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1621  Local / Трейдеры / Re: Последний вагон на север on: February 14, 2023, 06:56:48 AM
С цифровыми валютами центральных банков планируют устраивать очень много фокусов всяких для их пользователей. Например стимулировать экономический спрос, устанавливая время существования этих денег. Не успел их потратить вовремя они сгорают. Также наверняка эти деньги нельзя будет потратить на запрещённые и сомнительные товары.

Например,если ты ребёнок с какой стати ты должен покупать сигареты, используя CBDC?

Логично же запрограммировать эти деньги так, чтобы до достижения 16 лет ты даже теоретически не мог сделать такую покупку?
ИМХО, нет. Логично сделать так, чтобы информация о такой покупке автоматически была направлена карательным органам, и они нахлобучили продавца. Я именно такого развития жду от CBDC. Разве государство заинтересовано в сокращении преступности? Ведь при сокращении преступности и ментов придётся сокращать.

Предложенный Вами путь - это путь предотвращения преступлений. Предложенный мною путь - это путь увеличения показателя «раскрываемости». Даже интересно посмотреть, что же на самом деле выберут государства.

P.S. Ещё один аргумент.
Если запрограммировать на запрет траты, то деньги, которые ребёнок хотел бы потратить на сигареты, останутся у ребёнка.
Если запрограммировать на информирование ментов, то при совершении покупки эти деньги на миг перейдут продавцу, после чего немедленно будут изъяты в пользу … нет, не ребёнка.
Я что-то не могу себе представить, чтобы государство выбрало вариант запрограммированного запрета траты.
internetional глубоко копаешь. Я даже и не подумал как-то, но твой вариант вообще логичный. Контроль трат, без запретов, но с предупреждением и потом действительно логично не давить сразу, а дать развернуться и потом принять уже всех по форме. Логично.

также на интересную инфу наткнулся. "Стоимость приобретенных клиентами цифровых активов на балансе PayPal на конец 2022 года составила $604 млн. Такие данные содержатся в годовом отчете платежной компании для SEC.
Из указанной суммы $291 млн пришлись на биткоин, $250 млн — на Ethereum, оставшиеся $63 млн — на Bitcoin Cash и Litecoin. Компания не раскрыла конкретные цифры в последнем случае." https://forklog.com/news/klienty-paypal-priobreli-kriptovalyutu-na-604-mln

Вроде бы новость не особо важная и цифры не самые заоблачные, но зато это прям вот "реальные деньги", люди я так понимаю с карты свои кровные перечисляют.
Также замечу что почти все проекты POW (эфир только недавно откололся) и не самые "топовые". Лайт где-то двадцатый, кэш вообще наверное где-то 50-й, но тем не менее интересное наблюдение.
1622  Other / Archival / Re: Монеты проектов ИИ. Новый тренд? on: February 14, 2023, 06:37:38 AM
Раз тема стартанула, может кому будет интересно.
Полный список типа "ИИ проектов"
"Торги в парах с Tether (USDT) на спотовых рынках стартовали 8 февраля. Клиенты Bitget получили доступ к токенам пяти проектов, использующих искусственный интеллект:

SingularityNET — блокчейн-платформа для создания и монетизации приложений;
Image Generation AI — генератор картинок в стиле аниме с поддержкой Telegram-бота;
Artificial Liquid Intelligence — разработчик системы CharacterGPT, генерирующей 3D-модели на основе текстового описания;
Oraichain — блокчейн на базе CosmosSDK, использующий данные ИИ-оракулов;
Future AI — разработчик одноименного протокола на базе ИИ, интегрирующего инструменты для анализа рисков и управления смарт-контрактами в криптокошельки. Компания также разрабатывает Telegram-бота, который отвечает на вопросы с помощью языковой модели GPT-3 и нейронной сети DALL-E."

https://forklog.com/news/bitget-dobavila-v-listing-tokeny-pyati-ii-proektov

Из всего этого знаком только ORAI. Болтался около бакса и никому не был нужен, но с момента листинга стартанул до 11, теперь скорректировался до 7.
Проект мертвый, вначале не понял почему взлетел, но потом понял что хайп на теме ИИ сделал свое дело.
Я так понимаю остальные проекты из той же серии, но вдруг кто-то найдет для себя что-то полезное.
Все-таки 11 исков даже дохлый ОРАИ сделал.
1623  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: February 14, 2023, 06:16:06 AM
I don't understand what game Inter played today in the Italian League. I didn't imagine that it would play so badly. I was a little surprised to see today's game between Sampdoria and Inter. I thought that Inter might win in today's match, but the match was a draw.  None of the teams could score any goals which meant that the points of today's match had to be shared between the two teams.

And again we can't predict exactly in Serie A matches which I think should be an easy match for Inter because Samdoria is not a tough opponent
but the fact is a draw is the final result obviously this disappointed the fans and widened the gap with Napoli, somehow all aspects favor Napoli to win the title.
Some suspicious match to be honest. Almost always in full-time matches Inter won, here he also had to win to reduce the gap from Napoli, and Sampdoria is the most suitable team for this. Of the last five games, 4 of them lost and 1 drew, probably only Salernina was more "convenient" opponent.

There are also a lot of questions about the lineup. Why keep 60 Lukaku on the field, who does not score, is nervous and obviously does not get into the game and you can say that Inter played with ten men. So Inzaghi does not really need points, since he lets him in the starting lineup.
1624  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: February 13, 2023, 12:57:32 PM
Napoli can be called champions this year. The points difference is widening and if it doesn't decrease in the coming weeks, they will be crowned champions early. They are really playing great this year and I have to say that they deserve this championship. After 2 weeks they will play important matches one after the other. These games will be against Lazio and Atalanta. The fact that napoli will play both games at home is a big advantage for them. If they don't lose in these matches, they will declare themselves champions.
Although it's still too early to say that, but it's also not wrong because the point difference they have now is very wide and it will be very difficult for their competitors to catch up, moreover, the team that is close to them at the moment is still in fluctuating performance and they also often lose points. If Napoli can continue playing like they are showing now, then I also agree that they will be able to claim the title early.
The difference with Inter is already 16 points, but Inter still has one less game. With this game, no one is afraid of Napoli, Spalleti's team can beat anyone. I think there is a chance for Napoli to win the Champions League, if their leaders do not get injuries and do not slow down, so many will remember this season. Spalleti has prepared the team well, made it balanced and the transfer department has also done an excellent job. 
1625  Local / Трейдеры / Re: Последний вагон на север on: February 13, 2023, 12:50:57 PM
Ну штош... Новый фуд подъехал... Sec будет подавать в суд на Paxos, из-за их стэйблкоины BUSD, т.к. По мнению сек это является ценной бумагой. ..  Grin Binance уже сьезжают с темы что мол мы просто эмитенты, печатаем BUSD как нам велит Paxos...  Grin Понравилось сек считать крипту ценной бумагой!  Grin Вот вам и приоритет крипты на 2023 год от США... По-ходу ещё один армагеддон зреет, да ещё связанный с Бинанс... Если все пойдёт не по плану, и Сизый не выкрутится, то всем снова будет больно!  Grin

И сегодня же выпущено 1 лярд тезера...  Grin
https://tronscan.org/#/transaction/8587677db6b05c08e852357bc9179b10c39eb35d83a575eb79be5113f925d2da
Ну логично, ведь все эти стейблы, тезеры и прочие "недодоллары" они по сути конкуренты будущим CBDC. Причем не только доллару, а остальным.
А вот биток им не конкурент, при всех вводных пока он всех устраивает, как и другие POW проекты.
Стейкинг тоже прессуют, что логично, ведь POS не что иное как акции компании, а значит все что на POS оно конкурент всем обитателям наздака снпи и прочих и тут тоже пирог криптанам никто не даст дербанить.
Пока вроде канва понятна и видимо рано или поздно всем стейблам (кроме тех у кого железобетонная крыша) придет логичный конец.
1626  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: February 13, 2023, 12:40:33 PM
Looks like Villa has no chance, the game is one-goal game and the only interesting thing, whether Aston Villa will score a goal or not, now the odds on Aston Villa's goal is already 3.5 and I think further will only grow.
In theory Aston Villa can score one goal, but not with such a game as in the first half.
I hope Unai Emery will find the right words at halftime, otherwise it will end in a big win for City and defeat Aston Villa.  
Aston Villa have almost no chance of winning, they can't come back from 0-3 against Manchester City.

Yeah that seems like job done for City. Aston Villa are performing very poor in defence and are unable to handle City's attack strongly so I think this game is pretty much done and dusted. Aston Villa are having so much hard time trying to hold City's attack down that they have been unable to get any time for attack. I also don't think Villa has any chance of winning now with the way they have played the first half.
Apparently this year Manchester City will be the champion, a very strong game shows the team, except for the loss to Tottenham, otherwise everything is great. Rodri, Marez, Haaland (and he not only scores, but also gives assists) played so that Aston Villa essentially had no chance. Watkins seized on just about the only opportunity to score. Aston Villa only had two shots on goal in the match. It's not clear how Unai Emery got there, still he's a good coach, I think Villa are not quite his level. With such a selection of players that Aston Villa have at the moment to claim something is problematic.
1627  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2022/23 on: February 12, 2023, 05:41:11 PM
Celta Vigo 0 - 0 Atletico Madrid
Match just and Joseph Aidoo number 15 and Gabriel Veiga number 24 both in CELTA VIGO team has gotten Yellow card, Atletico Madrid is even attacking them (Celta Vigo) more. I am also predicting on this game that Atletico Madrid will win the game with 1-0. The structure or the lineup of Atletico Madrid is nice and they are playing well.
Atletico Madrid's chances of winning this match do look higher, but Celta Vigo also put up some resistance in this first half. In the second half I think Atletico Madrid should improve some of the touches that didn't seem to work in the first half. The coach can refresh their game so that it is tidier and more organized in carrying out attacks from below. Let's see what Atletico Madrid can do in the second half later.

Atletico Madrid was very lucky today. They scored in the 89th minute and won. I wouldn't say that Atletico Madrid performed very well. Celta Vigo is not a very strong team but they performed well enough in this match. However, the match was very important for Atlético Madrid to get 3 points from this match. Otherwise, it would have been difficult for Atletico Madrid to stay in the top four of the points table.
Atletico scored in the minority, played with ten men for almost 20 minutes of the second half, and in the end of the match Depay still scored.
Although as the match progressed, Celta could have scored, Aspas shot just above the crossbar and on 65 minutes the cloud was saved by pulling the ball off the ribbon.

Atletico won on the individual skill of the players, nevertheless the three points are very important for them now.
1628  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: February 12, 2023, 05:27:54 PM
Manchester City vs Aston Villa is an another interesting match in the weekend. But the question most viewers are asking in the hall, now that Manchester City has scored 1 goal within 4 minutes period and seeing the struggle of Aston Villa, will Aston Villa win, or equalize in the match? Since we are talking about prediction here. I also predicted Manchester City to win the game. Erling Haaland is playing well. Let's see the out come of the match at the full time of the game.

Villa can find good amount of chances but its upto them to take those opportunities and find the net. I think they can find good chances in counters as they really are vulnerable while facing quick counters. So far City are dominating and pressurizing Villa's defence but scoreboard can change at any point. If City score 1-2 goals more than I think they have done their job in this fixture and I don't think Villa will be able to make a comeback but so far Villa has a chance still(but slim chances),
Looks like Villa has no chance, the game is one-goal game and the only interesting thing, whether Aston Villa will score a goal or not, now the odds on Aston Villa's goal is already 3.5 and I think further will only grow.
In theory Aston Villa can score one goal, but not with such a game as in the first half.
I hope Unai Emery will find the right words at halftime, otherwise it will end in a big win for City and defeat Aston Villa.  
Aston Villa have almost no chance of winning, they can't come back from 0-3 against Manchester City.
1629  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: February 12, 2023, 03:18:43 PM
The composition of Manchester United's squad doesn't look too structured, without Casemiro the defense is easy to penetrate, without Eriksen who acts as a midfielder also doesn't look strong, and on the most important line of defense, Shaw without Martinez looks flawed. One more thing, Weghorst role still hasn't shown where his contribution will go other than as a display up front.
Manchester United's game was completely messed up in the first half, Marcel Sabitzer and Fred were unable to control the course of the game, so not many opportunities were created in the first half, Bruno Fernandes got a good chance in first half added minutes, but his low shot found Ilan Meslier in the leg, even though it was the only good chance Manchester United had in the first half. Weghorst had absolutely no role in the first half, not one touch that could threaten Leeds United.

While Leeds United appeared impressive and were able to make Manchester United's defense difficult, I think the midfield is a big problem for Manchester United, without the presence of Cesimero and Eriksen no one was able to play a midfield role properly, so they were unable to keep up and break off attacks from Leeds United. Waiting for a surprise in the second round and now it has started.
The lack of goals in the first half looks unexpected, both teams should have scored, Fernandes missed a great moment at the end of the first half and Summerville was a little unlucky at the beginning of the half. All in all a very lively game, although without goals. Fernandes not only has no luck but his opponents always kick him, probably trying to take Manchester's most dangerous player out of the game.

Despite this, Manchester City's chances look better so far, and De Gea should also be pleased, he plays 400 games in the APL.
1630  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2022/23 on: February 12, 2023, 03:07:32 PM
Rayo Vallecano was leading the game. In Getafe, Borja Mayoral missed the penalty kick first. Then Carles Alena was shown a double yellow to red card and Getafe had 10 men left. All the mishaps have happened to them but Getafe didn't give up.
Dimitrievsky made a very stupid mistake. Enes Ünal evaluated this and scored a very simple goal. Enes Ünal is playing great this season. After the goal he showed a "Pray for Türkiye and Syria" t-shirt. He makes up most of Getafe's offensive power. There are 5 minutes left until the end of the match, but neither team is willing to draw. They continue to attack. It's going to be a very enjoying match to watchers. Rayo fans are a little angry of course, because of the stupid mistake made by the goalkeeper.
By the way, it was an interesting game, suspension, two penalties in different times (both not scored), auto-goal and a goal in a game.

Ball possession was 58 to 42 in favor of Rayo Vallecano, so in general it was an even game. It's a pity that Getafe didn't score a penalty, they could have won and so it turns out that Getafe hasn't won 7 games in a row, which of course looks disastrous. There are still chances not to fly out, but such opponents as Rayo Vallecano can be beaten and if the players of Getafe would have been a little more confident, they could also break their winless streak.
1631  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: February 11, 2023, 05:53:45 PM


This is a fairly easy match for Roma, even though they are a guest team it seems that they will not hesitate to take 3 points at home to Lecce. We know that with just one win, Roma will shift Inter's position in the standings and it seems that coach Jose Mourinho is very sure of this victory. Meanwhile, Lecce has a record of the last 5 matches which is somewhat unsatisfactory, they only got 1 win, the rest were draws and losses.
Well, while everything is not going well for Roma, they conceded a goal in the first minutes, but then were able to recoup. While Lecce looks good, not far behind Roma in shots on goal, but possession is already 65 to 35 in favor of Roma. If we are very lucky, Lecce will be able to score in the counter attack, but whether they can withstand the onslaught of Roma and not concede more is a big question.

In general, it will be an interesting game, although we must recognize that by all accounts Roma must win and it would be very unfortunate for Roma to stumble now.
1632  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: February 11, 2023, 05:36:41 PM
Today's Monaco vs PSG match promises to be very interesting. I don't see a favorite here. Monaco has been in pretty good shape lately. Especially at their stadium, they beat their rivals convincingly. Mbappe and Messi, among others, will not play at PSG due to injury, it is a great weakness of the team. I think the most likely outcome for this match is a draw.

Paris player's are currently in disarray
They lack two of their best players who have been Injured till today
The old team of Mbappe has collected points to secure their chase for european competition
Apparently the main sensation of the tour is coming. Without Messi and Mbappe PSG looks very bad, all the other players play very unstable and it is not clear how to get out of this situation, but you can not play like that. Two players are essentially dragging the entire club, and the rest are just trying not to miss much?

In general, before the Champions League the head coach of PSG will have a lot to think about, the opponent will be stronger than Monaco.
1633  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: February 11, 2023, 05:26:51 PM
Shocked until the 62th minute Tottenham lost 3-1 to Leicester. Though I believe Tottenham are capable of winning because they are capable of making goals first. It seemed that two quick goals took Tottenham by surprise. Leicester until this minute dared to play openly. In fact they made a lot of chances than Tottenham. I think their Leicester quality is far from Tottenham, but this is what the EPL is all about.
Leicester City appeared extraordinary after falling behind earlier in this match, Leicester players immediately stepped on the gas with three goals in return which made the match 3-1. This result was truly unexpected, Tottenham, who were the favorites in this match, actually trailed by two goals. While Leicester performance was much better than the previous match which made it difficult for Tottenham players to find additional goals.
This match will belong to Leicester, while Tottenham must be prepared to accept defeat as a result of not being able to maintain performance like when they beat Manchester City last week.

Leicester City are performing fantastically. 85 minutes of the game have passed. Leicester City has managed to give 4 goals to a team like Tottenham. On the other hand, only Tottenham managed to score 1 goal. In this match, Tottenham did not get any chance to match themselves.
That's a great game from Leicester, although I thought Tottenham would win. Before that Tottenham had a strong game against Manchester City and Leicester did not seem such a difficult opponent, but it turned out that in the end Leicester won almost without a chance for Tottenham. For Tottenham it will be the biggest defeat of the season. Apparently Conte will leave at the end of the season after all, Tottenham's play is unstable. Kane alone won't always be able to save and score like he did against Manchester City in the last round.

1634  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: February 11, 2023, 03:01:20 PM
So I take it that after the Chelsea transfers and today's lackluster performance, you can take bets on when Potter will be fired? The point of keeping him as head coach with such a game is now even less clear? Apparently Potter has no special respect from the players, he is afraid to quarrel with the leaders and as a consequence he has no authority in the locker room. I don't have any other fact that the players have such an attitude towards the performance of their duties. There is no progress in the game either, no thoughts either, some results are only due to individual actions of players like Felix and Enzo.

Cucurella does not get into the game and it is visible, it is not clear how he got into the lineup in the first place?

In general, I think one more defeat and Potter can pack his bags, with this game the count goes to the days before his dismissal.   
1635  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: February 11, 2023, 02:44:44 PM
A very disappointing substitution from Graham Porter. Ever since the first half Kai Havert and Cucurella were the weak point in the Chelsea squad and I was expecting something better than substituting Madueke and Mudryke for mount and Ziyech thereby leaving Harvert.
It's so saddening to watch Chelsea play like an average team and I don't think Porter will ever do well, it's no more making sense.
With such a squad to show such a game is of course a failure of the coach. At first there was some team play, runs, players tried to open up, but then it all ended quickly and it all came down to individual actions. Felix and Enzo played well, the rest played either poorly or very poorly, like Cucurella. Kai Havert also played poorly, but at least he tried, but he can't play forward no matter how hard he tries.

Well and at the end probably after Gallagher's kick there should have been a penalty and it's strange that it wasn't given, the penalty seems to be a clean one, hand play in his own penalty box.
Why they didn't watch VAR is also unclear.
1636  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: February 10, 2023, 12:06:35 PM
I feel like if Manchester United really wants to take a chance, it is going to be the best with Harry Kane. Who knows, probably Harry Kane will also be able to perform far better after he goes to Manchester United!

I think Harry Kane can also take this chance because Manchester United is slowly improving day by day. And I think it is actually going to be a good destination for someone like Harry Kane. Manchester United needs one thing right now, a prolific striker. And he is someone who can fill that void very well.


Harry Kane will definitely be a good striker for Manchester United to go for but I don’t think Tottenham will be ready to sell him out easily to an opponent team of the same league. Harry Kane is a legendary player there and well appreciated by the team a lot. I don’t think or feel Harry Kane will leave Tottenham to another club even in the next transfer window.
Harry Kane is a unique player and it's a big mystery why he's still at Tottenham. It is clear that Tottenham will not sell such a player to MJ even for 100 million, even if Manchester will offer that money.

Without Kane, Tottenham will be an average club, but as it is, Kane's play keeps them near the top of the table.

And they write that for Manchester Kane seems "old" and Manchester is considering younger players like Osimhen, Ramos or Kudus.
1637  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season on: February 10, 2023, 11:56:32 AM
After Kylian Mbappe who had to be absent due to injury in the match against Bayern Munich in the first leg of the UCL playoffs, now it's Lionel Messi's turn to be doubtful for that match due to a hamstring injury against Marseille in the Coupe de France yesterday. It seems that this is bad news for all PSG supporters and of course the PSG squad will not appear at full strength against Bayern Munich in the first leg later. Galtier must be very dizzy watching his players get injured one by one and there seems to be no doubt that Bayern Munich's victory in the first leg is in sight.

That's a wonderful news for me since i were putting all of my bets on bayern. It's bad news for those who may put their money on PSG but i just hope that neymar will not able to play against bayern as well. This is really giving me more advantage caused by some important players unable to play against bayern in UCL. I hope that PSG will be losing against bayern. We will be very close to the continuation of UCL. I must be thankful with marseille caused by that another important player of PSG will not able to play against Bayern. The absence of mbappe and messi will be decreasing a threat for attacking line of PSG for bayern. This news makes me so happy caused by bayern is coming back again to the its best performance.
I would not be so quick to get excited about this event. Neymar is a great and creative player, the absence of Mbappe could even be a plus in this situation, because PSG can play from the defense, knowing that the 2 best players can not play, which will create problems for Bayern. The qualification of PSG players will allow them to play safely on counterattacks and it is possible that just with Bayern it will play in PSG's favor.

It is also unclear in what lineup Bayern will approach the match, it is also possible that not all key players will be able to participate in the match.
1638  Local / Майнеры / Re: Донеси на майнера в РФ on: February 10, 2023, 11:44:38 AM
Психи майнят Grin
В Иркутской областной психбольнице обнаружены две майнинговые фермы
«Установлено, что на чердачном помещении медицинского учреждения на территории Иркутского района нелегально размещались две майнинговые фермы на 13 единиц оборудования, подключенного к электрическим сетям больницы над лечебными корпусами. Это создавало риск возникновения аварийной ситуации и причинения вреда пациентам», — сообщает пресс-служба регионального ГУ МВД.

майнинг шагает по планете вовлекая в свою орбиту все новых людей! Круто же!
Вообще конечно мощная придумка по размещению, попробуй найди, да и кто туда полезет, люди стараются таких мест избегать, а "контингент" обычно мирный и своеобразный. Видимо сдали кто-то из своих, с кем не поделились.

Вообще смотрю майнинг активно не только входит в жизнь, но и пытается качать права, пусть пока только в сша, но мне кажется начало хорошее положено.
"В Миссисипи защитят биткоин-майнеров от повышенных тарифов на электричество. Сенат американского штата Миссисипи принял законопроект, защищающий добытчиков криптовалют от дискриминации. Соответствующий документ рассматривает Палата представителей. Документ запрещает коммунальным предприятиям устанавливать для участников блокчейн-индустрии «дискриминационные тарифы» на электроэнергию.

Также к майнерам не должны предъявляться повышенные требования по уровню шума, отличные от общепринятых. То же касается и других норм по загрязнению окружающей среды."
Учитывая растуший хэшрейт на пулах в сша, потихоньку растут не только мощности оборудования, но и возможности в отстаивании своих интересов, что на майнинг надо смотреть не только как на "терпил" или "дойных коров", а как на вполне выгодный, прибыльный и капиталоемкий бизнес, который может платить налоги, обеспечивать занятость.

https://forklog.com/news/v-missisipi-zashhityat-bitkoin-majnerov-ot-povyshennyh-tarifov-na-elektrichestvo
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Наверное на просторы СНГ эти новые веяния попадут как обычно с лагом лет в 5-10.
1639  Local / Трейдеры / Re: Последний вагон на север on: February 10, 2023, 11:19:26 AM
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 "LocalBitcoins передала в налоговую данные свыше 100 000 российских пользователей https://forklog.com/news/localbitcoins-peredala-v-nalogovuyu-dannye-svyshe-100-000-rossijskih-polzovatelej"), а он 10ку оттянул на таком рынке ....
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А ничего что статья за апрель 2022 года?

Тут в темах вообще манипуляции на манипуляциях, во что мы превращаемся ужас

По поводу теханализа пока на ум приходит только попытка построить некую фигуру "отражение бухого обоссавшегося Чебурашки в луже мочи ночью при свете луны"  Grin Если фигура реализуется, потом нарисую ее в соответствующей теме с моими ебанутыми фигурами. Хотя вероятность реализации небольшая, но все же нечто подобное когда-то помню было построено
Это статья про сотрудничество 2022 года, а закрылся Localbitcoins вчера https://forklog.com/news/localbitcoins-obyavila-o-zakrytii
Я упомянул новость про них в контексте сотрудничества с налоговой(причем явно не одной). Обычно такие конторы не топят намеренно, уж очень хорошо через них доставать фактуру, а раз Localbitcoins закрылись, то значит и причины были более чем веские.
Пишут что средства закончились(ну и отмывание видимо тоже через Bitzlato имело место), но раз компания проработала 10 лет, то и риск-менеджмент должен был быть нормальным да и прошлые медвежки они проходили нормально. 

Все это свидетельствует о серьезном кризисе отрасли в результате падения доходов на медвежьем рынке, а обычно когда такое происходит,  доходы прихода снижаются кратно, так что перестает хватать всем.
И по цепочке начинают сыпаться биржи, клиенты, контр-агенты, горе-инвесторы и далее пока не найдется равновесие.


1640  Local / Трейдеры / Re: Последний вагон на север on: February 10, 2023, 05:51:37 AM
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Надеюсь, институциональный закупки помогут сдержать биток от схемы pump&dump, и мы глубоко не скатимся.
Надеюсь, в краткосроке можем сходить в район 18-19К. Либо сразу, либо через обманный микропамп к 25К.

Но в целом, надеюсь, что институционалы не помешают сходить в средне-долгосроке к тесту дна 15К. Куда-то туда.)
С одной стороны все как обычно логично и сам в свое время думал что на 12-15 сходим, когда еще 16к было, по итогу ушли на 22к, а из пары альтов прям по классике высадили. Обычно так в начале бычки происходило или в конце медвежки.

Но есть один аргумент за медвежку - увольнения из криптобирж\компаний и закрытия такого сервиса как LocalBitcoins(где то плачен в углу налоговая "LocalBitcoins передала в налоговую данные свыше 100 000 российских пользователей https://forklog.com/news/localbitcoins-peredala-v-nalogovuyu-dannye-svyshe-100-000-rossijskih-polzovatelej"), а он 10ку оттянул на таком рынке как крипта почти  вообще-то, не новичок короче. Такое может происходить по одной причине - прибыль маленькая, на всех не хватает.
нет пока на рынке инструментов которые могли бы послужить топливом росту, как дефи\нфт\айсио в прошлые разы.


Кстати кто-то интересные эксперименты на битке мутит с NFT, но это скорее не признаки бычки, а просто лишний раз наука тем, кто списывает деда как устаревшего и никуда негодного.

Плюс некуда пристроить тысячи видюх, не крутится колесо дефицита. Асики тема отдельная, важная, но GPU майнинг был крайне важен, как кусочек пазла, по ценам на видюхи почти без ошибок можно было угадать что сейчас идет бычка или медвежка.

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