I would also remind you that no decentralized market will be ever allow to operate by law enforcement as proven by 'Operation Onymous' last month (17 people arrested in several countries, millions seized). So the whole thing is just a trick to get investors' money without any real-life use, much like "anon" was a few months back and decentralized cloud storage seems to be now. None of that shit will ever have any real life use.
I do not support illegal activities and I think that the problem here was the illegal activities, not that it was a decentralized market. Law enforcement wouldnt particularly care if it is centralized, decentralized or distributed, if it is illegal they go after it. If it is not illegal, then why would they go after it. Privacy is something that the world needs. If you are content with the govt knowing everything you do, spend, etc. that is your choice. However there are some people that dont particularly want all their personal details available to any low level clerk (or whoever bribes them) and if the data is in a govt database it will be low level clerks that have access to it. Anyway, you are pro-govt rights, thats fine I have no problem with you having your own views on that, just let me have my own. Fair enough? James P.S. I suppose you feel that online poker is a horrible crime that SWAT teams should be sent to shutdown, since it is illegal in your USSA. Let us ignore the giant bribes that lasvegas peoples are paying the politicos to make online poker illegal, such things only happen in third world countries. Oh I "let" you have any personal views you want, what I don't "let" you is getting away with the INEVITABLE consequences of bot decentralized markets and storage since, inevitably, they will attract illegal activities and, therefore, law enforcement with disastrous effects for everyone involved, including those dealing in legal activities (loss of money and loss of stored property). I am well aware of the pitfalls of government and democracy itself, but history teaches us that even with those pitfalls it triumphs over anarchy -which is totally inviable- and dictatorship so as long as people support democracy in the US -which is where I live, but not "mine" in any way shape or form- and most of the rest of the world, the world is going to have to live according to laws and rules supported by evolving and alternate majorities. That is a FACT, especially in Law Enforcement, regardless if I like it or not. As you are fully aware of, regulation is coming imminently to crypto in both the US and Europe. Necessary and positive in the end so, yes I fully support it. And, as long as those are set by democratically elected governments, I support the enforcement of the laws against those who provide playing fields for the crooks and deranged of the world under the cover of "protecting privacy". Every individual I know of, except maybe Howard Hughes, through history, has been more than willing to give up any trace of privacy in exchange for fame and fortune, so, in the end, it is all fake and a monumental lie... But those are higher philosophical matters not necessarily appropriate for discussion here. What should be discussed, with facts at hands -as I have tried- are both the inevitability of illegal activities in any decentralized environment and the corresponding Law Enforcement action that will follow, since they will have dire effects in the quality of people's investments. What is your feeling about the Internet? It enables all sorts of crimes, shouldnt it be shutdown? What about the telephone? What about automobiles? What about restaurants? I think this tendency to criminalize anything that criminals use is quite a bit of overreaction. Why not just go after criminals? Presumably you believe in the right to free speech? Arguably most things on the internet is similar to free speech, but for criminal activity at some point it morphs into a physical thing. [some exceptions, but you understand what I say] So, why not criminalize the physical instantiation of the crime, not the technology that is shared by the criminals and the innocents. Anyway, I can see we are very far apart on this, so I will stop with this. No sense in taking this thread further offtopic. Back to my original posting here, it sounds like the bitmarkets is already live? So they are first to the market before the BAY using the same/similar tech. James |
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I would also remind you that no decentralized market will be ever allow to operate by law enforcement as proven by 'Operation Onymous' last month (17 people arrested in several countries, millions seized). So the whole thing is just a trick to get investors' money without any real-life use, much like "anon" was a few months back and decentralized cloud storage seems to be now. None of that shit will ever have any real life use.
I do not support illegal activities and I think that the problem here was the illegal activities, not that it was a decentralized market. Law enforcement wouldnt particularly care if it is centralized, decentralized or distributed, if it is illegal they go after it. If it is not illegal, then why would they go after it. Privacy is something that the world needs. If you are content with the govt knowing everything you do, spend, etc. that is your choice. However there are some people that dont particularly want all their personal details available to any low level clerk (or whoever bribes them) and if the data is in a govt database it will be low level clerks that have access to it. Anyway, you are pro-govt rights, thats fine I have no problem with you having your own views on that, just let me have my own. Fair enough? James P.S. I suppose you feel that online poker is a horrible crime that SWAT teams should be sent to shutdown, since it is illegal in your USSA. Let us ignore the giant bribes that lasvegas peoples are paying the politicos to make online poker illegal, such things only happen in third world countries. |
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It is EXACTLY the same (requires double deposit--from the buyer and the seller, just like BAY). Only "difference" seems to be the use of TOR as opposed to the encryption provided by BAY which is not only vulnerable to hacking but already in the hands of the Bobsurplus hackers --the Taiwanese connection. And both are bound to fail miserably because no seller is going to put an amount similar to the price of whatever goods or services are being sold and no buyer is going to deposit DOUBLE the amount of the price of those goods and services. It is quite absurd in BOTH cases and none will survive. But BAY is not designed to survive at all, it is designed to scam money from stupid investors. And on that racket, it has succeeded already... albeit at a much lower level than intended. On a separate matyter since we have you here, the plans for Vericoin on the SuperNET still include decentralized cloud storage? maybe another ad-hoc decentralized market? I'm sure you have heard of STORJ, since Supernet's OPAL will rent their HDD... it is obvious that there's duplication there... "cloud storage" is quite a large field. also storj is actually storage agnostic and their GUI will have built in support for various different storage providers. OPAL using storj and VRC using SuperNET DHT storage are different destination networks. It seems that the decentralized cloud storage market is fragmenting, before it even really gets started. There are also several other players in this space. Maybe there is a need to unify them into a single network? Not sure of all the details yet, I am debugging the low level functionality of SuperNET now. The thing to realize is that "cloud storage" is quite a large space and that many different solutions can and will coexist. I doubt anybody believes that any single vendor will get 90%+ marketshare. James P.S. On the decentralized markets, again the fragmentation and the need to create a combined single market to the users, even though there are multiple actual markets. This is the foundational idea of SuperNET to create a superset out of all the different fragments and thus creating greater value for all. |
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Why SuperNET is not listed @trex??
Good point. Who has a contact there? bittrex doesnt like crypto 2.0 thats why they dont list them They listed BLOCK... BLOCK is a bitcoin compatible RPC, plugs right in to existing exchange software to support SuperNET/UNITY they would need to support NXT assets James |
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It differs from Bitmarkt in the same way it differs from OpenBazaar Q: How does BitBay differ from OpenBazaar? How is OpenBazaar “pseudo centralized”?
A: David is of the opinion that uTorrent may be correlated to other things in order to reveal the ip addresses of the parties involved in a contract. Its unclear whether or not OpenBazaar will truly be secure. Tor itself has a known security vulnerability on exit nodes.
Open Bazaar uses arbiters which are horribly inefficient and dangerous. As an example, eBay arbiters are never able to tell who is telling the truth when someone gets scammed. Also, a botnet could easily generate 100’s of arbiter accounts and collude with themselves, stealing escrows. So OpenBazaar’s system is much more vulnerable than eBay. I hope they will one day add double escrow as an option.
BitBay uses decentralized escrow, there are no arbiter judges or human error involved. Just two parties with a completely unbreakable agreement. It is the most perfect form of escrow in existence. I dont understand. are you saying bitmarkets is the same as openbazaar? If so, have you even read the article where it says that bitmarkets is different from openbazaar due to its usage of bitmessage and double deposit escrow? What else uses bitmessage and double deposit escrow? BAY or OpenBazaar? I have no idea if the BAY and bitmarket is just similar at the high level or identical, that is why I asked. James |
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Hey guys, does anyone know how long does a btcd deposit on mgw take to show up? I am waiting now 9 or 10 hours, is this normal?
I am testing DB MGW today, I hope to have it all caught up |
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Any news about super traders?  Unfortunately this bear market is really tough for crypto trading. Just not having lost anything is an achievement I dont have the exact totals, but I would be surprised if the net gain is more than 50 to 100 BTC, it is ~1%. James |
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https://nxtforum.org/index.php?topic=6894Yes, another dividend. I know, I know, too many assets, but what can I do? over 200 people and so many projects. Timing uncertain, but will most likely be in December. James
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[Dividend Announcement] Saturday at 1400 GMT to SuperNET and NXTventure assetholders, followed by a passthrough of the InstantDEX portion of the NXTventure dividends. https://nxtforum.org/nxtventures/reserved-6826FinHive has made an agreement with SkyNET to become a wholly owned subsidiary of SkyNET http://finhive.com/roadmap.html75000 SkyNET will go to SuperNET assetholders and 75000 to NXTventure assetholders. Since InstantDEX owns around 40% of NXTventure, it will end up with about 30,000 of the 75000 sent to NXTventure holders. Since InstantDEX is in no need of any additional capital, it has been decided to dividend out these SkyNET to InstantDEX holders. Exact timing is uncertain. bter says they will be ready for this one. I have no idea what cutoff times will be used, so while the dividend will go out around 1400 GMT on Saturday, you might need to have ownership of it significantly prior to this time. Basically, until the dividends are received, it is not received. As soon as they are received, then they have been sent. James
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I just pushed a version that has the DB MGW integrated into SuperNET API. Almost everything works, but you need to generate a DB first. Once you do, things are pretty fast, eg. 5 minutes first scan and then <1 minute and that is to find all pending deposits and withdraws. Got stuck on getting multisig deposit addresses generated, in realtime! Finally got that working and now any SuperNET node will be able to remotely access the designated MGW servers and generate a multisig deposit address, about 30 seconds to 1 minute the first time, after that, less than 1 second I also made it so that just by changing the JSON, you can specify a different set of MGW servers, eg. coins, node addresses. So, any enterprising trio can setup MGW. You will need to fiddle with the SuperNET.conf and create the "magic" JSON like: curl -k --data-binary '{"jsonrpc": "1.0", "id":"curltest", "method": "SuperNET", "params": ["{\"requestType\":\"genmultisig\",\"destip\":\"209.126.70.159\",\"refcontact\":\"NXT-QJUP-SB6U-CQCT-852GL\",\"coin\":\"BTCD\",\"asset\":\"11060861818140490423\",\"contacts\":[\"10694781281555936856\",\"8894667849638377372\",\"13434315136155299987\"],\"M\":\"2\",\"N\":\"3\"}"] }' -H 'content-type: text/plain;' https://127.0.0.1:7777/The above curl command directly contacts one of the MGW servers and generates a BTCD MGW deposit address for NXT-QJUP-SB6U-CQCT-852GL Just by changing that part of the JSON, you can get the deposit address for another acct, but only if the servers are running. Once generated, your node saves it to the blockchain and it is there for future use, but you can always generate it again. The following command will scan (everything) and display what needs to be done: curl -k --data-binary '{"jsonrpc": "1.0", "id":"curltest", "method": "SuperNET", "params": ["{\"requestType\":\"MGWdeposits\",\"specialNXT\":\"7117166754336896747\",\"rescan\":\"1\",\"coin\":\"BTCD\",\"asset\":\"11060861818140490423\",\"NXT0\":\"423766016895692955\",\"NXT1\":\"12240549928875772593\",\"NXT2\":\"8279528579993996036\",\"exclude0\":\"7581814105672729429\",\"exclude1\":\"13434315136155299987\"}"] }' -H 'content-type: text/plain;' https://127.0.0.1:7777/so, it will find pending deposits, pending withdraws and if you set "actionflag" to 1, it will do the deposit asset transfers it found, if action flag is -1, it will process the withdraws it found, though this part is not quite finished yet. I get all the way to generating the signed rawtxbytes, but since it is bigger than fits into UDP the servers cant easily compare. I am on the fence as to whether to just use the old MGW code for this or to come up with some new way to do it that also allows anybody to easily manage multisig payments using the SuperNET API. I am leaning toward the latter, though it will take a few days extra. I just hate having to put in old code into a new framework and if multisig was easy to use, I think a lot of creative solutions will be built with it. Notice my genmultisig it totally generic and it abstracts out all the details of multisig, so even non-bitcoin multisig will fit right in and just by changing the "coin" field the same JSON will make mulsig address. The 3 signer limit for bitcoin network is also not inherent in the SuperNET multisig. James |
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but at the cost of 45% of skynet??? Pretty sure SkyNet was created for the sole purpose of acquiring this. It was just lucky coincidence of timing James |
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Is the chart on: https://nxtforum.org/index.php?topic=4139.msg137513#msg137513literal? If so, how did you generate enough training data for a 2-5-1 NN that will have the desired output characteristics? If not, and the number of hidden layers increases as you get more main nodes, what NN do you use? especially if there arent any that are precomputed? I am assuming you are using the neural network to make routing decisions to find the fastest path. This is a cool idea, but I am not sure a 2-5-1 NN is anywhere near the capacity to handle all the real world scenarios. James |
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About to sell 1000 BTCD on Bittrex. Buying some more SuperNET.
YOLO
If I had 3,500 BTCD I sure as hell wouldn't be selling it all at once like this. Hmmm yeah, maybe I should slow down and see if anyone wants to trade OTC instead. WTT: 1000 BTCD for 530 UNITY I posted your offer in slack I will act as escrow for the swap, if desired |
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Everyone is cheers for good work Supernet is released, you are recognized overall value of supernet. You have to jl777 to complete all the initiative had said it would be necessary two years of time. The increases from now of a few elite DEV after release Will the development rate go up? However, really great job  If we keep getting new devs, then SuperNET will always have the next release. There are quite a few projects going on now, so the rate of development is going up, but so is the scope of the project, so probably still looking at the original timeframe for a solid fully working initial release, but it could very well have some unexpected addons. An automated test framework by l8orre is making good progress and that will find the low level bugs that are needed to be fixed. Kristov Atlas is reviewing the design. zahlen is reviewing the math and algo for weaknesses and improvements to be made. dozens of others are contributing and we have over 200 in the slack now. You can even see a log of all the activity from the URL in my sig: http://104.236.15.119:8086/logs/channelsNot very fancy, just a raw log of slack (thanks to OPAL's bassguitarman!) We still have a debug cycle to go through and the GUI needs to be finished, but so many things are happening in parallel, I dont know the exact status of everything. I am not having the time, nor inclination, to be micromanaging all the various projects. I just push forward on my small part everyday. Since most all of what I do has never been done before, I cant exactly name a date and make it happen by then, but I can work many hours a day to minimize the time to completion. James |
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I just hope BTER will honor all of the different dividends, otherwise it's better to whitdraw UNITY to your wallet right now. We are still waiting for the Pangea dividends from BTER.
I heard back last night, they are working on it |
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No need to sell the UNITY
Since you are new to all this, just put some small amounts into different things. The SuperNET/UNITY is quite boring as far as crypto standards go. All during the bear market it was +/-15% or so, the downs will be less and the ups, well I think it will be more like a turtle, but you never know on the upside.
OPAL can 10x again and while SuperNET can also, it would be much more difficult for a SuperNET 10x than an OPAL 10x. The other assets are all very very different, so each one needs to be understood and some are trading on multiple markets, there could be cross market arbitrage. It is really no simple answer
James
Let me get this straight: since superNET is including all the assets for a % (ie 10%btcd 10%opal 5%pahngea, etc), you get all dividends by holding UNITY. Is there a way to change these % from the superNET wallet, for example, 15%btcd 5%opal 20% pangea 0%anotherasset, etc? Thank you for your time. the div you get paid on unity is not the same btcd holders for example seem to get 50% of btcd/nxt trading fee's on mgw paid out as div on bter in nxt? BTCD stakers get 5% of SuperNET revenues NXT core deves get 5% of SuperNET revenues 20% of SuperNET revenues are allocated for the core coin communities allocated by the usage of each coin within SuperNET 50% of SuperNET revenues go to SuperNET/UNITY asset holders 10% of revenues go toward expenses 10% TBD I am working on a way to easily convert between all the SuperNET core coins, so you could use that to change your different balances, but that is for next year James |
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Yes, it would always be great to have some nodes running to test network scalability and SuperNET stability. PM me with the details Perfect! Will PM you right away! =) - Jyri things are still experimental, so no guarantees about uptime and occasional resource hoggage I'm fine with that! =) I've actually had a very recent version of BTCD running on the seed nodes since December the 1st, and it's been working without any problems. Have you made any modifications to the code since? I assume yes..? Where should I put the SuperNET.conf file? To the .BitcoinDark folder? - Jyri BitcoinDarkd looks for SuperNET in its current location and SuperNET looks for SuperNET.conf in its current location |
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