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161  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: March 29, 2024, 09:42:12 PM
Yes, fortunately, Roma is currently in pretty good condition under their new coach. Maybe they were worried because Roma's performance had really declined over time. But this time, it looks like they will be quite different. Considering that, de Rossi seems quite suited to Roma. So, just see how they perform, don't expect much from that. but at least, their performance will not be embarrassing. Even though the chance is quite slim, Roma must try as optimally as possible against Milan, which incidentally is a club from the same league. This is going to be very exciting again.

I don't know if facing a team from the same league is good or not since the result might be totally different than what we could expect in their domestic league.
In Serie A, Milan is playing better while Roma results improved a lot than what it used to be under Mourinho.
Until we see how good Roma could perform against Milan in the first leg, I find AC Milan favorite in their home. I think Roma should try to keep a draw so they could have a bigger chance when hosting their opponent.

Technically, AC Milan are better than Roma, but since Daniele de Rossi arrived on the Roma bench, results and performances have improved dramatically. We will see how both teams perform in the first leg, as they will both want to go as far as possible in the competition, not forgetting that Roma reached the final of the Europa League last year. Clashing two teams from the same country has the advantage that at least one team can go ahead in the competition, but the other is compulsorily eliminated and for the UEFA ranking it could weigh heavily.
162  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: L'halving è alle porte on: March 29, 2024, 09:25:19 PM
Piuttosto che fare una roba del genere vado allin su shiba inu, anzi no su bonk, anzi prendo i 30k e li metto tutti su babybonk.

chiaro ma non tutti hanno il fegato di ferro per fare certe scelte. 30k son soldini per alcuni, per altri potrebbe significare addirittura ricchezza, per altri invece sono noccioline. certe scelte li puoi fare dipende da quale punto di vista vedi le cose

Relativamente a quello che sono io parlavo della scelta di lasciarli in coriandoli per quattro spiccioli.

Ovviamente tornando in topic Nmilamila volte meglio comprare Bitcoin. Perché tenere 30k liquidi con la sola idea di prendere quattro spiccioli di interessi in valite carta igienica 🤷‍♂️

Era per estremizzare ma almeno almeno Bitcoin tutta la vita

Ovvio che era una estremizzazione, ma in realtà c'è veramente chi fa queste scelte che secondo il mio punto di vista sono altamente scellerate. Pura speculazione, ce però a chi finisce bene ma ce anche a chi va male.

Purtroppo avere EURO o USD attualmente non è una scelta ma praticamente un obbligo, senza il 99% della popolazione non saprebbe nemmeno come comprarsi il pane.
Da un punto di vista si investimenti e ovvio che detenere btc sia alla lunga migliore di detenere liquidità su un conto deposito, ma chi vuole vivere sereno sceglierà sempre e comunque la seconda opzione, pochi ma buoni, con btc a volte si rischia l'infarto se non sai come affrontare i giorni di grande volatilità
163  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: La prossima ondata on: March 29, 2024, 09:14:23 PM
Preso nel 2022 in ICO a $0,055 Grin

Ma io dico, dove le trovate tutte ste shitcoinerie cacasoldi?
Dove prendete informazioni sui progetti? O vi buttate a occhi chiusi e come finisce si racconta? Cheesy
Non è critica, ma vorrei capire a come attingete a certe informazioni. Mai avuto questa fortuna io per questo chiedo
164  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: March 29, 2024, 09:00:14 PM
This week there will be important matches in Serie A, matches that are difficult to predict. These are my picks,



Napoli - Atalanta draw
Lazio - Juventus draw
Fiorentina - Milan 2
Inter - Empoli 1

Napoli - Atalanta and Lazio - Juventus are the most important and difficult matches to predict in my opinion, at stake there are important points that can determine who will play in the European competitions next year and who won't, Juventus must defend the third place in the standings and try to put pressure on Milan, but Lazio play at home and cannot make any more missteps
165  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ? Lega Serie A ?? (Italian League) Prediction Thread 2023/2024? on: March 29, 2024, 08:42:29 PM
In my opinion, however, if there is a culprit, it is Massimiliano Allegri. The club set him up with a team to win the championship, he has no commitments in European competitions, and he is currently in third place in Serie A. Many victories were achieved in the last minutes without ever dominating a match and for me this is a failure. He was supposed to dominate the championship instead he finds himself fighting not to lose even the fourth place. I wish you that the next coach will be a coach who brings you to fight to win the Scudetto
In fact, the season went very badly from this point of view, there was contributory blame but in my opinion it wasnt entirely his fault.

Not because I want to defend him at all costs, but something is not working in the team and if the mechanism has a broken piece nothing will work. My opinion.

 Obviously I don't think the fault lies entirely with coach Allegri, certainly in the dressing room there is general discontent and the players don't obey the orders of the coach. Often the will of the players can play tricks on coaches, they can deliberately but tacitly decide whether a coach should remain at the helm of the team or be relieved, and to do this they need only start a series of bad performances. These are obviously absolutely personal opinions
166  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: L'halving è alle porte on: March 28, 2024, 09:12:44 PM
Piuttosto che fare una roba del genere vado allin su shiba inu, anzi no su bonk, anzi prendo i 30k e li metto tutti su babybonk.

chiaro ma non tutti hanno il fegato di ferro per fare certe scelte. 30k son soldini per alcuni, per altri potrebbe significare addirittura ricchezza, per altri invece sono noccioline. certe scelte li puoi fare dipende da quale punto di vista vedi le cose
167  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: L'halving è alle porte on: March 28, 2024, 01:36:19 PM
Come per ogni cosa ci sono i pro e i contro, tutto è nato da un 5% di interessi che da una determinata banca ed è uscita una bella discussione, peccato soltanto che nel thread sbagliato ma fa niente.
Come dice babo i soldi fermi, parcheggiati, messi sotto le mattonelle ecc ecc sono soldi inutili e ne sono più che convinto, tanto che all'inizio della discussione dissi a Ale88 che il 5% anche se potesse sembrare poco e comunque un guadagno che portano, per fermi e fermi meglio il 5%
La mia titubanza rimane sul fondo assicurativo, che conoscendo l'Italia funzionerà alla perfezione.
Perdi 100k nel 2024 li rivedranno i tuoi pronipoti se saranno fortunati.

Si alla fine per quanto poco ad un 5% non si sputa mai sopra. In banca pochi kappa e il resto che giri e rigiri. Chiunque qua dentro alla fine avrà un conto deposito o una sciochezzuola da 4-5-6%. Io personalmente ho tra le cose il classico dei classici un etf core msci world, che scacazza un 6-7% all'anno e schifo non mi fa, anzi. Ora superesposto negli states ma siccome è soggetto a ricalibrazioni automatiche ogni trimestre se gli states vanno in fondo al mare arriverà qualcun altro; che sia la russia, la cina, l'australia o la nuova zelanda a me frega molto poco ...la sua media percentuale la scacazza sempre e comunque a prescidere da chi tira le fila ed è sempre liquido.
Sui fondi attivi, assicurativi ecc fare molta molta attenzione perchè hanno costi e clausole assurde. Tipo le overperformance che quando riescono a battere il benchmark di riferimento si divorano il 20/30% dell'overperformance, una ladrata pazzesca. Quindi alla fine se mi garantisci un 4% ma per due anni facciamo l'10% mi vieni a rapinare il 30% sul 6% di overperformance...assurdità delle assurdità, infatti me ne tengo ben lontano.

Che poi parliamoci chiaro, un conto deposito che da il 5% in Italia lo da solo ing direct e tra l'altro ai soli nuovi clienti, in più si parla di interesse lordo, il netto sarà sui 3,5 - 3,7% non di più. Ovvio su 30k parliamo di circa 1k su vincoli di 12 mesi che schifo non fanno se stiamo parlando di somme che abitualmente tieni fermi a fare la muffa. Non parlo di altri tipi di investimenti perchè sono nettamente ignorante in materia, ma se uno vuole stare diciamo più sereno un conto deposito è l'opzione credo meno rischiosa, magari ottenendo un conto deposito non vincolato che alcune banche danno
168  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: L'halving è alle porte on: March 28, 2024, 10:04:49 AM
Come per ogni cosa ci sono i pro e i contro, tutto è nato da un 5% di interessi che da una determinata banca ed è uscita una bella discussione, peccato soltanto che nel thread sbagliato ma fa niente.
Come dice babo i soldi fermi, parcheggiati, messi sotto le mattonelle ecc ecc sono soldi inutili e ne sono più che convinto, tanto che all'inizio della discussione dissi a Ale88 che il 5% anche se potesse sembrare poco e comunque un guadagno che portano, per fermi e fermi meglio il 5%
La mia titubanza rimane sul fondo assicurativo, che conoscendo l'Italia funzionerà alla perfezione.
Perdi 100k nel 2024 li rivedranno i tuoi pronipoti se saranno fortunati.
169  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: [Crpito] Strategie di investimento on: March 28, 2024, 09:53:36 AM
Ormai per giochicchiare con i DEX o usi le chain Polygon Fantom bnb oppure lasciate stare, tra esci entra attiva contratti e altre cacate, quello che ipoteticamente potete guadagnare viene mangiato dalle fee. Prima dell'ultimo halving si poteva giochicchiare sui DEX senza spendere tanto e farsi ottimi gain, ma adesso non credo sia più la stessa cosa, anche perchè non li uso da anni ormai
170  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: [Meta] Andamento sezione italiana on: March 28, 2024, 09:46:52 AM
chi resta, non e' facile dato che in ogni caso ci sono utenti strani che spuntano e spariscono per sempre
indago ulteriormente se trovo il tempo

Fuochino, vi state avvicinando.
Forse non è solo un utente. MA sono più di uno, una ghenga.
Oh, però non ve la prendete con me: avete TUTTI gli strumenti!
Tra l'altro spiego anche abbastanza bene dove prendere i dati per ogni analisi


ma si era giusto per giocare un pochetto
se usi gli strumenti non ci sta gusto Cheesy tanto lo sai a me frega relativamente poco dei merits a me bsta chiaccherare qua con voi
farmi due risate e restare informato, non mi serve altro nello specifico

e poi ale88 ha gia fatto tutto! modalita beast

Ma si era per passare il tempo, quello che non ho Cheesy a cercare indizi.
Si giocava come a "indovina chi?" Come ai vecchi tempi! Altro che social e internet, prima era vita.. è stato come un tuffo nel passato per qualche secondo.
Comunque credo che la ghenga l'ha scovata Ale88 ahah
171  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: March 28, 2024, 09:37:20 AM
The international break out have been over and next week we are watching back Serie A matches, games week 30 will play few days later and there are have some interested match. Lazio vs Juventus could be interested match because both team have inconsistency performance and Lazio with new manager Igor Tudor replaced Maurizio Sarri after sacking from his position.
Juventus's current top fourth position standings still not secure yet and they must take three points against Lazio to make easily for qualifying to UEFA Champion League next season, in other side Lazio won't to finish in this season outside from Europe League or Champion League spot standings after dropping to 9th place. Igor Tudor have difficult challenge bring back Lazio to be top fourth teams with several matches left.

I see bringing Lazio to fourth place as a truly impossible mission, there are too many contenders and many are decidedly better than Lazio in terms of performance. Unfortunately Lazio has this enormous flaw and is a very inconsistent team, they manage to play good games against the big teams perhaps, and then lose against the bottom of the table.
I never bet on Lazio. In the past I didn't even bet on Inter matches, but today Inter is a different team.

Even I don't believe that Lazio will be able to qualify for the next Champions League, as you say, they are a very swinging team and therefore I find it almost unlikely that they will be able to make up the 11 points they have behind Bologna, it might be feasible to qualify for the next conference league or Europa League but they will have to sweat a lot
Lazio is currently in 9th position and has an 8 point difference in being in the UEL zone and an 11 point difference in being in the UCL zone, that much difference with 9 matches remaining is quite difficult for Lazio to catch, he also has to get past the teams in above, namely, Fiorentina, Napoli, Atalanta and also AS Roma. Yes, even though the teams above them don't appear very consistent, they have more points than Lazio. If Lazio really wants to catch up, Lazio must consistently win every match when the teams above them are inconsistent. Lazio can take over positions one by one until they reach the desired position.

11 points are difficult to recover, so for Lazio it is an almost impossible mission, I say almost because luck could be on its side, Milan Roma Fiorentina and Atalanta could give it a place in the European competitions, if the UEFA ranking confirms Italy in first or second position Serie A would get an extra place for the next Champions League and therefore have an extra chance to get a place in the Europa League or conference league. In addition, Lazio could obtain a place in the Europa League if they manage to win the Coppa Italia.
172  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ? Lega Serie A ?? (Italian League) Prediction Thread 2023/2024? on: March 28, 2024, 09:25:36 AM
It is very likely that Max Allegri will no longer be the coach of Juventus next year, given the poor results so far I don't think the club wants to continue to invest in him, but I wonder who the replacement could be? Osimhen will leave even with the qualification to the next Champions League, last summer he already wanted to leave as he had been repeatedly approached by PSG, rather I have the feeling that Kvaraskhelia could also say goodbye to Napoli.

Next year will be a year of many changes
I cant say that I am happy to see him go, after all he is a good coach and I am verry sorry
I am convinced that the poor results are not his fault but a lot of bad luck, for example last season there was the terrible punishment of not playing the cups. Not Allegri fault.

In my opinion, however, if there is a culprit, it is Massimiliano Allegri. The club set him up with a team to win the championship, he has no commitments in European competitions, and he is currently in third place in Serie A. Many victories were achieved in the last minutes without ever dominating a match and for me this is a failure. He was supposed to dominate the championship instead he finds himself fighting not to lose even the fourth place. I wish you that the next coach will be a coach who brings you to fight to win the Scudetto
173  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: March 27, 2024, 07:45:54 AM
The international break out have been over and next week we are watching back Serie A matches, games week 30 will play few days later and there are have some interested match. Lazio vs Juventus could be interested match because both team have inconsistency performance and Lazio with new manager Igor Tudor replaced Maurizio Sarri after sacking from his position.
Juventus's current top fourth position standings still not secure yet and they must take three points against Lazio to make easily for qualifying to UEFA Champion League next season, in other side Lazio won't to finish in this season outside from Europe League or Champion League spot standings after dropping to 9th place. Igor Tudor have difficult challenge bring back Lazio to be top fourth teams with several matches left.

I see bringing Lazio to fourth place as a truly impossible mission, there are too many contenders and many are decidedly better than Lazio in terms of performance. Unfortunately Lazio has this enormous flaw and is a very inconsistent team, they manage to play good games against the big teams perhaps, and then lose against the bottom of the table.
I never bet on Lazio. In the past I didn't even bet on Inter matches, but today Inter is a different team.

Even I don't believe that Lazio will be able to qualify for the next Champions League, as you say, they are a very swinging team and therefore I find it almost unlikely that they will be able to make up the 11 points they have behind Bologna, it might be feasible to qualify for the next conference league or Europa League but they will have to sweat a lot
174  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Lega Serie A 🇮🇹 (Italian League) Prediction Thread 2023/2024⚽ on: March 27, 2024, 07:31:37 AM
I checked my usual source (BBC Sport) to read some transfer speculations today and the interesting point is there was only one related to a Serie A club.  Sad

I'm linking this to the big debt big Serie A clubs have been in. What do you say? They are of course making transfers in summers but generally we don't see them spending a huge amount of money on a player. Inter have a quite strong level of squad though. However other big clubs would really need some good transfers to get more competitive for the league championship.

We have seen really good coaches coming here but not being able to do much because of money problems for transfers.

With Players like Chiesa and Bremen the defender linked with a move out of Juventus,  they would really do with some incomings as well the coaching role. I don't know if they'd still want to go with Max Allegri as head coach. Two to three signatures would be seen as Sofyan Amrabat has also been reported as one of thr names they're interested in signing.

Napoli will not be qualifying for the Champions League Competition so I know, a big name like Victor Oshime would be leaving ASAP. He would leave for Chelsea in my own opinion and I know Chelsea football club and Napoli are good doing business together just like they did with the case of Koulibaily.

Ac Milan also would be eyeing a replacement for Oliver Giroud sikce he'll be leaving as they have no plans to offer him a new contract, they're exploring the market and would come up with a good replacement for him who can use both feets.

It is very likely that Max Allegri will no longer be the coach of Juventus next year, given the poor results so far I don't think the club wants to continue to invest in him, but I wonder who the replacement could be? Osimhen will leave even with the qualification to the next Champions League, last summer he already wanted to leave as he had been repeatedly approached by PSG, rather I have the feeling that Kvaraskhelia could also say goodbye to Napoli.
175  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: March 27, 2024, 07:25:15 AM
Inter is now certain to have won the Scudetto, all that is missing is the mathematics, but it has the Scudetto sewn on its chest. There are only nine matches to go before the end of the championship and already in April it could be crowned champion of Italy. Now the focus falls on the second, third and fourth places! Where everything is still in the balance. We will certainly witness a very exciting championship finale with Milan Juventus Bologna and Roma competing for second to fourth place.

and yes, congratulations to Inter, even if we still don`t have mathematical certainty, we now have a certainty of the strength of the many points accumulated, really many!
the much talked about and criticized AC Milan are finally finishing the championship in second place, not bad.. but i think Pioli is fired anyway

Let's congratulate them at the end, you never know Cheesy Inter it's true they have a big points lead but anything can still happen, and lately the Nerazzurri's performances have been in contrast to those obtained so far, hopefully the break for the national teams has made the players rest a bit, but Inter have a lot of starters in their respective national teams so I assume they haven't rested at all, some players have also returned injured, so let's hope well.
176  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: [Meta] Andamento sezione italiana on: March 27, 2024, 07:16:32 AM
Non sono tanto sicuro che sia stato fornarino, il link che ha mandato babo rimanda a settembre 2023, fillippone parlava di febbraio 2024, da una piccola ricerca ho modo di credere che il famoso utente non meritato sia stato creep_o
Ha scritto un solo post ma non riceve merit da gennaio quindi per me è lui

ah ok
allora misa che hai vinto tu le birre ops volevo dire i merits messi in palio
ho preso una cantonata, cmq non so se state notando che il report sta iniziando ad allungarsi nuovamente sempre di piu Cheesy
il nostro fillippone ama scrivere e lavorare, niente da fare

Può darsi che ho vinto come può darsi che ho preso palo anche io! Ad oggi non ho visto ne una birra nel mio frigorifero ne merit sul mio conto. Quindi presumo che l'indiziato non è creep_o ma qualcun altro
fillippone dacci un indizio... Ha i baffi? Porta il cappello? È pelato?
Giochiamo a indovina chi Cheesy
177  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ? Lega Serie A ?? (Italian League) Prediction Thread 2023/2024? on: March 27, 2024, 07:11:36 AM
The Italian clubs unfortunately are very indebted, we are now in total decline, before they can make purchases they must necessarily sell a few players to be able to make transfers, they also wait for funds from television rights and placement in the standings. Inter despite having a very competitive team make targeted purchases and especially in free transfers such as Taremi and Zielinsky who are already promised to Inter, in addition, the company Inter is in the process of changing ownership, if by May 20 Zangh does not repay the debt the new owner will be Oaktree


Many teams in all leagues are in debt, the only ones are the super loved ones, which have very strong companies behind them that spend money on famous names, but these companies are more companies than football teams, they spend and do things wisely, see Real Madrid for example, just one name.


well yes, many teams have a lot of debt because they spend the money very haphazardly, very exaggerated salaries for players and astronomical transfer costs
not to mention the salaries of the coaches, all this money cannot come from simple season tickets
the system is sick and destined to get worse as the number of fans dwindles more and more

You are right, the system is sick and everything is going to get worse, especially in Italy, which has now lost its appeal. In this world of entertainment if you do not invest you gain nothing and unfortunately Italy has not invested anything, rather it has fossilised. Once upon a time Serie A was of great interest because it was the championship of the seven sisters (Juventus Milan Inter Rome Lazio Parma and Sampdoria) who contended for the scudetto right to the end, now it is just Juventus Inter Milan dominance and nothing else
178  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Lega Serie A 🇮🇹 (Italian League) Prediction Thread 2023/2024⚽ on: March 26, 2024, 10:33:46 AM
I checked my usual source (BBC Sport) to read some transfer speculations today and the interesting point is there was only one related to a Serie A club.  Sad

I'm linking this to the big debt big Serie A clubs have been in. What do you say? They are of course making transfers in summers but generally we don't see them spending a huge amount of money on a player. Inter have a quite strong level of squad though. However other big clubs would really need some good transfers to get more competitive for the league championship.

We have seen really good coaches coming here but not being able to do much because of money problems for transfers.

The Italian clubs unfortunately are very indebted, we are now in total decline, before they can make purchases they must necessarily sell a few players to be able to make transfers, they also wait for funds from television rights and placement in the standings. Inter despite having a very competitive team make targeted purchases and especially in free transfers such as Taremi and Zielinsky who are already promised to Inter, in addition, the company Inter is in the process of changing ownership, if by May 20 Zangh does not repay the debt the new owner will be Oaktree
179  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: March 26, 2024, 10:18:24 AM
character, Inter are certain to win the title this season and in that sense the league is over. Milan and Juventus are very India though and the situation could still change, we should be careful about that part.

I might think it's not a big one but it's actually pretty big and should be called something to take care of. It's not that Juventus haven't done well lately that they'll give up second place.

Inter is now certain to have won the Scudetto, all that is missing is the mathematics, but it has the Scudetto sewn on its chest. There are only nine matches to go before the end of the championship and already in April it could be crowned champion of Italy. Now the focus falls on the second, third and fourth places! Where everything is still in the balance. We will certainly witness a very exciting championship finale with Milan Juventus Bologna and Roma competing for second to fourth place.

as I told you in the end Inter will win the scudetto, I understand your concern about saying the opposite due to Inter's madness, but now I see them as a mature team that no longer makes headers, usually decided by Moratti who changed coaches so randomly
lol, if you remember Cheesy

Moratti was, or rather is, a true Inter fan, he made some rather questionable choices when he was president of Inter, but he spent crazy amounts of money on his Inter team and with him we had an endless list of champions in the team. For example, Ronaldo the Phenomenon, Roberto Baggio, Robbie Keane, Seedorf, Roberto Carlos, Zanetti, Pagliuca, Peruzzi, Vieri, Etoo, Ibrahimovic, Figo, Djorkaeff and many others whose names I cannot recall.
But Inter were not crazy because their president changed coaches senselessly, but they were crazy because it was in their DNA. Two years ago we lost a Scudetto with an 11 point lead over second-placed Milan so let me say that until the maths gives me reason to rejoice, I have to sweat and suffer
180  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: [Meta] Andamento sezione italiana on: March 26, 2024, 10:09:16 AM
Non sono tanto sicuro che sia stato fornarino, il link che ha mandato babo rimanda a settembre 2023, fillippone parlava di febbraio 2024, da una piccola ricerca ho modo di credere che il famoso utente non meritato sia stato creep_o
Ha scritto un solo post ma non riceve merit da gennaio quindi per me è lui
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