All ICO not scam. I participate in a new ICO car-taxi (CTX) which is just completed its pre-ico and I already received this month dividend in my ether wallet and ico sale will start after 2-3 days. If you do proper study and make due diligence and proper study, you get good profit from any ICO.
CarTaxi got a 2.9 out of 10 rating: https://hacked.com/ico-analysis-cartaxi/ I’m scratching my head trying to figure out why a blockchain is needed to tow cars. In order for an entity, like CarTaxi, to pay dividends before it is making profit, let alone in operation, then it is a ponzi scheme. There are many brilliant ICO's among the crappy ones. The key things in my opinion are:
* solid team with experience and connections
* support from other people with experience (executives from large businesses like bill gates or founders of blockchain based companies like vitalik)
* a long, realistic roadmap with both the risks and advantages
* great marketing on a lot of different media (youtube ads, facebook ads, online articles, news reports, ...)
* personal activity and interaction on social media, fora, conventions, ...
* good website
* transparancy
my personal favorites right now are Datum and Change
Augur had Vitalik Buterin on their team. Vitalik is the best person in the entire crypto industry that you can add to your team. After raising millions and after two and a half years, all they’ve released is a simple beta that is barely usable. There are a number ICOs, that haven’t raised anything yet and they already have more software built. Enjin, Funfair and Stockbet already have much more than Augur’s beta. If anyone understands blockchains, they would know that the Datum team consists of idiots. Bitcoin is already having scaling issues with its 120+GB blockchain and it’s only storing small numbers for each transaction. Ethereum’s blockchain shot past Bitcoin’s and is approx. 200GB. Scaling is Ethereum’s biggest issue. It stores only smart contracts. Datum is like ARToken, which wants to store TONS and TONS of data on a blockchain. Good luck with that. Its blockchain will need to be hundreds of Terabytes. Who is going to run its full node? You? Change-Bank is way too late to the party. Monaco, TenX and Centra are doing debit cards as well. Also, nobody is going to put their coins in a bank or any centralized place, for the reasons that Andreas Antonopoulos cited. You are creating a honey-pot for hackers and employees to steal. Also, they lie about their team. Their “Blockchain Expert” worked as an Inside Sales Rep until 1.5 months prior. Their “Blockchain Developer” never developed a blockchain before. Also, banking and insurance are very complicated businesses. Nobody on Change-Bank's team has any experience in banking or insurance. The easiest way to filter out the shit and scams is to use 3 filters: 1) HAS THE TEAM BUILT ANYTHING THAT WE CAN USE TODAY? If not, ignore. Everything else is useless. There have been many projects with impressive teams, fancy pretentious titles, detailed roadmaps, cool videos and lots of social media activity that have raised millions and still have not released any software. Let me know if you want examples. 2) IS THE TEAM FROM A CORRUPT COUNTRY? If so, ignore. https://www.transparency.org/news/feature/corruption_perceptions_index_20163) RESEARCH THE PROJECT and don't be suckered by the fancy animations and videos. And don't be scammed by comments from users who are interested in pumping and dumping. If we take your opinion into account Ethereum should've been ignored as an ICO. Datum isn't going to store tons and tons of data on the blockchain instantly. It's gonna grow, just like bitcoin and ethereum did. Nobody is instantly gonna jump on the datum project, it'll take time. Also, its not gonna store all data, just the data that's gonna be sold. Facebook is storing massive amounts of data and sells that data to advertisers. Are you saying Facebook is more technologically advanced than Blockchain? Change isn't too late for the party. Are you saying centra, monaco and tenx are gonna supply the entire world of cards? I don't think so. Plus, Change is based in Estonia, which is the most digital country in the world, giving it quite a good start. About the centralisation, that's just not true. You say we need to research projects but you didn't research Change, or you're invested in either one of the three others you mentioned. About their team, they actually do have experience, but even if they didn't that's no guarantee for failure. One of my best friends has never had a job, yet he's the CFO of 2 LLC's and 1 VC he started, all of which are succesful. Last, being born in a corrupt country doesn't make you corrupt yourself. This market doesn't depend on its country of origin, but like I said with Estonia, being based in a good country definitely has its advantages, but it's no necessity. Look at where Vitalik comes from, one of the most corrupt countries in the world. There are a few differences between when Ethereum had its ICO and today: - There are far more ICOs today than back then, so you can be much choosier
- Vitalik was co-founder of Bitcoin Magazine in 2011. This means that he was already a leader in the field, when he started Ethereum in 2014. Most of the ICOs today are not started by leaders in this field. Some of them have only been exposed to cryptocurrencies for a few months.
- Vitalik grew up in Canada and Ethereum started in Switzerland. Today, you have many ICOs coming from corrupt countries around the world: https://www.transparency.org/news/feature/corruption_perceptions_index_2016 In 2014, you didn't.
Datum only needs to be a fraction of the popularity of Bitcoin or Ethereum, and it will have a bigger blockchain and have scaling problems. Facebook, or any company, can process more data than the blockchain, because their databases are centralized. Centralized databases can process much more. That’s one of the reasons that Visa can process way more and faster than the blockchain. I’m not invested in any coin bank for the reasons I cited: Nobody is going to put their coins in a bank or any centralized place, for the reasons that Andreas Antonopoulos cited. You are creating a honey-pot for hackers and employees to steal. I would not invest in Change-Bank because they lie about their team. Their “Blockchain Expert” worked as an Inside Sales Rep until 1.5 months prior. Their “Blockchain Developer” never developed a blockchain before. Also, banking and insurance are very complicated businesses. None of the people on Change-Bank's team have experience in banking or insurance. There will be scams from North America or Western Europe and there will be successful projects from corrupt countries. But when you invest, you have to factor in probability. The probability of scams coming from corrupt countries is higher. If you get a phishing email, it's likely from a corrupt country. It's not just scams. The probability of projects that are not well thought out, that do not fully understand the complexities of business, blockchain or technology, that will exaggerate, will be higher from corrupt countries as well. I appreciate the way you explain yourself, it's clear you're intelligent and you definitely know what you're talking about. I agree with a number of things you say, but what you don't factor in is that technology is always advancing, now faster than it ever has, and slower than it ever will in the future. About Datum, I understand and agree with what you say, except for the fact that technology, more specifically data processing, is one of the fastest growing industries in the world. Fog computing isn't sci fi anymore, and localized cloud computing is more than capable of dealing with the amount of data that will be stored and traded on the datum network, because it simply won't come close to what facebook and other media will have to deal with, at least not at first. The way those crypto 'banks' work isn't with centralisation of our money and finances, it's the centralisation of decentralised services, which makes it not more hackable than any other bank afaik. Also, Change is based in Estonia, which isn't a corrupt country by any standards, at least not more than other countries. Datum is based in HK, which also fights to get rid of corruption. Whether or not that claim is in fact true remains to be seen. We both know we could discuss this topic endlessly. I have my vision and you have yours, which I respect. The fact of the matter is only time can tell. I believe in every project i've invested in and it has paid off really well. I've therefore decided to participate in both ICO's becuase I felt I could take a little more risk to potentially gain a little more profit. Like I said, time will tell. |
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This pump!!
do you think that sonm will have better price than rlc and golem ?
Marketcap wise sonm should have 2,5 times Golems value, so about 60 cents. I think it'll be at that level at the end of the year, and when they come out with their new version in august next year it'll be around 2, 3$ |
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Hey guys -
Thoughts?
Bitcoin 0.14510280 (buying 3 or 4 full this weekend based on movement)
Litecoin 43.5
OMG 226.25
Etherium 5.25
Walton Coin 737.23
Ark 291.5
Verge 121,000
Lisk 100.62
NEO 19.74
WAVES 93
GNT 1,261.92
Aventus 121
Ripple 1080
Monetha 1072
BAT 452
Factom 3.78
Digibyte 4,349
QRL 100
IOTA 100
XEM 150
FUN 1000
If you had 1k more to put into 5 coins (5k total)... which ones would you pump?
Add Sonm and Change and you'll be good |
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They have good plans to deliver some very interesting products to make these tokens valuable. For more details you will have to check and dig both threads this as well as of Minereum. There at opening page you can find all the plans and roadmap with detail. That is nice all there.
Do you honestly think their roadmap and plans are good? If I'd turn in their wp for a 6th grade school project I'd get an F, whereas if I'd turn in Sonm's wp as my masters degree thesis, my professor would probably sell it for 15 million and give me an A++ |
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A lot of bad news about WTC, eventhough most of the sources seem reliable. I'm happy I bought, but I must say I transfers some profits to Sonm
Same here! One thing to note, the contrast between the communication skills of the two teams. I'm actually impressed with the level of professionalism from the SONM team. They're doing a great job communicating with the users. Hopefully their engineering skills are on par. On the other hand, the team from Walton Chain seems like a joke. Don't make the mistake of being hypocritical here, and don't be quick to judge. I've been a SONM bagholder since the ICO; you go through that SONM ANN and watch the progression of posts after the ICO, and their communication was LARGELY viewed as a joke at one point as well. They didn't even really have a good BCT presence at all, it was only because the community complained SO much that they hired an ADDITIONAL person specifically for that. You look at the tune of the SONM thread now and its all roses, but you go back through that thread when it price hit all time lows (around 3 cents), and ~80%+ of the thread was FUD, complaints about lack of communication, and the credibility of the dev team. At the price of 3 CENTS people were acting as if SONM WAS POISON...if you think the FUD in here is alot, it's nothing compared to the MONTH(S) long FUD in the SONM thread. Fudders spreading distrust when the China is on Golden Week. How interesting is that? Attacking them when they can't really respond. Whys that china doesnt let em tweet and answer stuff? I mean even when they didnt hv a week off its not like they tweeted or answered stuff. Ill believe this project when reporting on it comes from actual mainstream news rather than "unofficial waltonchain news" reddit and slack mods. Lmao. They are on VACATION. That is what Golden Week is. Let me know if you are answering work calls while on vacation. It's still a great project in my eyes but caution is always advised |
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Well, we had to test $50 first. Dealt with all the China FUD and now back on track. Taking a breather around $30, next stop $50+
it's really clear we're in accumulation right now, soon some good news will emerge and we'll shoot right up to the ATH I guess we might be seeing some fire depending whats Happening at the china's 19th Party congress later in October.. we Need some pro Crypto power over there! Definitely, I believe the odds are in our favour as China recently released a statement saying they have a zero tolerance policy on crypto crimes, which means they might legalize them and regulate them very strictly |
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Please continue with the FUD. Want to get in cheap so I could complete my collection for a masternode. Thanks.
Just sold mine to invest in sonm. I'm gonna buy some WTC back at the end of the week when Fud will have affected the price a little more, I'm expecting 6$ |
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All ICO not scam. I participate in a new ICO car-taxi (CTX) which is just completed its pre-ico and I already received this month dividend in my ether wallet and ico sale will start after 2-3 days. If you do proper study and make due diligence and proper study, you get good profit from any ICO.
CarTaxi got a 2.9 out of 10 rating: https://hacked.com/ico-analysis-cartaxi/ I’m scratching my head trying to figure out why a blockchain is needed to tow cars. In order for an entity, like CarTaxi, to pay dividends before it is making profit, let alone in operation, then it is a ponzi scheme. There are many brilliant ICO's among the crappy ones. The key things in my opinion are:
* solid team with experience and connections
* support from other people with experience (executives from large businesses like bill gates or founders of blockchain based companies like vitalik)
* a long, realistic roadmap with both the risks and advantages
* great marketing on a lot of different media (youtube ads, facebook ads, online articles, news reports, ...)
* personal activity and interaction on social media, fora, conventions, ...
* good website
* transparancy
my personal favorites right now are Datum and Change
Augur had Vitalik Buterin on their team. Vitalik is the best person in the entire crypto industry that you can add to your team. After raising millions and after two and a half years, all they’ve released is a simple beta that is barely usable. There are a number ICOs, that haven’t raised anything yet and they already have more software built. Enjin, Funfair and Stockbet already have much more than Augur’s beta. If anyone understands blockchains, they would know that the Datum team consists of idiots. Bitcoin is already having scaling issues with its 120+GB blockchain and it’s only storing small numbers for each transaction. Ethereum’s blockchain shot past Bitcoin’s and is approx. 200GB. Scaling is Ethereum’s biggest issue. It stores only smart contracts. Datum is like ARToken, which wants to store TONS and TONS of data on a blockchain. Good luck with that. Its blockchain will need to be hundreds of Terabytes. Who is going to run its full node? You? Change-Bank is way too late to the party. Monaco, TenX and Centra are doing debit cards as well. Also, nobody is going to put their coins in a bank or any centralized place, for the reasons that Andreas Antonopoulos cited. You are creating a honey-pot for hackers and employees to steal. Also, they lie about their team. Their “Blockchain Expert” worked as an Inside Sales Rep until 1.5 months prior. Their “Blockchain Developer” never developed a blockchain before. Also, banking and insurance are very complicated businesses. Nobody on Change-Bank's team has any experience in banking or insurance. The easiest way to filter out the shit and scams is to use 3 filters: 1) HAS THE TEAM BUILT ANYTHING THAT WE CAN USE TODAY? If not, ignore. Everything else is useless. There have been many projects with impressive teams, fancy pretentious titles, detailed roadmaps, cool videos and lots of social media activity that have raised millions and still have not released any software. Let me know if you want examples. 2) IS THE TEAM FROM A CORRUPT COUNTRY? If so, ignore. https://www.transparency.org/news/feature/corruption_perceptions_index_20163) RESEARCH THE PROJECT and don't be suckered by the fancy animations and videos. And don't be scammed by comments from users who are interested in pumping and dumping. If we take your opinion into account Ethereum should've been ignored as an ICO. Datum isn't going to store tons and tons of data on the blockchain instantly. It's gonna grow, just like bitcoin and ethereum did. Nobody is instantly gonna jump on the datum project, it'll take time. Also, its not gonna store all data, just the data that's gonna be sold. Facebook is storing massive amounts of data and sells that data to advertisers. Are you saying Facebook is more technologically advanced than Blockchain? Change isn't too late for the party. Are you saying centra, monaco and tenx are gonna supply the entire world of cards? I don't think so. Plus, Change is based in Estonia, which is the most digital country in the world, giving it quite a good start. About the centralisation, that's just not true. You say we need to research projects but you didn't research Change, or you're invested in either one of the three others you mentioned. About their team, they actually do have experience, but even if they didn't that's no guarantee for failure. One of my best friends has never had a job, yet he's the CFO of 2 LLC's and 1 VC he started, all of which are succesful. Last, being born in a corrupt country doesn't make you corrupt yourself. This market doesn't depend on its country of origin, but like I said with Estonia, being based in a good country definitely has its advantages, but it's no necessity. Look at where Vitalik comes from, one of the most corrupt countries in the world. |
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I think ETH will surpass bitcoin in the marketcap one day, because ETH is a reputable coin, investors are emerging to this altcoins. and ETH has alot of ICO.. so i think ETH will be in top .1 in coinmarketcap.
It is not going to happen for the next 100 years I guess. Look at the number of users. ETH is miles behind Bitcoin in that regard. And look at the number of places accepting ETH. Compared to the number of stores and shops accepting BTC, the same for ETH is quite minuscule. And recently, the ETH adoption has suffered several setbacks, especially in China. Eth isn't a currency, it has a higher chance of getting industrial adoption, but individual adoption will be thanks to bitcoin no doubt |
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We currently use AI and blockchain technologies in the energy sector to reduce cost and consumption of electricity in global markets. We currently manage over $140million of energy and cover over 1,100 sites across Europe and are continuing our growth. Our overall model will lead to: 1. A reduction in global energy consumption 2. A reduction in retail energy prices 3. The creation of an eco-system, including a transparent peer-to-peer platform to trade energy Energi Token (ETK) is the next step in our revolution of the energy sector. Traditional incentives to reduce consumption previously have not worked, and we feel that the reason for this is that consumers need to see the monetary value of their change in behaviour before they are likely to act upon this. Our token will offer incentives for a range of energy-efficient behaviour such as taking low-carbon transport and buying energy-efficient appliances. ETK can then be re-used in our eco-system to trade energy or charge your EV. ETK is designed as a reward mechanism to encourage energy efficient behaviour from consumers and there are various ways in which these can be obtained through different methods which we have outlined below. The tokens will be based on the Ethereum ERC-20 standard and can be bought via coin exchanges for several purposes such as individual/company incentive schemes. For example, a company can buy x tokens from the exchange and distribute them amongst its employees for showing energy efficient behaviour that saved the company y amount on their energy bill. Tokens can also be earned by individuals by implementing energy saving behaviour such as commuting via public transport, buying an electric vehicle or consuming less energy at home. If an individual was to commute via public transport they would receive an amount of ETK for using a more energy efficient method of transport. If they purchase an electric car then the car manufacturer or the local authority would reward them with ETK for purchasing an energy efficient vehicle. If they consume less energy at home through behavioural change or more efficient appliances, they would be given ETK for showing energy efficient behaviour. Ultimately the mechanism is designed to encourage energy efficient behaviour and as a by-product, the consumer will become more proficient in the energy industry, leading to more informed decisions being made. The tokens will have a market value and can therefore be exchanged for flat currency, or the consumer can choose to save the tokens and use them to pay for future energy bills and electric vehicle charging. Energi Token has so far gone on to win at the ICOSummit Zurich and come in at 4th place at the d10e Conference on Kiev. We also have Lords Revesdale from the House of Lords on board (CEO of The Energy Managers Association) and are in talks with some of the biggest energy suppliers in the world alongside a major European city. Please contact us for more information: www.energimine.comSounds interesting, I'll keep an eye out for that one Have you read Energi’s short white paper? They cite the main problem is: “A small number of large energy companies supply millions of customers who are price takers.” Therefore, the solution is to create more energy suppliers, especially nuclear power plants, which is the cheapest source of electricity. But Energi does not propose to create another supplier. They propose to enable consumers to sell their self-generated electricity directly to other consumers. This is a TINY market. To do this, consumers need to have BOTH solar panels and batteries. Though solar panels are growing, it is still a tiny percent of the market and solar generated electricity is still much more expensive than nuclear generated. Consumers with solar panels do not have that much surplus electricity to sell anyways. They use most of what they generate. There is strong evidence of this. Tesla and Enphase hyped up their batteries for solar panel owners to store their surplus electricity. (Batteries are needed in order to sell your extra electricity.) These batteries are NOT selling. Enphase spent over $100 million to develop their battery and partly because of the lack of battery sales, their stock has plummeted approximately 85%. Do your own research. Energi shows a diagram of Current System where consumers sell their surplus electricity to the Supplier and the Supplier sells it to other consumers. Then Energi shows a diagram of their solution, where consumers sell electricity directly to each other, to bypass the Supplier (middleman). How will consumers be able to do this? Will consumers hook up wires from their houses to the other houses that want to buy from them? No consumer is going to do this. Even if a few deranged consumers spend the thousands of dollars to do this, why do they need a new token? Why can't they use BTC, ETH, NEM, PIVX, DASH, etc.? Then Energi tries to mislead you by telling you that “Total global electricity consumption was 21,190 TWh (Terawatt hours) in 2016…Power traded globally is a market worth around $2 trillion per annum”. But this is mostly nuclear and coal generated electricity and has nothing to do with consumers selling their solar, self-generated electricity. Solar generated electricity is still more expensive than from the utility companies. The main reason people put up solar panels is because of government subsidies. If debt-ridden governments stop subsidizing, solar industry will crash. Think of Solyndra, which drained $535 million from taxpayers and still went bankrupt. Energi cites this problem as well: Lack of incentives to use less energy
Energy companies make money from selling more energy, so consumers are not incentivised to change behaviour. This is so ridiculous, it’s essentially a lie. EVERY company in the world makes more money from selling more. This does not mean that consumers are not incentivised to change behavior. Energi cites this problem as well: Lack of competition
Barriers to entry are high, with complexity of regulation and costs of entry being the two main reasons for the monopolies operating in all major power markets globally. That’s because it costs $9 billion to build another nuclear power plant. How will Energi lower this barrier? By creating a token? You’re a sucker if you believe this. Energi’s team is in the UK. Does that make them experts on how the energy trading business works in the other 100 countries? To try to replace the existing businesses in all these countries will take hundreds of millions or billions of dollars and decades. Spend 5 minutes to do some research and you'll find serious problems with most ICOs. Most of these white papers are so empty that it takes less time to read them than business plans. Thanks for explaining man. I was at work when I read this on my phone so I didn't even do 5 seconds of research lol I just replied so I'd get a notification and I'd remember this. |
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While I'm still a little skeptical about the supercomputer projects, I do feel SONM stands out. I've been in their telegram for awhile now and they have a very active community and team of developers. They also have shown steady activity on github, so I'm pretty bullish on them in the long run as long as they can continue delivering their product. They could use a better marketing team, but applaud them on the fact that they've used most of their resources to actually develop their product. Advertising can come once they are happy enough with their product.
Also a lot of the advertising is done by the community. I've yet to read one bad thing about what they did other than their ICO. The team has matured a lot, they've added a lot more devs, they go to a lot of events (barcelona recently), and so on. If anyone delivers the supercomputer, it's them |
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You cannot pull out even if you want too.. I want to pull in i missed the kyc by 12 hours...Bugger....Anyone have a link?
The KYC kind of put me off. Same story as with Kin... A friend of mine in the US used a fake passport and got in. KYC is a joke. Indeed, it's mostly a formality |
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I thibk with latest updates,sonm will go to moon and in next days we will see 10k satoshi.What do you guys say?
I think SONM can go up to 50 cent in the next 2-3 Weeks. 50 cent might be a bit on the positive side, But I believe it will increase coming months. It's also nice to compare SONM with Golem, see this post: https://blog.sonm.io/the-definitive-showdown-between-golem-iexec-and-now-it-is-sonm-30daf65870daFYI: SONM's market cap is less than 60 million. GOLEM's market cap is almost 200 million. GOLLEM's supply is also 2 times as much as SONM's supply. Golem had first movers advantage, that's it. I don't think its a bad project at all, I think both can live side by side and have their own niche, but Sonm should be worth a lot more, at least just as much as golem |
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You can always find good moments to buy, just look for patters in the graphs. I've made money with coins I didn't know anything about just because I saw a flag pattern unfold and I decided to profit from that. Just learn how the market tends to move and you'll be good
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Datum ICO will be huge, no doubt, I expect to get a 50x ROI within 1 year
they have a hardcap of 150000eth do you think that they will cost 7.5m eth? I do not know They don't need to reach their hardcap to advance their plans. Also, 1 year is a lot. I believe we'll see a big dump after the ICO, because that's what always happens, but afterwards volume will start to pick up and we'll see it reach at least 1,5 dollar, which is pretty much a x50ROi compared to ICO prices |
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It's gonna be perceived as modern day gold, and as a medium risk medium reward investment (as opposed to right now when its high risk high reward due to the relative volatility)
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Forgot my password to login STOX.COM. I do not see anywhere to reset it on the site. Any help here? Thanks.
I don't see forget/reset password option either, Contact Stox or just create a new account, Doesn't take much time to create a new account. How does one contact Stox? There is not even a support email account....no way to contact them at all from what I see. Also, no response from the team here. I could create another account, but this misses the point. Try social media like insta, twitter, facebook, telegram, slack, ... |
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There are many brilliant ICO's among the crappy ones. The key things in my opinion are:
* solid team with experience and connections
* support from other people with experience (executives from large businesses like bill gates or founders of blockchain based companies like vitalik)
* a long, realistic roadmap with both the risks and advantages
* great marketing on a lot of different media (youtube ads, facebook ads, online articles, news reports, ...)
* personal activity and interaction on social media, fora, conventions, ...
* good website
* transparancy
my personal favorites right now are Datum and Change
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Could anyone tell me when Artemine goes to exchange?
november And which exchages they will use? I always try to know the exchanges because it is very important!! One ICO starts today! Crypto.tickets https://crypto.tickets/index.en.html and they are negotiang with some exchanges to use the best one! Do you held any negotiations now? They'll probably start with some crappy small ones like liqui, hitbtc, cryptopia, ... and hopefully they'll find their way to binance (talking about both MNE and Art) |
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