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161  Other / Archival / Re: ✅ [ANN] [banned mixer] | Bitcoin Mixer | Bitcoin Tumbler ✴️✴️ on: May 16, 2020, 12:04:49 PM
My Review -

1. Easy to find the mixing button.
2. Didn't understand the Coinomize code  (What is it?) Maybe add the description here as well.

Code:
Your Coinomize Code: *******
After your first mixing on Coinomize, you will receive a unique code. With this code, we make sure that you never get back your own coins from previous transactions. Just use it for all your next Mixing Orders.

This is the answer Wink If it is not answered, just send me a PM or write to our support.

3. Entered the receiving address without any issue.
4. Service fee easy to set
5. Transfer delay easy to set
6. Order Number saved
7. Letter of Guarantee (Signature verified)
8. The order status worked perfectly.

So far everything looks great & easy to understand. I will update this post when I receive the bitcoins.


Thanks  Smiley

This is first time I am reviewing a tumbler, so pardon me I miss out some core functionality details.
The good thing about this service that there is not much irreverent details that help in getting started with mixing your coins easily. No account required.   
I choose instant delay and got all of my BTC back in 1 hour. This time is fair enough, I can wait for an hour provided my coins are mixed properly.  There is video resource available that help new comers to see how to use this service.
In summary I will give it 9/10. For me it's a smooth experience.


Thanks @longyenthanh for your Feedback Smiley
162  Other / Archival / Re: ✅ [ANN] [banned mixer] | Bitcoin Mixer | Bitcoin Tumbler ✴️✴️ on: May 16, 2020, 10:47:44 AM
Free payment sent to:

@LoyceV
@Murat
@longyenthanh

to test our service.

I can see that 3 members have already been selected, but can I test your service too?

hm okay, let's do it. But not much more^^ Send me your BTC address via PM.


I have done a lot of reviews in the future let me know if you want me to review your site.

It can take up to 24 hours for me to review it sometimes for the mixing site.

Regards

Sorry but you have negative trust.
163  Other / Archival / Re: ✅ [ANN] [banned mixer] | Bitcoin Mixer | Bitcoin Tumbler ✴️✴️ on: May 16, 2020, 10:07:35 AM
I can do an honest review of this service, provided I didn't lose anything in the process. I will review
about working of service, user experience, pros and cons etc. Let me know if I can do that.

Sure, you have been added to the list Smiley
164  Other / Archival / Re: ✅ [ANN] [banned mixer] | Bitcoin Mixer | Bitcoin Tumbler ✴️✴️ on: May 16, 2020, 08:54:54 AM
Free payment sent to:

@LoyceV
@Murat
@longyenthanh
@msarro

to test our service.
165  Other / Archival / Re: ✅ [ANN] [banned mixer] | Bitcoin Mixer | Bitcoin Tumbler ✴️✴️ on: May 16, 2020, 08:19:05 AM
There are many people like me who constantly need tumbler to ensure anonymity. I tried this with minimum deposit of 0.003 btc and it worked as per my requirements. It has cool design (the most modern one I know), fast and friendly support and everything worked.
I have added this in my list of favourite tumbler.

Thank you very much Smiley
166  Other / Archival / Re: ✅ [ANN] [banned mixer] | Bitcoin Mixer | Bitcoin Tumbler ✴️✴️ on: May 15, 2020, 02:47:19 PM
--snip--

Okay great, trusted users can send me a PM.


Just to clarify, the testers will get payed for their tests (in other words: they'll receive a couple of buck to run the tests, so they won't have to risk their own money), or will they receive a code so you'll charge a 0% fee (but they'll still risk their own money), or something else?

Thanks for your Question.
If they are trusted users, we send these users the minimum mixing amount of BTC to their wallets so they can try our service for free and give us a Feedback.
I hope we can trust them Wink
I don't know if it's wise to just send Bitcoin to others, but since we have nothing to hide, and we just appreciate serious feedback, why not.
We do not accept newbie members or users who promote other mixers.
167  Other / Archival / Re: ✅ [ANN] [banned mixer] | Bitcoin Mixer | Bitcoin Tumbler ✴️✴️ on: May 15, 2020, 07:13:41 AM
I needed a tumbler and came across this one. I started with 2 small transactions followed by a bigger one. I am posting the proof here.
By posting this, you've effectively linked your input and output so any mixing you did has to be done again.

If it is allowed here, we give 3 free transactions to higher ranking members to test our service and give feedback afterwards.
I've done similar reviews in the past Smiley


Okay great, trusted users can send me a PM.
168  Other / Archival / Re: ✅ [ANN] [banned mixer] | Bitcoin Mixer | Bitcoin Tumbler ✴️✴️ on: May 14, 2020, 06:07:54 PM

I needed a tumbler and came across this one. I started with 2 small transactions followed by a bigger one. I am posting the proof here.
Its design is simple and it's easy to use. Others can also try and leave more technical feedback.


@deadthings Thank you for your feedback, it helps us a lot Smiley


Update:

- Today we increased the node payout fee for faster confirmations (you don't pay more fees!)


Another Fake Feedback report found: (Links Removed)


Very funny, how a competitor with backlinks tries to destroy our business Wink
Maybe the same one with the first post here on bitcointalk.

Unfortunately this is now becoming a norm. People are greatly abusing the righ of freedom of speech and if this trend continuous, real projects will suffer the most. We have to do something to stop this abusive use by other business competators.


Yes, it seems so, but we do our best to provide a good service.

If it is allowed here, we give 3 free transactions to higher ranking members to test our service and give feedback afterwards.
169  Other / Archival / Re: ✅ [ANN] [banned mixer] | Bitcoin Mixer | Bitcoin Tumbler ✴️✴️ on: May 14, 2020, 12:12:51 PM
Update:

- Today we increased the node payout fee for faster confirmations (you don't pay more fees!)


Another Fake Feedbacks found (Links removed)

Very funny, how a competitor with backlinks tries to destroy our business Wink
Maybe the same one with the first post here on bitcointalk.
170  Other / Archival / Re: ✅ [ANN] [banned mixer] | Bitcoin Mixer | Bitcoin Tumbler ✴️✴️ on: May 13, 2020, 05:42:23 PM
Just saw the coin mixing interface on your site. Have to admit it's very simple and easy to use. Even a
person with little knowledge as I have can use it. Good luck for the future.

Thanks Smiley Smiley
171  Other / Archival / Re: ✅ [ANN] [banned mixer] | Bitcoin Mixer | Bitcoin Tumbler ✴️✴️ on: May 13, 2020, 12:11:53 PM
I suggest you to please lower maximum fee of 5%. There are too many mixers in the market and by
lowering the fee you will attract more and more clients. We the community need good mixers with low
fees not high fees.


You can choose between 1% - 5%. You do not have to use 5% Wink
Visit our website or open a support ticket for such questions.
172  Other / Archival / Re: ✅ [ANN] [banned mixer] | Bitcoin Mixer | Bitcoin Tumbler ✴️✴️ on: May 13, 2020, 06:41:15 AM

Is there a known service that has done this before?
If you mean signing messages to prove they have the big balance they claim to have, then yes.

https://[banned mixer]/faq.html

Quote
Can I trust you with large amounts of BTC?
The fact that we hold over 2000 BTC should stand testimony to the amount of skin we have in the game. Our reserves are publicly proven on BitcoinTalk (1, 2, 3). We do not profit by running away with your coins but by rather running longer in the business. If you feel insecure sending large amount of coins, you have the choice of sending money over a longer period of time in a number of transactions instead. The code within the mixer ensure your coins are never mixed with your own coin and sent back. This ensures security, transparency and anonymity

[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1484009.msg15256505#msg15256505
[2] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1484009.msg15350012#msg15350012
[3] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1484009.msg15428183#msg15428183

All three members are very trusted. I would also consider Loyce one (in case you want to do that), but of course you could see him as a "competitor" for using ChipMixer's signature


Thanks for this infos Smiley let me see what i can do.
173  Other / Archival / Re: ✅ [ANN] [banned mixer] | Bitcoin Mixer | Bitcoin Tumbler ✴️✴️ on: May 12, 2020, 06:31:30 PM
Sure we know it;) Our Letter of Guarantee is also signed. I think i know what you mean now. But even if a mixer publishes a proof, there is no guarantee for an exit scam or whatever.
It proves the mixer isn't broke from the start Wink

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It is better to work on a long time solution that can completely prevent a scam such as showing the private key for the input address maybe, if goes something wrong. Lets see.
So that the customer can take his funds back after mixing? That doesn't make sense.


No, it was just an idea, in case a mixing process should go wrong etc. or the maximum amount was reached, e.g. if many users mix this amount at the same time. But it is the same as our idea before with the wait counter. This answer is not for you only. We will work on a reasonable possibility, maybe we will get more ideas from other users how to build a better and trustworthy system. Most of the time it comes with time, and everyone has to test it to know. So if you are careful, as with any new website, just send small amounts of money or use an other mixer.


Is there a known service that has done this before?
174  Other / Archival / Re: ✅ [ANN] [banned mixer] | Bitcoin Mixer | Bitcoin Tumbler ✴️✴️ on: May 12, 2020, 05:39:01 PM
Can you sign a message proving ownership of a substantial amount of Bitcoin (close to the maximum you allow to mix)? This doesn't prove everything, but at least it proves you can do what you promise. I've suggested this to many mixers, but so far none of them ever did this. Feel free to PM the signature, I won't post the address but I will post a confirmation of a signed message if you do this.
Do you mean a letter of guarantee or a message when the maximum amount has been reached? You are welcome to send me an PM with more infos  Smiley
I mean a signed message. Your PM says "anyone can fake such things", which, unfortunately, is something I've seen a mixer say before. Please don't tell me you don't understand how messages are signed.

Sure we know it;) Our Letter of Guarantee is also signed. I think i know what you mean now. But even if a mixer publishes a proof, there is no guarantee for an exit scam or whatever.
It is better to work on a long time solution that can completely prevent a scam such as showing the private key for the input address maybe, if goes something wrong. Lets see.
175  Other / Archival / Re: ✅ [ANN] [banned mixer] | Bitcoin Mixer | Bitcoin Tumbler ✴️✴️ on: May 12, 2020, 02:23:42 PM
Suggestion: remove the self-moderated status from this thread. You're in the trust-business, censoring posts doesn't inspire confidence.
You can remove this by moving (bottom-left) this topic to a board that doesn't support self-moderation (I recommend Archival), then moving it back to this board.

Can you sign a message proving ownership of a substantial amount of Bitcoin (close to the maximum you allow to mix)? This doesn't prove everything, but at least it proves you can do what you promise. I've suggested this to many mixers, but so far none of them ever did this. Feel free to PM the signature, I won't post the address but I will post a confirmation of a signed message if you do this.

Thank you very much for the suggestion. I only did it because of the fake scam feedback from the other thread. As we know, they do not stop posting spam (the comment we deleted was one of them).

Do you mean a letter of guarantee or a message when the maximum amount has been reached? You are welcome to send me an PM with more infos  Smiley


I checked the site and there we can add up to 5 different addresses. My question is this if I want to
mix 0.067 BTC then you will send these coins in small chunks to all these addresses and accumlative
sum of all these will be .067? Let me know if I got it correct.

Yes this is corrent. We divide the total amount minus fees between these 5 addresses. However, it is only recommended to use all 5 addresses if you send a higher amount, because you also pay per output address.


All tumbler doesn't disclose their team member and locality details thats understood. I just wanna ask
you that do you have a team that is capable enough to handle this project? You have a team of expert
that has diverse experience or its just a one man show.


Unfortunately we cannot answer this question for security reasons! But we work as a team.


176  Other / Archival / Re: ✅ [ANN] [banned mixer] | Bitcoin Mixer | Bitcoin Tumbler ✴️✴️ on: May 12, 2020, 11:24:27 AM
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177  Other / Archival / Re: ✅ [ANN] [banned mixer] | Bitcoin Mixer | Bitcoin Tumbler ✴️✴️ on: May 12, 2020, 06:22:13 AM
"Mixing" is a promising business, although it's the hardest field to get trust.
I had a quick look to the website after reading the full topic here. Op you can consider the following notes:
1- I find it too misleading to have backup domains in work. This would make it easy for thiefs to lunch a phishing copy of the website with another extension. Just one official domain in clearnet would be much more safe so users find it easy to ignore all other extensions. This doesn't deny that it's always effecient to reserve as much domains as you can with all other extensions but not necessarly to activate them or use them as backups.
2- Segwit addresses are not supported. You should consider adding them as number of segwit users growth day by day.
3- What is the "mixing power" slide which move if i change the fee rate?
4- This is the first time i see a mixing service asking for donations.
5- Max to send per order is about 24 btc. Do you have enough reserve to accept simultanious orders with some large amounts? Let's say 4 orders each one with 20 btc, can you proceed them simultaniously?


Thanks for your Comment.

1. Our Default Domain is [banned mixer], our Site is locked to this 3 Domains + Tor, Sure, you can always make a phishing copy of any page, but I don't think that's a problem, it's not hard to remember our domains and anyone can check our REAL website with the letter of guarantee before sending coins to the input address.

2. Yes, we didn't use them for a reason, but I put them on our to-do list, thanks.

3. We use different nodes in the background. By default, a blender mixes its coins from other coins from other customers. We also offer coins that are not from Coinomize, higher fees = cleaner coins.

4. We dont ask, the most mixers have an donation address in the Footer, check it self Wink


5. Many mixers use fake amounts (I won't mention the names now), but you can't build trust on fake amounts, that's our opinion.

We have different amounts on different nodes, I can't tell you more for privacy reasons. We grow with all of you and can accept higher amounts later. To your question if 4 people order, everyone gets his mixed coins yes, maybe with more time delay if there are more than 4 users, but just at the beginning i dont think anyone sends 20 BTC Wink but good questions like from you help us to improve our service. We will add a message for the users in case there are too many mixes in progress, where the user can't deposit and has to wait an X time. But of course we always get a message immediately if this would happen.

178  Other / Archival / Re: ✅ [ANN] [banned mixer] | Bitcoin Mixer | Bitcoin Tumbler ✴️✴️ on: May 11, 2020, 04:08:28 PM
--snip--
We do not use Cloudflare because of the SSL certificate.
We've checked a few other Bitcoin mixer websites right now, and yes, most of them use Cloudflare, check for yourself Wink

You can use our Tor link if you do not wish to do so.

You mean the Image where you can Download the app? Anyone see it if there click on it.
It's just a standard picture so people know that it's an Android app.


In my country, we have a relatively popular saying, which roughly translates to:
"if all your friends jump into a well, would you follow them?", it basically means: do you think the fact everybody else is making a mistake is an acceptable excuses to make the mistake yourself?

You are providing a service: you are breaking the link between 2 addresses (and by extension wallets), so nobody can connect funds in one wallet to funds in another wallet. This is handy when you try to have some privacy, to protect you against thieves, against beggers, against your family, against (corrupt) governements. When you use cloudflare, you are giving all cloudflare employees, potential hackers and several 3 letter agencies the "key" to your service. You're allowing them to link your customer's wallets together, and that's not acceptable. Sure, you have a hidden service, but be realistic: how many newbies will actually know the dangers behind cloudflare AND have the technical knowhow to install the tor proxy and use the tor browser?

It doesn't matter if the primary reason for using cloudflare is DDos protection, you're still using cloudflares SSL certificates... If DDos attacks are problematic for you, there are other sollutions (altough, they are commercial, so they're not free... Remember: "if something is free, you are the product")

Every time i see a mixer using cloudflare (and you are right, many of them are using cloudflare) i point this out, and 90% of the time i get the exact same answer as you're giving me... Sure, most mixers make the mistake of including a MITM in their workflow, that still doesn't make this right...

Great mixers don't use cloudflare's ssl or include thirth party scripts. Mixers that do use cloudflare's SSL are good enough to hide how much BTC you own for common thieves, beggers and nosy relatives... But NOT for cybercriminals, cloudflare employees or (corrupt) governements.

I'm going to stop posting here... I've given you enough advise, advise i've given many mixers... It's up to you if you want to say "i use cloudflare, live with it, case closed" or if you want to investigate why using cloudflare and thirth party scripts is actually a bad thing, and make your mixer safer for your customers.

Good luck with your business!

Thanks for your feedback Smiley If it should be a problem and other people think so too, we will gladly add it to our todo list.

We have seen too much scam in the form of Coin Mixers, is this just another scam?
How can I be sure that its not a scam rather a legitimate project where my BTC will be safe? I will use it only if I came to know that it's real and for that I need genuine proofs.


I think @LeGaulois answered your Question Wink
It is very hard for a new website, we have to fight against fake feedback or scam reports from competitors in the beginning.
I think trust is created over time. You are welcome to test small amounts.


To avail your referral program I have to use your service also? If I mix my BTC from your site only then I can avail your referral program or I can use otherwise also.

No of course not, you only need a Bitcoin address to participate in our partner program. You do not need to place an order on our site.

179  Other / Archival / Re: ✅ [ANN] [banned mixer] | Bitcoin Mixer | Bitcoin Tumbler ✴️✴️ on: May 11, 2020, 02:35:13 PM
How much time it takes to process an order and what if I need some support. Whats the response time of your support?

You determine this time yourself (you can enter any time during the ordering process). One confirmation is required and you must wait for this 1 Blockchain confirmation if you have selected "Instant", for example.

You can open a support ticket on our website and we will answer it within 24 hours.
180  Other / Archival / Re: ✅ [ANN] [banned mixer] | Bitcoin Mixer | Bitcoin Tumbler ✴️✴️ on: May 11, 2020, 02:31:14 PM
I like the design of site, not too much irrelevant information. Do you have some innovative feature or its just an ordinary bitcoin mixer?

Thanks Smiley Just check out our Website. We offer an Android App, Modern Design, up to 5 Bitcoin Addresses and a lot more cool things.



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There is nothing wrong with using cloudflare.
For non privacy-centric sites, you are correct. However, if you use cloudflare's SSL certificates, cloudflare will be able to decrypt every package sent between your user and your server, since they're a MITM. They decrypt every package, and re-encrypt it with your server's certificate.
Cloudflare is located in the US, a country where any agency can gain access to these logs in a matter of hours.

If you switch to an x3 certificate, your users are immediately safe. letsencrypt is providing these certificates for free...

This also protects our site from DDOS attacks and many other attacks and is used by many websites.
True, but you're trading convenience for privacy...

Google Play Store of course does not accept this kind of app;)
True, but in this case you shouldn't indicate you're sending your visitors to the play store... If the link clearly said you were locally hosting the apk, things would have been ok...

I think most sites on the WWW use third party scripts to analyze traffic or for marketing. You also need some Tools for Index it, e.g. on Google.
Sure, but privacy-centered services like mixers shouldn't... I've use matomo in the past, coupled with anonimised server logs they should do the trick.


Basically, your site sends all information about all visitors to a US based company. If they wanted to track one of your users, they could request all data sent between your user and your server from cloudflare, and all other statistics from google statics. They would end up knowing the funding transactions, the withdrawal transactions, the letter of guarantee, the ip's, the browser fingerprint, where your visitor came from, where your visitor went to



We do not use Cloudflare because of the SSL certificate.
We've checked a few other Bitcoin mixer websites right now, and yes, most of them use Cloudflare, check for yourself Wink

You can use our Tor link if you do not wish to do so.

You mean the Image where you can Download the app? Anyone see it if there click on it.
It's just a standard picture so people know that it's an Android app.
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