate their claims.
9. They run away
10. They keep crying that the mods dont ban people who present evidence of their financially motivated wrong doing aka hyper trolls.

Hahaha

This just repeats forever?

Or do we appoint a someone who actually investigates the independently verifiable evidence and rewards the whistleblowers ( the hyper trolls) and punishes the corrupt greedy scammy mentally deficient  DT1?


Now don't get confused guys. Work through the numbers. Have a lay down then vote for the correct option

There are no other possible explanations so dont bother asking for any. Just lay down a little bit longer if you are still suffering from delusions there should be  

Looking forward to some great human centipede excretion from all the merit morsel mega munching moronic muppets.

But on a very serious note how long can this cycle repeat.

We must go with the independently verifiable evidence these deranged scum bags can't just keep claiming the undeniable truth about them is trolling and begging for those daring to utter the truth about them be banned?

Get any scum bag with financially motivated wrong doing off DT1. Who the fuck puts thieves to work at the bank ? Rapists and pedos as school wardens. Convicted murderers and mental patients as judges.

Bitcointalk scratching its head? Strange the forum is dying and all the rev is going to a handful of proven scammers and their pals ?
Weird how hyper trolls tell the truth and have independently verifiable evidence to corroborate and the most trusted DT1 scam, trust abuse and lie and have no evidence to substantiate their bogus claims ?

Wonder if something went wrong :*(



171  Economy / Reputation / Re: Nutildah -willing to facilitate scammers for around 300bucks?? deleting evidence on: September 22, 2020, 09:15:56 AM
Nutildah of bitcointalk  is still abusing the trust system.

He is making false claims about me.

He is also a proven scammer facilitator for pay who tries to edit his post history to hide his past financially motivated wrong doing.
172  Economy / Reputation / Re: LFC_bitcoin sending PMs to his friends to oppose flag and bribing DT inclusion on: September 22, 2020, 09:13:55 AM
More nonsense from this multi-scamming user who has been exposed in this thread but refuses to post there as he has literally no defence thanks to the efforts by marlboroza: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5213922.0



Attack from LFC_Bitcoin against me for presenting some solid facts about the situation and asking some on point questions, related to the issues.

*TRASH*


The reader must exercise caution when dealing with the scam facilitator jollygood

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5229023.0

It should be noted he is devious and uses scam busting as a cover to conceal his scammer facilitating.
It appears he busts scams then " other dt1" will offer help to repatriate them to the forum and escrow for them for a fee

Nice racket.

Lfcbitcoin is a confirmed trust abuser and proven liar. Jollygood trying to defend them is further indication of his true nature.

See page 6 of this thread for conclusive proof of lie.
173  Other / Meta / Re: Can't debunk a persons points? is it acceptable to demand the discussion stops? on: September 22, 2020, 09:00:54 AM
Lauda's gang has tagged our project after of our refusal to donate their scamish escrow services. They has been forcing us to coop with them. This is inconceivable. This is crushing of our freedom & rights

The tags are justified. You are spreading lies and delusional remarks that mislead a lot of people and scam them. Trusting you would be a big mistake so having you tag is normal especially here in the forum. Go spread your lies elsewhere where others can't tag you lol.

As if you are doing this community a good service. What a delusional bunch of cult members. Just wait for this faketoshi to get in jail and shut up for the moment please.

These are strong accusations. I hope that you can corroborate them with evidence that stands up to scrutiny.

If they offered to escrow and then started calling him a scam after he refused then that fits with their MO.  I have seen them in the past offer to work with scams their pal jollygood says he has busted. So I am inclined to believe what he says is true.

Dt1 is a protection racket. They will bust scams they can't benefit from.They have no qualms working with scams if they can get money from it. Suchmoon knows this but will only act against them if they call her fat as we have seen. Why would you hold back this kind of info until they dare to offend you personally.

I am not saying bitcoinSV is a scam I have not looked into that project.

Clearly many are missing the point.  This is not about tags and flags. Although they crush free speech without a doubt as does merit.

This is referring to idiots who come to a legitimate debate or discussion where the points made in the OP are entirely valid and have not been debunked and the debate is ongoing. Then start demanding the discussion stops and people stop interacting with the OP.

Nobody cares whether in your anecdotal experience you have not been at the receiving end . That is irrelevant.  That's like saying to a rape victim well I think the mass rapist is a cool guy because he didnt rape me.

The asslicking noobs that hang around meta waiting for a merit morsel as they dream of chipmixer sigs are the lowest form of shit.
They have no real knowledge of this forum the members histories and just shart out what they think their merit and DT1 masters want to hear.

It seems DT1 are unable to speak the truth. As the example with lfcbitcoin being conclusively  proven a liar by PMs that were revealed. Not one DT1 could admit lfcbitcoin was a liar. Just an endless tirade of excuses and counter allegations.

Now DT1 can not say : of course it is unacceptable to stalk members threads and then demand legitmate debates and discussions stop and people should not interact with the OP.  

Everytime there is corruption or scamming or lying or trust abuse or attempting to crush free and open legitmate debate by a DT1 they will all collude and deny or excuse it.  I mean the exception is if a lower popularity DT messes with another more popular DT1s sponsor or messes with that DT1 in anyway then you will see a shake up and some factions appear within DT1.

However for the most part DT1 is a colluding protection racket with mods also being part of this in the past and perhaps still are.

Watch what happens when I start turning up to proven scammer or proven willing scam facilitators for pay or proven liars threads and insert images that say dont feed the scammer or dont encourage the liar or dont feed the real troll? On all of their threads?
You think mods will not delete them at once?

What's the difference? Well I can present undeniable proof they are scammers and trust abuses and liars and scam facilitators for pay.
They can not show any evidence of my knowingly presenting false information as true aka trolling at all.

This is a new level of retardation from mods allowing member to demand legitmate debates are stopped and members must not interact further. It just demonstrates how corrupt the forum is. Well we will see what happens when I start splattering my little pictures all over their threads demanding their discussions stop and not to feed the real trolls.

Then the noob ass lickers will sing a different tune.

Then we can have another new thread comparing the actions of the mods and why they are deleting my little pics and not DT1s little pics. The difference will be I can produce evidence to corroborate my little pictures claims and DT1 can not

How corrupt would that make the mods for deleting pics that present the truth but allowing pics or even bestowing merit on pics that present lies ?
174  Other / Meta / Re: Revoke self-moderating privileges from korner and other hypertrolls on: September 22, 2020, 08:22:01 AM
@suchmoon read and think before responding.

There will be no more responding since you're not faithful to me - you're still trolling other threads. I'm heartbroken.

I think it's time for you to create a new account to sneak past ignore lists.

Clearly you know you've been defeated again. Your specious arguments have been debunked.
Your argument hinges upon

1. A definition of trolling that you've
a/ you've made up and doesn't match the forums
b/ would mean nearly every member is a troll
c/ would starve the reader of important information
d/ allows scammers on DT to punish any member that presents evidence of their scamming as trolls.

2. Made up events that you can not even find examples of to present to corroborate your fantasies
Whenever you or lauda are asked to present the evidence or examples of what you are claiming to have happened you simply run away.

Clearly this all demonstrates that when you say " hyper trolls " you mean people with legitimate gripes or people that frequently tell the truth about scammers on DT1. Therefore penalizing them in anyway would be unthinkable.
All members should be prevented from creating self moderated threads in rep or none should.

Dt1 are already retaining all the best rev streams  and using DT amd merit to scam with impunity and crush other members free speech, they dont need additional advantages.
175  Economy / Reputation / Re: LFC_bitcoin sending PMs to his friends to oppose flag and bribing DT inclusion on: September 22, 2020, 12:00:18 AM
Since the evidence is clearly there of lfcbitcoin lying on page 6 with relation to his abuse of the trust system why is he not blacklisted now?
176  Other / Meta / Re: Revoke self-moderating privileges from korner and other hypertrolls on: September 21, 2020, 11:50:47 PM
I wonder what it is in the air that is making the usual trolls extra hyperactive. Their psychosis has been exacerbated by the global lockdown and now they won't rest until everybody knows they have mental/emotional problems. It's a weird, sad cry for help. However there's nothing we can actually do to help them.

Its kind of freeing ignoring them altogether because it allows me to focus on actually interesting things happening on the forum. If the mods don't ban the trolls then the next best thing is to just ignore them and attempt to starve them of attention. That's it. There's no better solution. If you engage them, they win, because that's what they want more than anything else.

Just don't fuel the cycle. Report troll posts as "trolling" and move on without engaging.

Spoken by another proven hypocrite and willful scam facilitator for pay.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5190369.0

Read the entire thread.

This is why their false claims of trolling are music honest members ears.

Of course these people want to control every single aspect of posting and have the DT and merit system under their control.

Imagine how much they detest their post histories that reveal what scum bags they are. They hate it so much they will try to sneakily edit them out and misrepresent their actions in a more favorable light.

They hate the truth.   They want to control peoples ability to locate the truth.

There is the clear evidence.  They want to tell you this is " trolling "

They are saying the independently verifiable evidence of their financially motivated wrongdoing is trolling. It is lies the say ? Lol
It is there in black and white by their own hand?

They say that telling the undeniable truth about them is " trolling" and telling the undeniable truth about several of them is " hyper trolling "

Fuck that must be the highest accolade on the entire forum to those that see through their bullshit.

Look at the crazy defense mounted in that thread I have just quoted. It's laughable.  

When the " trolling " doesn't work. They claim presenting the undeniable truth about their past financially motivated wrongdoing is mental illness and sad Sad

This is a pattern of denial, acceptance but excuses,  moving on to irrelevant unsubstantiated personal attack.
It's amusing to watch them squirm.



177  Other / Meta / Re: Revoke self-moderating privileges from korner and other hypertrolls on: September 21, 2020, 11:18:37 PM
@suchmoon read and think before responding.

There are 2 main issue with this debate thus far.

1. You want " trolling " to be defined as suits your needs. Not as it is explained in the rules as I quote below

Here is trolling explained in the rules and a global mod of 6 years explained why bct uses this

However, trolling isn't allowed. If a user is habitually posting obviously false nonsense ("obviously false nonsense" to an outsider, NOT to someone who follows or is involved in the discussion) just to stir up trouble, then it's considered trolling, which is prohibited. Such cases should be thoroughly documented in the report though (There are tons of reports that just say "trolling", but moderators don't have time to look through each user's post).

Obviously False nonsense.   To be not only proven false and totally debunked but so clearly and widely known as debunked that everyone would know about it. I am actually being generous saying that even if not widely known and accepted but there is evidence you can provide that conclusively debunks it then to repeat it again as true I would accept that as trolling.

A global mod for 6 years explained why this is this boards regulated definition of trolling.
There was a large debate about it with ch in meta.

Now as to you other specious suggestions and false allegations.

1. Speculation on alts accompanied by the corroborating evidence as in my above example don't make up a part of trolling. They are not at all trolling. They have nothing to do with trolling at all.

2. I would like an example of where I , ch, or Toaa have accused a member of a crime and have not supplied corroborating evidence. Evidence that is compelling. I want to see where any of the evidence was debunked. The evidence was independently verifiable  and conclusive in my opinion or at the least was never even in danger of being debunked. That is so far from trolling it is trolling to even suggest it was trolling.

Making it up? You are making this all up. Bring me examples. I have never seriously accused anyone of any crime without compelling  strong evidence to corroborate or even evidence that is undeniably conclusive.
Bring the specific example here and present it.

This is the same kind of false accusations lauda was making against CH. Ch challenged the scammer lauda multiple times to present his evidence of his claims and everytime lauda ran away because he could not.

The key points are there. If you can not accept the boards definition of trolling that is your own problem.

To say " inflammatory garbage" is the same as saying inflammatory ( which is irrelevant as explained by myself and the global mod who explained you would need complete personal knowledge of every member to know if something was being said to attack or inflame them personally ) garbage ( proven false ).

You are still running away from bringing specific examples of what you claim has taken place. Look if I have been accusing members of crimes with no compelling evidence at all then bring them here for analysis. Even better if you can bring evidence of me accusing members of crimes that have been conclusively debunked. You will not bring them will you? Because they do not exist.

You are making things up.

Also disregarding trolling and just going to off topic irrelevant you tried that with CH and could not even demonstrate one of his deleted posts here was off topic or irrelvant when you attempted to you simply ran off.

You can be banned for off topic irrelevant too but this also needs to be investigated thoroughly.

@lfcbitcoin how are you still able to even show your face here. Even suchmoon doesn't trust you. Well I'm sure hell say that he has forgiven you now and you are trustworthy again. But that's not how trust works. If suchmoon believes you did try to misrepresent your private conversations to such a degree they were moved to exclude you I don't think that is repairable really.  Trust you can't just choose to give out because it suits you.

You are a conclusively proven liar and a coward. If you want evidence for my statements then read here.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5136759.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5136759.msg54986956#msg54986956

Page 6 of the link contained within that post.

You think you should have any privileges here? You should be allowed self moderated threads when others are not?

Please don't make me laugh.

You are a conclusively proven liar found to be abusing the trust system and a coward taking orders from a proven scammer. You should be banned. Not spamming away for dust.


+++++++++++++ back to not talking to lfcbitcoin the conclusively proven liar and coward ++++++++++++++


Any serious allegation or accusation I have made against a member , the design of the merit and trust systems I stand 100% with that and will do so until they are conclusively debunked or even a strong case that stands against them. People have had a long time to debunk the points ch and Toaa made. No debunking exists.

Off topic and irrelevant and lacking corroborating evidence

The sky is blue and you are morons.

Is entirely separate from trolling. Where you are promugating proven false information  as true.

Both are serious but 1 is crystal clear. The trolling. There is no need for opinion.

Off topic and irrelevant is far more complex. ( obviously not that example of sky blue you are morons)  but there needs to be a balance between furnishing the reader with the full story and picture so they are given the optimal chance of gaining the optimal or most accurate opinion and overload of irrelevant data.

Actually theymos has said if it is loosely related you have to make sure it ties in and is closely related at points also.

I think only CH and Toaa attempted to define a guide to permitted flow and nobody was interested in creating a definitive guide to permitted flow because the truth is they want to change it when it suits them.

There could be stringent guides and examples for permitted flow. I Dont have issue with that if everyone has to follow it.

With this remove self mod for " hyper trolls "

Meta has no self mod and I like it best that way
If the person is off topic and irrelevant then a mod can remove it 
If the person is not off topic and irrelevant the why deprive the reader of that information. 

The reader should be given the full pictures much as possible.
Hiding info that is on topic and relevant demonstrates fear of the truth or perhaps wanting the reader to have a distorted opinion based on an overly zoomed in and limited view.

Finding the definitive  truth is the most important thing. Failing that possibility  then gaining an optimal opinion is the next best thing.
Just being told what the popular view is and given no opportunity to explore all possible data for yourself is totally unacceptable.










178  Economy / Reputation / Re: DT members are allowed to use lies as reason to give red tags? on: September 21, 2020, 05:45:49 PM
I think the reference for the said negative feedback is clear. People are opposing the flag created by smartcontracts100 while you commented that "everyone opposing" the flag given to lauda is part of Lauda's Gang meaning you are supporting the flag. You may now click the "support" button in the flag itself but your negative opinion about them opposing it shows that you are agreeing to the flag created by smartcontracts100. This isn't a lie but the DT member just based it on your own reasoning.

No, that is based on your reasoning.

How can you claim to know my reasoning.

The flags opened and for what reason specifically against them I didnt even read entirely. So it is impossible that I am supporting the flags and if I wanted to support the flags I would have clicked support.

I am simply stating that if anyone is looking for a full list of whom I consider to be part of the lauda gang to see if the flagging reasoning may apply to them to then check out that flag and all those that appear to be resisting a flag that is based upon iron clad evidence of deception and lying for financial gain aka scamming.

I would support a flag against those people on those grounds because opposing a legitimate warning based on undeniable evidence of scamming is worthy of a flag. I just have not bothered to create flags based on that evidence and reasoning because I assume it would be impossible to garner support if nobody will support a direct warning against a proven scammer.

That is clearly my reasoning.  

He has no evidence to support his claim I am supporting those specific flags I have not examined the evidence and I may support them after i have reviewed the evidence.   I will when i get time.

A red tag from that scammer facilitator and scumbag implicated in an extortion scheme owlcatz is of no import to me. However the precedent for using lies as a basis for a flag is to be examined.

I have not supported those flags since I have not investigated what specific gripes those flags are based on.

179  Other / Meta / Re: Revoke self-moderating privileges from korner and other hypertrolls on: September 21, 2020, 05:11:59 PM
1. You can't just say something isn't true and therefore it become provably untrue. That is ridiculous.

I know for a fact that I'm not Lauda's alt. So I can surely make that statement. Whether anyone wants to believe me or your made-up "proof" - it's up to them. It is well known that it's impossible to disprove sockpuppeting conclusively even with KYC. So let's take your "proof" apart:

Please read the post carefully.  I have also posted evidence I consider to be corroborating previously why it is plausible you're an alt of lauda. Also you are yet to explain your strange action of being first to oppose a flag where there is iron clad evidence of deception and lying for financial gain. Aka scamming.

I don't know which flag you're talking about. I have opposed many frivolous flags.

First to backstab theymos for daring to ask a proven scammer and trust abuser like lauda removed from DT.

If this is about that PM - I thought and still think it was ill-conceived regardless of who the target was. There's a lot of scum (to borrow your word) in DT1 and theymos is not taking any action against e.g. peloso, which is quite puzzling considering the attitude towards Lauda. But all other things being equal I'd rather have no action (and leaving it up to the community to decide) rather than mass PMs trying to tilt the scales. Keep in mind that anyone else sending such unsolicited PM would risk a ban if users report it.

Always first to intervene when lauda is in any real danger.

Considering that I'm excluding Lauda and generally disagree with quite a few Lauda's actions I don't think "always" is accurate.

A similar very " caustic " posting style.

Guilty as charged.

Others have mentioned that they think you speak Croatian.

I don't.

Knowingly presenting provably false information as true. Not as you are doing here yourself saying you believe someone is an alt of someone and presenting what you consider corroborating evidence. This is done by most of DT1. They are all trolls by your standards which do not match the forums definition anyway.

It's not the alt accusation that makes you a troll. It's the disruptive inflammatory walls of text you post all over the forum, whether it's about Lauda, or DT, or merits, or moderators deleting your posts, or any other "issues" that you make up as you go.

2. No conclusive proof.  Treated like cryptohunter? Goes back to again never having been able to demonstrate he knowingly presented conclusively false information as true or ever committed financially motivated wrong doing?   So no trolling there or scamming.
So there again by deliberately and knowingly you are promugating false information as true by claiming he was guilty of trolling as per boards definition.  

I never accused you of scamming so that's a straw man right there.

3. Your posts clearly say cryptohunter do not feed the troll. Do not..
You are attempting to prevent others entering legitmate discussion. That Is wrong.

It's a warning. What users do with it - it's up to them. What you think about it - I don't care. It doesn't even say "troll" BTW.

4. Request yourself that you are blacklisted from DT entirely to demonstrate you don't wish to be on DT1.

I see no reason to do that but feel free to convince me that the forum would be better of without me in DT1 and I'll consider it.

5. If there is no self moderated in rep for anyone that would be fair.
People should have access to all of the on topic relevant information.

I don't think we should take away the self-mod privilege from all users just because a few hypertrolls abuse it.

I believe you are only pretending not to understand the concept.

Provably false information as true.

The.. I know I'm not lauda defense is just silly anyone could say that. Just as I could say I know I'm not cryptohunter.
Since as you say proof of sockpuppeting or not is never going to be 100% conclusive we can move on from that.

When you say : take my proof apart even considering the scare quotes is attempting to insinuate that I was attempting to or even considering it myself as proof. We both know that is untrue.

Let me make it clear. If I say that I suspect you are lauda and present corroborating evidence such as

1. Similar caustic posting style.
2. First to oppose the flag on lauda even though it contains iron clad evidence of deception and lying for financial gain
3. First to back stab theymos for requesting a scammer and trust abuser like lauda is removed from DT
4. Had lauda on your trust list for along time
5. I've seen others mention they thought you spoke Croatian
6. Seemingly close with others lauda are close with.

This is NOT trolling. It is not even near to trolling. You can't expect that to be a bannable offense.

I said when lauda was in real trouble not when he's already on the way out of DT and you see the writing on the all.

Other idiots on DT cast out allegations of socks on zero evidence and leave red tags on the bases of such ludicrous claims. I mean if you have no corroborating evidence at all that stands up to scrutiny then that is weak sauce. You must get them all banned for trolling surely?


If I said the merit and therefore the DT system is full of holes and provided evidence and argument that nobody can debunk then of course it is probable that I'm correct or certainly possible. Therefore how could that be trolling. ?

Being disruptive is a positive of the current consensus is favouring or based upon false or corrupt interpretation of the available evidence. For example if you are all lauding the achievements and positive contribution of a certain member and unaware or conveniently ignoring the fact there is proof of scamming and trust abuse. Then bringing that evidence to light so that the reader may have access to the full story to evaluate is positive. How could anyone consider this trolling.

It is clear that you and many here wish tell deliberate lies and obfuscate the truth or plausibly true statements by branding it hyper trolling
Or trolling. When in all of those cases you can not even present a plausible counter argument to cast doubt on those statements because you know that the evidence is either conclusive or too strong to rebut.

I will demand specific examples of conclusively debunked  being presented as true before trolling can be established.

Inflammatory and disruptive is positive in a corrupt or deliberately misleading environment for those wishing to locate the truth.

As I have said claiming someone is trolling when you have not conclusively debunked their claims is actually trolling.
You are essentially saying you have proof they are deliberately lying, when really you are lying because you have no proof of that at all.

No, you are asking for a double standard that is based upon your incorrect or deliberately incorrect definition of what trolling is per the board rules.

You can't say every time someone says something that they can not conclusively  prove they must be banned for trolling.
However you can say that some who deliberately and intentionally promulgates conclusively debunked information  as true should be warned with clear explanation then banned if they continue attempting to deceive people.

It's a good step that you point out that your silly little image does not contain the word trolling.
Since you would find it impossible to provide any specific example on any of those threads that satisfy the boards definition of trolling.

Still you are clearly attempting to tell others to stop the discussion. This specific tactic employed by you and that other idiot oeioei to crush free and open debate here.

You have never demonstrated one specific example of trolling. Imagine attempting to demonstrate  hyper trolling.  It is ridiculous.


180  Other / Meta / Re: Revoke self-moderating privileges from korner and other hypertrolls on: September 21, 2020, 03:33:13 PM
Why don't you just ignore their threads.

When I saw a self-modded thread from those I people, If I have something to say, I create a duplicate thread and post there. Since I know either most or all of my posts will get deleted, there is no point in posting in their threads.

Who gets to decide who is trolling anyway... Ignore them, problem solved.

I agree with ignore their threads if you don't like them or feel they will treat you unfairly.



Nobody decides if someone is trolling as per the board rules and the explanation of a global mod of 6 years.

You prove the information they are presenting is provably false and if they repeat it as true you can report them for trolling. Simple. Remember real trolling as per the board rules is a bannable offense. So you can't just claim people are trolling without having iron clad proof. Even scammers are not banned even if you provide incontrovertible proof.

I am personally in favor of classifying all unproven accusations relating to behavior on this forum as trolling. If you claim someone has conducted certain activity here you must be able to prove that.
If you say you suspect even then you should be forced to provide strong corroborating evidence.

This goes for ALL members no more double standards.
This thread is calling for double standards.

Everyone here has the same opportunity which is to have their evidence, arguments and points analysed publically.
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