catapult doesn't exist
there is no release date
not even "in the summer" this is just a stupid rumor that blind idiots repeat since a year
Is it comparable to you telling everybody that you have a girlfriend?  |
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I've said earlier, that now is a critical time for NEM, we run the risk of losing too much market share/awareness with the lack of info coming out. But at the same time, hype not delivered on would be as much if not more damaging. I guess the only thing to do is wait and hope for the best... it can be nerve wracking though.
That's only relevant in the context of the current pool of buyers, none of whom are going to matter in the years to come. If NEM is good enough then it'll be used properly by the right people even if it's out hyped in the meantime. No real end user is going to pay attention to today's Poloniex volumes. Couple of big if's there. You have two options: 1.Be impatient and sell your XEM's 2.Or trust the NEM team It's up to you! |
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Unless NEM is marketed and updates are given with regards to development you can be damn sure that there will be no renewed interest. Apart from people checking this thread or looking at the NEM forum there is literally 0 awareness about the project. I see threads popping up about the best scalable blockchains etc left and right but in none of them
NEM is mentioned. That makes sense since it is kind of hard to know about upcoming features if they aren't being shared. Instead people put their money in mere concepts of blockchains rather than in one that has been working for quite some time already.
If you look at trading volume NEM has been at the bottom of the top 10 basically for as long as it has been there.
I was reading Lon Wong, the foundation president, writing on Telegram. It was all a tad strange. Every single poster was saying there weren't enough updates, transparency or marketing. He really didn't seem to think there was any type of issue and then kept asking what the problem was. He would be presented with the same list of problems again. Then he'd ask what the problem was once again. He justified the weirdly autistic approach with nominating the 2 billion + market cap as their achievement. Well, Poloniex pumpers were responsible for that, not them. There is a very strange lack of engagement compared to other coins. There's little or no project discussion anywhere. The only discussions taking place are about price or moaning about the wallets. I don't really know why it's so different compared to everything else but something needs to change. After all this time everyone's effectively still in the dark. That is very weird indeed. If anything a 2 billion market cap should warrant more communication as the stakes are significantly higher. Furthermore, if I recall correctly there is a marketing fund in addition to a community fund of some sorts of the leftover stakes, why isn't that being used? Honestly, I don't get it. NEM was started out of discontent with the way NXT was handled (terrible distribution, centralized decision making etc) but NEM is doing exactly the same at the moment. I was always pissed off because of their zero marketing and it is still annoying! But maybe the reason for their reservation is that they don't want to be hyped until they really have reached some of their goals. Or I am wrong and they don't have any idea how marketing works ....and that must be changed very soon! At the end NEM will have a lot of advertisement for free when Catapult will be released, because everybody will see that NEM will never have the same problems that BTC and ETH have right now! You can follow the Catapult procedure here, so you can see that there are some updates: https://forum.nem.io/t/stories-from-the-dev-front-diary/2641I know there is not so much information but the devs are alive;) and they are working on it! I really wished I had more money, I would by XEM as much as possible, it is very cheap right now and maybe will be cheaper in the next 1-2 months! |
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Oh yeah big dump Today!
Pls dump it a lot more,
hopefully to 0.10 $ till August, impatient dumbheads lool..
I would like to buy much more XEM:)
I count on you!
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a statement like this could be proven wrong, because less nodes and more reason to be online means more stability, not less, when people switch the bitcoin miner off, that makes the network less stable. but if people who've invest have a reason to be online, less nodes is more stable not less stable, therefore you're a fool.
isn't this the problem with bitcoin if it becomes unprofitable to mine at any point people will switch off. that becomes unstable, but less is more in a way.
OMG, you even don't know the difference between mining and nodes! Mining has nothing to do with nodes, people starting btc nodes just for helping the network, they get nothing for it, they do it for free! So you are wrong in all points! Noob... Well, always the same people who spend time destroying XBY.
It becomes an obsession?
Everyone well understood the opinion of these people there.
No need to be obstinate and to be malicious, not worth insulting, just sell and leave :-)
Simply Thanks
Be clear minded. If somone keeps coming here to attack a perfectly legitimate project and not the hundreds of scam icos amd shitcoins you can be 100% sure of one thing. They are trying to buy as much as they can and keep a lid on the price with fud. Be smart and recognise this and dont be one of the fools who doesnt understand it. This project really is going to be in the top 10. Everyone who knows this project knows it.
loool trying to defend their Coin without even one argument againts my comments! You guys don't like critical questions, don't you? That is typical for club members trying to defend their investment from suffering with no idea at all! This is not a religion, this is technology, you need arguments... Top 10 Coins!?! are you kidding very good joke! Together with BTC, ETH, NEM, DASH, IOTA loool ..not even in 10 years and of course not with this VIP Club community! You guys have no idea what is neccessary to get there. Do you really think I will be the last one asking for your node distribution? Every serious inverstor will ask for it and most of you noobs did not even know something about it untill now and just because I asked for it. So you should be thankful for my help ! That was my last comment, I wish you a lot of fun with your VIP node holder! Make them rich by buying / pumping and sending Xtrabytes, they will love you for doing it! Cee yaa |
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XBY is a community coin and anybody cain join us! We are just getting started  Are you kidding? it is not! It is a CLUB Coin with masyernodes for VIP's ! It is not even close to a community coin! You guys have no idea what a community coin is about... You can still get a node but it will cost you more because you are 10 weeks late This is a community coin - no ICO or premine or any kind of that stuff - and our members are right now creating different new websites for XBY  Later on the whole community will vote and the website with the most votes will become the new official website for XBY  No you can't, there are 512 node places reserved for your VIP's ! Yes you can, there are not 512 nodes registered right now. There is only about 470 last I checked, probably less. The remaining nodes will be open to registration to anyone, not "VIPs".  I will try to help out here also... First, the link you are using for STaTiC list was stopped after the 50K block and it shows 492, not 429 STaTiCs. However, this is no long accurate and you can see the accurate count at this URL: http://borzalom.hu/static-list-updated.htmlThe original STaTiC deposit amount was decided by the Community and there is nothing unfair about this. The people who recognized there was something special here had the vision to invest their money into the future of something they decided to believe in. We heavily and I mean HEAVILY promoted this opportunity on both the exchanges we were on at the time and also here on the forum and also on Slack. There was nothing secretive about this opportunity to set up a STaTiC node. In the future, another opportunity to make XBY deposits on smaller sized nodes will come and this has been revealed so that future investors can prepare themselves by buying up XBY in the dips with the amount of funds they have available. Again, nothing unfair about this and in fact this is done in the interest of fairness. We also will be putting some opportunities in place to give others the liberty or chance to own the broken or additional Level 1 STaTiC nodes that will bring the total to 512. How we do this has not yet been decided, but we will do this in the most fair way possible and in a way that ensures further decentralization and this will be decided by vote once we are ready to move forward. As far as unlimited nodes goes, this is not something that we can offer because we do not have unlimited coins. The reason why the required deposit of 500k XBY was needed is for the TRUST factor. Having thousands or millions of little nodes that are easily broken and replaced does not create TRUST. XtraBYtes is a new technology in development and therefore we ask that people not compare how we do things to how other coins do things. What may work for them may not work for us and until the full tech has been revealed, it will not be possible to make any sort of comparisons. Thank you for understanding and we look forward to seeing you as part of the XtraBYtes Community Corporation You are invested but have no idea lool, check this out^^ You see, not for everybody, only by decision for the few which are left! Btw what is the technical advantage for having only 512 nodes? let me see..hmm ...zero!! You see VIP Club for sure! Again, anyone can register the remaining nodes. Anyone. They will be constantly replaced when they get broken. Your VIP talk is just confusing to me. There is always a limit to how many nodes there are due to coin supply, even if it isn't directly stated. You did not really read the comment of CCRevolution!? What is going on here? Again for you:
We also will be putting some opportunities in place to give others the liberty or chance to own the broken or additional Level 1 STaTiC nodes that will bring the total to 512. How we do this has not yet been decided, but we will do this in the most fair way possible and in a way that ensures further decentralization and this will be decided by vote once we are ready to move forward.
You get it now??? there is no garantie for getting a node or a equal chance for getting a node, so it is not for everybody! AND AGAIN, WHAT IS THE TECHNICAL ADVANTAGE FOR HAVNG ONLY 512 NODES??? THERE IS NO ONE!! >>> LESS NODES = LESS STABLE NETWORK This system is only makes sense for the Node holder for making money! I am out here, you are a bunch of noobs with no idea at all! Not even able to read and to understand... Don't call Xtrabytes a community coin, it is not and I proved it! |
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XBY is a community coin and anybody cain join us! We are just getting started Are you kidding? it is not! It is a CLUB Coin with masyernodes for VIP's ! It is not even close to a community coin! You guys have no idea what a community coin is about... You can still get a node but it will cost you more because you are 10 weeks late This is a community coin - no ICO or premine or any kind of that stuff - and our members are right now creating different new websites for XBY Later on the whole community will vote and the website with the most votes will become the new official website for XBY No you can't, there are 512 node places reserved for your VIP's ! Yes you can, there are not 512 nodes registered right now. There is only about 470 last I checked, probably less. The remaining nodes will be open to registration to anyone, not "VIPs". I will try to help out here also... First, the link you are using for STaTiC list was stopped after the 50K block and it shows 492, not 429 STaTiCs. However, this is no long accurate and you can see the accurate count at this URL: http://borzalom.hu/static-list-updated.htmlThe original STaTiC deposit amount was decided by the Community and there is nothing unfair about this. The people who recognized there was something special here had the vision to invest their money into the future of something they decided to believe in. We heavily and I mean HEAVILY promoted this opportunity on both the exchanges we were on at the time and also here on the forum and also on Slack. There was nothing secretive about this opportunity to set up a STaTiC node. In the future, another opportunity to make XBY deposits on smaller sized nodes will come and this has been revealed so that future investors can prepare themselves by buying up XBY in the dips with the amount of funds they have available. Again, nothing unfair about this and in fact this is done in the interest of fairness. We also will be putting some opportunities in place to give others the liberty or chance to own the broken or additional Level 1 STaTiC nodes that will bring the total to 512. How we do this has not yet been decided, but we will do this in the most fair way possible and in a way that ensures further decentralization and this will be decided by vote once we are ready to move forward. As far as unlimited nodes goes, this is not something that we can offer because we do not have unlimited coins. The reason why the required deposit of 500k XBY was needed is for the TRUST factor. Having thousands or millions of little nodes that are easily broken and replaced does not create TRUST. XtraBYtes is a new technology in development and therefore we ask that people not compare how we do things to how other coins do things. What may work for them may not work for us and until the full tech has been revealed, it will not be possible to make any sort of comparisons. Thank you for understanding and we look forward to seeing you as part of the XtraBYtes Community Corporation You are invested but have no idea lool, check this out^^ You see, not for everybody, only by decision for the few which are left! Btw what is the technical advantage for having only 512 nodes? let me see..hmm ...zero!! You see VIP Club for sure! |
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XBY is a community coin and anybody cain join us! We are just getting started Are you kidding? it is not! It is a CLUB Coin with masyernodes for VIP's ! It is not even close to a community coin! You guys have no idea what a community coin is about... You can still get a node but it will cost you more because you are 10 weeks late This is a community coin - no ICO or premine or any kind of that stuff - and our members are right now creating different new websites for XBY Later on the whole community will vote and the website with the most votes will become the new official website for XBY No you can't, there are 512 node places reserved for your VIP's ! |
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XBY is a community coin and anybody cain join us! We are just getting started Are you kidding? it is not! It is a CLUB Coin with masyernodes for VIP's ! It is not even close to a community coin! You guys have no idea what a community coin is about... |
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can someone please explain why there isn't more DIMCOIN hype??
Because it is way too expensive, unfortunately! |
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dear god
bunch of delusional bag holders
xem have lost more than 50% of his value, with no sign of recovery but breaking support lines
but the main thing is: are the devs at least still alive ?
"catapult for summer 2017" is an old legend from 2016. have there been any real news about this ?
Actually a lot of us are original stake holders who have seen our holdings gain 5000% value so far this year and over 1 million % since we bought our stakes. Not sure what chart you are looking at that shows 50% decrease in value but I'll just guess you're a FUD slinging troll. Yes devs are alive: https://forum.nem.io/t/stories-from-the-dev-front-diary/2641You'll see ninja memes around here because the devs work quietly and do not hype the platform and just let their work speak for itself when it is complete. You'll notice pretty much all dev stakes worth up to 9 figures have not been touched which speaks volumes about the confidence they have in what they are working on. 14000 sat to 7000 sat is a 50% decrease No it is not, because in the same time Bitcoin goes up more than 100% ! |
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This decision was made by the early investiors, right?
And of course, these investors decided for this plan, who wouldn’t do that?!
What is fair about this decision when you are deciding for your own profit by knowing that the investors in the future won't have the chance to get into the same club!
They get a node for tiny money and now they can earn money without any work and nobody else can take it away from them? very good decision imo!
I know that there was a lot of work for promoting, but in every community, there are people who helping to promote the Coin at the beginning and most of the time they getting free coins for that job!
And these people know that if they are successful with the promotion the price will increase and they will be rich and because of that they are doing this job.
But getting a node for ever, come on that is way too much!
The early investors are the ones that saw the potential in XBY while still in the early stage. The decision for 500k/L1 node was made to have as many longterm investors as possible to create a stable and trusted network. Because XBY will be used to pay for services you can't have unlimited nodes. As i understand L2 nodes will be almost the same as L1, only thing is that to earn as much as a L1 node owner you need more L2 nodes because these will be cheaper. When these guys were promoting XBY alot of people didn't invest at low price because they didn't trust it yet. At start when i found out about XBY i didn't invest alot either because i didn't really have a lot of trust in it untill CC posted his first video. It was made clear from the start if i remember correctly that the amount of nodes would be limited. Sometimes you miss opportunities because you find out about something later than somebody else or you wait too long to invest early because you have not enough trust but that's how life is. It was all fair because all the information needed at that moment was out there, the thing is that you learned about XBY later than others. 1.I think, I clearly explained why it is not fair when you make a decision for your own profit and not for the community and mainly not for the future community! And I don't think that I missed a good a opportunity, I am a idealist and I don't wanna have a benefit like this. Believe me, this is not good for your blockchain and your community too. This was a big mistake imo and it was made made under pressure obviously, you will lose much credibility because of this matter. 2.Again I am not talking about unlimited nodes, I explained that too 3.It would be interesting to know how many L2 nodes you will need to get the same income? And are you allowed to get many L2 nodes and is the value of the L2 node limited like the masternodes? |
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I will try to help out here also... First, the link you are using for STaTiC list was stopped after the 50K block and it shows 492, not 429 STaTiCs. However, this is no long accurate and you can see the accurate count at this URL: http://borzalom.hu/static-list-updated.htmlThe original STaTiC deposit amount was decided by the Community and there is nothing unfair about this. The people who recognized there was something special here had the vision to invest their money into the future of something they decided to believe in. We heavily and I mean HEAVILY promoted this opportunity on both the exchanges we were on at the time and also here on the forum and also on Slack. There was nothing secretive about this opportunity to set up a STaTiC node. In the future, another opportunity to make XBY deposits on smaller sized nodes will come and this has been revealed so that future investors can prepare themselves by buying up XBY in the dips with the amount of funds they have available. Again, nothing unfair about this and in fact this is done in the interest of fairness. We also will be putting some opportunities in place to give others the liberty or chance to own the broken or additional Level 1 STaTiC nodes that will bring the total to 512. How we do this has not yet been decided, but we will do this in the most fair way possible and in a way that ensures further decentralization and this will be decided by vote once we are ready to move forward. As far as unlimited nodes goes, this is not something that we can offer because we do not have unlimited coins. The reason why the required deposit of 500k XBY was needed is for the TRUST factor. Having thousands or millions of little nodes that are easily broken and replaced does not create TRUST. XtraBYtes is a new technology in development and therefore we ask that people not compare how we do things to how other coins do things. What may work for them may not work for us and until the full tech has been revealed, it will not be possible to make any sort of comparisons. Thank you for understanding and we look forward to seeing you as part of the XtraBYtes Community Corporation First thank you CCRevolution for trying to explain my questions, I appreciate that! But I still can't agree ! The original STaTiC deposit amount was decided by the Community and there is nothing unfair about this. The people who recognized there was something special here had the vision to invest their money into the future of something they decided to believe in. We heavily and I mean HEAVILY promoted this opportunity on both the exchanges we were on at the time and also here on the forum and also on Slack. There was nothing secretive about this opportunity to set up a STaTiC node.
This decision was made by the early investiors, right? And of course, these investors decided for this plan, who wouldn’t do that?! What is fair about this decision when you are deciding for your own profit by knowing that the investors in the future won't have the chance to get into the same club! They get a node for tiny money and now they can earn money without any work and nobody else can take it away from them? very good decision imo! I know that there was a lot of work for promoting, but in every community, there are people who helping to promote the Coin at the beginning and most of the time they getting free coins for that job! And these people know that if they are successful with the promotion the price will increase and they will be rich and because of that they are doing this job. But getting a node for ever, come on that is way too much! As far as unlimited nodes goes, this is not something that we can offer because we do not have unlimited coins.
I am not talking about unlimited nodes! It was the right choice to set 500k Coins as a requirement. With this requirement, there can't be unlimited nodes. In the NEM blockchain for example you need 3 million Coins, but except that there is no limitation and everybody is equal in the system. The early investors bought a node for a cheap price, and the present investors must pay a lot more. This is how this has to be done ! I am sorry, but I am not going to be part of this community until it is a VIP Club where a handful people getting rich by doing nothing. And this important decision was made in the past by the same people. This is not a Coin for everybody, because not everybody has the same chance to get in and that is really a worse example for a crypto coin! I am really sad to tell you this, because I really like the idea of the blockchain and it took me 3 days for doing some research. I hope you will see that this is really not a fair distribution and hopefully you will change this soon! |
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Theres currently 429 nodes according to the static list http://borzalom.hu/static-list.htmlThere was talk about doing a sort of "raffle" to decide who gets the remaining nodes, it was mentioned about them being more expensive than the initial 500k because the original people placed more faith in the project in the early days and people joining now know more than the original node buyers did. After this, there has been talk of having tier 2 nodes, these would undoubtedly be cheaper nodes, however they would have less consensus power, and reduced fee payment percentages. Nodes will be sellable eventually on the new core wallet. So any of the 512 owners could put their node up for sale (probably for a bit more than market price), and anyone with the required XBY can purchase whatever is available. hmm, so unfortunately it sounds that it is better not to buy more for starting a node, because it is not clear if I can be one of the 512. Right? That is really bad I have to say! Congratulation to everybody who are invested from the beginning, but this guys still have a big benefit only because of the big price increase! I am always very careful with projects who benefits the first investors in such a way. I am sorry, but this sounds very dubious for me and back off people like me who will invest a lot of money! Why not having much more nodes, if the price increase there will be enough money for everybody who has a node! I am also invested in NEM and everybody can have a node, there is no limitation. Have much more nodes is also better for a stable network, I really don't understand the sense of this plan except of making rich people richer! I am not exactly sure what you are trying to say. Anyone with enough XBY will be given the chance to buy a tier 1 node, as some node owners will want to break their nodes to sell the 500k they used to create it. The broken nodes get replaced with new ones in a raffle system to keep the process fair (you get your XBY back if you do not win). Or you could buy one directly through the wallet from a node owner. And then there will be different tiered nodes that will be available. I am just saying that it is not for sure to start a node even if you buy a lot of XBY! Only having a chance to buy a node sounds like lottery to me, or I am wrong ? Or you could buy one directly through the wallet from a node owner
Why should somebody sell his high requestet node that brings you lot of money? Nobody would do that! Or you would do that only for a very high price! And then there will be different tiered nodes that will be available.
Sorry, but this sounds not fair to me! Early investors still getting too much benefits! And again, why not having equal nodes for everybody like in the NEM blockchain? |
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Theres currently 429 nodes according to the static list http://borzalom.hu/static-list.htmlThere was talk about doing a sort of "raffle" to decide who gets the remaining nodes, it was mentioned about them being more expensive than the initial 500k because the original people placed more faith in the project in the early days and people joining now know more than the original node buyers did. After this, there has been talk of having tier 2 nodes, these would undoubtedly be cheaper nodes, however they would have less consensus power, and reduced fee payment percentages. Nodes will be sellable eventually on the new core wallet. So any of the 512 owners could put their node up for sale (probably for a bit more than market price), and anyone with the required XBY can purchase whatever is available. hmm, so unfortunately it sounds that it is better not to buy more for starting a node, because it is not clear if I can be one of the 512. Right? That is really bad I have to say! Congratulation to everybody who are invested from the beginning, but this guys still have a big benefit only because of the big price increase! I am always very careful with projects who benefits the first investors in such a way. I am sorry, but this sounds very dubious for me and back off people like me who would like to invest a lot of money! Why not having much more nodes, if the price increases there will be enough money for everybody who has a node! I am also invested in NEM and everybody can have a node, there is no limitation. Have much more nodes is also better for a stable network, I really don't understand the sense of this plan except of making rich people richer! |
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Well theres planned to be 512 elite nodes.
Does this mean nobody else can have a node when 512 is reached? How many exist now? Thank you very much for your explanation, I am really interested to get enough XBY for a node! |
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how much is needed for a masternode ?
500k How much is the income of a masternode? |
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dear god
bunch of delusional bag holders
xem have lost more than 50% of his value, with no sign of recovery but breaking support lines
but the main thing is: are the devs at least still alive ?
"catapult for summer 2017" is an old legend from 2016. have there been any real news about this ?
What is the intention of your first comment ever! NEM is scam, or what? Right now the NEM technology is better than all other top 10 Coins, even without catapult! That is a fact! I am also pissed of about the zero marketing, but just because of that NEM is the most undervalued Coin and every new investor should be happy about that! You have to be very patient when you are invested in NEM, or you will lose a lot of money. chart indicators, catapult, current price, devs still alive ?? Forget all that. The elephant in the room is the fact the devs havnt cashed out!!. They could have been multi millionaires cashing out even a portion of their stakes over the last few months and they have not . (check the rich list). Why do you think that is That is the best indicator that the devs believe in their project and that something big is coming out soon! |
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"The DIM-COIN has a quantity commitment of 9 billion coins with the initial price starting at $0.01." Good to see another NEM based ICO but an initial valuation of 90 million seems way too high. I haven't gone through the entire white paper but hard to justify that price IMO. You are right, it is way too expensive! Ecobit is even more expensive, it makes no sense at all. ICO is not for collecting money to start a project anymore, it is just for take the money from people who have no idea. Status is also a good example for that! 0.01USD is expensive? I wonder what's cheap for you. I haven't gone through the whitepaper too but this is a good start for NEM. NEM platform is already mature enough for some tokens to be created on its chain. We're all waiting for all these to happen. Man, you have to keep the market cap in mind! DIM has 9 billion Coins, with this price the market cap would be round about 90 million $! Do you think DIM is 90 million worth right now!? Then go and buy some... NEM hast the same value of Coins, what was the price of XEM at the beginning? Think about that... We are in a new era now. ICOs are very valuable for the crypto market. ICOs are the main reason why the bull market is still sustained. We might not see a bear market at all this year if not next year either. Unfortunately more than 50% of the ICOs will fail. You've got to be too careful investing in any. I think 2018 will be the year for NEM ICOs. Perhaps all awaiting catapult. It has nothing to do with the new era! It is just a simple mathematic calculation! I am not saying that these Coins are scam, but the price will not go up when they are tradeable on the market for a long time. The price will even fall imo, just because the ICO was too expensive.... That is not the way ICO's should be, because it is always a risky investion with the hope to get more money back and not less! But it is the fault of the people to be stupid enough to pay mostly everything the investors ask for! If the people won't do that, we would have fair ICO's again... If you look into past ICO's that are now listed, almost all lost marketcap. ICO's are way overvalued right now. I bought my NEM stake at a 6 figure marketcap. It's hard to justify 90 million based only on a whitepaper. Best bet for these ICO's is to wait until they are listed and see what the market price is before investing. Chances are you'll get a better price than the ICO. Absolutely right! I will also wait and buy DIM when it is tradeable! |
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