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1601  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [PCL] Peculium - Speculation on: October 30, 2018, 04:09:49 PM

Peculium has a good future!

For those who missed our webinar, some bullet-points:

▶️ 60 (instead of 50) user chosen for BeliEve closed Beta 1st stage (Nov & Dec 2018); all 60 will receive an email from Monday October 29th

▶️ [Roadmap-Update] BeliEve Beta release for the public already in March 2019!

▶️ [PCL Token-value] We will implement a buy-back-program from all collected fees!

▶️ [BeliEve-fees]: will ONLY BE CHARGED IF USER MAKES PROFIT

▶️ [BeliEve-fees]:  25% deducted from the profit

▶️ [BeliEve-fees]: ONLY 12.5% deducted from the profit if user holds & pays the fees with PCL !!!
______________________________________________________________

All details and answers to the questions in our Live AMA/Webinar- replay:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyuzokpZ_KA&t=1052s
1602  Local / Altcoins (Deutsch) / Re: Hot Coins on: October 30, 2018, 01:32:47 PM
Neues von Peculium, die Highlights aus dem Live-AMA von letztem Freitag:

▶️ Am 29.10. werden alle ausgewählten für die Teilnahme an der ersten BeliEve closed Beta-Phase (die im Nov & Dez 2018 stattfindet) per eMail kontaktiert

▶️ die zweite BeliEve closed Beta-Phase wird im Januar 2019 starten und für 150 Teilnehmer geöffnet, auch dafür wird es zu gegebener Zeit wieder ein Auswahlverfahren geben

▶️ [Roadmap-Update] BeliEve Beta release wird bereits im März 2019 kommen (statt Q2 2019 lt. Roadmap) !

▶️ [PCL Token] Mit dem Start der ersten BeliEve closed Beta-Phase wird ein Buyback-Programm eingeführt, mit welchem die einbehaltenen Fees verwendet werden, um PCL vom Markt aufzukaufen !!

▶️ [BeliEve-Gebühren]: werden NUR ERHOBEN, WENN AUF GEWINNE ERHOBEN, also wenn BELIEVE keinen Gewinn für das User-Portfolio macht, wird es keine Gebühren geben!

▶️ [BeliEve-Gebühren]:  25% vom Profit am Laufzeitende

▶️ [BeliEve-Gebühren]: NUR 12.5% vom Profit am Laufzeitende wenn der User PCL erworben hat & die Gebühren damit bezahlt !!!
______________________________________________________________

Noch mehr Details und Antworten im Live-Webinar + AMA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyuzokpZ_KA&t=1052s


Ich kopiere mal von HildeX Smiley

Hinweis: Obwohl die Argumente für sich sprechen - ich stehe auf Peculium Payroll, bin also nicht unparteiisch.
1603  Local / Announcements (Deutsch) / Re: [ANN]PECULIUM - Erste Krypto-Spareinlagen Plattform basierend auf KI on: October 30, 2018, 01:29:55 PM
Neues von Peculium, die Highlights aus dem Live-AMA von letztem Freitag:

▶️ Am 29.10. werden alle ausgewählten für die Teilnahme an der ersten BeliEve closed Beta-Phase (die im Nov & Dez 2018 stattfindet) per eMail kontaktiert

▶️ die zweite BeliEve closed Beta-Phase wird im Januar 2019 starten und für 150 Teilnehmer geöffnet, auch dafür wird es zu gegebener Zeit wieder ein Auswahlverfahren geben

▶️ [Roadmap-Update] BeliEve Beta release wird bereits im März 2019 kommen (statt Q2 2019 lt. Roadmap) !

▶️ [PCL Token] Mit dem Start der ersten BeliEve closed Beta-Phase wird ein Buyback-Programm eingeführt, mit welchem die einbehaltenen Fees verwendet werden, um PCL vom Markt aufzukaufen !!

▶️ [BeliEve-Gebühren]: werden NUR ERHOBEN, WENN AUF GEWINNE ERHOBEN, also wenn BELIEVE keinen Gewinn für das User-Portfolio macht, wird es keine Gebühren geben!

▶️ [BeliEve-Gebühren]:  25% vom Profit am Laufzeitende

▶️ [BeliEve-Gebühren]: NUR 12.5% vom Profit am Laufzeitende wenn der User PCL erworben hat & die Gebühren damit bezahlt !!!
______________________________________________________________

Noch mehr Details und Antworten im Live-Webinar + AMA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyuzokpZ_KA&t=1052s
1604  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]PECULIUM - First Saving System in Crypto Driven by AI on: October 28, 2018, 09:14:41 PM
For those who missed our webinar, some bullet-points:

▶️ 60 (instead of 50) user chosen for BeliEve closed Beta 1st stage (Nov & Dec 2018); all 60 will receive an email from Monday October 29th

▶️ [Roadmap-Update] BeliEve Beta release for the public already in March 2019!

▶️ [PCL Token-value] We will implement a buy-back-program from all collected fees!

▶️ [BeliEve-fees]: will ONLY BE CHARGED IF USER MAKES PROFIT

▶️ [BeliEve-fees]:  25% deducted from the profit

▶️ [BeliEve-fees]: ONLY 12.5% deducted from the profit if user holds & pays the fees with PCL !!!
______________________________________________________________

All details and answers to the questions in our Live AMA/Webinar- replay:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyuzokpZ_KA&t=1052s
1605  Local / Announcements (Deutsch) / Re: [ANN]PECULIUM - Erste Krypto-Spareinlagen Plattform basierend auf KI on: October 27, 2018, 08:39:36 AM
Kann mir hier wer helfen?

Ich habe mir während des ICO PCL zugelegt und bin gerade zum wiederholten Mal am Swap gescheitert. Ich folge der offiziellen Anleitung, aber irgendwie ändert sich nix in meinem Wallet.

Muss ich die Dinger vorher noch defrosten oder hatte sich das mit dem Swap-Process erledigt? Also war der Swap eine Art Doppellösung auch für das Defrosting?

Danke euch!

Wie Caeschy richtig sagte, war das Update die Doppellösung, also kein Defrosten mehr notwendig seit Februar 2018.

Das Tutorial hast du schon, wenn ich es recht verstehe!?

Dann würde ich anbieten, dass du mich per PN kontaktierst (schick mir gern dein Telegram-Handle) und wir gehen da zusammen durch.

Das Tutorial wurde ja gelöscht: https://medium.com/@CryptoMax/how-to-defrost-pcl-tokens-2e2caa0e2d42
Hier im Thread hieß es mal man müsse von nun an für den Swap jemanden vom Team kontaktieren odergibts dafür noch eine weitere Anleitung?
Wie bereits erwähnt müsste ich das auch noch machen.

Korrekt, die Tutorials mussten mit den DSGVO-Änderungen im Sommer vom Netz genommen und individuell angefordert werden, aber das scheint Hilde ja schon gemacht zu haben ("Ich folge der offiziellen Anleitung, aber irgendwie ändert sich nix in meinem Wallet.").

Also biete ich ihm den 1-on-1- Support an, weil es einige Fehlerquellen gibt, wenn es nicht klappt.
1606  Local / Announcements (Deutsch) / Re: [ANN]PECULIUM - Erste Krypto-Spareinlagen Plattform basierend auf KI on: October 26, 2018, 05:27:27 PM
Kann mir hier wer helfen?

Ich habe mir während des ICO PCL zugelegt und bin gerade zum wiederholten Mal am Swap gescheitert. Ich folge der offiziellen Anleitung, aber irgendwie ändert sich nix in meinem Wallet.

Muss ich die Dinger vorher noch defrosten oder hatte sich das mit dem Swap-Process erledigt? Also war der Swap eine Art Doppellösung auch für das Defrosting?

Danke euch!

Wie Caeschy richtig sagte, war das Update die Doppellösung, also kein Defrosten mehr notwendig seit Februar 2018.

Das Tutorial hast du schon, wenn ich es recht verstehe!?

Dann würde ich anbieten, dass du mich per PN kontaktierst (schick mir gern dein Telegram-Handle) und wir gehen da zusammen durch.
1607  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ETZ]EtherZero - Fork 1:1 of Ethereum | 0 TX Fee | Masternode | 10000+ TPS on: October 25, 2018, 09:19:33 PM
Hello together,

I´ve just read that it still is possible (and will always be until the end of the Blockchain) to claim ETZ when owning ETH in January - is this accurate?!

If so: what needs to be done (the ETH has been held in MEW) to claim them?

Yes it is true.. you can always redeem your etz coins wherever it pleases you... there are several ways to do this but the most convenient is using your private key to create an account in the Etherzero web wallet https://wallet.etherzero.org/

Great, thanks!

Just: isn´t the most convenient way to just change the Node in MEW/MyCrypto?
1608  Local / Altcoins (Deutsch) / Re: Hot Coins on: October 25, 2018, 09:14:40 PM

Ein weiteres #ownama von gerade eben

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHAZ2zpTYY4

Ganz ehrlich, vergesst mal kurz alle anderen shitcoins da draußen .. wer bei CHX nicht mit mindestens 0.1 BTC long term investiert ist, wird sich spätestens im Q1 2019 sowas von hart in den Arsch beißen ..

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$chx is like buying $eth at $1.

DYOR!

Der Chart auf cmc sieht auf 1 Monats Sicht genauso aus wie Dezember17/Januar18 von BTC.
Ist die Blase schon geplatzt oder kommt da noch was?

Also Chart-analytisch würde ich sagen, jetzt ist erstmal Konsolidierung angesagt.

Aber: Ich nix Profi-Trader Smiley
1609  Local / Altcoins (Deutsch) / Re: Hot Coins on: October 25, 2018, 08:09:00 AM
Da wir das ja auch schonmal angestrebt haben, hier kann man "empfohlene" Bountymanager finden (und für "unseren" Criptix abstimmen, wenn man mag):

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5032713.40
1610  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PCL] Peculium - Discussion on: October 24, 2018, 06:18:15 PM
I really don't think that coins like peculium will survive or even stabilize, even though I used to think that PCL is not good for long-term storage. Maybe if the btc is stable PCL prices will go up again

Why do you think that?

For me it´s the other way round. I think only projects with a real-world use AND working-product will survive this bear-market whilste all the "idea-projects" will leave the stage.

1611  Local / Altcoins (Deutsch) / Re: Hot Coins on: October 24, 2018, 12:14:51 PM
Heute ist der letzte Tag, an dem man sich für Peculium´s Closed Beta von "BeliEve" bewerben kann!

Wie?  http://ow.ly/xzAp30mcM4K

Ab Mitternacht (GMT) werden keine Einträge mehr angenommen und die 50 Teilnehmer dementsprechend aus dem dann aktuellen Pool in der kommenden Woche ausgewählt.

Details: https://medium.com/@Peculium/beli%CE%BEves-closed-beta-version-plans-dedicated-live-webinar-30f2885cf887?platform=hootsuite

Quelle: https://t.me/ico_peculium/157648
1612  Local / Announcements (Deutsch) / Re: [ANN]PECULIUM - Erste Krypto-Spareinlagen Plattform basierend auf KI on: October 24, 2018, 12:12:16 PM
Heute ist der letzte Tag, an dem man sich für Peculium´s Closed Beta von "BeliEve" bewerben kann!

Wie?  http://ow.ly/xzAp30mcM4K

Ab Mitternacht (GMT) werden keine Einträge mehr angenommen und die 50 Teilnehmer dementsprechend aus dem dann aktuellen Pool in der kommenden Woche ausgewählt.

Details: https://medium.com/@Peculium/beli%CE%BEves-closed-beta-version-plans-dedicated-live-webinar-30f2885cf887?platform=hootsuite

Quelle: https://t.me/ico_peculium/157648
1613  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [PCL] Peculium - Speculation on: October 24, 2018, 12:09:42 PM
✴️ Last chance to join our closed BeliΞve Beta ! ✴️

Wed. October 24th 23:59 UTC/GMT, we close the registration form!

The number of customers we can accommodate is strictly limited to 50 users only!

Now, this is your last chance to be amongst those first users ever!

If you want to use the platform please let us know today by only filling in the questions ➡️ http://ow.ly/xzAp30mcM4K
___________________________________________________________

We are proud that already so many of you expressed their interest to be part of it, but please bare in mind that we can not include all of you as we already have much more applicants then seats available.

To choose the participants we have our own grading rubric to calculate the underlying formula for the choices.

This formula includes parameters such as:
✅ amount of PCL the applicant is holding in his private wallet*
✅ the amount the user is willing to invest (filled in the reg. form)
✅ since when the users’ private wallet* is holding PCL (advantage to early investors)

📌In case you will not be selected, please refuse from asking for reasons.

https://medium.com/@Peculium/beli%CE%BEves-closed-beta-version-plans-dedicated-live-webinar-30f2885cf887?platform=hootsuite

Source: https://t.me/ico_peculium/157648
1614  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PCL] Peculium - Discussion on: October 24, 2018, 12:09:34 PM
✴️ Last chance to join our closed BeliΞve Beta ! ✴️

Wed. October 24th 23:59 UTC/GMT, we close the registration form!

The number of customers we can accommodate is strictly limited to 50 users only!

Now, this is your last chance to be amongst those first users ever!

If you want to use the platform please let us know today by only filling in the questions ➡️ http://ow.ly/xzAp30mcM4K
___________________________________________________________

We are proud that already so many of you expressed their interest to be part of it, but please bare in mind that we can not include all of you as we already have much more applicants then seats available.

To choose the participants we have our own grading rubric to calculate the underlying formula for the choices.

This formula includes parameters such as:
✅ amount of PCL the applicant is holding in his private wallet*
✅ the amount the user is willing to invest (filled in the reg. form)
✅ since when the users’ private wallet* is holding PCL (advantage to early investors)

📌In case you will not be selected, please refuse from asking for reasons.

https://medium.com/@Peculium/beli%CE%BEves-closed-beta-version-plans-dedicated-live-webinar-30f2885cf887?platform=hootsuite

Source: https://t.me/ico_peculium/157648
1615  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]PECULIUM - First Saving System in Crypto Driven by AI on: October 24, 2018, 11:57:59 AM
✴️ Last chance to join our closed BeliΞve Beta ! ✴️

Wed. October 24th 23:59 UTC/GMT, we close the registration form!

The number of customers we can accommodate is strictly limited to 50 users only!

Now, this is your last chance to be amongst those first users ever!

If you want to use the platform please let us know today by only filling in the questions ➡️ http://ow.ly/xzAp30mcM4K
___________________________________________________________

We are proud that already so many of you expressed their interest to be part of it, but please bare in mind that we can not include all of you as we already have much more applicants then seats available.

To choose the participants we have our own grading rubric to calculate the underlying formula for the choices.

This formula includes parameters such as:
✅ amount of PCL the applicant is holding in his private wallet*
✅ the amount the user is willing to invest (filled in the reg. form)
✅ since when the users’ private wallet* is holding PCL (advantage to early investors)

📌In case you will not be selected, please refuse from asking for reasons.

https://medium.com/@Peculium/beli%CE%BEves-closed-beta-version-plans-dedicated-live-webinar-30f2885cf887?platform=hootsuite

Source: https://t.me/ico_peculium/157648
1616  Local / Altcoins (Deutsch) / Re: Hot Coins on: October 23, 2018, 09:43:35 PM
Delisting & Wallet- Removal bei Bittrex:

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We are retiring wallets that do not have markets: Bitcoin Gold (BTG) and Bitcoin Private (BTCP). Wallet removals are a routine part of our ongoing platform management for performance and operational efficiency.

For any customers that have balances within those wallets, they must withdrawal their assets before Monday, November 5, 2018. After this date, the assets will become unrecoverable.

Quelle: https://support.bittrex.com/hc/en-us/articles/360001391586-Wallet-Removal-on-November-5-2018
_______________________________________________________________________________ _________________________________

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The following markets will be removed on October 26th, 2018:

BTC-BCY
BTC-EFL
BTC-ENRG
BTC-TRUST
BTC-XMG

Quelle: https://support.bittrex.com/hc/en-us/articles/360001383023-Pending-Market-Removals-10-26-2018

Also die Märkte für Bitcrystals, e-Gulden, Energycoin,  TrustPlus & Magi werden am 26.10.2018 entfernt

Ich meine Magi wurde auch hier vor geraumer Zeit mal als "hot" bewertet.
_______________________________________________________________________________ _________________________________

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The following markets will be removed on October 19th, 2018:

BTC-AUR
BTC-BYC
BTC-CRB
BTC-OMNI
BTC-SPR

Wer noch Auroracoin, Bytecent, Creditbit, Omni (nicht Omnitude, was einigen hier vllt. einen kurzen Schrecken versetzt hat  Wink ) und Spreadcoin zeitnah von Bittrex holen.

Quelle: https://support.bittrex.com/hc/en-us/articles/360001374623-Pending-Market-Removals-10-19-2018
_______________________________________________________________________________ _________________________________

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The following markets will be removed on October 12th, 2018:

BTC-ERC
BTC-LMC
BTC-PTC
BTC-RBY
BTC-UNB

Europecoin, LoMoCoin, Pesetacoin, Rubycoin & UnbreakableCoin (auch LoMo wurde hier mal in die Runde geworfen, allerdings auch schon einige Monde her).

Quelle: https://support.bittrex.com/hc/en-us/articles/360001384986-Pending-Market-Removals-10-12-2018
_______________________________________________________________________________ _________________________________

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The following markets will be removed on October 5th, 2018:

BTC-CFI
BTC-CLAM

Betrifft Cofound.it & Clams.

Quelle: https://support.bittrex.com/hc/en-us/articles/360001370746-Pending-Market-Removals-10-5-2018

-------------------------------------------------------

Noch eine Besonderheit zu Cofound.it:

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Closing Cofound.it as crowdfunding market disappears and presenting good practice for ICOs

Quelle: https://blog.cofound.it/closing-cofound-it-as-crowdfunding-market-disappears-and-presenting-good-practice-for-icos-796db5e001b8

_______________________________________________________________________________ _________________________________

Ist gewiss für jeden etwas dabei Wink

Sieht alles in allem so aus, als würde Bittrex mal ordentlich durchkehren.
1617  Local / Altcoins (Deutsch) / Re: Hot Coins on: October 23, 2018, 09:28:13 PM
Bestehende Accounts sollen erstmal bleiben

https://twitter.com/Poloniex/status/1054839799209750529

Soweit so "ganz OK", aber ich vertraue im Zweifelsfall dann doch eher der offiziellen Meldung und werde mein Portfolio von Poloniex abziehen.

Danke dennoch für die Zusatzinfo!
1618  Local / Altcoins (Deutsch) / Re: Hot Coins on: October 23, 2018, 08:13:06 PM
!!! Für alle unter uns, die einen Poloniex-Account haben !!!

Gestern hat mich eine eMail erreicht, die vermuten lässt, dass Nutzer mit Wohnsitz in Deutschland ab 18.11.2018 von der Poloniex-Nutzung ausgesperrt werden!

https://poloniex.com/terms/

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The websites and the services offered by Poloniex (as defined below) are NOT addressed to persons who have their registered office or place of residence in China, Germany, Pakistan, the U.S. states of New Hampshire, New York or Washington, Vietnam or any other Restricted Territories as defined in Section 37.

Ich habe dies jetzt mal in im Poloniex-ANN angefragt und -bevor Panik- ausbricht, könnten wir schauen, ob wir dies dort bestätigt bekommen:

Hi together,

yesterday I´ve received an email from Poloniex (...@cx.poloniex.com) - is this a legit email-adress?

Anyway that´s the content:

Quote
Hello,

We recently updated our Poloniex User Agreement. We have also introduced a Cookie Policy and E-Sign Consent.

The new User Agreement will become applicable to your use of the Poloniex service on November 2, 2018 so please familiarize yourself with it before then.

The changes to the User Agreement are designed to provide you with greater clarity and certainty surrounding your use of the Poloniex services and form part of the Poloniex team's continuous effort to improve the performance of the exchange and to better serve our customers.

We greatly appreciate your support as we work to continuously improve the experience on Poloniex.

Best,

The Poloniex Team

Opening the hyperlink at "User Agreement" a loooong long page opens: https://poloniex.com/terms/ (Printing this would probably cost the nature a 100-yr-old tree.)

And now the introductional sentences came quite confusing to me:

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If you are signing up for Poloniex on or after October 18, 2018, this User Agreement shall be effective immediately. If you signed up for Poloniex prior to October 18, 2018, this User Agreement shall be effective on November 18, 2018 and the User Agreement effective until that date can be found here.

THIS AGREEMENT CONTAINS A BINDING ARBITRATION CLAUSE AND CLASS ACTION WAIVER THAT IMPACT YOUR RIGHTS ABOUT HOW TO RESOLVE DISPUTES. PLEASE READ IT CAREFULLY.

The websites and the services offered by Poloniex (as defined below) are NOT addressed to persons who have their registered office or place of residence in China, Germany, Pakistan, the U.S. states of New Hampshire, New York or Washington, Vietnam or any other Restricted Territories as defined in Section 37.

Well, I do have a place of residence in Germany, does this new "User Agreement" tell us German residents that we will not longer be able to register "on or after October 18, 2018" as well as cannot use Poloniex´ services from November 18,2018 "If you signed up for Poloniex  prior to October 18, 2018," ?

Ich werde hier updaten; wer den Thread unabhängig von mir verfolgen möchte: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=420836.msg47199253#msg47199253
1619  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][EXCHANGE] Poloniex - Crypto Exchange with BTC/NXT on: October 23, 2018, 07:32:05 PM
Hi together,

yesterday I´ve received an email from Poloniex (...@cx.poloniex.com) - is this a legit email-adress?

Anyway that´s the content:

Quote
Hello,

We recently updated our Poloniex User Agreement. We have also introduced a Cookie Policy and E-Sign Consent.

The new User Agreement will become applicable to your use of the Poloniex service on November 2, 2018 so please familiarize yourself with it before then.

The changes to the User Agreement are designed to provide you with greater clarity and certainty surrounding your use of the Poloniex services and form part of the Poloniex team's continuous effort to improve the performance of the exchange and to better serve our customers.

We greatly appreciate your support as we work to continuously improve the experience on Poloniex.

Best,

The Poloniex Team

Opening the hyperlink at "User Agreement" a loooong long page opens: https://poloniex.com/terms/ (Printing this would probably cost the nature a 100-yr-old tree.)

And now the introductional sentences came quite confusing to me:

Quote
If you are signing up for Poloniex on or after October 18, 2018, this User Agreement shall be effective immediately. If you signed up for Poloniex prior to October 18, 2018, this User Agreement shall be effective on November 18, 2018 and the User Agreement effective until that date can be found here.

THIS AGREEMENT CONTAINS A BINDING ARBITRATION CLAUSE AND CLASS ACTION WAIVER THAT IMPACT YOUR RIGHTS ABOUT HOW TO RESOLVE DISPUTES. PLEASE READ IT CAREFULLY.

The websites and the services offered by Poloniex (as defined below) are NOT addressed to persons who have their registered office or place of residence in China, Germany, Pakistan, the U.S. states of New Hampshire, New York or Washington, Vietnam or any other Restricted Territories as defined in Section 37.

Well, I do have a place of residence in Germany, does this new "User Agreement" tell us German residents that we will not longer be able to register "on or after October 18, 2018" as well as cannot use Poloniex´ services from November 18,2018 "If you signed up for Poloniex  prior to October 18, 2018," ?
1620  Other / Off-topic / Re: Merit System Upgrade on: October 23, 2018, 02:15:34 PM

Full members, Sr. Members and Hero Members really got screwed with the merit system. Some of them were really close to leveling up and now have to wait until they’ve impressed the right person to probably get only one merit point from them. The most extreme case of this is Hero Member. They may need hundreds of merit points to level up which could take a very long time to get.


Well said, as with the day of merit-introduction I was 2 periods away from becoming Sr. Member. Unfortunatelly I´ve started a full-time job in the same month so that the time for quality to collect 150 fresh Merits was short.

Anyway meanwhile I´ve managed to collect a good amount and just in time found out your thread.

Thus I´d like to take the chance:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2249486.msg45678981#msg45678981

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2249486.msg43945684#msg43945684

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4905507.msg44175000#msg44175000

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2249486.msg40908907#msg40908907

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2844302.msg37385827#msg37385827

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3203837.msg33472340#msg33472340

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2249486.msg32637010#msg32637010

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2249486.msg30779471#msg30779471
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