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16041  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Bitwala aims to be a bank on: February 26, 2018, 04:24:23 PM
Yeah, necessity is the mother of invention, isn't it? The Visa saga must have been too much to deal with so they opted to go for their own banking license. Seems like this will be the new way to go for all these old giants of payment gateways, and with neo banks all the rage now, we'll see plenty more coming along with their own "whitelabel" debit card solutions. Can't be happening quick enough, competition needs to be fiercer cause I'm happy with the solutions I have already but wouldn't mind options to keep things (and fees) interesting.

Overall, I like the idea itself and this is what might push crypto adoption further eventually, but I am more worried about how external parties will react to this service, because they certainly do depend on external parties quite a lot. MasterCard & Co are known to be pretty hostile towards anything having to do with crypto, so it will be interesting to see if they can get it working to begin with. If they don't even manage to settle basic license agreements with external parties, it won't be working at all.

I have been wondering if there's any direct challenger to Visa and MC - every debit card solution eventually relies on their systems. We've had a blockchain-based tech to displace Swift already (Ripple), why not something to displace Visa/MC and co?
16042  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Exchange with lowest BTC withdrawal Fee? on: February 26, 2018, 02:49:29 PM
Thanks I just want to clarify if its really 0.005 or 0.0005?
Yes there's no guarantee, they can run with our funds or just declare they been hacked whatsoever, so are you saying btc wallets is safer than to store btc on exchanges? Do you know some exchange that we can adjust the tx fee like bit-z? I think majority of the exchanges has fix fee.

It's 0.0005... or 50,000 satoshi if that's easier. I was thinking they'd set it back down to their old 10k sats fee but I guess we're going to see them hold on to that for a while, at least perhaps until they get on board with Segwit.

Of course storing on your own wallet is safer than on any exchange (with the exception of decentralised ones where they also don't store your private keys)... you should be the only one able to access your stored funds.

As I mentioned, there are some sites that allow fee adjustment, like the one I mentioned (CG). That's not an exchange though.
16043  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Am working on a Bitcoin security-related research proposal on: February 26, 2018, 01:15:20 PM
Perhaps move this to Technical Discussion section.

Since you're not doing any tests, then your starting point, like on any topic, should be to read up. Start with the most obvious: the whitepaper: https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf.

There've been lots of papers discussing Bitcoin privacy, particularly related to so-called blockchain forensics, used by enforcement agencies to track down (with great success) illicit activity using Bitcoin via address/tx association and following the blockchain trail. Here's a very recent study: https://cdn2.hubspot.net/hubfs/3883533/downloads/Bitcoin%20Laundering.pdf

Here's another from last year co-authored by Maxwell: https://eprint.iacr.org/2017/1066.pdf looks at improving Bitcoin privacy. There was another by same co-author, can't recall where though.

Lighter stuff: you might want to read about several techniques used to enhance Bitcoin privacy, including mixing/tumbling, certain basic behaviours.
16044  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin affects students' performance in school on: February 26, 2018, 10:05:21 AM
Not sure how you became a teacher since these days they require at least a high school graduation from applicants even in developing countries. Your correlation makes the most basic mistakes that wouldn't let you graduate high school. Last year, a new cinema opened in a small town in my state, and when public exam results were released recently with a drop in average performance, yup, a letter to the editor in a local paper blamed the cinema.

Teaching Bitcoin to kids, or letting them use it, will have no more or less effect than any other new tech you show them. If anything, the really interested ones might go on to do a lot of reading that'll help them in their critical skills later on in higher education.
16045  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: February 25, 2018, 07:46:14 PM
Tottenham managed to get 3 points today with late goal from who other than Harry Kane. He now has 20 goals from last 15 away games. Unreal statistics. To be fair he wasn't as clinical as he usually is, should have scored at least two goals before the wining one.

I feel a little bit sad for Crystal Palace. They defended well, especially when you take into account they were missing 12 players.


Damn Kane, every time Salah levels, he pips him by another game. Kane's actually the third most clinical strike, to be honest, just behind Salah and then Aguero (chances converted to goals ratio). I was definitely feeling that CP would feel hard done by. I predicted a 1-1 draw for them and "almost" got it right.

I knew Willian'd score, but Mourinho does have a way of overcoming these types of matches. The Chelsea faithful must be all in hiding now to lose to their former special one.

16046  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Exchange with lowest BTC withdrawal Fee? on: February 25, 2018, 06:28:08 PM
Thanks for the information. I see a lot of people asking for this and it's nice to have a list.

For those who think that exchanges are currently charging a high rate for withdrawals, you'd be absolutely right. However exchanges will usually increase fees when the network load is big and it's affecting the transaction fees in a negative way, and don't decrease the fee or only decrease a little in a long period of time when the network load goes down like right now.

Don't use exchanges as a wallet. In fact if you just used a wallet right now, you'd be looking at upwards of 90% of savings on transaction fees. Most of the fees are pretty reasonable when put into context the tx fees a month or two ago.

Yeah, anything upwards of 50k satoshi has been murderous for people using exchanges as wallets - or any site service, for that matter, which charges a fixed fee rate. Worst still, very few of these actually use proper fees when processing withdrawals, and during spikes in network congestion, expect them to skimp on fees (not even putting the fee charged to users to full use).

That said, for a very long time I used Poloniex to accept small payments, and then withdrew them to my own wallet when they reached a certain amount. They've always had a 0.0001 BTC fee, which increased recently to 0.005. Still was reasonable for most times and a steal for consolidating multiple inputs. So maybe add that to your list, OP?

Of course, it should be said exchanges can disappear with your funds at any time...
16047  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Starting to learn a new job in bitcoin forum on: February 25, 2018, 02:46:29 PM
Think you can see here that everyone recommends a few good ways to start off:
1. Gain experience doing the work you intend to do. Either start off offering free services or take the low-paid ones to build a portfolio.
2. Gain a reputation for hard work - usually your forum account here speaks for itself. Contribute to discussions, take a bit of time to research and give constructive feedback.
3. This is what no one's really said yet. Be open with yourself and ask if you're really as good at what you do as you think you are. If you're not, then find out what you're good at and look for opportunities using the skills you have. Content writing isn't actually for everyone.
16048  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Choosing Between Payment Gateways on: February 25, 2018, 02:35:47 PM
Hi guys.. I want some advice in terms of which one to as a payment gateway. I’m mainly looking for cheap fees & easy installation. I’ve been chatting to paybear.io (on their telegram channel), they seem to be fairly new to the industry but also have really cheap fees... Anyone already using them?  Otherwise, what other providers are there that are worth checking out?

Paybear does seem like a professional site. Their interface looks great to work with as well.

They are indeed relatively new. I have no idea how much you can trust them with at this stage. Haven't seen any negative reviews around though.

Coinpayments and Shapeshift are two of the largest and most trusted payment gateways. Though shapshift doesn't technically allow you to store funds with them, but only serves as a altcoin -> bitcoin converter. Coinpayments has a lot more flexibility and there's a range of things that you can do with them, including storing funds in their wallets. Bitpay on the other hand is more working with fiat type of site.

Up to you, do some research on your own part. But these are the main ones.

Shapeshift is convenient but they have pretty hefty spreads, so I only use that as a last resort. Coinpayments is what I'd recommend as a new-ish service that seems to be gaining reputation. As a user, I've used them without hitches, and as an escrow service, I'm pretty happy with how they've managed that for me on two occassions. They've also got a sig campaign here with a reputable manager, so I'd say that's another vote of confidence.

BitPay I no longer use, their invoice system is just too tricky with a short payment window. Currently workable with low mempool but I wouldn't like to run into issues when transactions start to flood back in.

Here's a creative alternative, which I've used: using a casino account with inbuilt exchange supporting multiple cryptos. It does require you to trust the service of course, and probably a roundabout way of being able to switch between crypto to pay someone in an alt but I've done so happily with crypto-games.net. Much lower spread (about 2%) on instant exchange.
16049  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why the Bitcoin price is not going to fall below a certain price point on: February 25, 2018, 11:40:38 AM
Update:
Secretive Chinese bitcoin mining company may have made as much money as Nvidia last year

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Based on conservative estimates of gross margin of 75 percent and operating margin of 65 percent,
Bernstein analysts calculate that Beijing-based Bitmain made $3 billion to $4 billion in operating profits in 2017.

This is a new CNBC article that shares this estimate of how much money Bitmain has made in 2017.
Now remember that 10-20M $ are enough to prop up the BTC price temporarily and you can see
that they have a huge warchest to do whatever is necessary to keep up the price. And this is only
a single company that is not even only a mining company nowadays.

If you think they will just let their business that generates 3-4 billion $ / year in profits fail and close their operations
you are completely delusional.

Bitcoin won´t fall below the average cost of mining a single Bitcoin and everyone who makes predictions
like BTC at 1000 $ or lower doesn´t understand the incentives in play here.



Somehow missed this, I see you made this post a couple of weeks back. Now, I've always felt that miners play at least a small role in propping up Bitcoin prices - at least in the very act of selling the bitcoins they generate. If the overhead calculations are correct, then they would need to put up more than half of the coins they generate on the market for selling daily. I suspect that this is a lot less - a lot of other factors aren't taken into account (BTC isn't also the only coin mined).

But temper this: last year, when the price really rose, was also the year that saw a lot of new entrants into the mining industry - major players like Bitmain are not increasing, but losing their majority hashpower. They can't do much on their own ($20m is as you say only a temporary measure and this warchest is not liquid) and we've seen even post NYA that miners actually aren't the collective force we thought they might be.

16050  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcointalk English Premier League pool betting Discussion Thread on: February 25, 2018, 08:37:49 AM
Yeah this round is looking extremely difficult to predict correct scores and results so I did an experiment in this round which will make me a king with many points or totally ruin me with 20 or less points. After this round only 10 to finish so it is becoming tight.

Edit: My experiment failed miserably with only 10 points from Liverpool today, I guess will be number 6-7 in the standings when week ends.

Yeah, same here. 20 points from the Liverpool and . I backed all the underdogs (according to bookie odds) to win, except for Liverpool (my usual 3-0) and Brighton (I predicted 2-1). Newcastle made me smile (I predicted 2-0) but it was not to be, not even 10 surprise points as they eventually drew 2-2.

If I HAD stuck to previous weeks strategy of picking unexpected 1-1 draws instead, I'd have hit it on Leicester and Burnley. What the hell, right?

Stephencurry and Betadviser did well. So I might as well gamble on today's two games, favouring a low/no scoring draw at Palace (come on Benteke!) and Willian to continue his hot streak to beat Utd 2-0.
16051  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2018 Winter Olympics on: February 24, 2018, 07:37:29 PM
Hello! I was just talking about the Korean events. My own personal favourite crypto bookies haven't really picked up on it, but Nitrogensports does have a decent offering, the main events are all there: skiing, hockey, even curling (yeah, I know, but it's the only sports there I sort of really understand haha). For men's curling, I'm going to omit Canada (favourites to win) and go for a three-way even ML bet on Sweden @3.0, Switzerland @13.0 and Norway @15. If Sweden win, and they've got a good chance, I don't lose any money, but if the Swiss or Norwegians win, easy x10.

Canada's hockey looks good @5.3 too...

Well, well, no one would have guessed US to win their first gold with the curling event. I lost all my bets on Sweden, Swiss, and Norway... guess it always pays off to pick one crazy underdog in the US, I just never saw it coming. Anyone know what the odds must have been for them? Wouldn't be surprised if it was even 100+.

Germany even knocked out Canada in ice hockey, so glad I didn't decide to take that bet. They were at @60 odds to win so you bet there'll be plenty of Germans looking forward to the last game. OAR in the final too, so I'm really wondering if I should take these kind of tourneys more seriously next time!
16052  Economy / Speculation / Re: [Poll] A Dead Cat? on: February 24, 2018, 07:07:45 PM
Cat's not dead. Probably still got all nine lives left in fact. For Bitcoin to start losing one of those lives, we'd need to see it seriously threaten prices of over a year ago - and that's below $1.5k. No doubt there'll be people believing this could still happen, but it'll be a stretch of imagination to see in in 2018. Crystal ball doesn't seem to allow looking beyond the horizon, but there's got to be a lot of things that need to happen for the cat to get skinned the first time.

What'll it be? Alts finally gaining supremacy? That won't be until two or three years when all these utility tokens MAYBE see some serious adoption and use beyond the confines of trading. Countries simply cracking down? Not in the current climate of governments warming up to blockchain and crypto, eager to forget the hurt of the last financial crisis.
16053  Economy / Speculation / Re: As BTC hovers around $10K, is it gathering momentum for another round of uptrend on: February 24, 2018, 05:18:17 PM
In all honesty, I don't see any reason for the market to rocket up any time soon. In that regard, I would probably be a little more conservative when it comes to the slow weeks and probably months we still have ahead of us. These times are great for people looking to accumulate coins over a longer period of time around more or less the same levels. By the time the market is ready to take off, you will have enough coins ready to benefit from the next boost that might be related to either more Segwit adoption, or even LN. I personally consider the latter to be more of a trigger that will lift this market up to the next level. More future markets won't do it, an ETF probably won't do it, so it has to be LN one way or another.

Yeah, even the rumour mongers at the usual Merkle/CCN etc hideouts can't seem to get anything juicy on their plates these past few weeks. Just the recycling of same stories, clarification of previously reported happenings. All threads that are running on their last legs. If I had to guess, there are some quiet undercurrents that a lot of ICOs from last year will be dealing with, and with GDPR implementation coming up in just over 2 months, there might be quite a bit of scrambling before some major announcement from continental watchdogs.

That's primed for a May/Spring movement either way, but yeah, there's really nothing to pressure the price away from 10k, think Bitcoin's really sprouting roots out here now. I'm ready to be wrong though. Perhaps regulation won't be as impactful this year.

SW and LN will likely take a lot longer than we're expecting... end of the year or autumn even. And that... that will really bring back some of the lost herd.
16054  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: February 24, 2018, 04:59:26 PM
I have a bit of confidence in Liverpool now. They've just got back from a nice weekend break (Klopp gave his main players that since we didn't have FA Cup worries) and will be raring to take out some of their kicks back on West Ham. Odds aren't good for betting though, but I put a tiny bet on Liverpoool over 3.5 goals at a nice doubler.

I'm taking a few risks t oday on betting:
1. Newcastle ML bet @3.87 should be interesting as they're buoyant from crashing Man Utd's party last weekend.
2. Burnley ML @ 3.1x
3. Swansea ML @ 4.22

Just one win out of the three will return a small 3% profit at least.
They are killing West Ham with a 4-1 score with a couple of minutes left and you were also right about NewCastle.
They have been leading throughout the entire game and I am sure they will punch a win in for their match.
Burnley I've been watching and they have done nothing up until now. They might be looking at a draw.
Swansea is getting their behinds handed to them without a goal as they are the highest odds of those you picked so I didn't expect them to get close to a win in this game.

Talk about sucker punches, nothing quite like the Premier League in terms of goals scored in the dying minutes. Newcastle will really feel like they lost two points but credit to them for going for the win, Mourinho was right when he said they play for their lives... I was just a few minutes away from claiming a nice win, but as it turns out all my ML bets for today didn't pan out for the underdogs.

Liverpool got a nice win, nice strategy for Moyes to put in the sub Antonio, Liverpool do have a way of forgetting to mark new guys for the first few minutes, if anyone notices they need a bit of time to adjust their zonal markings. But the Terrific Three all getting on the scoresheet again, I'm not too upset.
16055  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: February 24, 2018, 01:10:59 PM
Liverpool will need to beat West Ham tomorrow in the early match tomorrow.
This game will get them out of the dog house with their fans as I expected more from them in their last outing against this very same team on Jan 27th.
It was a close one but they did not have it in them to finish off the game with a draw or a win.
But now that they are on a roll with a couple of fantastic wins under their belts against Porto and SouthHampton,
I can not imagine why they could not put away West Ham with the very same ferocity as they had in those past two games as well. Smiley

I have a bit of confidence in Liverpool now. They've just got back from a nice weekend break (Klopp gave his main players that since we didn't have FA Cup worries) and will be raring to take out some of their kicks back on West Ham. Odds aren't good for betting though, but I put a tiny bet on Liverpoool over 3.5 goals at a nice doubler.

I'm taking a few risks t oday on betting:
1. Newcastle ML bet @3.87 should be interesting as they're buoyant from crashing Man Utd's party last weekend.
2. Burnley ML @ 3.1x
3. Swansea ML @ 4.22

Just one win out of the three will return a small 3% profit at least.
16056  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2018-02-24] The Public Will Decide Cryptocurrencies’ Future: Malaysia’s Central on: February 24, 2018, 08:40:53 AM
Interesting that the central bank started off by relating cryptocurrency to "investment", after at least 4 years of already having it on the agenda as a means of payment first, but I suppose that's reflective of all the queries they must be getting from the public about whether "investing" in Bitcoin is legitimate. At least it is one of the few banks that recognise and state Bitcoin benefits as a means of payment (though fails to specify why exactly it is different from others in that it's p2p and trustless).

Note that the bank governor very seldom acts independently of the current political regime. It will be how the ruling party views Bitcoin that eventually decides (or not) if Bitcoin will ever have a status there.
16057  Economy / Gambling / Re: BitDice New Design Feedback Request on: February 23, 2018, 05:43:43 PM
-  The animations you think will make initial loading of the sites low ? Could be a turn off if on  slow internet connections website loads extremely slow.
-  Honestly,on opening the website it doesn't give the feels of a "Gambling Website".On the first visit,it kinda looked like a games store.
-  The theme is based on some anime characters,does that have anything relevant or just random stuff ?
-  I feel there is too much on the same page.

I'm leaning towards Patatas here. I know the major demographic of most traditional online gambling, especially leisure gamblers, means that graphics and attention-grabbing images will be important to pull in the crowds, specially if you're going for the mobile market... but I wonder if crypto gamblers are a little less concerned with graphics than with speed. Every site I play at: loading is an issue especially with mobile data access. Maybe I'm getting too used to dice-game sites and how they look, so I already have expectations.

Unless the images are a significant part of branding... I'd tone down and aim straight for the heart of BitDice... highlight the flagship product, hook the crypto gambler in 2 seconds, not 5 while images load.
16058  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 10 years and no country has approved Bitcoin ?? on: February 23, 2018, 02:01:34 PM
Bitcoin was launched in 2007. It's 10 years and still no country has approved Bitcoin ??   Huh

and in 2018, 2nd richest man "Warren Buffet" said "bitcoin will end up badly"

Bitcoin does not need approval from any country. It does not need Warren Buffet's approval. That is perhaps one of the most overlooked aspects of Bitcoin. It specifically sought to make approval redundant. You never need to trust anyone or any country to use Bitcoin. It never seeks to force itself on anyone. Using it has always been and continues to be voluntary.

Are you sure? No country has approved/legalized it? Think about Japan who are one of the most progressive nations of the world, has already legalized crypto currency. You can now pay tax using bitcoin in Arizona, USA. Even European union didn't say no to Cryptocurrency, they are indeed maintaining a positive stance towards Cryptocurrency. The latest addition to this list is Israel who had legalized Cryptocurrency and imposed 15-25% tax rate very recently.

There are countries like Canada who are strictly against ICOs but generally positive about cryptos. India neither banned it nor legalized it, they have taken the midway. So majority of the countries are not negative about bitcoin.

Israel is the first county to adopt Cryptocurrency in 2018 and I am sure a lot of other countries will join the party this year.
Add Switzerland to the list of authorities (at least in some municipals) who've begun accepting Bitcoin as tax payments since last year. Not to mention you've always been able to buy tickets for state-run public transport there with Bitcoin.

Add Vanuatu to the list of countries who accept Bitcoin for citizenship.

I could go on, others probably will. OP has to learn to use Google at least.
16059  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin is Dropping, and Experts Can't Agree Why on: February 23, 2018, 10:50:44 AM
i am interested to see how this will turn out to be like but so far we are having higher highs and higher lows which indicates a slow rise. and i don't see $6000 be repeated if this trend continues.

Yeah, I actually missed out on the 11700-12000 range, after delaying a much-needed sell for over a week, and being forced to do it today means I lost out on about 15%, but it's really good to see that the lows are getting much higher now. I know it's only short term and in the end I would have liquidated just as much today as more than a week ago, but because I'm lining up a few more sells over March, this kind of behaviour is pleasing.

I won't be surprised if Bitcoin tests 6k again soon and it'll have many chances to do just that before Spring fully arrives. Now that the regulatory movements are being clarified, and newcomers have seen indeed that short term profit taking is possible with Bitcoin's insistence on volatility, the volume across the board seems to be approaching levels that encouraged last year's boom

ATH this year is not unlikely, but I'd really like for Bitcoin to stay firmly above 10k for more than two or three months before feeling comfortable to readjust my "psychological" price of Bitcoin... which actually is still above $5k. Call me pessimist, but I like being proven wrong with Bitcoin!
16060  Economy / Speculation / Re: Debunking the waste of energy argument against Bitcoin on: February 23, 2018, 10:08:50 AM
I agree that the issue of Bitcoin's energy use is overblown hugely out of proportion - first of all because it isn't a waste if it serves a useful purpose. And securing the Bitcoin network has become a very useful purpose in itself. Never mind its implications for modern finance.

I also agree that Bitcoin's energy consumption is unfairly measured, unfairly compared, and unfairly valued. There are just so many factors to take into account other than simple "txs per unit of energy". At least with Bitcoin, you can actually more accurately quantify how much it costs to conduct commerce in the Bitcoin ecosystem. But look at alternatives like Visa (the favourite comparison)... you can't easily put a figure to how much it costs to conduct their commerce. You can estimate salaries of Visa employees, overheads for brick and mortar establishments, even budgets lines for marketing, for security, for brand, R&D, maintenance. None of the comparisons take these other cost-bearing aspects into consideration.

But I also agree that energy consumption should be considered - and it is actually an issue that's been debated even from four, five years ago. Rightfully so.

People complaining about Bitcoin's enegry consumption isn't really what I am bothered by. It's high level politicians talking about Bitcoin's energy consumption being an environmental disaster cracking me up. If they even bothered to care about the environment, they would do something about the larger oil corporations literally poisoning and killing everything that is alive, and that on a daily basis. Just look at what Shell is doing in Nigeria. It's going on for years, but no one even cares to sanction Shell. That basically also goes up for Exxon, Shevron, BP, Total, etc. As long as they are willing to pay their 'contributions', no one will even dare to sanction them, that's how things go - corruption is the desicive factor as always.

This. Can't blame politicians for picking a populist stand on Bitcoin, though. That's sort of their job Wink
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