oh, the other thing that was obvious, to me at least, was that Bitcoinica had come online in September with short selling.
sprayed all over the forum were guffaws from the shorts high fiving about all the profits they'd made which was an indication of everyone on the same side of the boat.
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this is where technical analysis becomes handy despite all the naysayers. we had a declining wedge down to the $2 level. it slowly started leveling out via the indicators revealing declining selling pressure. you could see the momentum beginning to change.
also, inspection of the bid ask walls was instructive. go back thru this thread and re read my warnings. especially the one about the bid wall @$2. lots of ppl around here called them fake. they aren't. you have to put up real money on mtgox to build a wall and ppl don't do it lightly b/c they can be hit by a market order before u can pull it down.
the best thing mtgox ever did for the community was to eliminate dark orders. everything now is transparent unlike the Spring.
i remember seeing that massive wall form at $2. i immediately sat up and wired a shitload of USD's to mtgox to join that wall. i don't remember exactly what the total amount of the wall ($150K i think) was but it was huge in comparison to the ask walls.
it was clear a line was being drawn in the sand and i helped make it. guys like Revalin will call that manipulation but i see it differently. the fundamentals of Bitcoin are there and those of us who recognize that took advantage of what clearly was an oversold price.
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You should buy back in before your profit evaporates.
The idea is to keep it open so that when we spike back up, I can sell again, then buy out when we spike down again, lather rinse repeat. first of all congrats on what looks to have been a tremendous short from $18. i agree with notme. if u believe we're headed back up towards $18, why not close the 1 BTC short now, then re short @ $18? in fact, if you had closed this 1 BTC short @ $2, you would have made an additional profits by this point. He dint short at $18 (was bitcoinica open then?), he shorted at a much lower price and the closed out all but 1BTC The way bitcoinica works is it recalculates the base price when you add or reduce a position. e.g. Short 2BTC at $10, bid drops to $5 bitcoinica shows: Base price $10 Buy 1BTC @ $5 bitcoinica shows: Base Price $15 Exactly. The idea is to keep my base price high on this account so I can have it locked & loaded when we reach the peak. this still doesn't make any sense. if u think the price is headed to say $15, you're best off buying to cover this 1 BTC short, keeping all your profits in USD until we hit $15, then re shorting from there. My base price isn't necessarily always this high ;-) first of all, if the price goes to $18, your base price for this 1btc will come down. if you then short 100 btc @ $18, your base price will then be less than $18, when added to the base price of the 1btc. if u close the 1btc short now, wait until the price hits $18, then short 100 btc @ $18, your base price will then be $18.
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Recently lots of people were short on bitcoinica (they were out of bitcoins for further sells). This might result in a nice litte short squeeze ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) . how recently?
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You should buy back in before your profit evaporates.
The idea is to keep it open so that when we spike back up, I can sell again, then buy out when we spike down again, lather rinse repeat. first of all congrats on what looks to have been a tremendous short from $18. i agree with notme. if u believe we're headed back up towards $18, why not close the 1 BTC short now, then re short @ $18? in fact, if you had closed this 1 BTC short @ $2, you would have made an additional profits by this point. He dint short at $18 (was bitcoinica open then?), he shorted at a much lower price and the closed out all but 1BTC The way bitcoinica works is it recalculates the base price when you add or reduce a position. e.g. Short 2BTC at $10, bid drops to $5 bitcoinica shows: Base price $10 Buy 1BTC @ $5 bitcoinica shows: Base Price $15 Exactly. The idea is to keep my base price high on this account so I can have it locked & loaded when we reach the peak. this still doesn't make any sense. if u think the price is headed to say $15, you're best off buying to cover this 1 BTC short, keeping all your profits in USD until we hit $15, then re shorting from there.
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Nagle will speak again if and only if price tops before $32 and heads back down towards new lows. So be careful what you wish for.
guys like him only speak when the price is going in the direction they want. me, i spoke just as loudly on the way down as i am on the way up. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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Let me clarify ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) No or little selling of BTC meaning USD low as in a ton of peeps or a few big guys are short. So time for a short squeeze ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Now I'm more confused.... Lots of people being short would mean low BTC.... which is it? I don't see either flag at the moment. well, if you're original explanations to me were correct, the OP has it wrong. if the * is showing up on the buy side and one can't buy BTC's, then the USD reserves have been depleted b/c everyone is long and no one is "selling BTC's". the shorts in this situation have been minimized, liquidated, or enduring immense pain. Zhou has guaranteed liquidity to the shorts in this situation so they can cover their positions even in the event of a red flag event. this was only recently supposedly implemented. note to shorts: let us know if this isn't the case. the opposite is true as in your equal opportunity screw job question: when everyone is selling BTC's and the shorts have piled up, the BTC reserve gets depleted and the USD reserves swell. when the BTC reserves are depleted, one cannot sell or short anymore thus generating a red flag event * on the ask side. the longs in this situation will also be guaranteed liquidity to get out of their positions in this situation unlike before all the complaints. note to longs: let us know if this is not the case.
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Wow I would have a hard time with the sound. Tap dripping all night long! Bitcoin project update! New and improved Sleep deprivation / Water Torture service. Free for the first 30days! can u imagine when it becomes one continuous roar?
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You should buy back in before your profit evaporates.
The idea is to keep it open so that when we spike back up, I can sell again, then buy out when we spike down again, lather rinse repeat. first of all congrats on what looks to have been a tremendous short from $18. i agree with notme. if u believe we're headed back up towards $18, why not close the 1 BTC short now, then re short @ $18? in fact, if you had closed this 1 BTC short @ $2, you would have made an additional profits by this point. He dint short at $18 (was bitcoinica open then?), he shorted at a much lower price and the closed out all but 1BTC The way bitcoinica works is it recalculates the base price when you add or reduce a position. e.g. Short 2BTC at $10, bid drops to $5 bitcoinica shows: Base price $10 Buy 1BTC @ $5 bitcoinica shows: Base Price $15 thanks for the clarification. Proudhon: notme is correct but do realize that liquidation means you'll accept any price to get out of your position even if it means a loss. limit orders are more safe and allows you to choose at which price you want your order executed.
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You should buy back in before your profit evaporates.
The idea is to keep it open so that when we spike back up, I can sell again, then buy out when we spike down again, lather rinse repeat. first of all congrats on what looks to have been a tremendous short from $18. i agree with notme. if u believe we're headed back up towards $18, why not close the 1 BTC short now, then re short @ $18? in fact, if you had closed this 1 BTC short @ $2, you would have made an additional profits by this point.
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Best Bitcoinica strategy = owning it.
Whats the best way to rob a bank? Own It.
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Not sure if you have table space for this... but a laptop or LCD sitting on the table with the bitcoin WebGL globe on it would be a great attention getter and conversation piece. You could also show the BitcoinMonitor.com page... these things should demonstrate visually how Bitcoin is something new and different, and the tech crowd should be quite receptive.
Even better - put one of these visuals on a large LCD tv behind your booth.
Good luck!
Even better - instead of those, we'll have the Blockchain.info set to ding every time a new transaction appears http://blockchain.info/new-transactionsthis is very funny. i'm now leaving that page tab open just to listen to the tx ding. you know how us fanatics need that constant stimulation...
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we all should be working toward layering an existing, real world currency over the top of Bitcoin.
THAT is the USD.
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Once again Bitcoinica is running low on USD. And according to Zhoutongs previous advice that means it's time for a squeeze ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) But if it is 'no selling' - the it would mean the opposite - that they are short on BTC not USD. but the OP didn't say "no selling", he said low USD's which means everyone's long; again. But the thread topic says "no selling". True: crap, don't ask me.
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Once again Bitcoinica is running low on USD. And according to Zhoutongs previous advice that means it's time for a squeeze ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) But if it is 'no selling' - the it would mean the opposite - that they are short on BTC not USD. but the OP didn't say "no selling", he said low USD's which means everyone's long; again.
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![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FhojMF.png&t=663&c=nfYIAPJ7C09bvg) What decided the price at which that trade was executed? As I understand it: The buy order was entered into the queue when Bitcoinica's buy hit 6.8010. It then became a market order, but wasn't executed immediately on Mt. Gox due to a number of delays in the system. Probably the spike down to 6.8010 and below was quite steep, so by the time the buy actually went through, the price on Gox had fallen further. You got lucky in other words. It could have gone the other way, too, and the spike might have only just touched 6.8, leaving your order unexecuted Someone correct me if I got this wrong... i think it is a function of the 4 sec delay btwn when u hit the buy button and when it executed. you were lucky enough to have a spike down during that 4 sec i would imagine.
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