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1601  Local / Юристы / Re: Будет ли в России оплата криптой? on: June 03, 2023, 08:09:04 PM
Как Отправить USDT TRC-20 Без Комиссии? Как НЕ ПЛАТИТЬ Комиссии За Перевод с Других Кошельков в Tron
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgRLfjFRC1g

Это баг с энергией? На другом адресе половина делегированной энергии потрачена, а как основной адрес забирает всю энергию обратно?
1602  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Am I right about this or not on: June 03, 2023, 07:55:16 PM
Guys correct me if I am wrong, somebody ask me a question about what will happen to Bitcoin miners after all available bitcoin have been mined and no more halving every four years, will miners go out of business?
If miners go out of business who will manage the network and mine the unconfirmed transaction into the block? Miners will never go out of business but they will only depend on transaction fees and there's a chance for a huge transaction after the whole 21M BTC is mine and there's no more halving.

The Bitcoin blockchain is secure when there are many miners processing transactions. Each miner has its own cost of electricity and equipment maintenance. When the profit falls, those miners who have high costs will leave mining. If 50% of miners leave mining, then the other 50% who remain will receive 2 times more profit. The number of miners depends on the profit, I think few miners will work with minus profit.
So the limited minner will receive x2 rewards if some high percentage exit mining, this is somewhat unbelievable and impossible for miners to exist on the network due to limited minimum reward resulting from a reduction in bitcoin block reward due to the scarcity of bitcoin, but the ultimate question is, would that likely become the reality i don't think so, things like fees and other may change but the reduction in the number of minners will not change rather it may increase in the future.

Bitcoin the question about Bitcoin halving i don't think this event will ever change as long as the Bitcoin network remains.
The main reward of the miner decreases every halving by 50%.
The increase in reward can happen when a lot of miners go offline or network fees are high.
If 5% of miners leave to mine other coins or turn off mining, then this may not be noticeable for profit.
1603  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Question for Miners on: June 03, 2023, 07:48:17 PM
Yes it is. Miners can reject transactions if they wish. From look of things, they accept high fee transactions more than lower fee transactions and when miners reject transaction that transaction would automatically come back the sender's wallet. I don't think there is any consequences of rejected transaction because the rejected transaction would come back your wallet.  But the only consequence which I could remember is the delay of confirmation. If a miner rejects a transaction to the next block, it will take some time before another miner will see and add it to his block so there will be delay on movement.
Miners cannot reject transactions, transactions are managed by the administration of 5 large bitcoin mining pools.
I don't remember pools asking miners about this.
But the sender has the opportunity to increase the commission so that the miners add it to their block faster.
1604  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Danger of posting your bitcoin address online on: June 03, 2023, 06:33:34 PM
Why publish your main bitcoin address unnecessarily?
Create a new wallet in Electrum if you need to and post it on the forum. There will be no large transactions there, so using a VPN service will be enough for you.
1605  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Scam with USDT TRC20 token on: June 02, 2023, 10:19:32 PM
Do you mean that when you send or receive USDT from one wallet, immediately there will be another transaction added with a separate token that is not the exact same USDT sent or received?But this time it's only 0 tokens sent. Or is it the same USDT that will come to the wallet, but this time it's just 0 that will be sent, just like one can easily send out 0 matic under the polygon network and the only thing you have to pay is the fee?

I'm asking because I haven't used the Tron network for a long time now, and it will really be nice for one to take note of the recent happenings before they could be turned into scammers new method of sending fake coins.
The scammer does not need to use fake tokens, as the USDT smart contract has a bug that allows you to send zero transactions from your wallet.
This is an attack on your mindfulness. If you copy the address from a previous transaction, then you will pay the scammer for your inattention.
Do not copy addresses from transaction history.
1606  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Scam with USDT TRC20 token on: June 02, 2023, 09:08:06 PM
After the first payment with USDT TRC20 tokens, you can see a second transaction to a similar address from your wallet. The second transaction is 0 USDT. It really surprised me.
Then I found out that any programmer who knows how to make such smart contracts can send such a transaction,but he will pay a commission and it is possible to send only 0 tokens.
I found out about it today. If you copy wallets from the transaction history, then you can send tokens to a fraudulent address.
1607  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Am I right about this or not on: June 02, 2023, 08:53:02 PM
Guys correct me if I am wrong, somebody ask me a question about what will happen to bitcoin miners after all available bitcoin have been mined and no more halving every four years, will miners go out of business?
If miners go out of business who will manage the network and mine the unconfirmed transaction into the block? Miners will never go out of business but they will only depend on transaction fees and there's a chance for a huge transaction after the whole 21M BTC is mine and there's no more halving.

The Bitcoin blockchain is secure when there are many miners processing transactions. Each miner has its own cost of electricity and equipment maintenance. When the profit falls, those miners who have high costs will leave mining. If 50% of miners leave mining, then the other 50% who remain will receive 2 times more profit. The number of miners depends on the profit, I think few miners will work with minus profit.
1608  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Question for Miners on: June 02, 2023, 08:42:53 PM

This is just straightforward question, can a miner decide which transaction to accept into a block and which to reject? And is there any consequence for rejecting a transaction? If this were possible what happens to the rejected transactions?


The straightforward answer to your question is "Yes," because a miner has the power of decision in such situations. It's the miner's choice to add a transaction into the next block, and they can reject the transactions with low fees without any restrictions.

The network won't penalize those miners who reject those transactions with very low fees and even if transactions are with high fees the miners can still reject those without any issues. Even in this case the network won't punish the miners for not including high fee transactions. However, in this case they will lose those higher fees which isn't a good practice for a miner.

Those transactions that are rejected by one miner can be accepted by another miner. All it needs is the consent of the next miner to add it into the next block, and the transaction will get confirmed without any issues. If the set fee is very low then I don't think that any miner would like to include those transactions into the next block.
Only large mining pools have a policy on transactions. Unknown miners rarely mine blocks, so they will by default take the transactions with the highest fees.
Even if they have restrictions, they will not affect anything due to the small number of blocks mined.
1609  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: mining one block with low hashrate on: June 02, 2023, 08:35:44 PM
Mysterious Anonymous Bitcoin Miner Rakes in $1.7 Million in $BTC Rewards in a Day

"A mysterious new cryptocurrency miner has managed to, seemingly as a new participant, mine over $1.7 million worth of the flagship cryptocurrency Bitcoin ($BTC) within a single day by managing to find numerous blocks.

Each Bitcoin block contains 6.25 BTC, along with the transaction fees paid for the transactions included in that block. The fact that the miner’s identity remains obscured has piqued interest across established mining pools, as it eluded notable names like Binance Pool and AntPool."

Are you also interested in what hashrate this miner worked with?
I think with such luck it was not a small hashrate.

1610  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Russia Becomes World’s Second-Largest Crypto Miner on: June 02, 2023, 04:44:39 PM
Russian Miners Mint Crypto Worth $700 Million a Year, Mining Bill Postponed
"Russian Crypto Miners Produce Coins for up to 60 Billion Rubles in 2022
Miners operating in Russia have minted cryptocurrencies for an estimated 50 – 60 billion rubles ($620 million – $740 million) last year, the Director of the Skolkovo Fintech Hub Pavel Novikov announced, quoted by the Prime business news agency."

I do not know what data these statements are based on, but there are a lot of miners in Russia and they do not leave for other countries.
1611  Local / Майнеры / Re: Майнинг здох? on: June 02, 2023, 04:39:10 PM
а на следующем халвинге? а через один? два? я ж не говорю, что на этом всё закончится. хотя добыто уже больше 90% если я не разучился считать. поднимая цену для профитности добычи до условных 100к, ты обеспечиваешь работой с небольшим профитом майнеров и надуваешь балансы ходлерам и спекулянтам в 9 раз большим объемом(это даже если не считать следующие халвинги и дальнейший рост необходимый для профита майнеров).
ЗЫ. на этом халвинге я всё еще жду новый атх, а на следующем уже нет.
До следующего еще 5 лет, и там видно будет. Асики сильно современнее и дешевле за год не станут, а профит майнеров порежется.
Сложность снова ставит рекорды, больше 51 Т.
Миллиона за биткоин мы по твоему не увидим?
если он и будет, я до него точно не додержу. сотку пробьем думаю, а дальше ловить точку выхода буду.
На техническом анализе трейдеры рисуют больше сотки, но это все на бумаге.
Чьи деньги отправят ракету на луну и сделают майнеров богатыми?
1612  Local / Майнеры / Re: Донеси на майнера в РФ on: June 02, 2023, 04:30:37 PM
Тут директор некоей государственной финтех-компании из сколково заявил что майнеры в РФ за 2022 год намайнили на 700 лямов баксов. Мне вот интересно откуда у него такая информация? Это ж надо как то отслеживать этих майнеров. Это вообще возможно отследить? Я ж не думаю что эти майнеры официально майнят и платят налоги.
Может некоторые майнеры вынуждены немного оплачивать как налоги, но не торопятся официально работать.
По битку и кефиру были данные о майнинге с России. На их основании может в финтех-компании насчитали такой доход.
По другим шиткоинам таких данных на пулах нет. Если закон заработает в 2024 году, то статистика откроется еще через год.
1613  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: Fun, fair and transparent BTC giveaway ! ROUND #4 on: June 02, 2023, 04:17:31 PM
Username: safar1980
BTC addy: bc1qdc36a6dq7xuv7dsqqsawqfr0v5nv5h7xq6hc45
1614  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: RTX 5090 and others on: June 01, 2023, 06:24:53 PM
Look at this massive cooling system from MSI
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5413085.msg62339571#msg62339571
The RTX 5090 will be hotter than the previous model and manufacturers will install such huge cooling systems.
1615  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: RTX 4090 and others on: June 01, 2023, 06:16:35 PM
MSI prototypes for the future of graphics card cooling look impressive and expeмnsive

"Assuming the next-generation of graphics cards will be more power-hungry than the last, we could end up in a pickle trying to keep them cool. I mean, look at the RTX 4090, it's already massive. Our PC cases can't take much more. But there's more to cooling than bigger and bigger heatsinks, and over at Computex 2023, MSI has shown off a couple of concepts it's looking into that can drop GPU temps by as much as ten degrees."
1616  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Question for Miners on: June 01, 2023, 06:09:06 PM


Yes which means the top pools could reject all tx under 50 sats a byte

Thus forcing all tx to cost a shit ton of btc.

if the top five pools choose to act like Opec would do with oil prices you would be paying high tx fees all the time.

As a miner if this list is accurate

https://www.blockchain.com/explorer



Foundry USA--------31.613%

AntPool--------------20.000%

F2Pool---------------15.484%

Binance Pool--------  8.548%

ViaBTC--------------  7.903%

the top pools make over 83% of the blocks

As of 12noon today they could all reject any tx under 50 sats a byte

this would result in tx fees going up bigly

and as a miner I would not switch from them as I would be earning more money and moving to the lessor pools would mean lower fees and slow block earning as 17% of the hash is not very many blocks.

The only thing that could help would be very robust LN network.
I liked your comparison with OPEC.
But everyone needs oil, there are no analogues to it, and bitcoin has alternatives.
If the fees are high, then there will be fewer users, and the pools will be forced to reduce the requirements for fees or mine incomplete blocks.
1617  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: How can i start bitcoin mining? on: June 01, 2023, 06:02:52 PM
You can find good information on how you can start Bitcoin mining on various popular search websites. And all those websites are very well mentioned how you can start bitcoin mining. To start Bitcoin mining you will first need some Bitcoin mining equipment. First of all you need a good quality computer for mining, secondly you need to install a good mining software. Bitcoin wallet will be required and you will need electricity for mining and some other necessary items you will need to collect for mining.
You don’t need a good quality computer to mine bitcoin, because any office computer or an inexpensive laptop is enough to set up ASICs.
Asics need a special room, because mining is not possible in an apartment. Noise can be overcome with water cooling, but getting the necessary power in the apartment is already a problem. Even if you install ASICs instead of electric stoves, you will have very large electricity bills
So water cooling with ASIC Miner is possible ? I don't know that this is possible, can you direct me to any tutorial or any video to just see how this thing works out ? because this is my first time of hearing that water cooling works on Asic miner I don't believe it's possible until I see this with my two eyes,  can you please drop a link or something?

Running an Asic miner is like running a GPU miner with 8 video cards, I believe that an Asic miner takes up to 3500 watts from the wall, so how can this not work in a house? You can just instal in a store or room that no one is using, if there is enough air flow it's better, air flow is the only reason why I won't run an Asic miner in a room but it's possible. If water cooling works it's even going to be better.

https://coinminingcentral.com/products/bitmain-antminer-s19-hydro-158-th-s

The Model Antminer S19 Hydro (151.5Th) from Bitmain mines Bitcoin on the  SHA-256 algorithm with a maximum hashrate of 151.5Th/s for a power consumption of 5226W.

Bitmain’s first-ever liquid-cooled S19 miner, the S19 Hydro is more powerful and provides a high hashrate for the fastest ROI possible.

The S19 Hydro boosts energy savings and takes extra steps towards environmental protection.

The S19 Hydro provides the latest cooling technology, which avoids overheating issues. This ensures the highest level of performance, with reduced downtime using a state of the art liquid cooling solution.

The Bitmain Antminer S19 Hydro uses the latest generation firmware providing an effortless and optimised mining experience. This ensures a  faster start-up speed while hydro cooling technology allows for ease of use and high-performance standards.

Any miner will tell you that water cooling is more expensive and requires more attention when connecting equipment. Video cards with water cooling are expensive, and the cooling system in asics is more complicated. Fans are cheaper, but noise is not a problem for large miners. This is only a problem for small miners who want to install equipment in an apartment Smiley
1618  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Miners Should Consider the Lower Transaction Fees on: June 01, 2023, 05:54:05 PM
A few days ago Bitcoin transaction charges were almost normal but lately Bitcoin transaction charges have increased a lot. Those who need to trade small amounts of bitcoins will not be able to trade bitcoins at this time because the transaction fees for small amounts of bitcoins will be very high. If people can't transact Bitcoin properly then people will move away from this coin and show more interest in coins with relatively low transaction fees. So Bitcoin transaction fees should be somewhat normal for everyone's convenience.
There are no large trading fees on centralized exchanges, and Bitcoin users will transact as long as it suits them.
And the growth of commissions is influenced by a large number of tokens in the bitcoin blockchain.
But it is good for miners, so problems for users give profit to miners.
1619  Local / Майнеры / Re: Майнинг здох? on: June 01, 2023, 02:59:10 PM

Рост мощный вопросов нет, даже если отбросить сарказм.
Вообще руководство Нвидиа четко чует тренды и жестко выдаивает всех по цепочке. Вначале пошел взлет на майнинге 17 года, потом припрятали запасы и ждали аж до следующего булрана чтобы распродать все до конца, потом видя как берут видеокарты придумали LHR, чтобы доить сразу с двух рук и геймеров и майнеров и когда рост на крипте кончился, просто забили на LHR.

теперь на хайпе ИИ ракетой вверх ушли, но там рост прибыли был до 12 млрд кажется, а капитализация скакнула больше 200 ярдов и это притом, что сами ИИ стартапы все еще плохо генерируют прибыли, но ушлая Нвидиа и тут видимо как и в прошлую "золотую лихорадку" грамотно научилась продавать кирки и лопаты старателям.  
а я говорил, говорил, говорил!

помнится говорили, что эфир нвидиа прокачивала на старте. покупала, цену разгоняла, всячески стимулируя покупателей лопат. в итоге вроде как продала за овердофига денег и на этом тоже заработала, но это так, дополнительно. не исключаю, что и сейчас часть стартапов идет нвидии или с ее участием.


А почему бы нет? После халвинга останется накопать менее 1 400 000 монет. Майнеры будут зарабатывать на новых завалах мемпула, но это заканчивается, и длится не долго.
а на следующем халвинге? а через один? два? я ж не говорю, что на этом всё закончится. хотя добыто уже больше 90% если я не разучился считать. поднимая цену для профитности добычи до условных 100к, ты обеспечиваешь работой с небольшим профитом майнеров и надуваешь балансы ходлерам и спекулянтам в 9 раз большим объемом(это даже если не считать следующие халвинги и дальнейший рост необходимый для профита майнеров).
ЗЫ. на этом халвинге я всё еще жду новый атх, а на следующем уже нет.
До следующего еще 5 лет, и там видно будет. Асики сильно современнее и дешевле за год не станут, а профит майнеров порежется.
Сложность снова ставит рекорды, больше 51 Т.
Миллиона за биткоин мы по твоему не увидим?
1620  Local / Майнеры / Re: Донеси на майнера в РФ on: June 01, 2023, 02:54:13 PM
немеряно. он метра 3 в высоту и в ширину чуть меньше. медяхи там прям мама не горюй. несколько лямов ущерба насчитали. мы как-то подрезали кусочек провода на реконструкции. метров 10 длиной. в 2 захода вывозили, боялись менты тормознут, машина чуть дном не скребла. там провод правда был толщиной в руку.
Тогда в легковую машину более 400 кг надо загрузить. А медь очень дорогая, в ней можно сбережения хранить Smiley
я не помню, сколько грузили если честно. давно уже было. помню офигевшие глаза на приемке и 3 убитые болгарки, пока изоляцию снимали. веселое время было короче. и организация тоже огонь. разгильдяйство запредельное. но в тоже время как-то всё это работало, ремонтировалось, строилось.
Помню такие кабеля, пацанами выкапывали их в заброшенных местах. У кабелей несколько жил, но они в железной оплетке,  и каждый кабель тоже в оплетке и какой-то бумаге. Болгарок не было, обжигали или доставали жилы всем, что было под рукой. Горели кабеля хорошо.
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