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161  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: The price you will buy and sell btc? on: October 06, 2019, 12:17:30 PM
I think 7k I buy and sell 10k.
same as you, i think like that. at the moment the price of bitcoin reaches the level of $ 7k, and until now I have done enough bitcoin stock. right now I'm just waiting for the price to rise to $ 10k, and that can happen at the end of this year. but, I will sell my bitcoin depending on the conditions. as long as the information I get about bitcoin is good enough, I will hold it back. I also feel that the price of bitcoin will soon rise leaving the level of $ 7k, and return to the level of $ 8k.
162  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: BOUNTY YOBIT PRO DAN KONTRA on: October 06, 2019, 07:56:54 AM

Sangat sulit membuat forum bertahan lama apalagi insentifnya dengan duit. Plus, agak ironis juga kalau mau promosi harus lewat Bitcointalk.


Iya om, saya juga rasa gitu, masa mau ngiklanin forum mereka lewat btt. tapi sepertinya mereka memang serius ingin narik member bitcointalk buat masuk ke forum mereka. saya perhatiin, lumayan rame juga thread-threadnya disana. apalagi mereka juga membuat event seperti tiap post dapat 1000 satosthi, dan kontes untuk memaksimalkan post biar bisa dapat 1 bitcoin dibulan november nanti. bahkan ada pertanyaan mengenai bounty, signature, dll. ini mungkin sama seperti altcointalk.

tapi saya yakin sih mereka gak bakal berhasil ngalahin kepopuleran btt Cheesy

Coba dihitung gan.

Asumsi user yang register di sana 1000. Tiap hari post maksimal 30. Maka total 30.000 post. Sehari perlu bayar 30.000 * 0.00001 = 0.3 BTC. Sepuluh hari 3 BTC. Sebulan 9 BTC. Ane rasa dari fee exchange juga nutup itu, apalagi dengan IEO" yang aneh".

kalau 9 bitcoin perbulan juga saya pikir sangat besar itu om, kalau dihitung sekarang sekitar $71,880, atau sekitar Rp. 1,015,000,000, apalagi kalau harga bitcoin naik.
163  Economy / Speculation / Re: Can BTC still have any rally before 2020? on: October 06, 2019, 06:01:58 AM
We have been having a lot of debate on where the trend might be shifted to in terms of BTC price. The highest price this year almost reaches $14000, while the majority still believe that we might still get back to this price and even surpass that level, some still at the conservative position that BTC will hover between $7000 -$10000 maximum before the end of this year.

Is anybody here believe in any of these scenarios with valid points and if available an illustration that will establish the fact.
the pros and cons will continue to exist in this issue. To date, I support the scenario that the price of bitcoin can reach more than $ 10,000 this year. that is due to some news that supports the development of bitcoin in the coming year. besides that, there will always be FUD that tries to make people panic. even some speculation from them it up to the level of $ 3000. I think that's too far.

For information, daily analysis today says that if the price of bitcoin recovers, it is most likely close to the level of $ 9000, whereas if something bad happens, it is likely that the price of bitcoin will drop to the level of $ 7700. Well, even that is still close to the level of $ 10,000. I am still quite optimistic about this.
164  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: 🔥[ANN][ICO][MYO]🔥 MYCRO JOBS - SIMPLY GETTING THE JOB DONE on: October 06, 2019, 04:10:31 AM
Pada umumnya identitas kita sama, semuanya berdasarkan akte kelahiran kita. Paspor dibuat berdasarkan KTP kita, begitu juga dengan SIM. jika verifikasi kyc harus dikakukan untuk mendapatkan token, saya rasa tidak ada masalah apapun, selama identitas kita tidak salah dipergunakan.
Itu yang masih jadi ke khawatiran bounty hunter karena bisa saja identitas kita digunakan untuk hal yang tidak di inginkan apalagi bayarannya gak setara dengan hasil kerja kampanye selama bermingu-minggu, pertimbangannya ada pada pribadi masing-masing kalau ingin mendapatkan tokennya berarti harus melewati KYC
masalahnya adalah project ini ketahuan fraudnya nanti 3 hari setelah selesai KYC gan  Cheesy , kemungkinan besar, yang masih sempat dapat 3 hari itu bakalan lakuin KYC. saya ihat beberapa orang sudah sadar sebelumnya mengenai kasus ini, tapi mungkin mereka mengesampingkan maslaah ini dan tetap melakukan KYC untuk mendapatkan reward mereka. saat ini pasti nyesal gak nyesal sih yang udah lakuin KYC, selain itu telegramnya juga masih tenang adem hingga saat ini.
165  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Best Time to Sell Altcoins on: October 05, 2019, 04:38:18 PM
looking at the current bear market, it seems that only a few people will sell the altcoins they currently have. it is very difficult to find the right time to sell altcoin at this time, sometimes we think the potential of altcoin that we have is still very large.

like me, who until now still piled up ethereum. I always want to sell it, it's just that I feel that its potential will soon open up in the near future. maybe I will sell it when the price may already be above $ 500. I just hope that ethereum 2.0 technology will make ETH prices go up. but I feel that halving bitcoin will affect altcoin prices to be higher. until now, that's the only strategy I have thought of for altcoin.
166  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Many ICO / altcoin scams? on: October 05, 2019, 03:16:39 PM
Analyzing all projects, it is a long time ago, especially for investors who often invest their funds in various projects, and I strongly agree that investors must visit trusted project sites before investing in a project, because with the analysis of investors will know information about the project.
Analyzing projects before starting to invest is the best way to prevent traffic jams with projects that don't have potential. Without analysis, investors will be very disadvantaged because the project is not going well.
Getting used to always checking the completeness of the project is a way to prevent investment failure.
honestly, quite a lot of people are lazy to do the analysis, even though that is the most important point in investment. some people think that it's difficult. Well, that is indeed quite difficult, requires deep accuracy, and requires time. but that is the best thing that can be done before investing, rather than being too hasty.

however, we must be aware that anything is possible in the world of cryptocurrency. even people who do an analysis of a project still have risks in the project. What if I don't do the analysis? they should prepare for the worst.
167  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Bounty hunting is past it's glory days on: October 05, 2019, 01:17:52 PM
My question is, is it possible to still make a living from bounty or we should just move on from it?
looking for a bounty with profit will be enough to help you make a living, but I don't feel that this can make you survive, because sometimes the bounty is paid after 3 months after the project is finished. It would be great if you supported the right project, but if you were wrong in supporting the project, I think it could be bad for your life.

Therefore, try to find other ways to increase your income, and still working on the bounty project will be very good to add to it.

Life is unfair but I think that its just temporary we might still find some profitable campaigns but only few. Don’t lose hope, maybe if the market is in good shape we might experience another glorious episodes of bounty hunting with considerably good profit.

Until now, I also believe that there will be projects that have the potential to be supported. but projects like that don't come every day. so I also still have high hopes in this matter.
168  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What did you know about Bitcoin before becoming a bitcoiner? on: October 05, 2019, 08:43:29 AM
Before getting to know Bitcoin, I was just someone who was trying to find dollar coffers through the PayperClick site. yeah, that is a pretty good thing for started. I have seen bitcoin several times before, it's just that I thought it was a tool for playing gambling, moreover the picture of dogecoin was also almost the same as bitcoin, so I thought that it was the same unit.

in 2014, I already tried to use PayperClick that were paid using bitcoin. it was quite useful for me, moreover, at that time, the web faucet was also still quite worth. however, making $ 1- $ 10 is something extraordinary for me.

the deeper I learned about bitcoin, and following the current, I was taken to this forum. and finally, I tried to learn about trading, investing and more. so aware, it turns out that bitcoin is a really very broad technology.
169  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Tell me how to invest on: October 04, 2019, 04:18:58 PM
Since you are asking us to tell you how to invest, I will tell you how. Buy Bitcoin. Just bitcoin. BTC. Nothing else.

I think people have started to have the same thoughts about investing in cryptocurrency.  Cheesy

if you ask crypto users publicly, I think 80% of the members will provide the same information, which is to invest 100% in bitcoin.
Until now, so many people thought that the pump would start from Bitcoin before other altcoins, that's why many people recommend it. In addition, this year, crypto price increases are more dominant against bitcoin. it can happen anytime in the future.
170  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why not use Exchange instead of Mixer? on: October 04, 2019, 09:23:44 AM
from what I know, some exchangers are not anonymous. this is because the exchanger requires its users to do KYC. it makes a person's identity no longer a secret. Because of this, the exchanger team might be able to find out what you are doing to your money, and can prevent if something unexpected happens, can even cover the delivery that we do. in contrast to mixers, which are actually used as a pathway to eliminate transaction traces, and difficult to track
171  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: 🔥[ANN][ICO][MYO]🔥 MYCRO JOBS - SIMPLY GETTING THE JOB DONE on: October 04, 2019, 05:57:50 AM
Pada tanggal 12 september 2019, berdasarkan pada postingan https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5189364.msg52624730#msg52624730 yang telah meng-arsip-kan thread bounty. Ternyata tidak ada kesepakatan tentang KYC.
Plus,  HavucHamdi# telah menghapus/meng-edit postingan bounty tsb (utk menghilangkan jejak).
Sebenarnya tingkah BM dan tim sudah sangat kelewatan, sangat banyak perubahan yang di edit pada thread bounty tanpa memberikan keterangan yang jelas serta setiap perubahan yang dilakukan tidak di informasikan sebagai pemberitahuan terbaru, terakhir yang sangat disayangkan tentang KYC yang meminta foto passport, dimana kita tahu hanya sebagian kecil peserta yang memiliki passport dan ini menurut saya bentuk pemangkasan alokasi secara halus karena banyak partisipan yang melewati langkah ini karena tidak memiliki passport

menurut informasi yang saya baca di telegramnya, KYC bisa menggunakan KTP atau SIM gan, tapi itu gak nutupin sis kalau project ini memang benar-benar kelewatan. hal yang paling disayangkan sebenarnya, KYCnya cuman berjalan 3 hari, dan ditelegramnya sudah cukup banyak orang yang terlambat melakukan verifikasi KYCnya, bahkan saya juga mendengar bahwa KYCnya tutup sebelum 3 hari.

saya hanya berharap kalau orang yang sudah melakukan KYC bakalan di terima, karena kalau KYC ditolak, bakalan menjadi maslaah baru, karena sejauh yang saya tahu, KYCnya hanya bisa dilakukan sekali. cukup menyakitkan untuk bounty yang sudah berjalan setahun sih
172  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: 🔥🔥[ANN]Catex.io-Transaction Mining Exchange-105%Trans-Mining Fees Returned🔥🔥 on: October 03, 2019, 02:25:18 PM
Ketika begitu banyak program yang menarik di lakukan oleh tim exchange tapi kenapa sangat sedikit sekali berdampak pada token cat ?
Apa skrng kepercayaan orang berinvestasi di altcoin sudah hilang?


Liat token nya juga dong semisal seperti Catex yang abu-abu gini mana berani paus masuk yang ada resiko tinggi , semua juga tau rekam jejak dev catex gimana cuma orang buta yang mau invest.
Tepat. hingga saat ini harga catex juga masih sangat murah, dan itu membuat saya mengambil kesimpulan bahwa tidak banyak orang yang membutuhkan koin tersebut. bukan orang yang tidak percaya pada cryptocurrency lagi, melainkan projectnya tidak menarik untuk didukung. lihat perkembangan harga BNB, dari harga $0.1 menjadi harga yang sangat tinggi hingga saat ini. itu karena binance berhasil membuat perusahaan mereka berkembang.  Catex belum memiliki perkembangan dan kemajuan dalam mengembangkan exchangernya. saya pikir, tim catex perlu membuat event-event agar orang tertarik menggunakan exchanger dan token catex hingga harganya bisa di pump. Ingat, bahwa terkadang harga menunjukkan kualitas
173  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Closings bountyhive? on: October 03, 2019, 01:02:07 PM
Seems the crowdfunding site has closed business. Its Twitter page is probably deactivated and website is no longer online. Have you inquired that from them on their telegram group?  The group is not available too? .
 I guess they have closed business. No project will be listed anymore.
the telegram is still there, it's just that they changed their function not to chat, but only to update the information. however, until now there has been no updated information about the project list, or anything else. until now, I've only been in the local telegram group, and even the people there are confused.

I think the admin of bountyhive needs to make an announcement regarding this. however, I'm still waiting for the good news from bountyhive. Too bad if a business like that is closed.
174  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: 10% ROI every day offer? on: October 03, 2019, 06:57:51 AM
things like this always happen in telegrams. there will always be people who try to offer investments with unreasonable profits. in fact, almost every day I get messages from people like that. however, I have tips on this

  • Don't trust strangers who give you messages and offer your for investing (this also happens in real life)
  • Be careful in investing, make sure all those involved in it are real.
  • Do not believe too quickly and be tempted by a large bonus.
  • Check web reputation, and more on this forum (this forum provides reliable information on developing projects).
  • If you really feel that it is a fraud, immediately report, return to your activities, and move on.

don't think that every big bonus is a profitable business. there is always a risk behind it.
175  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin bull push to 600k ? on: October 03, 2019, 02:42:09 AM
I am not so sure that Libra will bring big changes to the price of bitcoin. however, I quite believe that the price of bitcoin will go up high in 2020. Besides the development of libra, halving, and others, I also read some articles that are quite interesting today.

As said in the article I read, McAfee also predicts the high prices that can happen to bitcoin in the coming year. in fact, he predicts that prices will be in the range of $ 500,000 to $ 1 million. he even held fast to this. the reason is because of the scarcity of bitcoin which will trigger high prices. in addition, halving also makes mining more difficult. that makes sense. here' is the link to Artikel
176  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: how to announce successfully? on: October 02, 2019, 03:36:42 PM
as they say, for a project/ new technology, ranking is not so important. the consideration of investors or members of this forum about the new projects is the team, concepts, partnership, and honesty. however, when you have a good crypto project/technology to develop or share on, you can promote it at this time the Announcement thread

but if you have a bounty for the technology support you develop, it will have a different storyline. it requires trusted people in this forum to handle the bounty that you will make to be more trusted and controlled.
177  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: 🔥[ANN][ICO][MYO]🔥 MYCRO JOBS - SIMPLY GETTING THE JOB DONE on: October 02, 2019, 08:45:44 AM
Kalo untuk menghindari kegagalan itu terjadi discan menurut saya lebih baik, apalagi waktu yang diberikan oleh dev untuk kyc sangat sebentar
Kalau untuk foto identitas atau paspor memang bisa di scan gan, tapi untuk foto diri yang sambil memegang identitas serta tanggal yang tertulis di lembar kertas, kayaknya lebih cocok di foto gan, ketimbang habis foto kita scan lagi.
tepat gan. lebih baik nyari aman aja, langsung scan KTP/SIM/pasportnya berhubung KYCnya hanya untuk skali submit doang.

owh iya, sekedar informasi, jika KYCnya dimulai dari tanggal 30 september 2019, dan selesai dalam waktu 3 hari, artinya hari ini hari terakhir (kalau dihitung dari 30 septermber) jadi yang belum KYC, gas lah. jangan sampai kerja setahun tapi gak di bayar hehe.

untuk spreadsheet, katanya itu belum final karena masih banyak di temukan alt akun, dan juga banyak penipu yang pake nama akun orang. Final spreadsheetnya bakalan di share stelah pengumpulan KYC berakhir. jadi bisa di tunggu mulai dari besok.

semoga bermanfaat.
178  Economy / Speculation / Re: I wan't to believe on: October 02, 2019, 05:44:46 AM
After the bear market that almost lost my btc earnings last year I did not believe anymore in such predictions no basis at all no one really knows what will be the price in those dates mentioned we can see this month if that prediction will become real, if this happens I will liquidate all my properties  in exchange to bitcoin.   Grin
Predictions without basis are hard enough to believe, but speculation of a high bitcoin price can indeed occur at the end of this year. I say that because there will be halving in 2020 and a lot of information that supports the growth of cryptocurrency.

Looking at predictions and price analysis today, the price of bitcoin can recover in the near future to the price of $ 9k, but if it continues to decline, it will reach the range of $ 7k. at the moment I am not very sure that the price of bitcoin can cure the price of $ 11k this month, but I believe that the price can approach the price of $ 10k, or be in that range.
179  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Prediction 2020 - 2021 on: October 02, 2019, 01:59:27 AM

2012 - Bitcoin halving
2013 - go to the moon
2014 - hacking problem from MTGOX and others
2015 - Bitcoin prices wake up from the downturn
2016 - Bitcoin halving
2017 - go to the moon
2018 - the bitcoin problem is usually about HACK
2019 - Bitcoin prices wake up from the downturn
2020 - Bitcoin halving
2021 - Huh You know it

after bitcoin halving, the year after that will be "go to the moon". this could be repeated, specifically, the price of bitcoin can be pumped back in that year in 2021. But, I think that the price of bitcoin will start to rise in 2020.

in addition, according to the chart that I saw, price increases always occur if there is no "banned crypto" information on a country, social media, and other large companies. we have gone through all that. I am pretty sure that in the years after this, the price of bitcoin will continue to rise.
180  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [ANN] Beaxy - The All-in-One Cryptocurrency Exchange on: October 01, 2019, 03:49:34 PM
Ane pikir itu langkah yang tepat yang diambil oleh tim Beaxy, yaa itu semua untuk menjaga rate BXY tetap bagus di market, alhasil sampai sekarang BXY di Exchange masih bagus, gak terjadi dump. Yaa walaupun kelamaan sih nunggu pembagian untuk tahap kedua.
distribusi memakan waktu berbulan2 untuk menjaga kestabilan harga token sekarang merupakan hal biasa gan, karena bukan proyek ini saja yang melakukan hal semacam ini tapi banyak juga
sayang sekali harga beaxy saat ini dump, padahal beberapa hari sejak bounty batch pertama di bagikan, harganya masih cukup stabil.
menurut chat yang beredar digrup telegramnya, ada yang menjual banyak token BXY dalam waktu 1 transaksi, dan membuat dump yang cukup berefek hingga saat ini.
salah satu adminnya juga mengatakan bahwa hal ini adalah hal yang normal, karena dalam trading ada kebutuhan dan permintaan. semoga harganya bisa kembali normal atau lebih tinggi.
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