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161  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bears are in the same team with the bitstamp thefts on: January 05, 2015, 04:22:19 PM
You're so butthurt that you're not even making sense.

+1

this thread is made to distract from how criminal permabulls are who bought coins for under a dollar and keep telling people here to buy 'cheap coins' at these prices when the downfall of bitcoin has actually become apparent and could be single digit prices by the end of the year.

Please switch to the trading post to quarrel with the permabulls. We are discussing the conspiracy theory about the stolen coins. Don't turn every post into a naive quarrel on the coin price.
162  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bears are in the same team with the bitstamp thefts on: January 05, 2015, 04:15:08 PM
Some coherence would be nice.

The 'supposedly' stolen coins at 1L2JsXHPMYuAa9ugvHGLwkdstCPUDemNCf have not been sold, they haven't even moved.

We dunno if they are indeed the stolen coins or not. I believe the thefts are nether stupid nor slow hands. They must have sold it already.

Exactly, so where do you suppose the coins came from? there's been no large movements from Stamp other than this 18K which, for all we know, is still under stamp's control.

Please read the post above starting with "But of course".

I did.

I think you may wish to read it again, with your sarcasm sensors turned up a bit.

I know he is hinting how unbelievable this 4 steps explanation is. But with some stamp employees' (betrayers') help, it is a piece of cake for the thefts to finish step 2-4.

But of course, the betrayer will get his fair share of profits from this whole operation.
163  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bears are in the same team with the bitstamp thefts on: January 05, 2015, 04:10:07 PM
Some coherence would be nice.

The 'supposedly' stolen coins at 1L2JsXHPMYuAa9ugvHGLwkdstCPUDemNCf have not been sold, they haven't even moved.

We dunno if they are indeed the stolen coins or not. I believe the thefts are nether stupid nor slow hands. They must have sold it already.

Exactly, so where do you suppose the coins came from? there's been no large movements from Stamp other than this 18K which, for all we know, is still under stamp's control.

Please read the post above starting with "But of course". Could be one explanation. Or stamp has hidden implicit addresses.
164  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bears are in the same team with the bitstamp thefts on: January 05, 2015, 04:08:20 PM
I think it is the same bunch of people that play the roles of both bears and thefts. They sold the stolen coins to drag the prices down and then used their ambushed short position to further maximize their profits. The 3K coins sold at $300 might be the stolen coins.

I'm bearish and I didn't steal anyone's coins. There was 30k sold at $300. Not 3k. The "theft" is of 18k. So no it really doesn't add up.

Good finding on my typo. Thanks.
165  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bears are in the same team with the bitstamp thefts on: January 05, 2015, 04:06:36 PM
Some coherence would be nice.

The 'supposedly' stolen coins at 1L2JsXHPMYuAa9ugvHGLwkdstCPUDemNCf have not been sold, they haven't even moved.

We dunno if that address indeed contains the stolen coins or not. I believe the thefts are nether stupid nor slow hands. They must have sold it already.
166  Economy / Speculation / Re: January 5th - Just bought 20 coins @ $277 on: January 05, 2015, 04:04:46 PM
If all the whales have turned bearish and caused the crash, then it could be the doomsday.

However, it is the theft that dump and crash the market, then there is nothing to worry about and we will recover soon.
167  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bears are in the same team with the bitstamp thefts on: January 05, 2015, 04:02:26 PM
You're so butthurt that you're not even making sense.

You are so red neck that you don't have the reading power to understand.
168  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 05, 2015, 03:51:22 PM
Bullish news, California legally approves bitcoin (sorry if someone else posted it first):

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/ab-129-california-legally-approves-use-bitcoin/

NYC already approved it last year. We can now use bitcoin to pay parking tickets.
169  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 05, 2015, 03:48:28 PM
price is going somwhere between 100-200usd since solf of 18k btc will began

The thefts already sold the stolen coins. They aren't stupid nor slow hands. They sold when the price is over $300. Actually, the thefts triggered the recent crash.
170  Economy / Speculation / Bears are in the same team with the bitstamp thefts on: January 05, 2015, 03:45:02 PM
I think it is the same bunch of people that play the roles of both bears and thefts. They sold the stolen coins to drag the prices down and then used their ambushed short position to further maximize their profits. The 30K coins sold at $300 might contain the stolen coins (mix 12K extra to cover the trace or the stolen amount is larger than our expectation of 18K).
171  Local / 中文 (Chinese) / Re: 花街资金即将进场,大家就等着大pump的到来吧 on: January 05, 2015, 02:37:58 PM
物极必反,历史规律。惯性只会让你更加平庸。在配上楼主的话,大家自己理解吧。

我站在exchange的角度,只能说做空的人没有离场,没有提现!它们的钱还在,那它们是不是反手做多,你们自己想!第二,有花街的人在和exchange探讨入市时的法律问题。花街的基金在金融海啸后被监管的很严,想投资比特币要绕过一些法律问题。搞定了,就会进场。

我泄一些信息,因为我是从业者,我希望比特币业红火。其实很多大老板早就知道2015年的大趋势了,不过我们行业也很需要小散户赚到钱然后口口相传的那种public awareness,所以也要帮散户。
172  Economy / Speculation / The de-facto central bank will halt the crash on: January 05, 2015, 05:53:38 AM
The communication between exchanges are extremely busy this weekend. Insider info says exchanges are liaisoning to form a union and act as a de-facto central bank going forward. Mechanism is: when naked shorts exceeds certain limits, exchanges will stop withdrawal from them collectively. Now they will slowly experiment this idea and implement silently from now on.

This industry indeed needs some self-regulation, self-esteem and self-discipline.
173  Local / 中文 (Chinese) / Re: 花街资金即将进场,大家就等着大pump的到来吧 on: January 05, 2015, 05:45:10 AM
OK,底喊得早了一点,不过我的团队从280一路低吸到260。总之,我买我的币,你骂你的娘。

你们看淡就看淡呗。我周末跟几个startup的老板通了电话,大家的投资人大多数都在忙着低价抄底。

吓慌的小散是不敢现在进场的,还不是有钱的大户在抄底。
在忙着清仓吧。
呵呵,没有新人入场,一切都是浮云。

大家除了抄底,还在讨论形成一个虚拟央行。即几家大的exchange联手,如央行一般的干预比特币汇率。只要裸做空超过一定数量时就暂停取款业务。你们啊too simple, sometimes naive。

俗人只知道眼前,佛祖能知过去未来。好好提升境界吧。
174  Local / 中文 (Chinese) / Re: 花街资金即将进场,大家就等着大pump的到来吧 on: January 05, 2015, 03:00:15 AM
有过两天去las vegas的投资人吗?到时候可以约个饭局聊聊?PM我。土豪喜欢after party的也可以奉陪的。呵呵。
175  Local / 中文 (Chinese) / Re: 花街资金即将进场,大家就等着大pump的到来吧 on: January 05, 2015, 02:44:21 AM
假如真的天要塌下来,那所有的exchange 就都学mt gox卷钱跑路了,熊熊你们赚了也提不出钱来。

我们从业者没有退场就是对比特币最大的支持。
176  Local / 中文 (Chinese) / Re: 花街资金即将进场,大家就等着大pump的到来吧 on: January 05, 2015, 02:40:51 AM
OK,底喊得早了一点,不过我的团队一路在低吸。总之,我买我的币,你骂你的娘。

你们看淡就看淡呗。我周末跟几个startup的老板通了电话,大家的投资人大多数都在忙着低价抄底。

吓慌的小散是不敢现在进场的,还不是有钱的大户在抄底。
177  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bottom on: January 04, 2015, 06:35:04 AM
Here's the thing, I've been a bear for the duration of 2014, but I don't think too many people are willing to sell below 275.  So looks like 250 is probably the absolute bottom if it does reach there, at least for the 1st quarter of 2015.

Below $275, it would be not profitable to mine the BTC. Below $275, it is better for miners to buy and store BTC.

Not to mention that the short squeeze can be lucrative for the whales. I don't think the whales are that stubborn, because profit is profit no matter it is from the bull side or the bear side.

Miners will mine at whatever price since hardware costs are already sunk costs - the only limiting factor is power but some like me run solar panels on my roof and since its all paid for already upfront, my day to day power cost is basically 0. However I'm not a seller. I hodl my mined coins

You are the so-called strong hands.  Grin Grin Grin The gathering of guys like you will definitely change the market dynamics and squeeze the bears to death.
178  Economy / Speculation / Re: Still too many bulltards on: January 04, 2015, 06:27:54 AM
It is trading, dude. Short, Cover and Long. Why you be a beartard?

Cause it's easier to follow trend than trade against it

Trend can be reversed. Too many bears can still crowd a working short into a non-working one. Whales are hunting for profit but not for bear hypes. If a short squeeze is lucrative, why not start it? You saw the rally from $300 to $450 once, the whale surely has the power to repeat it.

Never be 100% sure about something that is out of your control, because you are a retail not a whale.
179  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bottom on: January 04, 2015, 06:23:36 AM
Here's the thing, I've been a bear for the duration of 2014, but I don't think too many people are willing to sell below 275.  So looks like 250 is probably the absolute bottom if it does reach there, at least for the 1st quarter of 2015.

Below $275, it would be not profitable to mine the BTC. Below $275, it is better for miners to buy and store BTC.

Not to mention that the short squeeze can be lucrative for the whales. I don't think the whales are that stubborn, because profit is profit no matter it is from the bull side or the bear side.
180  Economy / Speculation / Re: Still too many bulltards on: January 04, 2015, 06:19:32 AM
It is trading, dude. Short, Cover and Long. Why you be a beartard?
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