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Again, totally unprofessional, and no true business would make such accusations. Do yourself a favor, hire a real PR firm and either run everything thru them or at least bounce it off them first. If you are going to try to be the world leader in digital currency then you should probably try to act like it. Firstly, I am not a SolidCoin business, I haven't had enough time yet to start some. I'm just out there promoting a better currency, along with hundreds of others. I don't own "SolidCoin", but I own some SolidCoins, if that makes sense.  And I'm certainly not going to be the biggest winner if the currency goes beyond Bitcoin parity. Like I said the money thing isn't an issue to me, perhaps it is for others and if they can become wealthy off SolidCoin then I'm glad I can help. I also don't want to be known as the "Leader" of SolidCoin, I feel like I'm just doing my part for a good cause. Others are also doing what they can because they want to live in a world where a currency like SolidCoin is commonly used and allows them economic freedom. Whether or not you are the leader of SolidCoin (and if you are not, then who is?), somebody in charge wrote and posted the article you linked on the official SolidCoin site. It speaks of very poor and unprofessional judgement. All SC bounties have run through you, as have all the announcements. You are the de facto spokesperson for the project, and if you don't want that, then perhaps somebody else over there should step up and make that announcement. Unless, of course, it is an FBI project designed to disrupt Bitcoin...  Why would the FBI disrupt Bitcoin with a BETTER version? That makes no sense what so ever. Now FBI money going towards obvious trolling is something a bit more realistic... |
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Maria honestly someone like YOU should not be making posts like THIS...
Honestly it makes us look bad.
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I was referring to the pedo shit. If you had some reading comprehension you could have inferred that from the Pattaya reference .
That crap started on something awful within hours of the announcement. Now it has oozed over here.
In regards to the mortgage crap ,I'm sure if Bruce hired LPS or signed his shit "Linda Green" he would have been just fine.
Every Registry of Deed in the nation is overflowing with fraud. Are you pulling your money out of the bank even though they stole several trillion? No your not.
Enough with the false indignation about mortgage fraud. You really don't give a shit and neither does anyone else that is bitching.
Google my nick. I do give a shit about it and have been participating actively in taking down the enterprise for over 3 years. BEFORE THE BUBBLE BURST
WTF have you been doing other than looking for people to flame.
So Bruce gets to be a scammer, and better yet a scammer accepted by the community, just because oter people scam as well? It's not the fact that the Bitcoin community disagrees with you, it's the way you guys have conducted yourselves in portraying your opinions, by inflicting damage on anyone who has an opposing view. You need a machete to cut through the irony in this post... Right because you guys think you are doing a great "service" for the greater good of humanity, when in reality you just continue to push along the depressive status quo. You guys are all here to "ground us" back to reality, because somehow we don't deserve to be happy within our own community? There is absolutely no for excuse for abuse, and anyone who has been watching this has seen the abusive practices inflicted on the majority of the community. I am not defending anyone or singling out anyone, I am just looking at the entire situation as a whole, and have seen that you guys are nothing more than bunch of sour grapes who take no enjoyment out of life other than the damage that you cause others. Oh what you folks wouldn't do for the "lulz"... To be honest, if you think getting a little dose of reality every once in awhile is 'abuse' and not a useful thing for keeping yourself from chasing worthless pipe dreams, you are setting yourself up for a lot of failure and disapointment later in life. Right because you folks have been so reasonable with your "little" doses of reality. LOL Shooting down awful ideas and exposing scammers for you guys may not be 'little' doses, but they are helpful. When you shoot down ideas down, and you don't replace them with better ones, then what are you in the end my friend? An obstructionist, and not the problem solver you so eagerly claim to be. Do I think Bitcoin is the ultimate solution? No one knows that yet, NOT EVEN YOU. There has never been a "deflationary" currency of this magnitude before, so I don't even feel right comparing it to gold anymore. Now if you don't respect the economic ideology behind Bitcoin, you should at-least respect the tech behind it. The technology is very powerful, intuitive, and should not be disregarded as some "high school project" like so many in SA do on a constant basis. If it was as powerful and intuitive as you say I'd imagine it would have some real-world use or application after all these years besides being a microeconomy for money launderers, scammers, and people looking to buy VPNs and Slim Jims The "real world" just found out about it. Hence the fact why you're here... |
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Has anyone here noticed Ruxum now allows trades SC for USD vice versa? Although they are now in private beta requiring invite codes to register. Anyone has IC's? I'm interested in trying out their site. This may also give SC +edge over BTC. They opened @ 0.105 $ per SC. Not bad! I didn't see that. Holy molly not bad at all !  |
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So you are a pacifist?
And all the conflicts you named are INTERNATIONALLY ran conflicts. Gitmo is a whole different issue, and because of legal boundaries set in place, all that is keeping him from actually closing it down. Atleast were not torturing people there like we did when bush was in power.
Pacificism has nothing to do with this. Libya never attacked the USA. So you think war mongering is OK because this time France is on your side? Last I checked resolution 1973 authorized protection of civilians, not regime change and a resource grab. That's even ignoring that it was based on a faulty premise to begin with. Do you really think Qaddafi would have brought about as much destruction and death by squashing protests as a full blown War has done? Those "legal boundaries" didn't stop him from engaging in an undeclared war. I missed your excuse on the butchering of Pakistani and Yemeni civilians. Don't forget those dictatorships as well.Is there anything the messiah will do that will cause you to forsake him or is he the way, the truth and the life as far as you are concerned? The "regime change" is being fueled by the Libyan people . I can't account for the poor innocent civilians lost during battles. I hate war, and I am not an advocate for it in any way. However, you are being pretty unreasonable with your assessments, and not giving back any valid solutions. What is it that you want? For America and the rest of the world to stand by while Gaddafi slaughters his own people? Did you also want the President to ignore all professional opinions when it came down to withdrawals in Iraq and Afghanistan? If we would have pulled out of Iraq any faster than we did, it would have been a disaster, and you would be sitting here today attacking the President for that same scenario... Instead we did the adult thing and made sure security was stable before we pulled out any considerable amount of forces. We are doing the same in Afghanistan as well.. Your use of the term "messiah" shows just how fucked up and twisted your ideology is. Do you not remember HOW MUCH WORSE things were just 2 and a half years ago? Jesus are people really that nostalgic? |
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... ruining the reputation of the currency.
if you were really concerned by the reputation of the currency, you would try to improve it ; instead you are trying to destroy it. IMO, what might ruin the reputation of bitcoin is it being associated to solidcoin... some people might lose a lot of money if they invest in solidcoin, and this will be associated to bitcoin. He did, and he got shot down. The Devs don't want to change anything that screws with the "fundamentals", no matter how flawed they may be. I don't have problem with that, and I personally have my money invested in BOTH currencies. I respect both of them equally, but I see a flaw as a flaw. I love Bitcoin, and I don't think I have to prove that to anyone here... However, I am not foolish, and I know what it takes to make a project succeed. Bitcoin has stagnated after all the press it got. And I think it's because it brought in a wave of new developers who are now taking a look at the client and saying WTF? New developers = more arguments against the final product = stagnation= new competing currency's. This was expected... |
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Actually no, whilst the new developer section hasn't been put online yet we will be giving businesses all the tools they need to support SolidCoin. We will be dealing with all the "Financial" matters for them and the "Security" matters for them. This way their own code doesn't have to implement the same thing over and over again which is what we are seeing with Bitcoin. And as we know people have differing understandings of the Bitcoin system and also programming in general.
This way we won't get a situation where mybitcoin.com is accepting transactions with 0 confirmations because they are unaware of the security problems. Whilst it won't completely eliminate all issues it will certainly reduce them significantly. The same goes with wallet handling which is pretty much not told how a business should handle and protect it (bitomat).
This sounds reasonable actually … The MyBitcoin disaster was even predicted by theymos because they accepted 1 confirmation (not 0 confirmation) coins. Noone seemed to actually care enough about clearly warning people or the MyBitcoin admin though. The beauty of the free market, where major failures are inevitable because the market can only react. You have to SECURE the "free market" so that everyone has the same shot. |
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Remember this no matter where, SC goes, it will never stop being a BITCOIN. Just like no matter what Linux you are talking about (ubuntu, redhat, debian), they are all still Linux in the end...
This statement is very close to a scam... I want to make it clear, especially for newcomers who might be mislead by the quoted statement, that SolidCoin is a different currency, that it is in no way supported by Bitcoin, and that when you buy 100 Solidcoins, you do not own 100 bitcoins. There is no compatibility between them, as suggested by the poster. The promoters of SC are trying to make you believe that you can have "the same thing" for 1/100 of the price. Don't be naive. Of course, what I just wrote is completely obvious for many people. However, this forum is attracting many non-technical users, who are completely new to this, and some of these people might be an easy target for scams and manipulation. This is why I believe is is necessary to write this, and to warn people against dangerous investments. Listen, people shouldn't be investing in ANY of these currency's if they are scared of loosing ANY money at all. That is the cold hard truth Thomas. I will be the first one to tell this to ANYONE, even a potential investor sitting right in front of me. Every single dime can be lost with Bitcoin, Solidcoin or any other currency that may come out in the future. Now with that being said... Solidcoin IS Bitcoin, except upgraded, and re-branded. Am I being clear enough for everyone? |
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I was referring to the pedo shit. If you had some reading comprehension you could have inferred that from the Pattaya reference .
That crap started on something awful within hours of the announcement. Now it has oozed over here.
In regards to the mortgage crap ,I'm sure if Bruce hired LPS or signed his shit "Linda Green" he would have been just fine.
Every Registry of Deed in the nation is overflowing with fraud. Are you pulling your money out of the bank even though they stole several trillion? No your not.
Enough with the false indignation about mortgage fraud. You really don't give a shit and neither does anyone else that is bitching.
Google my nick. I do give a shit about it and have been participating actively in taking down the enterprise for over 3 years. BEFORE THE BUBBLE BURST
WTF have you been doing other than looking for people to flame.
So Bruce gets to be a scammer, and better yet a scammer accepted by the community, just because oter people scam as well? It's not the fact that the Bitcoin community disagrees with you, it's the way you guys have conducted yourselves in portraying your opinions, by inflicting damage on anyone who has an opposing view. You need a machete to cut through the irony in this post... Right because you guys think you are doing a great "service" for the greater good of humanity, when in reality you just continue to push along the depressive status quo. You guys are all here to "ground us" back to reality, because somehow we don't deserve to be happy within our own community? There is absolutely no for excuse for abuse, and anyone who has been watching this has seen the abusive practices inflicted on the majority of the community. I am not defending anyone or singling out anyone, I am just looking at the entire situation as a whole, and have seen that you guys are nothing more than bunch of sour grapes who take no enjoyment out of life other than the damage that you cause others. Oh what you folks wouldn't do for the "lulz"... To be honest, if you think getting a little dose of reality every once in awhile is 'abuse' and not a useful thing for keeping yourself from chasing worthless pipe dreams, you are setting yourself up for a lot of failure and disapointment later in life. Right because you folks have been so reasonable with your "little" doses of reality. LOL Shooting down awful ideas and exposing scammers for you guys may not be 'little' doses, but they are helpful. When you shoot down ideas down, and you don't replace them with better ones, then what are you in the end my friend? An obstructionist, and not the problem solver you so eagerly claim to be. Do I think Bitcoin is the ultimate solution? No one knows that yet, NOT EVEN YOU. There has never been a "deflationary" currency of this magnitude before, so I don't even feel right comparing it to gold anymore. Now if you don't respect the economic ideology behind Bitcoin, you should at-least respect the tech behind it. The technology is very powerful, intuitive, and should not be disregarded as some "high school project" like so many in SA do on a constant basis. |
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This thread had some good information and some crap too. Normal. Reading SolidCoin responses to some of the post has been informative, entertaining and yes, sometimes even close to embarrassing. Most of it was still good and looks like the guy believes in what he is doing. Now he's post are stating to sound like cries for help by a hysterical 12 years old, who has a nervous brake down and has gone to a self destruct mode. SolidCoin dude, take a chill pill and cool down. This is not how computer scientists, with decades long experience, act in public. To be fair I don't think they go out much in public anyways X) ! |
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Solidcoin IS better than Bitcoin no question about it.
Bitcoin has community momentum and developers who understand the protocol and the issues. SC dev (is there even more than 1?) put in BETA code from bitcoin and then uses that as if to say it's ahead of bitcoin? Pathetic. Trust in the open source development team and other volunteers who eyeball the code is a critical part of why bitcoin is vastly more sound than SC. Solidcoin is 'solid' like the Democratic Republic of North Korea is 'democratic' - and if the slimy claims on the solidcoin site didn't clue you in to that, you should be embarrassed. Read my post I edited. The truth is undeniable at this point... I love Bitcoin with all my heart, but it has fundamental problems that NEED to be fixed. This entire notion that beta software should NOT BE CHANGED, is cult like, and totally opposite to how software development should be conducted. One way to sustain Bitcoins viability is for Bitcoin to adopt a fast re-adjustment algorithm that isn't effected by huge network swings. Regardless, I see Bitcoin going very much the same way Linux did. Multiple versions of the same project will complement each other, and in the end we will all come out with a high grade product. Remember this no matter where, SC goes it will never stop being a BITCOIN. Just like no matter what Linux you are talking about (ubuntu, redhat, debian), they are all still Linux in the end... |
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Hahaha. If I had any doubt about the viability of SolidCoins, now they are all gone. SolidCoin is going to collapse like the rest of copies.
Solidcoin IS better than Bitcoin no question about it. However, the thing that we simply can't get away from is the fact that Solidcoin IS Bitcoin , and would not exist today if it weren't for Bitcoin. Those are simple facts. EDIT: Let me just save myself some time in responding to people asking me "why is it better". There are a bunch of minor improvements I could cite, but I won't waist anyone's time. Bitcoin is only safe as long as all the miners agree to keep on mining... This means that if there is a collapse in price (can happen at any time), and miners drop off in masses (since profit is gone), it will take weeks for the difficulty to re-target to a lower level. Now your question is how does this affect me? Well if there is a massive price drop, followed by a massive network drop, that would leave a much smaller amount of people mining an impossible difficulty. Then what happens after that? Transactions stop going through, and everyone's coins become literally worthless till the next difficulty drop. Coinhunter fixed this with his all new algorithm which doesn't care whether or not people agree to mine. Even if there's a 40% drop in network (already happened check graphs below), the difficulty will follow almost instantly, allowing transactions to continue to go through, and surviving any type of "network halt". A network halt is a very big possibility in the Bitcoin network, especially if the price keeps dropping. Many developers (not only coinhunter) suggested to the main developers of the Bitcoin client to change this. They have refused... Go see his new algorithm in action here http://solidcoin.kicks-ass.org/graphs/graphs.html |
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Well apparently Ruxum started exchanging USD for SC 4 days ago, color me impressed, 200 coins already exchanged  The rest of the list supports my original claim. You need to be able to sell and buy solidcoins with dollars, and have a reference price with major world wide currencies. Selling and buying chicken eggs using pork bellies as currency is not a sign of a mature ware. The currency is only a few weeks old, yet it has a wall-street grade exchange adopting it no questions asked ? Anyone else see a connection here ? http://techcrunch.com/2011/07/18/ruxum-wall-street-level-security-comes-to-bitcoin-with-new-exchange/ |
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Such bullshit Bitcoin has not yet matured or reached seeding maturity, calling the developers out for not wanting to "change" something which may not be evaluated for "changes" yet, is a lame attack. The FBI has not been linked to trouble within the Bitcoin environment, this is just wild imaginations, and even if they wanted to do anything, they would need to play by the peer rules to remain undetected. Solidcoin brags about faster transactions, less coins generation, more coins per block and faster retagets as being a completely good thing while still growing. Also they blame the 11% bitcoin network power drop on people switching over, instead of reduced mining activity due to low profitability on the bitcoin chain, and as far as I know... SOLIDCOINS HAS NO EXCHANGE YET! It is a completely closed virtual currency at the moment.Wrong, https://x.ruxum.com/https://scexchange.bitparking.com/https://moonco.in/exchange/solidcoin https://btc-e.com/ |
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Warmonger? Please...
He has scaled down the war in Iraq to an almost non-existent state. And now we are slowly drawing out of Afghanstan.
Obama already won the war on terror. He did this by putting a bullet in Bin-Ladens dome.
Oh so you think those NATO warplanes are handing out candy in Libya? The drones in Yemen and Pakistan are probably giving away free health care as well. Not to mention the numerous dictatorships Strategic allies still on the dole from the pentagon. The depths you'll sink to to make excuses for Warbama are astounding. If you knew anything about foreign policy you would know that what's going on in Libya now, has nothing to do with the war on terror. That has nothing to do with what I said. Obama is a war monger. He is bombing Libya, Pakistan, Yemen, oh and Gitmo is still open. So you are a pacifist? And all the conflicts you named are INTERNATIONALLY ran conflicts. Gitmo is a whole different issue, and because of legal boundaries set in place, all that is keeping him from actually closing it down. Atleast were not torturing people there like we did when bush was in power. |
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Sounded like an infomercial. Interesting facts pointed out. 11% of the bitcoin hashing power went to the solidcoin network for what like 24 hours? 48 hours at most? The mt. gox hack, mybitcoin.com, and other catastrophies surrounding bitcoin are not in fact problems with bitcoin itself. There are subtle references to facts that are skewed in favoring solidcoin to make solidcoin look better. Yes the difficulty algorithm was originally part of solidcoin's source, but as we move forward in an open-source world there are many block chains that could come along and add other features including ones that solidcoin introduced and dilute the market share altogether. Solidcoin thus far is a success, but how long has it been...what 2 weeks at most? Give it another 2 months and let's see where things stand. As you indicated it sure sounds like it could be the end of solidcoin...we'll see. Your claim that SC is over because of 1 heavy-handed post is so far off... Did you even read what I wrote? I never claimed the post was going to kill SC it was ThomasV who wrote it. I just said "we'll see". LOL I like these heavy handed posts. They bring us publicity, but Coinhunter is going to have to start articulating why his coin is safer/faster/better than Bitcoin. It can't just be "it's better cause it is". 90% of the people on here can't understand the coding, so it would be nice if he could go over everything, and break it down step by step. |
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To those tossing around the perjorative, I ask;
What do you think the word "homophobic" actually means?
To resist immorality and inappropriate behaviour? To be disgusted by people who are lewd in public?
The word describes someone with an irrational fear of homosexuals.
Who is being irrational here? Who here is actually afraid of homosexuals?
The haters causing dissent are the stupid homosexuals who support each other no matter what. The haters are the ones calling names, pulling dirty tricks and rationalising criminal behaviour.
We live in a civilization with an expectation of certain moral values. To lie, steal, pimp children (who are really adults) and to con desperate homeowners out of their last money is NOT acceptable. To define yourself in public by your chosen use of your private parts is NOT acceptable.
Lewd and criminal behaviour is still not acceptable when the perpetrator is handicapped by birth defect, maimed in accident, poison damaged of endocrine system or any other misfortune.
Being homosexual does not excuse anyone to abuse people by stealing from them, failing to pay what is owed to them or carnally exploiting them because they are poor.
Dude give it a rest already. |
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Sounded like an infomercial. Interesting facts pointed out. 11% of the bitcoin hashing power went to the solidcoin network for what like 24 hours? 48 hours at most? The mt. gox hack, mybitcoin.com, and other catastrophies surrounding bitcoin are not in fact problems with bitcoin itself. There are subtle references to facts that are skewed in favoring solidcoin to make solidcoin look better. Yes the difficulty algorithm was originally part of solidcoin's source, but as we move forward in an open-source world there are many block chains that could come along and add other features including ones that solidcoin introduced and dilute the market share altogether. Solidcoin thus far is a success, but how long has it been...what 2 weeks at most? Give it another 2 months and let's see where things stand. As you indicated it sure sounds like it could be the end of solidcoin...we'll see. Your claim that SC is over because of 1 heavy-handed post is so far off... |
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Warmonger? Please...
He has scaled down the war in Iraq to an almost non-existent state. And now we are slowly drawing out of Afghanstan.
Obama already won the war on terror. He did this by putting a bullet in Bin-Ladens dome.
Oh so you think those NATO warplanes are handing out candy in Libya? The drones in Yemen and Pakistan are probably giving away free health care as well. Not to mention the numerous dictatorships Strategic allies still on the dole from the pentagon. The depths you'll sink to to make excuses for Warbama are astounding. If you knew anything about foreign policy you would know that what's going on in Libya now, has nothing to do with the war on terror. |
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