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1601  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][NOTE]DNotes - DCEBrief Digital Currency Executive Brief Has Launched! on: September 11, 2015, 02:17:45 AM

Has anyone noticed that we are off the voting list on Cryptsy?  Does that mean what I think it does??  Smiley Smiley

Awaiting eagerly to see.

is it really HAPPENING?!!!???!???!?



I think so, SEABOND.

then, this should be appropriate.



Let's wait just a little longer. I am sure we have a lot of people waiting anxiously. The exchange market place is becoming very competitive. DNotes is very well positioned to the extend that a year from now it will be listed everywhere.
1602  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][NOTE]DNotes - DCEBrief Digital Currency Executive Brief Has Launched! on: September 11, 2015, 12:51:34 AM

Has anyone noticed that we are off the voting list on Cryptsy?  Does that mean what I think it does??  Smiley Smiley

Awaiting eagerly to see.

is it really HAPPENING?!!!???!???!?



I think so, SEABOND.
1603  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][NOTE]DNotes - DCEBrief Digital Currency Executive Brief Has Launched! on: September 10, 2015, 04:09:41 AM

Continuing fallout of the New York BitLicense:


LZF LAUNCHES FIRST U.S.-BASED EXCHANGE TO OPERATE LEGALLY IN 49 STATES TODAY

"LZF does not serve New York due to the state’s BitLicense requirement."

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/lzf-launches-first-u-s-based-exchange-operate-legally-49-states-today/

Nice find, Chase. LZF was formerly known as PScoin. They are doing a few things differently. I am trying to connect with them.

I hope that other states have learned "what not to do" as result of the fallout New York BitLicense has created.

The exchange market is becoming increasingly more competitive and I am quite certain that many of them that are paying the price to be in compliance are not operating profitably.
1604  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][NOTE]DNotes - DCEBrief Digital Currency Executive Brief Has Launched! on: September 09, 2015, 08:24:03 PM
A couple updates on DCEBrief:

Added a few new pages - Policies, About, Meet the Team, etc... Links are at the bottom of the page.


Working on some DCEBrief promotions.

-Submitted to news aggregates (Google, Bing, Yahoo, News360).
-Created social media accounts (Twitter, Facebook).
     https://twitter.com/DCEBrief
     https://www.facebook.com/DCEBrief (Still working on facebook page)
-Working on creating a site widget that one could add to their site to display DCEBrief content
-Thinking about adding a policy that will allow people to use our content with proper attribution.

What else can we do to promote the site?



Excellent work! The site looks fantastic to say the least. I like the new page additions.

As for ideas can we setup a system for contributors to earn DNotes or articles that are submitted can be "Liked" and once they have like 50 likes then that author earns 50 DNotes???

Feedback on articles, posts on CryptoMoms, Facebook, and Twitter in relation to DCEBrief receive DNotes?

I like your idea of a Widget. Maybe a ticker like Widget that runs the articles across the bottom of your screen like the Coin Telegraph one at the top of CMC?

Just a few ideas.



Certainly, we are really excited about DCEBrief. It has great potential to reach out to many different market segments based on specific targeting. I plan to write a series of articles about small business and employee benefits among others. We are very strategic in everything we do. Once we are solidly positioned that will be the right time to aggressively promote what we have in place. I envision that 2016 will be a great year for our long term investors. Rewarding contributors is a great idea. We like Joe to  decide the best ways to implement that.
1605  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][NOTE]DNotes - DCEBrief Digital Currency Executive Brief Has Launched! on: September 09, 2015, 02:57:38 AM

Great article and very clever title.

DCEBrief launch has gone very well with excellent press coverage. We are expecting even more to come.
1606  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][NOTE]DNotes - DCEBrief Digital Currency Executive Brief Has Launched! on: September 08, 2015, 11:56:16 AM

Answer: DNotes (hands down!) Wink


Which Cryptocurrency Should You Invest In?

After the rise of bitcoin a few years back, a number of other cryptocurrency versions have popped up, each promising to have better or more features than the rest. These days you have bitcoin, litecoin, darkcoin, dogecoin, and many others to choose from. Which one should you invest in?

Trading or investing in cryptocurrency markets has been appealing mostly for the high potential return-on-investment due to the inherent volatility. Of course this also comes with higher risks, which is why it’s important to figure out which market is best to invest in.

Cryptocurrency Factors
One of the biggest factors involved in choosing which cryptocurrency to invest in is its stability. It has been relatively easy to create various versions of altcoins these days, although some haven’t lasted much long due to a small market or weaknesses in the development process itself. Take note that prominent cryptocurrencies such as bitcoin and litecoin have been created by a dedicated and active team of developers mostly through SHA-256 and Scrypt.

Keep in mind though that, despite the large network and it’s time in existence, bitcoin has still been encountering roadblocks here and there. In particular, the block size debate has led to the creation of a hard fork in the system, resulting to two different versions of the software and blockchain. This could expose more weaknesses down the line, forcing some traders to divest from this market recently.

Another important factor to consider is how the developers of the cryptocurrency provide support or interact with the community. A more transparent community engagement fosters stronger trust in the network, which could be the key for stronger prominence and more gains in value.

Lastly, despite most cryptocurrencies being decentralized and its transactions anonymous, it also helps to see a bit of transparency in the industry. Knowing who exactly is accountable for any creations or changes in the system also enhances reliability and investment value.

http://www.newsbtc.com/2015/09/07/which-cryptocurrency-should-you-invest-in/

This article is too brief and limited in scope. Investing in infrastructure is like building the foundation of a nice house. DNotes is still heavily investing in foundation building because of its long term commitment to be a trusted global digital currency for everyone worldwide to participate. Others may not care for much of a foundation and already have a pretty house to show for. We are all creating something of value, but our philosophy and time prospective may be noticeably different. That may be another investment consideration.
1607  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][NOTE]DNotes - DCEBrief Digital Currency Executive Brief Has Launched! on: September 08, 2015, 11:36:03 AM

Thanks for your comment Alan. I throw my ideas to this Discussion arena for main projects that might bring to DNOTES further character and media spot. this is not to be the end of talks but the begining of a common thinking process. that is the nature of my ideas till now:--- EGE (earth global economy), a global  association of the (all main) digital currencies leaders, Global New Economy, a Daily newspaper focusing on the new global economy, tech, society, politics etc of the new era of the digital currencies, COMMUNITY DONATION of DNOTES to main aims - for example now: the Exodus of mass refugees to Europe.




Hello friends,

                    I have an idea: let's raise among our community--- DNOTES donation--- to the refugees that streaming to Europe out of  the destruction and combat fields. we can deliver this ---DNOTES donation--- to one of the assistance org on behalf our community and leading team name. this will light DNOTES's social feature and in addition might bring us some media spot. if this idea accepted, we can ask our each community's friend/member to contribute their part - collect it - and deliver. what is your opinion?






This article pre-dates the 2008-09 financial crisis and the dawn of bitcoin, but it gives you something to think about now that we are beginning the age of global digital currencies.  I don't think a single worldwide currency will ever happen or is even a good idea, but I do think having the option of a global currency like DNotes is the best idea.

I haven't looked very far to see what the author thinks of bitcoin now, but he did make the usual comments (an article from 2013) about bitcoin's lack of trust, volatility, gambling, speculation, etc.


A Single Global Currency

"...US$400 billion of annual transaction and exchange costs will be eliminated"  - The Single Global Currency (book)

"The book also argues that if we had a single global currency, worldwide assets would increase by about $36 trillion"

The article goes on to explain how a single currency would help eliminate global imbalances, crises and speculation, etc.

http://www.ecommercetimes.com/story/58347.html
Here is my take. A single global currency is a bad idea and will not likely to happen. It will be way “too big to fail” and there is no conceivable scenario for the world population to allow that to happen.

A trusted global digital currency as an alternative to existing fiat currencies that is available for everyone worldwide to participate is a very different mission with starkly different ultimate goals. It is designed to be a choice for the world population to have an alternative, almost as an insurance policy, if 1) their own sovereign currency failed or devalued drastically due to bad governance or economic conditions beyond their control or whatever the case may be, 2) as a medium of exchange to conduct global commerce between two parties with nearly zero transaction cost anywhere worldwide, and 3) as an opportunity for anyone worldwide to participate for potentially high risk/high returns even with small regular savings for millions who normally have little left that is sufficiently meaningful to save.

Informed scholars and common reasonable people will agree that fiat currencies have always been abused by governments and political leadership around the world. It is not a new phenomenon. It has always been that way and will continue to be so. The open debate will be the intensity. It can get worse and it can get better. As a whole, on a global scale, it is more likely than not to get worse as political leaders continue to make more promises of hand-outs with the full knowledge of governments’ inability to fulfill the immense financial burdens accumulated over generations of irresponsible political leaderships.  




Yes, a single world currency would be the ultimate in "too big to fail", and I'm sure we all agree, it's a bad idea.  My interest in this story came from the fact that it pre-dates bitcoin and was wondering if the views of both authors would be different if there had been viable global digital currencies at the time.  Governments will never give up control of their fiat currency, but a stable, trusted global digital currency could help with some of problems the authors are claiming a single world currency could fix.

If I ever find some spare time, I would also like to read the book just to hear the author's view and see how digital currency might change it.

That could be an interesting book to read. The fact that it pre-dates Bitcoin makes it even more  impressive. When we are ready to write a book on how much money could be saved in global commerce if DNotes gained mass acceptance worldwide, that figure will be many times larger than the US$400 billion. It is ironic, that we are actually designing the necessary building blocks to make that happen. Moreover, quite a few of those building blocks have already been laid. Frankly, there are not too many original ideas anymore. They evolve, refined and get better.

Great idea, Mati. May be just a little too soon. Perhaps in another year or two we will be launching CRISP For Charity, at which time we will be very interested in playing an active role in global relief situations. We are very disciplined in any commitment we made and must be certain that we are not just getting  something done with good intention but at the right time. Now that I have developed a fairly solid network, I am actively working with many potential partners. Charities of such scale is best to be done with strategic partners already with the necessary ground game in play.

I have been around in this challenging business world for a long time and have learned early enough that it is not so much how many things we get to do but how well those projects will work our. Our limited  resources will soon focus on promoting CryptoMoms, DCEBrief, DNotesVault and our family of CRISPs. We are actively seeking strategic partnership, including many women organizations.  

I agree, Mati. DNotes is innovative and pro-active, as best reflected in what we have accomplished in just one and one half years. Being able to think ahead and continuously come up with great ideas as to what else we could be doing in order to accomplish or mission and overall objectives is a very good thing. We certainly encourage that. Keep up the good work. Thanks.
1608  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][NOTE]DNotes - DCEBrief Digital Currency Executive Brief Has Launched! on: September 07, 2015, 09:52:41 PM

Excellent article. Good to know that even local and state governments are beginning to see the immense value of the technology. A trusted global digital currency for every worldwide to participate has immense value for humanity. We are very passionate in our mission to accomplish that ultimate goal.
1609  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][NOTE]DNotes - DCEBrief Digital Currency Executive Brief Has Launched! on: September 07, 2015, 09:39:46 PM
Wow! Sounds familiar.  But  “Have a Bitcoin Association”  4 BIG BOYS – “the largest companies - Coinbase, BitPay, Circle, Xapo - they should all kind of work together and talk more among each other.”  That would be quite an Industry Association! Interesting!!! They must be living in a very small world where only size matters.

That inspires me even more to keep coming up with currency neutral sites like CryptoMoms and DCEBrief as industry solutions promoting mutual respect among our industry peers irrespective their size or power of influence. I wish I have time left to form our version of an industry association. If someone from our industry will take the lead, you can count on my support.  

**************************************

4 of Bitcoin's Most Powerful Corporations May Consider Joining Forces

Sonny Singh, the CCO of BitPay looks to build a coalition of leading Bitcoin companies to boost Bitcoin’s public image and bring Bitcoin’s talents to the masses.

Stumbling block
Bitcoin has many things going for it. It provides a secure, smartphone-compatible online payment network right when the security of traditional payments systems is falling apart, worldwide. It moves money in seconds when standard wire systems still take days. Bitcoin even limits its own supply to instill appreciation into its own economic formula for success, long-term. It solves many, many problems that plague the status quo everyday, yet it can’t seem to solve its own problems.

The mainstream just isn’t ready for it, and aren’t biting. Only the most forward-thinking, tech-savvy minds are in the Bitcoin space right now. That might soon change if BitPay’sCCO has his way. This stumbling block may not last very much longer, as he looks to build a coalition to strengthen Bitcoin’s public image and bring Bitcoin’s talents to the masses.

A Fantastic 4 of Bitcoin

Sonny Singh, the chief commercial officer of BitPay mused to IBTimes of the UK about the potential synergy that could rebuild Bitcoin’s public image. Venture capital is flooding into the Bitcoin industry, doubling last year’s total investment already. Bitcoin is attracting the best and brightest minds in technology, economics and business. Mainstream adoption is still a long ways off, and Singh sees a way to shorten the curve. Singh proposed to:

"Have a Bitcoin Association. Like in America they used to have those commercials for milk: 'Milk does the body good.' That was a very powerful thing. I think a problem Bitcoin faces is that the largest companies - Coinbase, BitPay, Circle, Xapo - they should all kind of work together and talk more among each other.”

Bitcoin’s biggest weakness is its greatest strength, the lack of a centralized leadership. A leader could put a public face on the super-technical protocol. Governments aren’t just militaries and economists, they are people first, most of the time. No one looks after the public image of Bitcoin, defending it from attacks from all sides. Bitcoin is just a system of systems, like the Internet. No one educates the masses on a grand scale or promotes its greatest achievements.

This lack of leadership is also an asset when it comes to the  overall security of the system, preventing private interests from destroying such a revolutionary, disruptive system. It’s a double-edged sword.
“(It shouldn’t be about) marketing for their company, but marketing about Bitcoin: 'Why a normal person would use bitcoin, how it can be used,” Singh went on. ”Getting the word out there - working together. You've got all this money people have raised. Let's try to promote the community.”

Visa and Mastercard have been competitors for over 30 years but have managed to work together on initiatives that have helped the entire card industry. Years ago the EMV, or Eurocrat Mastercard and Visa, using Chip Card technology, enhanced consumer fraud protection by being built into the cards themselves. Adoption becomes an afterthought when the two largest payment corporations work together for the greater good of consumers and the industry. Bitcoin should think the same way, according to Singh. He said:

"In the Bitcoin industry it would be great to see Coinbase and Blockchain work together; the wallet vendors and the processors all work together. I mean if Coinbase or Xapo wins, that means everybody is going to win anyway probably. I mean, Visa and MasterCard are competitors right, but they still manage to work on some standards together.”

Unfortunately, nothing has been brokered as of yet. This was more of a thinking-out-loud kind of proposition through the mainstream media by Singh, to get the ball rolling. Good ideas are best shared. This could be the start of something big in Bitcoin’s immediate future. We’ll keep you posted on any developments.

Source:  http://cointelegraph.com/news/115232/4-of-bitcoins-most-powerful-corporations-may-consider-joining-forces
1610  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][NOTE]DNotes - DCEBrief Digital Currency Executive Brief Has Launched! on: September 07, 2015, 04:21:13 PM

Hello friends,

                    I have an idea: let's raise among our community--- DNOTES donation--- to the refugees that streaming to Europe out of  the destruction and combat fields. we can deliver this ---DNOTES donation--- to one of the assistance org on behalf our community and leading team name. this will light DNOTES's social feature and in addition might bring us some media spot. if this idea accepted, we can ask our each community's friend/member to contribute their part - collect it - and deliver. what is your opinion?






This article pre-dates the 2008-09 financial crisis and the dawn of bitcoin, but it gives you something to think about now that we are beginning the age of global digital currencies.  I don't think a single worldwide currency will ever happen or is even a good idea, but I do think having the option of a global currency like DNotes is the best idea.

I haven't looked very far to see what the author thinks of bitcoin now, but he did make the usual comments (an article from 2013) about bitcoin's lack of trust, volatility, gambling, speculation, etc.


A Single Global Currency

"...US$400 billion of annual transaction and exchange costs will be eliminated"  - The Single Global Currency (book)

"The book also argues that if we had a single global currency, worldwide assets would increase by about $36 trillion"

The article goes on to explain how a single currency would help eliminate global imbalances, crises and speculation, etc.

http://www.ecommercetimes.com/story/58347.html
Here is my take. A single global currency is a bad idea and will not likely to happen. It will be way “too big to fail” and there is no conceivable scenario for the world population to allow that to happen.

A trusted global digital currency as an alternative to existing fiat currencies that is available for everyone worldwide to participate is a very different mission with starkly different ultimate goals. It is designed to be a choice for the world population to have an alternative, almost as an insurance policy, if 1) their own sovereign currency failed or devalued drastically due to bad governance or economic conditions beyond their control or whatever the case may be, 2) as a medium of exchange to conduct global commerce between two parties with nearly zero transaction cost anywhere worldwide, and 3) as an opportunity for anyone worldwide to participate for potentially high risk/high returns even with small regular savings for millions who normally have little left that is sufficiently meaningful to save.

Informed scholars and common reasonable people will agree that fiat currencies have always been abused by governments and political leadership around the world. It is not a new phenomenon. It has always been that way and will continue to be so. The open debate will be the intensity. It can get worse and it can get better. As a whole, on a global scale, it is more likely than not to get worse as political leaders continue to make more promises of hand-outs with the full knowledge of governments’ inability to fulfill the immense financial burdens accumulated over generations of irresponsible political leaderships.  




Yes, a single world currency would be the ultimate in "too big to fail", and I'm sure we all agree, it's a bad idea.  My interest in this story came from the fact that it pre-dates bitcoin and was wondering if the views of both authors would be different if there had been viable global digital currencies at the time.  Governments will never give up control of their fiat currency, but a stable, trusted global digital currency could help with some of problems the authors are claiming a single world currency could fix.

If I ever find some spare time, I would also like to read the book just to hear the author's view and see how digital currency might change it.

That could be an interesting book to read. The fact that it pre-dates Bitcoin makes it even more  impressive. When we are ready to write a book on how much money could be saved in global commerce if DNotes gained mass acceptance worldwide, that figure will be many times larger than the US$400 billion. It is ironic, that we are actually designing the necessary building blocks to make that happen. Moreover, quite a few of those building blocks have already been laid. Frankly, there are not too many original ideas anymore. They evolve, refined and get better.

Great idea, Mati. May be just a little too soon. Perhaps in another year or two we will be launching CRISP For Charity, at which time we will be very interested in playing an active role in global relief situations. We are very disciplined in any commitment we made and must be certain that we are not just getting  something done with good intention but at the right time. Now that I have developed a fairly solid network, I am actively working with many potential partners. Charities of such scale is best to be done with strategic partners already with the necessary ground game in play.

I have been around in this challenging business world for a long time and have learned early enough that it is not so much how many things we get to do but how well those projects will work our. Our limited  resources will soon focus on promoting CryptoMoms, DCEBrief, DNotesVault and our family of CRISPs. We are actively seeking strategic partnership, including many women organizations.  
1611  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][NOTE]DNotes - DCEBrief Digital Currency Executive Brief Has Launched! on: September 07, 2015, 02:18:51 AM

This article pre-dates the 2008-09 financial crisis and the dawn of bitcoin, but it gives you something to think about now that we are beginning the age of global digital currencies.  I don't think a single worldwide currency will ever happen or is even a good idea, but I do think having the option of a global currency like DNotes is the best idea.

I haven't looked very far to see what the author thinks of bitcoin now, but he did make the usual comments (an article from 2013) about bitcoin's lack of trust, volatility, gambling, speculation, etc.


A Single Global Currency

"...US$400 billion of annual transaction and exchange costs will be eliminated"  - The Single Global Currency (book)

"The book also argues that if we had a single global currency, worldwide assets would increase by about $36 trillion"

The article goes on to explain how a single currency would help eliminate global imbalances, crises and speculation, etc.

http://www.ecommercetimes.com/story/58347.html
Here is my take. A single global currency is a bad idea and will not likely to happen. It will be way “too big to fail” and there is no conceivable scenario for the world population to allow that to happen.

A trusted global digital currency as an alternative to existing fiat currencies that is available for everyone worldwide to participate is a very different mission with starkly different ultimate goals. It is designed to be a choice for the world population to have an alternative, almost as an insurance policy, if 1) their own sovereign currency failed or devalued drastically due to bad governance or economic conditions beyond their control or whatever the case may be, 2) as a medium of exchange to conduct global commerce between two parties with nearly zero transaction cost anywhere worldwide, and 3) as an opportunity for anyone worldwide to participate for potentially high risk/high returns even with small regular savings for millions who normally have little left that is sufficiently meaningful to save.

Informed scholars and common reasonable people will agree that fiat currencies have always been abused by governments and political leadership around the world. It is not a new phenomenon. It has always been that way and will continue to be so. The open debate will be the intensity. It can get worse and it can get better. As a whole, on a global scale, it is more likely than not to get worse as political leaders continue to make more promises of hand-outs with the full knowledge of governments’ inability to fulfill the immense financial burdens accumulated over generations of irresponsible political leaderships.  




Yes, a single world currency would be the ultimate in "too big to fail", and I'm sure we all agree, it's a bad idea.  My interest in this story came from the fact that it pre-dates bitcoin and was wondering if the views of both authors would be different if there had been viable global digital currencies at the time.  Governments will never give up control of their fiat currency, but a stable, trusted global digital currency could help with some of problems the authors are claiming a single world currency could fix.

If I ever find some spare time, I would also like to read the book just to hear the author's view and see how digital currency might change it.

That could be an interesting book to read. The fact that it pre-dates Bitcoin makes it even more  impressive. When we are ready to write a book on how much money could be saved in global commerce if DNotes gained mass acceptance worldwide, that figure will be many times larger than the US$400 billion. It is ironic, that we are actually designing the necessary building blocks to make that happen. Moreover, quite a few of those building blocks have already been laid. Frankly, there are not too many original ideas anymore. They evolve, refined and get better.
1612  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][NOTE]DNotes - DCEBrief Digital Currency Executive Brief Has Launched! on: September 06, 2015, 06:08:48 PM

This article pre-dates the 2008-09 financial crisis and the dawn of bitcoin, but it gives you something to think about now that we are beginning the age of global digital currencies.  I don't think a single worldwide currency will ever happen or is even a good idea, but I do think having the option of a global currency like DNotes is the best idea.

I haven't looked very far to see what the author thinks of bitcoin now, but he did make the usual comments (an article from 2013) about bitcoin's lack of trust, volatility, gambling, speculation, etc.


A Single Global Currency

"...US$400 billion of annual transaction and exchange costs will be eliminated"  - The Single Global Currency (book)

"The book also argues that if we had a single global currency, worldwide assets would increase by about $36 trillion"

The article goes on to explain how a single currency would help eliminate global imbalances, crises and speculation, etc.

http://www.ecommercetimes.com/story/58347.html
Here is my take. A single global currency is a bad idea and will not likely to happen. It will be way “too big to fail” and there is no conceivable scenario for the world population to allow that to happen.

A trusted global digital currency as an alternative to existing fiat currencies that is available for everyone worldwide to participate is a very different mission with starkly different ultimate goals. It is designed to be a choice for the world population to have an alternative, almost as an insurance policy, if 1) their own sovereign currency failed or devalued drastically due to bad governance or economic conditions beyond their control or whatever the case may be, 2) as a medium of exchange to conduct global commerce between two parties with nearly zero transaction cost anywhere worldwide, and 3) as an opportunity for anyone worldwide to participate for potentially high risk/high returns even with small regular savings for millions who normally have little left that is sufficiently meaningful to save.

Informed scholars and common reasonable people will agree that fiat currencies have always been abused by governments and political leadership around the world. It is not a new phenomenon. It has always been that way and will continue to be so. The open debate will be the intensity. It can get worse and it can get better. As a whole, on a global scale, it is more likely than not to get worse as political leaders continue to make more promises of hand-outs with the full knowledge of governments’ inability to fulfill the immense financial burdens accumulated over generations of irresponsible political leaderships.  

1613  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][NOTE]DNotes - DCEBrief Digital Currency Executive Brief Has Launched! on: September 05, 2015, 04:24:33 PM
Speaking of banks...

Here comes another permissioned blockchain, so I have to ask; What happens when there is a quagmire (my favorite govt / bank word) of these blockchains because everyone wants their own?  Will they work together or will it create chaos?  There could be thousands of tokens around the world which would require conversion, etc. Sounds like fiat, but what do I know. lol


UBS to Develop Yet Another ‘Permissioned Blockchain’ for Banks

In April, Bitcoin Magazine reported that UBS was planning to investigate blockchain technology in a new innovation lab based in London. The innovation lab is located in Level39, Europe’s largest technology accelerator space for finance and cyber-securities, and focuses on exploring the role of blockchain technology in financial services.

UBS, a Swiss global financial services company with its headquarters in Basel and Zürich, is the biggest Swiss bank and is considered as the world’s largest manager of private wealth assets, with more than 2.2 trillion Swiss francs (CHF) in invested assets.

In August, the bank launched a “Future of Finance Challenge” for financial technology entrepreneurs and startups. The Future of Finance Challenge covers a broad range of emerging fintech areas, including blockchain technology and applications, cryptocurrencies, distributed ledgers, security and privacy verification and smart contracts.

Now, the blockchain vision and strategy of the giant Swiss bank are becoming clearer. UBS is working on a prototype virtual currency that it hopes will be used by banks and financial institutions as a basis to settle mainstream financial markets transactions, The Wall Street Journal reports.

The new virtual currency, dubbed “utility settlement coin,” would be used for post-trade settlements between financial institutions on private financial platforms built on blockchain technology. For example, UBS might have its own blockchain-based platform to issue bonds, and another bank might have a blockchain-based stock-trading platform, but both would use the same utility coin for settlement.

The bank doesn’t plan to issue the new digital coin itself but hopes to work with other banks, regulators and financial service providers for an industrywide product. Hyder Jaffrey, the bank’s e-commerce commercial director, said UBS had already reached out to potential partners, but would not comment on specific institutions.

The utility settlement coin is a “permissioned blockchain” similar to the Bankchain project recently announced by Bitcoin exchange itBit. Permissioned blockchains, also endorsed by Accenture and Digital Asset Holdings CEO Blythe Masters, are the new trend in Wall Street’s uneasy flirtation with Bitcoin. Basically, permissioned blockchains would offer the advantages of digital currencies powered by public blockchain – fast and cheap transactions permanently recorded in a shared ledger – without the troublesome openness of the Bitcoin network where anyone can be a node on the network anonymously.

Using the utility settlement coin or similar systems, financial institutions could settle trades in seconds rather than days, which could lead to reduced risk, lower operational costs, and increased efficiency. To achieve this vision, UBS is partnering with blockchain fintech startup Clearmatics, based in London. The key difference between Clearmatics’ implementation of the blockchain technology and Bitcoin is the fact that only authorized participants can validate transactions. “Unlike cryptocurrency blockchains, validators are authenticated and legally accountable,” states the Clearmatics website.

A recent post on the Clearmatics website, titled “No, Bitcoin is not the future of securities settlement,” provides a point-by-point analysis of the original Bitcoin whitepaper by Satoshi Nakamoto from the point of view of the financial establishment, and a clear outline of the reasons why banks and mainstream financial institutions won’t touch permissionless blockchain networks like Bitcoin.

“To serve as a replacement for the legacy technology implementing registered, book-entry assets, a distributed ledger of financial assets will have to ensure a tight correspondence between what the ledger and the law say is the state of who-owns-what,” notes the post. “This is obviously incompatible with a protocol based on anonymous transaction validators; the law will not treat a ledger record as authoritative if everyone knows that the current longest chain contains blocks generated by an anonymous attacker who replaced a bit of history that was chronologically prior. But the bitcoin protocol has no mechanism for dealing with this scenario, no mechanism for bringing ledger state and legal state back into alignment.”

According to the company, Clearmatics’ permissioned blockchain infrastructure is not only “thousands of times more efficient” than the Bitcoin network, but also places a governance structure over the validators to ensure resistance to attacks.

The Wall Steet Journal article wisely mentions critiques to UBS’ approach and permissioned blockchains in general. In particular, former Bitcoin Foundation director Jon Matonis is persuaded that private, permissioned blockchains might fall short of their objectives. “It could end up being very similar to centralized payments networks we have right now, without the benefit of the network effect of bitcoin,” he said.

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/21851/ubs-develop-yet-another-permissioned-blockchain-banks/

"quagmire!!!.........!!!" Get ready. Expect hundreds of different "permission tokens" Confused already. They will be a lot more to come. Those who truly believe in DECENTRALIZED Digital Currency must not allow our voice to be drown out.
1614  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][NOTE]DNotes - DCEBrief Digital Currency Executive Brief Has Launched! on: September 05, 2015, 12:44:20 PM
Here comes centralized Digital Currency, I mentioned earlier. This may not be a good thing for the consumers, many bank employees and many of us who are committed to decentralized financial services as an alternative to government/bank controlled currency. Unfortunately, we don't even have an industry association to speak with a united voice. That is just my opinion. What is yours?



itBit Hires Former NYDFS General Counsel Daniel Alter, Pushes Ahead with Bankchain Project

by GIULIO PRISCO on SEPTEMBER 3, 2015 0
https://bitcoinmagazine.com/21845/itbit-hires-former-nydfs-general-counsel-daniel-alter-pushes-ahead-bankchain-project/


In April, Bitcoin Magazine reported that Bitcoin exchange itBit had filed for a banking license in New York. Later in May, itBit was granted a trust charter by the New York Department of Financial Services (NYFDS) under New York State banking law, the first such charter granted to a digital currency company by the NYDFS. ItBit also announced the successful completion of a $25 million Series A funding round.

On September 2, itBit announced the appointments of Daniel “Danny” Alter as the company’s new general counsel and chief compliance officer, and Kim Petry as chief financial officer. Petry was previously CFO of global operations and technology at Broadridge Financial Services and, before that, served as CFO and vice president of global commercial/corporate card payment at American Express.

Alter joined itBit after stepping down in February from his most recent post as general counsel of the New York State Department of Financial Services (NYDFS), where he served as principal counsel and strategic adviser to the New York state superintendent of financial services.

The former New York State Superintendent of Financial Services Benjamin Lawsky left the NYDFS after releasing the controversial Bitlicense regulations for digital currency businesses operating in New York. Lawsky’s move to a consulting business was strongly criticized by the libertarian Cato Institute.

“Because of the contacts he made as a regulator, [Lawsky] can hire himself out to Bitcoin companies wanting to signal to other regulators that they have the approval of the regulatory establishment,” noted Cato Senior Fellow Jim Harper.

It seems likely that Alter’s move to itBit might be criticized in the same grounds.

“The New York State Public Officers law requires that I have a two-year recusal before I can appear before the New York Department of Financial Services on behalf of the company,” said Alter in a pre-emptive statement reported by Reuters. “And it will certainly apply to itBit. I will not step near or have any communications with the New York Department of Financial Services. Those will be handled by outside counsel or qualified compliance people within the company.”

“Between Danny’s deep expertise in financial services and virtual currency regulation and Kim’s demonstrated track record as a successful CFO of global financial organizations, I’m confident that itBit will continue to grow and develop innovative blockchain-based solutions to address the financial industry’s greatest pain points,” said itBit co-founder and CEO Chad Cascarilla. “Danny and Kim possess a deep understanding of how to grow and run a successful business within the regulatory framework of the financial services industry, and their expertise will be invaluable as we work toward the launch of our new permissioned distributed ledger product – Bankchain.”

Bankchain, a new high profile project still held under wraps by itBit, will be a closed, “permissioned blockchain” owned and operated by banks and financial institutions – in other words, a private blockchain without bitcoin and anonymous miners. According to itBit claims, Bankchain will automate, accelerate and simplify post-trade processes across the financial services industry, saving institutions time and money.

Bankchain is “the first consensus-based ledger system exclusively for financial institutions,” states the still very basic Bankchain website. “Bankchain is a new clearing and settlement network that leverages blockchain technology to reimagine how financial institutions execute post-trade. The decentralized network is powered by itBit but fully governed by the member participants that join the platform.”

“[Bankchain] is a proprietary itBit protocol, not blockchain based, but is derived off of blockchain,” itBit head of global operations Steve Wager told Coindesk in August. “We will also not be using bitcoin as the native token; it will be an itBit proprietary token.”

Reddit users strongly criticized the “Sinister Bankchain Project,” but it appears that the trend toward private, permissioned blockchains is here to stay, with strong support expressed, among others, by Accenture and Digital Asset Holdings CEO Blythe Masters.


The itBit / Bank team-up is 100% profit motivated.  None of the savings generated by implementing Bankchain will be passed on to the consumer in the form of reduced fees or lower interest charged.  It really doesn't sound like anything the consumer will be involved in at all, except perhaps a settlement of payments between banks on the customer's exhorbitant interest-loaded credit card balance.

I think we need to separate ourselves, in the public's eye, from what the banks are doing. They are merely using the technology for their own profit.  We, on the other hand, are creating a global currency that everyone worldwide can use, invest in, profit in, conduct business with, and bring stability to the finances of people living with government corruption and runaway inflation.  People from every country, even the ones that appear stable can benefit from a truly decentralized global digital currency.

As far as the banks settling payments from cross border remittances, what are the chances of banks in third world countries trusting these American(?) banks enough to use bankchain tokens?  Or will these poor countries even be invited to the party?



Apologies if this is difficult to read etc, it's one of my 'long posts' where I think of things and get confused about the order I should discuss them, then 'chop and change' sentences around which can make the message harder to follow. These views and 'on the fly' thoughts are my own, and do not necessarily reflect those of DNotes.

To begin I'm not sure I like the idea when regulators and officials take jobs from companies who had been lobbying them.

To use a politically neutral example, who remembers Darleen Druyun, former weapons buyer for the US Air force? Well in 2005 she was jailed for (only) 9 months after pleading guilty to giving Boeing special treatment in a 23.5 billion dollar government contract - of course, after the deal was inked, Druyun was hired by Boeing as a vice-president with an annual salary of 250k. Druyun allowed Boeing to negotiate for an extra 6 billion dollars more than the contract should have been. This kind of hiring of 'career' government officials into highly paid corporate executive roles has been routine for decades. I don't know if Mr Lawsky made the regulations incredibly expensive and difficult to comply with, to the detriment of itBit's competition before he left the NYDFS, but considering that to the best of my knowledge, itBit is still the only exchange to have a banking licence... it kinda stinks of corruption. This could be a big misunderstanding though, and those two regulators may have just joined itBit fair and square, or these two regulators made itBit a 'sure thing' - we may never know. The next question would be that in the event that there was unfair favouritism affird to itBit, is it sensible (risky) to go into business with them should foul-play be uncovered in the future, or do these appointments provide some level of immunity? It will take more time watching how this all plays out.


In regards to the 'bankchain' thing, I've been waiting for something like this to come along for a while. We all expected banks to try to take the technology for their own to improve their settlement payments from overnight to near-instant. I can see lots of problems with itBit's idea - but I presume many customers may prefer joining banks that are members of the 'bankchain' system for faster payments, which could encourage even more banks to join. I don't have any issue with itBit being profit motivated, but re-my point about the regulators passing ridiculously difficult regulations in NY that have turned away nearly all of itBit's competitors... it doesn't sound like they're playing fair game. Again, this may not be the case at all - pending further research and developments.


Of course, ItBit and the banks are still at a disadvantage - they haven't fixed the money, they still use fiat. I could go on and on with various graphs and points (may I point people in the direction of IMZ's crypto kindergarten blog posts on cryptomoms.com forums), but the reality is that fiat is created as debt, which means new money must come into creation to pay for the interest owing on that debt, which is completely unsustainable. World governments are in massive debt crises, and they have all failed to create the next 'economic' bubble that would give a false sense that the 'real' economy isn't in decline.

But why has recovery been unattainable on this occasion?



https://www.quandl.com/data/FRED/DFF-Effective-Federal-Funds-Rate

Take a look at the effective federal funds rate in the link above. The interest rate tends to be lifted by the fed in times of economic boom, and severely lowered in times when the government want to promulgate economic activity, which leads to 'bubbles' (stock bubble, dotcom bubble, housing bubble etc). The chart clearly shows drops in the interest rate in ~1988, ~2001 and ~2007 in line with the decline of each bubble. These low interest rates make borrowing really cheap, and encourage ridiculous investment activities that no sane person would make if interest rates were dictated by the free-market. Currently, the Fed has an effective 0.14 % interest rate, and it has been near zero since ~2010.

The fact that interest rates are still low, is the obvious tell that there has been no 'real' economic recovery. What is worse, is that there is now nothing in the way of 'government tools' to improve this situation - QE has already convoluted the real decline in the US economy, and dropping interest rates any lower would make them go negative. I hardly think anybody would be interested in running a restaurant where they paid customers to come and eat, and I think it would work the same with your bank deposits if you were earning negative interest - It would mean the destruction of the banking system. I could go into this much further, and bring about many other points, but this should suffice for the moment. Basically, crypto currencies have more long-term stable potential than fiat currencies do. Crypto is going to become a more attractive alternative, and quickly.

But DNotes doesn't only have the advantage of sound money - It is a good point to highlight that DNotes is creating a global digital currency that is useful everywhere and holds an equal value worldwide, so there is no requirment no transfer between currencies (i.e. Euro to USD) like with itBit's system - (presuming foreign banks co-operate, or foreign exchange is possible as a service of the banks through the bankchain).
ItBits 'bankchain' simply can not compete on the near-zero transfer cost possible with DNotes and our ecosystem. Not within the same country, and certainly not internationally. If ItBit does try to compete, the banks will not be pleased to forego all of their processing fee's (income) and leave the bankchain. If they don't try to compete on processing fees, then DNotes holds a competitive advantage and consumers would get more value using DNotes for transfer. ItBit's strategy could like like any number of things, but one could be that they work to get adopted by the banking system, and quickly, then proclaim victory and hope everybody else gives up - including crypto industries. They would come up with some slogan to entice banks like "Bitcoin brought instant payment transfers, banking uses 'real' money. ItBit brings you both". ItBit may simultaneously remain one of the only exchanges where crypto-USD transfers are permitted by the US Gov through banking licences, especially if the NY regulations are adopted in other states (which looks likely). ItBit could continue to accommodate the 'niche' crypto market and make extra profits as a monopoly / oligopoly player to supplement their 'bankchain' income - which would be a great way to hedge their bets in the short term.

Normally I try to avoid speculating this far ahead because there are too many assumptions made along the way. Changing one assumption, would then change the 'next step'. The above is but one potential path we could see.

Chase, I have no idea if banks in developing nations would be invited to the party. I imagine it would be the US banks that wouldn't want to deal with those in developing nations. Assuming any banks even wanted to use ItBit's platform, I doubt the US government would allow the banking system to shift from predominantly being traded in USD, to being traded in "ItBit tokens"... I think DNotes and digital currencies in general are safer from government trying to shut down their ecosystems. It would be much more likely that if this 'bankchain' thing is successful, the US government would buy the rights to it, then force all banks to trade using their own 'issued' tokens by the "BankFederalReserveChain". That way the US government would be able to spy much more easily on every banking transaction, and all but make physical cash illegal...

Of course, at that juncture, who knows how many everyday people would have decided they would prefer to use decentralized crypto's like DNotes?

Anyway, hopefully it sparks an interesting conversation.


Thanks TeeGee, I will comment on a small portion of it. I suspect there will be many more niche chains and tokens to come, targeting banks/companies/data/contracts/nations and a plethora of other things. Some will become corrupt, centralized, convoluted, or just fail to gain adoption and some will be successful. However, I believe there will always be a need for a global digital currency for all of these things to pair, and essentially allow them to work in a global/national marketplace. I also believe there is a need for a trusted, positive driving force behind the global digital currency, trying to move things in the right direction without the possibility of direct control. Hence DNotes.


Excellent discussion, but where is RJF when we needed him? LOL I know that he is a busy guy but I am sure that he will have some good inputs.

I agree that there will be many different versions of "bankchain" and small banks will be left out for a long time. Massive integration is never easy and I am sure that there will be many challenges and pitfalls along the way. As I mentioned earlier their most immediate advantage is the movement of money especially in cross border currency transfer. The blockchain technology allows for near real time settlement, times-stamped permanent, single data entry, and verifiable record keeping. However, remaining as fiat currency/tokenized digital currency that is still centralized, in my mind, it is not a clean and total solution. It will still involve a lot of paperwork, double entries and manual audits.

This is a very new development. My opinion is speculative and I would appreciate that you all keep an eye on this subject any post new information as it becomes available. Thanks.  

Sorry guys, and girls! I'm a bit overwhelmed at the moment. Major projects at work and the paramedic unit I run with just won a very prestigious award:

"Public Information Office, August 18

Calvert Advanced Life Support has received notification the department has been selected as the NAEMT’s Volunteer Department of The Year 2015. The award, which is sponsored by Zoll, will be presented at the National Association of Emergency Medical Technicians General Membership Meeting and Awards Presentation on Wednesday, Sept. 16, in Las Vegas, Nevada during EMSworld Expo."

As Chairman of the Board of Directors of that organization, I have been very busy helping prepare for this. We are sending a select group to Vegas to accept the award and attend the conference. My wife (a past Chief of CALS) will be attending and we intend to extend our stay on the west coast to California to visit family and drive the Pacific Coast Highway, something I've always wanted to do.

So, I'll be reading but not posting much till we return later in the month. As for the subject at hand, I think we all realize that commercial interests such as banks, will exploit crypto every way they can now that they realize it's not going away, this is to be expected.

They will also fail in the long run because they have no soul, no real belief in the greater good crypto can do for the worlds less fortunate populations. Its a sad fact of life that for good to exist, there must also be evil. I personally believe good can triumph as long as people believe it can. DNotes stands for good. I think all of us here are fighting for a greater cause than personal wealth and that my friends, is why we will prosper and come out on top.

DNotes best course of action is continuing to do exactly what we are doing now, educating. We must stay the course and continue to bring the message to those who can benefit most and thats not the bankers, it's the ordinary people, the simple folks, the disadvantaged, the isolated and all those who believe the current system is top heavy and imperfect.

So, carry on, keep the torches lit and rally the troupes as needed, we will prevail in the long game.  Smiley




We are very proud of you and your team. Congratulations! I am sure that is well deserved. Enjoy your trip. We will miss you. Highway 1 or Pacific Coast Highway is absolutely a beauty. I have driven on it quite a few times and once with my wife almost the entire route (over 500 + miles) out of 700+ miles. Sunset was amazing at the right spot.

I have been doing quite a bit more thinking about the bank taking advantage of the Blockchain technology to improve their efficiency in the movement or transfer of money. This may actually be a good thing. It will help to legitimize digital currency like DNotes. With mass acceptance decentralized digital currency is far superior to fiat currency, including centralized digital currency like what the bank is trying to do. I am sure one of my future articles for DCEBrief will cover this subject.

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Thanks! While I understand where you're coming from, having worked in a Bank when I was much younger, I don't trust them even a little bit. They will make more money from crypto than they are now from conventional means, and we will all pay. I do agree with mainstreaming crypto any way possible, even using banks but, I still believe it could get ugly and the only ones to loose will be the little guy as usual. I sincerely hope I'm wrong and you're right! In either event, the industry will survive and grow, might even help in some ways by spreading the word as you say. And DNotes will be there after the fallout settles to provide stability and value.


 


We are 99% in agreement. I am just giving them the benefit of the doubt and trust them a tiny bit. Banks will continue to perform a vital function, and for DNotes to be truly successful, at some point we have to interface with the banking system. Like it or not, they will continue to be the gateway of wealth.

Having said that, I have many issues with banks.  I am especially troubled by those practices that are designed to exploit those who live from pay check to pay check, as well as many struggling small business owners. I was a small business management consultant for a number of years and well aware of the fact that struggling small business owners are the biggest contributors to the bank’s bottom line. So I do agree that Blockchain technology adoption by banks could get ugly, disproportionately affecting the little guy, small business owners and many employees. However, I fully expect that there will be a lot of competition. We will be doing everything we can to ensure that DNotes will be a alternative to those who prefer to be their own banks and have more control of their financial destiny. 
1615  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][NOTE]DNotes - DCEBrief Digital Currency Executive Brief Has Launched! on: September 05, 2015, 04:44:09 AM
Here comes centralized Digital Currency, I mentioned earlier. This may not be a good thing for the consumers, many bank employees and many of us who are committed to decentralized financial services as an alternative to government/bank controlled currency. Unfortunately, we don't even have an industry association to speak with a united voice. That is just my opinion. What is yours?



itBit Hires Former NYDFS General Counsel Daniel Alter, Pushes Ahead with Bankchain Project

by GIULIO PRISCO on SEPTEMBER 3, 2015 0
https://bitcoinmagazine.com/21845/itbit-hires-former-nydfs-general-counsel-daniel-alter-pushes-ahead-bankchain-project/


In April, Bitcoin Magazine reported that Bitcoin exchange itBit had filed for a banking license in New York. Later in May, itBit was granted a trust charter by the New York Department of Financial Services (NYFDS) under New York State banking law, the first such charter granted to a digital currency company by the NYDFS. ItBit also announced the successful completion of a $25 million Series A funding round.

On September 2, itBit announced the appointments of Daniel “Danny” Alter as the company’s new general counsel and chief compliance officer, and Kim Petry as chief financial officer. Petry was previously CFO of global operations and technology at Broadridge Financial Services and, before that, served as CFO and vice president of global commercial/corporate card payment at American Express.

Alter joined itBit after stepping down in February from his most recent post as general counsel of the New York State Department of Financial Services (NYDFS), where he served as principal counsel and strategic adviser to the New York state superintendent of financial services.

The former New York State Superintendent of Financial Services Benjamin Lawsky left the NYDFS after releasing the controversial Bitlicense regulations for digital currency businesses operating in New York. Lawsky’s move to a consulting business was strongly criticized by the libertarian Cato Institute.

“Because of the contacts he made as a regulator, [Lawsky] can hire himself out to Bitcoin companies wanting to signal to other regulators that they have the approval of the regulatory establishment,” noted Cato Senior Fellow Jim Harper.

It seems likely that Alter’s move to itBit might be criticized in the same grounds.

“The New York State Public Officers law requires that I have a two-year recusal before I can appear before the New York Department of Financial Services on behalf of the company,” said Alter in a pre-emptive statement reported by Reuters. “And it will certainly apply to itBit. I will not step near or have any communications with the New York Department of Financial Services. Those will be handled by outside counsel or qualified compliance people within the company.”

“Between Danny’s deep expertise in financial services and virtual currency regulation and Kim’s demonstrated track record as a successful CFO of global financial organizations, I’m confident that itBit will continue to grow and develop innovative blockchain-based solutions to address the financial industry’s greatest pain points,” said itBit co-founder and CEO Chad Cascarilla. “Danny and Kim possess a deep understanding of how to grow and run a successful business within the regulatory framework of the financial services industry, and their expertise will be invaluable as we work toward the launch of our new permissioned distributed ledger product – Bankchain.”

Bankchain, a new high profile project still held under wraps by itBit, will be a closed, “permissioned blockchain” owned and operated by banks and financial institutions – in other words, a private blockchain without bitcoin and anonymous miners. According to itBit claims, Bankchain will automate, accelerate and simplify post-trade processes across the financial services industry, saving institutions time and money.

Bankchain is “the first consensus-based ledger system exclusively for financial institutions,” states the still very basic Bankchain website. “Bankchain is a new clearing and settlement network that leverages blockchain technology to reimagine how financial institutions execute post-trade. The decentralized network is powered by itBit but fully governed by the member participants that join the platform.”

“[Bankchain] is a proprietary itBit protocol, not blockchain based, but is derived off of blockchain,” itBit head of global operations Steve Wager told Coindesk in August. “We will also not be using bitcoin as the native token; it will be an itBit proprietary token.”

Reddit users strongly criticized the “Sinister Bankchain Project,” but it appears that the trend toward private, permissioned blockchains is here to stay, with strong support expressed, among others, by Accenture and Digital Asset Holdings CEO Blythe Masters.


The itBit / Bank team-up is 100% profit motivated.  None of the savings generated by implementing Bankchain will be passed on to the consumer in the form of reduced fees or lower interest charged.  It really doesn't sound like anything the consumer will be involved in at all, except perhaps a settlement of payments between banks on the customer's exhorbitant interest-loaded credit card balance.

I think we need to separate ourselves, in the public's eye, from what the banks are doing. They are merely using the technology for their own profit.  We, on the other hand, are creating a global currency that everyone worldwide can use, invest in, profit in, conduct business with, and bring stability to the finances of people living with government corruption and runaway inflation.  People from every country, even the ones that appear stable can benefit from a truly decentralized global digital currency.

As far as the banks settling payments from cross border remittances, what are the chances of banks in third world countries trusting these American(?) banks enough to use bankchain tokens?  Or will these poor countries even be invited to the party?



Apologies if this is difficult to read etc, it's one of my 'long posts' where I think of things and get confused about the order I should discuss them, then 'chop and change' sentences around which can make the message harder to follow. These views and 'on the fly' thoughts are my own, and do not necessarily reflect those of DNotes.

To begin I'm not sure I like the idea when regulators and officials take jobs from companies who had been lobbying them.

To use a politically neutral example, who remembers Darleen Druyun, former weapons buyer for the US Air force? Well in 2005 she was jailed for (only) 9 months after pleading guilty to giving Boeing special treatment in a 23.5 billion dollar government contract - of course, after the deal was inked, Druyun was hired by Boeing as a vice-president with an annual salary of 250k. Druyun allowed Boeing to negotiate for an extra 6 billion dollars more than the contract should have been. This kind of hiring of 'career' government officials into highly paid corporate executive roles has been routine for decades. I don't know if Mr Lawsky made the regulations incredibly expensive and difficult to comply with, to the detriment of itBit's competition before he left the NYDFS, but considering that to the best of my knowledge, itBit is still the only exchange to have a banking licence... it kinda stinks of corruption. This could be a big misunderstanding though, and those two regulators may have just joined itBit fair and square, or these two regulators made itBit a 'sure thing' - we may never know. The next question would be that in the event that there was unfair favouritism affird to itBit, is it sensible (risky) to go into business with them should foul-play be uncovered in the future, or do these appointments provide some level of immunity? It will take more time watching how this all plays out.


In regards to the 'bankchain' thing, I've been waiting for something like this to come along for a while. We all expected banks to try to take the technology for their own to improve their settlement payments from overnight to near-instant. I can see lots of problems with itBit's idea - but I presume many customers may prefer joining banks that are members of the 'bankchain' system for faster payments, which could encourage even more banks to join. I don't have any issue with itBit being profit motivated, but re-my point about the regulators passing ridiculously difficult regulations in NY that have turned away nearly all of itBit's competitors... it doesn't sound like they're playing fair game. Again, this may not be the case at all - pending further research and developments.


Of course, ItBit and the banks are still at a disadvantage - they haven't fixed the money, they still use fiat. I could go on and on with various graphs and points (may I point people in the direction of IMZ's crypto kindergarten blog posts on cryptomoms.com forums), but the reality is that fiat is created as debt, which means new money must come into creation to pay for the interest owing on that debt, which is completely unsustainable. World governments are in massive debt crises, and they have all failed to create the next 'economic' bubble that would give a false sense that the 'real' economy isn't in decline.

But why has recovery been unattainable on this occasion?



https://www.quandl.com/data/FRED/DFF-Effective-Federal-Funds-Rate

Take a look at the effective federal funds rate in the link above. The interest rate tends to be lifted by the fed in times of economic boom, and severely lowered in times when the government want to promulgate economic activity, which leads to 'bubbles' (stock bubble, dotcom bubble, housing bubble etc). The chart clearly shows drops in the interest rate in ~1988, ~2001 and ~2007 in line with the decline of each bubble. These low interest rates make borrowing really cheap, and encourage ridiculous investment activities that no sane person would make if interest rates were dictated by the free-market. Currently, the Fed has an effective 0.14 % interest rate, and it has been near zero since ~2010.

The fact that interest rates are still low, is the obvious tell that there has been no 'real' economic recovery. What is worse, is that there is now nothing in the way of 'government tools' to improve this situation - QE has already convoluted the real decline in the US economy, and dropping interest rates any lower would make them go negative. I hardly think anybody would be interested in running a restaurant where they paid customers to come and eat, and I think it would work the same with your bank deposits if you were earning negative interest - It would mean the destruction of the banking system. I could go into this much further, and bring about many other points, but this should suffice for the moment. Basically, crypto currencies have more long-term stable potential than fiat currencies do. Crypto is going to become a more attractive alternative, and quickly.

But DNotes doesn't only have the advantage of sound money - It is a good point to highlight that DNotes is creating a global digital currency that is useful everywhere and holds an equal value worldwide, so there is no requirment no transfer between currencies (i.e. Euro to USD) like with itBit's system - (presuming foreign banks co-operate, or foreign exchange is possible as a service of the banks through the bankchain).
ItBits 'bankchain' simply can not compete on the near-zero transfer cost possible with DNotes and our ecosystem. Not within the same country, and certainly not internationally. If ItBit does try to compete, the banks will not be pleased to forego all of their processing fee's (income) and leave the bankchain. If they don't try to compete on processing fees, then DNotes holds a competitive advantage and consumers would get more value using DNotes for transfer. ItBit's strategy could like like any number of things, but one could be that they work to get adopted by the banking system, and quickly, then proclaim victory and hope everybody else gives up - including crypto industries. They would come up with some slogan to entice banks like "Bitcoin brought instant payment transfers, banking uses 'real' money. ItBit brings you both". ItBit may simultaneously remain one of the only exchanges where crypto-USD transfers are permitted by the US Gov through banking licences, especially if the NY regulations are adopted in other states (which looks likely). ItBit could continue to accommodate the 'niche' crypto market and make extra profits as a monopoly / oligopoly player to supplement their 'bankchain' income - which would be a great way to hedge their bets in the short term.

Normally I try to avoid speculating this far ahead because there are too many assumptions made along the way. Changing one assumption, would then change the 'next step'. The above is but one potential path we could see.

Chase, I have no idea if banks in developing nations would be invited to the party. I imagine it would be the US banks that wouldn't want to deal with those in developing nations. Assuming any banks even wanted to use ItBit's platform, I doubt the US government would allow the banking system to shift from predominantly being traded in USD, to being traded in "ItBit tokens"... I think DNotes and digital currencies in general are safer from government trying to shut down their ecosystems. It would be much more likely that if this 'bankchain' thing is successful, the US government would buy the rights to it, then force all banks to trade using their own 'issued' tokens by the "BankFederalReserveChain". That way the US government would be able to spy much more easily on every banking transaction, and all but make physical cash illegal...

Of course, at that juncture, who knows how many everyday people would have decided they would prefer to use decentralized crypto's like DNotes?

Anyway, hopefully it sparks an interesting conversation.


Thanks TeeGee, I will comment on a small portion of it. I suspect there will be many more niche chains and tokens to come, targeting banks/companies/data/contracts/nations and a plethora of other things. Some will become corrupt, centralized, convoluted, or just fail to gain adoption and some will be successful. However, I believe there will always be a need for a global digital currency for all of these things to pair, and essentially allow them to work in a global/national marketplace. I also believe there is a need for a trusted, positive driving force behind the global digital currency, trying to move things in the right direction without the possibility of direct control. Hence DNotes.


Excellent discussion, but where is RJF when we needed him? LOL I know that he is a busy guy but I am sure that he will have some good inputs.

I agree that there will be many different versions of "bankchain" and small banks will be left out for a long time. Massive integration is never easy and I am sure that there will be many challenges and pitfalls along the way. As I mentioned earlier their most immediate advantage is the movement of money especially in cross border currency transfer. The blockchain technology allows for near real time settlement, times-stamped permanent, single data entry, and verifiable record keeping. However, remaining as fiat currency/tokenized digital currency that is still centralized, in my mind, it is not a clean and total solution. It will still involve a lot of paperwork, double entries and manual audits.

This is a very new development. My opinion is speculative and I would appreciate that you all keep an eye on this subject any post new information as it becomes available. Thanks.  

Sorry guys, and girls! I'm a bit overwhelmed at the moment. Major projects at work and the paramedic unit I run with just won a very prestigious award:

"Public Information Office, August 18

Calvert Advanced Life Support has received notification the department has been selected as the NAEMT’s Volunteer Department of The Year 2015. The award, which is sponsored by Zoll, will be presented at the National Association of Emergency Medical Technicians General Membership Meeting and Awards Presentation on Wednesday, Sept. 16, in Las Vegas, Nevada during EMSworld Expo."

As Chairman of the Board of Directors of that organization, I have been very busy helping prepare for this. We are sending a select group to Vegas to accept the award and attend the conference. My wife (a past Chief of CALS) will be attending and we intend to extend our stay on the west coast to California to visit family and drive the Pacific Coast Highway, something I've always wanted to do.

So, I'll be reading but not posting much till we return later in the month. As for the subject at hand, I think we all realize that commercial interests such as banks, will exploit crypto every way they can now that they realize it's not going away, this is to be expected.

They will also fail in the long run because they have no soul, no real belief in the greater good crypto can do for the worlds less fortunate populations. Its a sad fact of life that for good to exist, there must also be evil. I personally believe good can triumph as long as people believe it can. DNotes stands for good. I think all of us here are fighting for a greater cause than personal wealth and that my friends, is why we will prosper and come out on top.

DNotes best course of action is continuing to do exactly what we are doing now, educating. We must stay the course and continue to bring the message to those who can benefit most and thats not the bankers, it's the ordinary people, the simple folks, the disadvantaged, the isolated and all those who believe the current system is top heavy and imperfect.

So, carry on, keep the torches lit and rally the troupes as needed, we will prevail in the long game.  Smiley




We are very proud of you and your team. Congratulations! I am sure that is well deserved. Enjoy your trip. We will miss you. Highway 1 or Pacific Coast Highway is absolutely a beauty. I have driven on it quite a few times and once with my wife almost the entire route (over 500 + miles) out of 700+ miles. Sunset was amazing at the right spot.

I have been doing quite a bit more thinking about the bank taking advantage of the Blockchain technology to improve their efficiency in the movement or transfer of money. This may actually be a good thing. It will help to legitimize digital currency like DNotes. With mass acceptance decentralized digital currency is far superior to fiat currency, including centralized digital currency like what the bank is trying to do. I am sure one of my future articles for DCEBrief will cover this subject.
1616  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][NOTE]DNotes - DCEBrief Digital Currency Executive Brief Has Launched! on: September 05, 2015, 04:10:09 AM


Congratulations on the launch of DCEBrief.  I haven't learned very much about cryptocurrency, but I'm confident that I am hanging on to a winner.  i get a simple Coles Notes explanation of what's going on here from a friend.   Grin

 How often are new stories written for DCEBrief?

Welcome to DNotes forum. Delighted to see you here. I have read quite a few of your posts at CryptoMoms.

DCEBrief launch is a big success. It has already received great coverage and expected to pick up a lot more in the coming days. We are attempting to publish one article of original content per week. Once it is fairly well established we plan to be doing a lot more. DCEBrief will become a valuable site both for DNotes and our industry.

1617  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][NOTE]DNotes - DCEBrief Digital Currency Executive Brief Has Launched! on: September 04, 2015, 04:19:57 PM
Here comes centralized Digital Currency, I mentioned earlier. This may not be a good thing for the consumers, many bank employees and many of us who are committed to decentralized financial services as an alternative to government/bank controlled currency. Unfortunately, we don't even have an industry association to speak with a united voice. That is just my opinion. What is yours?



itBit Hires Former NYDFS General Counsel Daniel Alter, Pushes Ahead with Bankchain Project

by GIULIO PRISCO on SEPTEMBER 3, 2015 0
https://bitcoinmagazine.com/21845/itbit-hires-former-nydfs-general-counsel-daniel-alter-pushes-ahead-bankchain-project/


In April, Bitcoin Magazine reported that Bitcoin exchange itBit had filed for a banking license in New York. Later in May, itBit was granted a trust charter by the New York Department of Financial Services (NYFDS) under New York State banking law, the first such charter granted to a digital currency company by the NYDFS. ItBit also announced the successful completion of a $25 million Series A funding round.

On September 2, itBit announced the appointments of Daniel “Danny” Alter as the company’s new general counsel and chief compliance officer, and Kim Petry as chief financial officer. Petry was previously CFO of global operations and technology at Broadridge Financial Services and, before that, served as CFO and vice president of global commercial/corporate card payment at American Express.

Alter joined itBit after stepping down in February from his most recent post as general counsel of the New York State Department of Financial Services (NYDFS), where he served as principal counsel and strategic adviser to the New York state superintendent of financial services.

The former New York State Superintendent of Financial Services Benjamin Lawsky left the NYDFS after releasing the controversial Bitlicense regulations for digital currency businesses operating in New York. Lawsky’s move to a consulting business was strongly criticized by the libertarian Cato Institute.

“Because of the contacts he made as a regulator, [Lawsky] can hire himself out to Bitcoin companies wanting to signal to other regulators that they have the approval of the regulatory establishment,” noted Cato Senior Fellow Jim Harper.

It seems likely that Alter’s move to itBit might be criticized in the same grounds.

“The New York State Public Officers law requires that I have a two-year recusal before I can appear before the New York Department of Financial Services on behalf of the company,” said Alter in a pre-emptive statement reported by Reuters. “And it will certainly apply to itBit. I will not step near or have any communications with the New York Department of Financial Services. Those will be handled by outside counsel or qualified compliance people within the company.”

“Between Danny’s deep expertise in financial services and virtual currency regulation and Kim’s demonstrated track record as a successful CFO of global financial organizations, I’m confident that itBit will continue to grow and develop innovative blockchain-based solutions to address the financial industry’s greatest pain points,” said itBit co-founder and CEO Chad Cascarilla. “Danny and Kim possess a deep understanding of how to grow and run a successful business within the regulatory framework of the financial services industry, and their expertise will be invaluable as we work toward the launch of our new permissioned distributed ledger product – Bankchain.”

Bankchain, a new high profile project still held under wraps by itBit, will be a closed, “permissioned blockchain” owned and operated by banks and financial institutions – in other words, a private blockchain without bitcoin and anonymous miners. According to itBit claims, Bankchain will automate, accelerate and simplify post-trade processes across the financial services industry, saving institutions time and money.

Bankchain is “the first consensus-based ledger system exclusively for financial institutions,” states the still very basic Bankchain website. “Bankchain is a new clearing and settlement network that leverages blockchain technology to reimagine how financial institutions execute post-trade. The decentralized network is powered by itBit but fully governed by the member participants that join the platform.”

“[Bankchain] is a proprietary itBit protocol, not blockchain based, but is derived off of blockchain,” itBit head of global operations Steve Wager told Coindesk in August. “We will also not be using bitcoin as the native token; it will be an itBit proprietary token.”

Reddit users strongly criticized the “Sinister Bankchain Project,” but it appears that the trend toward private, permissioned blockchains is here to stay, with strong support expressed, among others, by Accenture and Digital Asset Holdings CEO Blythe Masters.


The itBit / Bank team-up is 100% profit motivated.  None of the savings generated by implementing Bankchain will be passed on to the consumer in the form of reduced fees or lower interest charged.  It really doesn't sound like anything the consumer will be involved in at all, except perhaps a settlement of payments between banks on the customer's exhorbitant interest-loaded credit card balance.

I think we need to separate ourselves, in the public's eye, from what the banks are doing. They are merely using the technology for their own profit.  We, on the other hand, are creating a global currency that everyone worldwide can use, invest in, profit in, conduct business with, and bring stability to the finances of people living with government corruption and runaway inflation.  People from every country, even the ones that appear stable can benefit from a truly decentralized global digital currency.

As far as the banks settling payments from cross border remittances, what are the chances of banks in third world countries trusting these American(?) banks enough to use bankchain tokens?  Or will these poor countries even be invited to the party?



Apologies if this is difficult to read etc, it's one of my 'long posts' where I think of things and get confused about the order I should discuss them, then 'chop and change' sentences around which can make the message harder to follow. These views and 'on the fly' thoughts are my own, and do not necessarily reflect those of DNotes.

To begin I'm not sure I like the idea when regulators and officials take jobs from companies who had been lobbying them.

To use a politically neutral example, who remembers Darleen Druyun, former weapons buyer for the US Air force? Well in 2005 she was jailed for (only) 9 months after pleading guilty to giving Boeing special treatment in a 23.5 billion dollar government contract - of course, after the deal was inked, Druyun was hired by Boeing as a vice-president with an annual salary of 250k. Druyun allowed Boeing to negotiate for an extra 6 billion dollars more than the contract should have been. This kind of hiring of 'career' government officials into highly paid corporate executive roles has been routine for decades. I don't know if Mr Lawsky made the regulations incredibly expensive and difficult to comply with, to the detriment of itBit's competition before he left the NYDFS, but considering that to the best of my knowledge, itBit is still the only exchange to have a banking licence... it kinda stinks of corruption. This could be a big misunderstanding though, and those two regulators may have just joined itBit fair and square, or these two regulators made itBit a 'sure thing' - we may never know. The next question would be that in the event that there was unfair favouritism affird to itBit, is it sensible (risky) to go into business with them should foul-play be uncovered in the future, or do these appointments provide some level of immunity? It will take more time watching how this all plays out.


In regards to the 'bankchain' thing, I've been waiting for something like this to come along for a while. We all expected banks to try to take the technology for their own to improve their settlement payments from overnight to near-instant. I can see lots of problems with itBit's idea - but I presume many customers may prefer joining banks that are members of the 'bankchain' system for faster payments, which could encourage even more banks to join. I don't have any issue with itBit being profit motivated, but re-my point about the regulators passing ridiculously difficult regulations in NY that have turned away nearly all of itBit's competitors... it doesn't sound like they're playing fair game. Again, this may not be the case at all - pending further research and developments.


Of course, ItBit and the banks are still at a disadvantage - they haven't fixed the money, they still use fiat. I could go on and on with various graphs and points (may I point people in the direction of IMZ's crypto kindergarten blog posts on cryptomoms.com forums), but the reality is that fiat is created as debt, which means new money must come into creation to pay for the interest owing on that debt, which is completely unsustainable. World governments are in massive debt crises, and they have all failed to create the next 'economic' bubble that would give a false sense that the 'real' economy isn't in decline.

But why has recovery been unattainable on this occasion?



https://www.quandl.com/data/FRED/DFF-Effective-Federal-Funds-Rate

Take a look at the effective federal funds rate in the link above. The interest rate tends to be lifted by the fed in times of economic boom, and severely lowered in times when the government want to promulgate economic activity, which leads to 'bubbles' (stock bubble, dotcom bubble, housing bubble etc). The chart clearly shows drops in the interest rate in ~1988, ~2001 and ~2007 in line with the decline of each bubble. These low interest rates make borrowing really cheap, and encourage ridiculous investment activities that no sane person would make if interest rates were dictated by the free-market. Currently, the Fed has an effective 0.14 % interest rate, and it has been near zero since ~2010.

The fact that interest rates are still low, is the obvious tell that there has been no 'real' economic recovery. What is worse, is that there is now nothing in the way of 'government tools' to improve this situation - QE has already convoluted the real decline in the US economy, and dropping interest rates any lower would make them go negative. I hardly think anybody would be interested in running a restaurant where they paid customers to come and eat, and I think it would work the same with your bank deposits if you were earning negative interest - It would mean the destruction of the banking system. I could go into this much further, and bring about many other points, but this should suffice for the moment. Basically, crypto currencies have more long-term stable potential than fiat currencies do. Crypto is going to become a more attractive alternative, and quickly.

But DNotes doesn't only have the advantage of sound money - It is a good point to highlight that DNotes is creating a global digital currency that is useful everywhere and holds an equal value worldwide, so there is no requirment no transfer between currencies (i.e. Euro to USD) like with itBit's system - (presuming foreign banks co-operate, or foreign exchange is possible as a service of the banks through the bankchain).
ItBits 'bankchain' simply can not compete on the near-zero transfer cost possible with DNotes and our ecosystem. Not within the same country, and certainly not internationally. If ItBit does try to compete, the banks will not be pleased to forego all of their processing fee's (income) and leave the bankchain. If they don't try to compete on processing fees, then DNotes holds a competitive advantage and consumers would get more value using DNotes for transfer. ItBit's strategy could like like any number of things, but one could be that they work to get adopted by the banking system, and quickly, then proclaim victory and hope everybody else gives up - including crypto industries. They would come up with some slogan to entice banks like "Bitcoin brought instant payment transfers, banking uses 'real' money. ItBit brings you both". ItBit may simultaneously remain one of the only exchanges where crypto-USD transfers are permitted by the US Gov through banking licences, especially if the NY regulations are adopted in other states (which looks likely). ItBit could continue to accommodate the 'niche' crypto market and make extra profits as a monopoly / oligopoly player to supplement their 'bankchain' income - which would be a great way to hedge their bets in the short term.

Normally I try to avoid speculating this far ahead because there are too many assumptions made along the way. Changing one assumption, would then change the 'next step'. The above is but one potential path we could see.

Chase, I have no idea if banks in developing nations would be invited to the party. I imagine it would be the US banks that wouldn't want to deal with those in developing nations. Assuming any banks even wanted to use ItBit's platform, I doubt the US government would allow the banking system to shift from predominantly being traded in USD, to being traded in "ItBit tokens"... I think DNotes and digital currencies in general are safer from government trying to shut down their ecosystems. It would be much more likely that if this 'bankchain' thing is successful, the US government would buy the rights to it, then force all banks to trade using their own 'issued' tokens by the "BankFederalReserveChain". That way the US government would be able to spy much more easily on every banking transaction, and all but make physical cash illegal...

Of course, at that juncture, who knows how many everyday people would have decided they would prefer to use decentralized crypto's like DNotes?

Anyway, hopefully it sparks an interesting conversation.


Thanks TeeGee, I will comment on a small portion of it. I suspect there will be many more niche chains and tokens to come, targeting banks/companies/data/contracts/nations and a plethora of other things. Some will become corrupt, centralized, convoluted, or just fail to gain adoption and some will be successful. However, I believe there will always be a need for a global digital currency for all of these things to pair, and essentially allow them to work in a global/national marketplace. I also believe there is a need for a trusted, positive driving force behind the global digital currency, trying to move things in the right direction without the possibility of direct control. Hence DNotes.


Excellent discussion, but where is RJF when we needed him? LOL I know that he is a busy guy but I am sure that he will have some good inputs.

I agree that there will be many different versions of "bankchain" and small banks will be left out for a long time. Massive integration is never easy and I am sure that there will be many challenges and pitfalls along the way. As I mentioned earlier their most immediate advantage is the movement of money especially in cross border currency transfer. The blockchain technology allows for near real time settlement, times-stamped permanent, single data entry, and verifiable record keeping. However, remaining as fiat currency/tokenized digital currency that is still centralized, in my mind, it is not a clean and total solution. It will still involve a lot of paperwork, double entries and manual audits.

This is a very new development. My opinion is speculative and I would appreciate that you all keep an eye on this subject any post new information as it becomes available. Thanks.  
1618  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][NOTE]DNotes - DCEBrief Digital Currency Executive Brief Has Launched! on: September 04, 2015, 03:21:20 PM
Here comes centralized Digital Currency, I mentioned earlier. This may not be a good thing for the consumers, many bank employees and many of us who are committed to decentralized financial services as an alternative to government/bank controlled currency. Unfortunately, we don't even have an industry association to speak with a united voice. That is just my opinion. What is yours?



itBit Hires Former NYDFS General Counsel Daniel Alter, Pushes Ahead with Bankchain Project

by GIULIO PRISCO on SEPTEMBER 3, 2015 0
https://bitcoinmagazine.com/21845/itbit-hires-former-nydfs-general-counsel-daniel-alter-pushes-ahead-bankchain-project/


In April, Bitcoin Magazine reported that Bitcoin exchange itBit had filed for a banking license in New York. Later in May, itBit was granted a trust charter by the New York Department of Financial Services (NYFDS) under New York State banking law, the first such charter granted to a digital currency company by the NYDFS. ItBit also announced the successful completion of a $25 million Series A funding round.

On September 2, itBit announced the appointments of Daniel “Danny” Alter as the company’s new general counsel and chief compliance officer, and Kim Petry as chief financial officer. Petry was previously CFO of global operations and technology at Broadridge Financial Services and, before that, served as CFO and vice president of global commercial/corporate card payment at American Express.

Alter joined itBit after stepping down in February from his most recent post as general counsel of the New York State Department of Financial Services (NYDFS), where he served as principal counsel and strategic adviser to the New York state superintendent of financial services.

The former New York State Superintendent of Financial Services Benjamin Lawsky left the NYDFS after releasing the controversial Bitlicense regulations for digital currency businesses operating in New York. Lawsky’s move to a consulting business was strongly criticized by the libertarian Cato Institute.

“Because of the contacts he made as a regulator, [Lawsky] can hire himself out to Bitcoin companies wanting to signal to other regulators that they have the approval of the regulatory establishment,” noted Cato Senior Fellow Jim Harper.

It seems likely that Alter’s move to itBit might be criticized in the same grounds.

“The New York State Public Officers law requires that I have a two-year recusal before I can appear before the New York Department of Financial Services on behalf of the company,” said Alter in a pre-emptive statement reported by Reuters. “And it will certainly apply to itBit. I will not step near or have any communications with the New York Department of Financial Services. Those will be handled by outside counsel or qualified compliance people within the company.”

“Between Danny’s deep expertise in financial services and virtual currency regulation and Kim’s demonstrated track record as a successful CFO of global financial organizations, I’m confident that itBit will continue to grow and develop innovative blockchain-based solutions to address the financial industry’s greatest pain points,” said itBit co-founder and CEO Chad Cascarilla. “Danny and Kim possess a deep understanding of how to grow and run a successful business within the regulatory framework of the financial services industry, and their expertise will be invaluable as we work toward the launch of our new permissioned distributed ledger product – Bankchain.”

Bankchain, a new high profile project still held under wraps by itBit, will be a closed, “permissioned blockchain” owned and operated by banks and financial institutions – in other words, a private blockchain without bitcoin and anonymous miners. According to itBit claims, Bankchain will automate, accelerate and simplify post-trade processes across the financial services industry, saving institutions time and money.

Bankchain is “the first consensus-based ledger system exclusively for financial institutions,” states the still very basic Bankchain website. “Bankchain is a new clearing and settlement network that leverages blockchain technology to reimagine how financial institutions execute post-trade. The decentralized network is powered by itBit but fully governed by the member participants that join the platform.”

“[Bankchain] is a proprietary itBit protocol, not blockchain based, but is derived off of blockchain,” itBit head of global operations Steve Wager told Coindesk in August. “We will also not be using bitcoin as the native token; it will be an itBit proprietary token.”

Reddit users strongly criticized the “Sinister Bankchain Project,” but it appears that the trend toward private, permissioned blockchains is here to stay, with strong support expressed, among others, by Accenture and Digital Asset Holdings CEO Blythe Masters.


The itBit / Bank team-up is 100% profit motivated.  None of the savings generated by implementing Bankchain will be passed on to the consumer in the form of reduced fees or lower interest charged.  It really doesn't sound like anything the consumer will be involved in at all, except perhaps a settlement of payments between banks on the customer's exhorbitant interest-loaded credit card balance.

I think we need to separate ourselves, in the public's eye, from what the banks are doing. They are merely using the technology for their own profit.  We, on the other hand, are creating a global currency that everyone worldwide can use, invest in, profit in, conduct business with, and bring stability to the finances of people living with government corruption and runaway inflation.  People from every country, even the ones that appear stable can benefit from a truly decentralized global digital currency.

As far as the banks settling payments from cross border remittances, what are the chances of banks in third world countries trusting these American(?) banks enough to use bankchain tokens?  Or will these poor countries even be invited to the party?



Those are excellent points. I wish more people in our industry can see it this clearly. Our industry has to step up to clarify what this is all about and not let the bankers diminish the immense value and superiority of decentralized digital currency when mass global acceptance is achieved.

I totally agree that “we need to separate ourselves, in the public's eye, from what the banks are doing. They are merely using the technology for their own profit.  We, on the other hand, are creating a global currency that everyone worldwide can use, invest in, profit in, conduct business with, and bring stability to the finances of people living with government corruption and runaway inflation.” (Chase)

The banking systems and fiat currencies are here to stay. The blockchain/bankchain technology will drastically modernized the movement of money and record keeping leading to the elimination of a very large number of jobs; the massive disruption many in the industry predicted. It will be much harder for our industry to dominate the remittance market. The banks have the advantage of on-ramp and off-ramp infrastructure already in place.

This new development actually strengthens DNotes long–term global mass acceptance business model, inclusive of our own ecosystem which will include our own bank and partner banks. We have always anticipated that the bank will have to adapt and for DNotes to be truly successful we have to be able to interface with the banking world. I will be keeping a very close eye on this.  


Won't it be cool if eventually we can come up with our version of "bankchain" to interface with our system and the banking world? I am certain that we can come up with a cleaner solution and much more trustworthy on a global scale. There is no rush though. Just thinking out loud at this time.
1619  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][NOTE]DNotes - DCEBrief Digital Currency Executive Brief Has Launched! on: September 04, 2015, 02:27:13 AM
Here comes centralized Digital Currency, I mentioned earlier. This may not be a good thing for the consumers, many bank employees and many of us who are committed to decentralized financial services as an alternative to government/bank controlled currency. Unfortunately, we don't even have an industry association to speak with a united voice. That is just my opinion. What is yours?



itBit Hires Former NYDFS General Counsel Daniel Alter, Pushes Ahead with Bankchain Project

by GIULIO PRISCO on SEPTEMBER 3, 2015 0
https://bitcoinmagazine.com/21845/itbit-hires-former-nydfs-general-counsel-daniel-alter-pushes-ahead-bankchain-project/


In April, Bitcoin Magazine reported that Bitcoin exchange itBit had filed for a banking license in New York. Later in May, itBit was granted a trust charter by the New York Department of Financial Services (NYFDS) under New York State banking law, the first such charter granted to a digital currency company by the NYDFS. ItBit also announced the successful completion of a $25 million Series A funding round.

On September 2, itBit announced the appointments of Daniel “Danny” Alter as the company’s new general counsel and chief compliance officer, and Kim Petry as chief financial officer. Petry was previously CFO of global operations and technology at Broadridge Financial Services and, before that, served as CFO and vice president of global commercial/corporate card payment at American Express.

Alter joined itBit after stepping down in February from his most recent post as general counsel of the New York State Department of Financial Services (NYDFS), where he served as principal counsel and strategic adviser to the New York state superintendent of financial services.

The former New York State Superintendent of Financial Services Benjamin Lawsky left the NYDFS after releasing the controversial Bitlicense regulations for digital currency businesses operating in New York. Lawsky’s move to a consulting business was strongly criticized by the libertarian Cato Institute.

“Because of the contacts he made as a regulator, [Lawsky] can hire himself out to Bitcoin companies wanting to signal to other regulators that they have the approval of the regulatory establishment,” noted Cato Senior Fellow Jim Harper.

It seems likely that Alter’s move to itBit might be criticized in the same grounds.

“The New York State Public Officers law requires that I have a two-year recusal before I can appear before the New York Department of Financial Services on behalf of the company,” said Alter in a pre-emptive statement reported by Reuters. “And it will certainly apply to itBit. I will not step near or have any communications with the New York Department of Financial Services. Those will be handled by outside counsel or qualified compliance people within the company.”

“Between Danny’s deep expertise in financial services and virtual currency regulation and Kim’s demonstrated track record as a successful CFO of global financial organizations, I’m confident that itBit will continue to grow and develop innovative blockchain-based solutions to address the financial industry’s greatest pain points,” said itBit co-founder and CEO Chad Cascarilla. “Danny and Kim possess a deep understanding of how to grow and run a successful business within the regulatory framework of the financial services industry, and their expertise will be invaluable as we work toward the launch of our new permissioned distributed ledger product – Bankchain.”

Bankchain, a new high profile project still held under wraps by itBit, will be a closed, “permissioned blockchain” owned and operated by banks and financial institutions – in other words, a private blockchain without bitcoin and anonymous miners. According to itBit claims, Bankchain will automate, accelerate and simplify post-trade processes across the financial services industry, saving institutions time and money.

Bankchain is “the first consensus-based ledger system exclusively for financial institutions,” states the still very basic Bankchain website. “Bankchain is a new clearing and settlement network that leverages blockchain technology to reimagine how financial institutions execute post-trade. The decentralized network is powered by itBit but fully governed by the member participants that join the platform.”

“[Bankchain] is a proprietary itBit protocol, not blockchain based, but is derived off of blockchain,” itBit head of global operations Steve Wager told Coindesk in August. “We will also not be using bitcoin as the native token; it will be an itBit proprietary token.”

Reddit users strongly criticized the “Sinister Bankchain Project,” but it appears that the trend toward private, permissioned blockchains is here to stay, with strong support expressed, among others, by Accenture and Digital Asset Holdings CEO Blythe Masters.


The itBit / Bank team-up is 100% profit motivated.  None of the savings generated by implementing Bankchain will be passed on to the consumer in the form of reduced fees or lower interest charged.  It really doesn't sound like anything the consumer will be involved in at all, except perhaps a settlement of payments between banks on the customer's exhorbitant interest-loaded credit card balance.

I think we need to separate ourselves, in the public's eye, from what the banks are doing. They are merely using the technology for their own profit.  We, on the other hand, are creating a global currency that everyone worldwide can use, invest in, profit in, conduct business with, and bring stability to the finances of people living with government corruption and runaway inflation.  People from every country, even the ones that appear stable can benefit from a truly decentralized global digital currency.

As far as the banks settling payments from cross border remittances, what are the chances of banks in third world countries trusting these American(?) banks enough to use bankchain tokens?  Or will these poor countries even be invited to the party?



Those are excellent points. I wish more people in our industry can see it this clearly. Our industry has to step up to clarify what this is all about and not let the bankers diminish the immense value and superiority of decentralized digital currency when mass global acceptance is achieved.

I totally agree that “we need to separate ourselves, in the public's eye, from what the banks are doing. They are merely using the technology for their own profit.  We, on the other hand, are creating a global currency that everyone worldwide can use, invest in, profit in, conduct business with, and bring stability to the finances of people living with government corruption and runaway inflation.” (Chase)

The banking systems and fiat currencies are here to stay. The blockchain/bankchain technology will drastically modernized the movement of money and record keeping leading to the elimination of a very large number of jobs; the massive disruption many in the industry predicted. It will be much harder for our industry to dominate the remittance market. The banks have the advantage of on-ramp and off-ramp infrastructure already in place.

This new development actually strengthens DNotes long–term global mass acceptance business model, inclusive of our own ecosystem which will include our own bank and partner banks. We have always anticipated that the bank will have to adapt and for DNotes to be truly successful we have to be able to interface with the banking world. I will be keeping a very close eye on this. 
1620  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][NOTE]DNotes - DCEBrief Digital Currency Executive Brief Has Launched! on: September 03, 2015, 06:58:55 PM

There was a ton of work put into this press release and it shows. The way the article was written will lead the reader to do further investigation, exactly what we want. Because the more they research the industry, the more they will learn of the "DNotes Difference" and steps that were taken by the core team to differentiate ourselves from the competition. Everyone who contributed deserves a pat on the back for a job well done.

Great observation, CryptoBrooker. That is very true. We have put a lot of work into it and it also  reflects the enormous time and resources we have spent building our ecosystem. There will remain to be many coins and that is a healthy environment, but there must be a trusted global digital currency for everyone to participated. After reading the above article regarding itBit centralized token (digital currency) for the banks, I am even more certain that DNotes is absolutely on the right track. I hope more of our industry will begin to see that soon. There must be a united front with sufficient united self-interest and leadership to protect and promote the decentralized spirit of digital currency. It will not be easy, but I am confident that we will prevail.
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