Only pools must be in delegates. We don't need other delegates. We need a high-end professionals and best programmers, which will be paid from money collected in the ICO, and will implement the roadmap in full. Max must remove votes from delegates
Have we been eating paint-chips? Pools are the most unstable of the nodes and cause the most dumping. The bulk of them totally SUCK! If you took 3 seconds to look at the statistics, only 1 pool even watches his nodes... robinhood. If we did what you ask and implement this tinfoil theory, the network would become destabilized and fork all over the place. It's already bad enough the entire pool of 101 active delegates loses lisk because of unwatched pool nodes without failovers or backups. Most of the current 101 non-pool delegates have worked hard over the past 10 months helping to stabilize lisk and provide the community with a plethera of handy tools. Lose them, and lisk is in trouble. There are currently only about 90 people who have really even proven they can even manage a lisk node properly. AND WE ARE STILL SEARCHING FOR MORE If you have any linux or JS skills and a few lisks, you should try.  Pools are the most unstable of the nodes and cause the most dumping. The bulk of them totally SUCK! - it is a blatant lie. For 40 BTC is possible to run 1000!!! nodes on 1000 dedicated servers and Max could run nodes without help of fucking delegates. The vast majority of people, want pools. Only sucking delegates are afraid of pools because those will take their place. |
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Who likes pool can vote pools. Who does not like pools can vote other delegates. It is a free choose
Just one thing- Max and Oliver must cancel their votes for any delegate. |
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Я со своим слабым английским уже запарился этим пендосам объяснять, что делегаты идут лесом, нужны только пулы. Они реально настолько тупые, что сами этого не понимают? Да там просто все кто против пулов это сами делегаты, которые рвут задницу за кормушку )) |
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And I just realized that Vega is also a delegate ... After that I am not interested in your opinion any more. Your task to remain with a feeding trough... Go Vega go...
If you just realised this than I'm afraid that I'm correct in that you are unable to follow and understand what I've been writing about, as me being a delegate was more than clear from several comments from my posts. However I agree that this is pointless, as no reason to debate with someone who can't follow your argument. You are only a worthless delegate. If you are able to make something important for Lisk, let Max will pay you from the money raised on ICO |
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You're great attainment for LISK community, but you dont right with your opinion about delegates.
It's cute how Virtum sent you because you speak better english, but I'm afraid your skill is still not enough for you to properly understand what I written (from your post it's clear that you don't) let alone argue with it. So please send someone better, sooner or later we'll get there I'm sure. And I just realized that Vega is also a delegate ... After that I am not interested in your opinion any more. Your task to remain with a feeding trough... Go Vega go... |
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Забавно что многие в английской ветке защищают нынешнее положение вещей, и пишут мол так и должно быть. После такого понимаешь что люди на самом деле заслуживают такого обращения к ним.
Пишут мол без делегатов которые забирают все себе, будет обычный ПоС и более богатые будут получать больше. Лол, ну и идиоты конечно.
Вот и я о том же. Собрать с наивных хомяков около 14000 битков просто за форк монеты Crypti и нихрена толком не сделать за эту кучу бабла, так ещё завели форджинг и деребанят его между своими делегатами. Делегаты эти тупоголовые в основной массе орут что они поднимали ноды и поддерживали тестовую сеть, а теперь и основную сеть... За 40 битков можно поднять 1000 (тысячу!!!) нод на год, это мог сделать Макс, нахера эти балбесы паразиты делегаты  |
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Only pools must be in delegates. Imagine a Lisk future with 100% pool delegates. Soon a Lisk pool delegate has a problem with his node and his pool node goes down (which happens A LOT). Why should he feel any sense of urgency to fix that problem? There's 100 other pool forgers to keep the Lisk blockchain going, and he's not losing any Lisk out of his pocket - somebody else is. So there's no rush to fix that pool node problem. Then another Lisk node goes down. Why should THAT guy feel any urgency to fix HIS problem? There's 99 other....then 98 other...then 97 other...eventually 50 other....maybe 10 other...hey, who's keeping the Lisk blockchain going? And why? And how are they paying for their computers? You want 101 people to do their damn best to give Lisk forging nodes 100% uptime? Don't vote pool nodes, vote for people who are VERY STONGLY MOTIVATED to fret over Lisk nodes 24/7/365 for their own benefit. You get what you pay for. Why you are such stupid? If pool node goes down, he in urgent will recover it because he gets a percentage of the forging and its profit depends on it. |
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Я со своим слабым английским уже запарился этим пендосам объяснять, что делегаты идут лесом, нужны только пулы. Лиску нужны лучшие программисты и профессионалы в данной области, которые будут оплачены с собранных денег, коих предостаточно. Кто силен в английском помогайте в английской ветке ставить на место этих зажравшихся делегатов )) Они вцепились мёртвой хваткой в кормушку, так просто их оттуда не выкурить )
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Max must remove votes from delegates
This just shows how little you know or care about the real delegate situation. Without max (and oliver) votes there would be less contributing community members would be forging and it would be fat wallet delegates replacing most of them. Only pools must be in delegates.
You are making a good argument... or you know just ignoring everything we are saying. However, here is the thing. I don't need to convince you. I just need to beat you. While you complain and make weak attempts to push your agenda I spent the last 8 months immersed in the lisk community. I ran nodes, created tools, made connections, talked to the community about various subjects, and the most important for this discussion, I spend an enarmous amount of time strategising and politicking, setting up the stage so I can forge, and I'll continue to do so. You may get your way, I'm not going to lie. Pools may dominate the 101 one day. But do you know what's the funny part is? I would make more money that way, doing nothing just a quick voting session, than I'm doing now, running a delegate, and about dozen other things that come with being part of a large delegate community. So maybe I'm secretly rooting for you, it would be totally great for me. Not so much for lisk, but what can you do... I have bad English and it saves you from me... If you have made something really valuable for Lisk, then let Max will pay you, for your professionally done work. Understand you delegates, you aren't necessary to Lisk. Lisk needs the best programmers and professionals who will be paid for the done work, all. |
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Only pools must be in delegates. We don't need other delegates. We need a high-end professionals and best programmers, which will be paid from money collected in the ICO, and will implement the roadmap in full. Max must remove votes from delegates
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А вообще вы мне не нравитесь, потому что лохотронщики из Инчейна.
Можно объяснить подробнее? Конечно можно, и нужно. Весь этот Говнобанк с Инчейном одни и те же лица, и технология одинаковая на Кефире основанная. Учли прошлые ошибки и не стали хвалиться опытом, а предъявили новые лица и условную Австралию с условной командой "сборная мира". Когда стало понятно, что с Инчейном соснут хуйцов стали готовить Говнобанк, который и запилили одновременно со свёртыванием слонят. Там в теме точно такое же общение шло, точно такое словоблудие, точно такой же черлидер уговаривал, какой хороший слонофон-лохотрон. Интересная версия. А про лица можно конкретнее? Кто является одим и тем же лицом? Есть какие-либо факты, подтверждающие эту версию? Имеется в виду русская тема? Почему основатели проекта здесь больше не отписываются, они ведь русскоязычные? А тебя проплаченного уже не интерессно слушать. И на высказывания Krypt по теме, никто из разработчиков тоже не соизволил ответить и внести ясность... Я вам так скажу, любой проект который хоть как-то соприкаается с Сашей Ивановым (Waves) обходите стороной, это скамер со стажем и все эти проекты СКАМы!!! |
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Thats true but right now the majority dont even share their income. They hold it from themselve under the name i.e. : 50% will be hold for voting weight.
This is just ridiculous in my eyes.
You mean the same way PoW minters don't share their income? Or how PoS forgers don't share their income? The Lisk delegate system is not your faucet. If you think those who are now delegates became that way by accident or luck, you are very wrong. It was and is a lot of hard work, investing a great amount of time and not a small amount of money into the endeavour. Tell these fairy tales to my grandmother... The vast majority of delegates have to go out from a top 101. We need programmers and professionals but no these shit parasites. |
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No we don't, we need less. Pools shall distribute the income to all holders. All delegates go away, they do not bring any benefit. Community Fund receiving the proceeds from delegates is not necessary. We don't need delegates. We need a high-end professionals and best programmers, which will be paid from money collected in the ICO, and will implement the roadmap in full. |
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Спасибо что подсказали, а от моего баланса роль играет в начисление? И по поводу скам не знаю в плане до 10 000 хочу взять по ка цена мала Делегаты: lisklottery - работает как шаринг-пул, только перечисляет не долю от нафордженного, а гарантированный процент от текущего призового фонда (в зависимости от силы голоса) и шанс выиграть его целиком. Фонд формируется не только из доходов от форджинга, но и от продажи ставок на участие.Джекпот - раз в неделю. Дальше Пулы: liskpool_com_01 - 85% liskpool_com_02 liskpool_com_03 liskpool_com_04 liskpool_com_05 liskpool_com_06 liskpool_com_07 liskpool_com_08 liskpool_com_09 liskpool_com_10 liskpool_com_11 liskpool_com_12 liskpool_com_13 liskpool_com_14 liskpool_com_15 liskpool_com_16 liskpool_com_17 liskpool_com_18 liskpool_com_19 liskpool_com_20 thepool 75% robinhood+liberspirita+diplo Отдает 100% от форджинга,голосовать за 3 нужно. shinekami - Отдает 85% от форджинга. Оплата идет раз в сутки если набралось больше 1 лиска. liskpool.top - пул,оплата 90% от форджинга, каждые 3 часа, по достижении 1 лиска rooney примерно 30% olejegcord - 75%,, каждые 6 часов, по достижении 1 лиска +azuredelegatepool - 50% - 162 место +badman0316 - 50% С этими rooney, azuredelegatepool, badman0316 не понятно как и сколько платят и платят ли вообще. Сайтов с какой либо статистикой выплат у них нет. |
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Пациент скорее мёртв чем жив ))) Вот такие вот итоги уходящего года по лиску... |
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