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1641  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you actively spend your bitcoins? on: October 05, 2016, 12:13:07 PM
every day iam sending bitcoin
minimum iam send bitcoin use to trading
If you are sending every in trading and you are just losing it because you are not good in trading maybe that would quality to spending as in my definition spending is an expense and you will not get any return of what you spend, so you are in lose doing trading.
1642  Economy / Economics / Re: How too get rich on: October 05, 2016, 12:11:35 PM
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Actually most people are not trying, most people work their normal jobs all their life and wonder why they are not rich. You won't be rich working for someone else, that's why most people are not rich. Im not saying its easy but its not as hard as people think, confidence alone can make you rich

Easily said than done. Government doesn't want you to be rich, it wants you to work hard receiving small payments for your work. That's the nature of almost any government and if you would try to change the situation they will surely do everything they can to make you unsuccessful or to put you in jail if you are trying to succeed anyway.

There are exceptions of course, so you can try, who knows maybe you'll be one of the exceptions.
Althought we think that all of the Government are not just, all of our taxes are progressive. Which means that the higher your income the higher your taxes are. So it really is fair for people who earn low money you can even have tax exmeption for it. The idea of taxing is for the improvement of our publuc purpose if we don't see any progress maybe we are not looking far enough. Like the improvement of our economy.
Depends on the country you are living dude because every country has different tax rate, there are even country that collect bigger taxes for their people but they have a progressive country because their government officials are not corrupt. For me, I don't mind paying big taxes as long as for the benefits of everybody.
1643  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Off-Season on: October 05, 2016, 12:06:45 PM
The Golden State Warriors defeated the Los Angeles Clippers. Final Score (120 -75)

Warriors are making statement here, they are really good with Durant in the line up. I think they can perfect their home record this season.

What do you think guys? What are your NBA Futures Bet?
Can you share it here..? Grin
1644  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What keeps you coming back??? on: October 05, 2016, 11:57:57 AM
If you have ever experienced a win with gambling then you are going to think that it is possible to win money with gambling and you will try it again.
You then want to prove your self that you are going to win again and that is why people keep coming back.
it's happened everytime, someone so proud and confident to gamble after get an easy win for easy money. makes them to think do it time after time but didn't work. they would do it like a circle , try to gamble for fun > won it > but losing back > losing more money > bet more > and more > regret it and try to gamble again and so on.

Gambling is the easiest to thing to do in order to get some money back. So for people who has been working very hard and didnt earn a lot, this way of earning can be very attractive. That got them hooked.
without realizing that they will ruined their entire lifes after they hooked up keep coming back and keep losing from time, aiming to hit big and regain their loses i think that is the main reason why it keeps on coming back.
Actually they will not realize it until they experience the worst consequence of irresponsible gambling, when your intention to come back is because you want to win back your loses, for sure you will not succeed and you will regret you know gambling.
1645  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or Gold? What would you pick? on: October 05, 2016, 11:55:49 AM
I would choose bitcoin  since it has more volatile price compared to gold but  if  i have to  choose and  i have the money  i would definitely  choose  both because   these  two things would  give you profits  on  long terms for sure.
Actually if you are a trader you will be benefited much of the volatility of bitcoin, that's why good traders are now trading in the crypto world because they can make easy money doing some kind of day trading. Gold on the other hand is only good for long term investment and you need a good amount of capital to succeed.
1646  Economy / Economics / Re: If you were in desperate need for money.... on: October 05, 2016, 11:52:54 AM
The worst thing you can do at this point would be to gamble and allow luck to determine your fate. There are actually a lot of ways to earn in bitcoin. Aside from diligently fulfilling the max per day in your campaign, try to look at the services forum, there are several ways to earn there. Or do calculated trading. Just try to work harder and smarter if you're really in desperate need or ask help from people that you trust

whatever situation you are in, gambling is never a good way to make profit. eventually you'll lose it all to the house. trading is a great way to make profits assuming you have enough experience of course. trading without any experience is also some sort of gambling since the only thing you depend on is luck. especially when it comes to altcoin trading.
Gambling is never a good solution to make money when you are in desperate need money, we have already tried that and most of us failed. Like what we did in the past or even now that we are gambling for money because of our desperation to live a comfortable life from the money in gambling.
1647  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What keeps you coming back??? on: October 05, 2016, 08:37:38 AM
No question that it is the money that keeps us coming back, it is always the same reason if we lose or win in gambling as we still gamble.

If we lose, we chase, and if we win we want more winnings. I think we are being too greedy in gambling and that is not good as far as money is concern as instead of having fun everything will turn into a disaster that will ruin our life in the end.
Yes, most of the people will come back for money. Some people are lost money in gambling so they will come back to earn their loose. And some people are come back to make a profit. But I will play gambling just for fun. So like me also some people will come back. I will play gambling just for my relief not for money.
You have no difference from other people as you both are keep on coming back to gambling but with some different reasons.

There is no guarantee from not getting addictions when going for gambling just for fun. All the gamblers regardless of their purpose of gambling are vulnerable to have gambling addiction over time. Once you got addicted you will keep on coming back.
Weak people can easily be addicted in gambling so that should be there problem, if you find you can not capable on handling the stress in gambling, maybe you just stay away from gambling to avoid your life of being wreck.

Gambling is fun when you are winning but if you are losing... it is the other way you feel.
1648  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: hello i need a partner to do bets on: October 05, 2016, 08:35:08 AM
i need someone who can invest like 10$ btc and we do bets i will give you the bets and you do it on your directbets account and then we share earning
LOL! Are you kidding me? Are you selling your picks and you just want the others to take the risk why you get money when your picks will win. That is not fair and no one will agree on that agreement unless you have a very good track record.
1649  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: October 05, 2016, 08:18:17 AM
There are no safe ways of gambling because the odds are against you and there is nothing that can guarantee you a win with gambling. That is just how it goes.
Gambling does not let you know the outcome, if it would then it would not be gambling.
I think sports betting has a good odds, we can select an odds with 2 or higher so that is good than dice games where there is a house advantage. Most of the serious gamblers are focus in sports betting because it can be observed that we have greater chance winning here than other games.
1650  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is gambling made for kids???? on: October 05, 2016, 08:10:09 AM
Well, depends on the definition of gambling I guess. As soon as there is money on the line, I would say it is a definate no go. If not, it is a grey area.

I played a lot of black jack for fun when I was little. We even had a toy roulette table with play chips. We played cards all day, sometimes even with pennies.

I think it is human nature to have some sort of incentive to play. But when kids are involved, as soon as they risk to lose their sparse cash, I would say it is a no go.
That could be something considered like a training ground for kids to be a gambler in the future and that is not correct to train kids on that things as there are more important things they need to learn to make them a better person and a successful one on their field when they grow up and mature.
1651  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Quit Gambling. on: October 05, 2016, 08:03:40 AM
After a long time of play I learned this quit gambling is not easy task even we can give up suddenly, but as time passed away than again we start thinking to give try with little amount to get chance to recover some amount, I think it's easy to take break but for me it's not possible to quit completely while staying online.
Ya correct if you are staying online and you are a gambling addict then you cannot stop yourself from gambling again for the longer time.Because a wish to cover the loss is always in the mind and really its quiet impossible to stop yourself from gambling again.
It's always hard to quit in gambling but to start in gambling it is just easy, so we should be careful always in gambling as prevention is better than cure as they said.

It's good to enjoy but not too much as regular gambling will make you addicted.
1652  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will you quit your day job to go full time on bitcoin? on: October 05, 2016, 03:12:21 AM
why not? if you can get earn a lot of bitcoin
If I can get bitcoin 0.2 or 0.3 everyweek, I can do that to go full time on bitcoin and make a living with bitcoin.
0.2btc not a large amount of income for a week because one days you will get into trouble if leaving a job to work full time in bitcoin.


Yeah .2 btc every week is not enough because in full time job you can collect a constant salary every month but in case of bitcoin, it's price fluctuate and sometime price decrease and sometime increase so you will have to face these problems if you quit your full day job for bitcoin. So don't try to do this do this as a part time and get profit from bitcoin.

i think 0.2btc per week is not easy to get it, today 0,2btc is worthed arround $120 i think no sidejob or real job will give you the salary like that except you have highest skill in your qualification.
For sure its a huge ammount to earn, in the past you were able to get 0,10btc for signatures, soo if you present at two you could get such, now the rates are half then those, but its possible to earn those if you make signature and captcha service, but the time you will spend will be huge as well. And well i wouldnt left my job for a steady of 0,8btc , i would need something like 2-5 btc income, and even with that i wont left the work.

.2 - .3 btc a week is a small amount of money to earn but this one really depends on its buying power of a certain country. If it is in the first world country, of course it is way too small income because the expenses and bills are quit high (the cost of living) while certain countries in the third world countries, that amount is descent already because of the low cost living of the place.

I live in third world country and I am earning 0.5 btc per week and I am much satisfied with it, and if I could manage to earn the same amount in coming months then I will surely quit my job.
Just curious about those earnings where do you get such ammount, signatures just pay around 0,3-0.08btc weekly, where you investing or do you have a big ammount of bitcoin invested or some project kindly share a bit more how you eanr such big ammount.
I wouldnt left my job even earning 5 btc monthly, isnt something i would try to manage real work with the online potencial income.
I think that is even too much for me, I can live with 3 BTC living a simple life and do some leisure time sometimes. I wish I could increase my income online so I would not work anymore and I can spend more time with my family.
1653  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Everyone looses in the long run on: October 05, 2016, 03:09:14 AM
yes it is true, everyone will lose in the long run. an example of what I do on a gambling sport (soccer).
some of last week I always win, but in the end I lost again in large amounts. everyone knows yesterday was a bad weekend. almost all the big teams draw and loss.

That is the reason why many are losing in the end, because they tend to think that because they have won for sometime they still have enough funds to gamble. And because they have experience winning already they are going to think that if they are going to gamble again they have a chance to win again and again but what is happening is opposite.
We lose in the long run because that is how the gambling is design, most of us are just losers but we will not consider that as loses if we get the entertainment in gambling, actually those people who are only after of the money are having a big lose because they do not understand the risk and advantage that does not favor them.
1654  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Off-Season on: October 05, 2016, 03:03:02 AM
I read an article where Jason Terry said Kawhi Leonard is a B-Player, or if you put it in other words a supporting-cast type of player, not the main man. I beg to disagree with him because we all know how good Kawhi is and he can carry a team almost the same way as other franchise players do. It is just that he does his job quietly and with no-nonsense that is why people tend to undervalue him.

Actually Im agree on Terry. Also Spurs roster is really like that since then even prior to Duncan's arrival. No such thing as one man player in Spurs that will carry the team. The ball is always at rotation phase and every one is contributing. When you told Spurs to others, it's not just Tim Duncan as their first name to mentioned but also others will mention some of his teammate. Unlike in other team e.g when you say Lakers, Kobe, when you say Warriors, Steph Curry etc.

That's how good Popovich is when making some good plays. Spurs is a good example of a team that doesn't relying on one superstar.



Anyways about the preseason topic above, it's important since why the hell the NBA will create and make this preseason games if it's not making sense for a team.
Spurs win games because of unselfish plays, they work as a team and the spurs now are a greater team with gasol on board. Maybe people are just underestimating the Kawhi but we have seen him play already and he can match Lebron James. You will not be named as Finals MVP once if you are not recognized as a good player.
1655  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: is gambling fix your life? or wreck your life? on: October 05, 2016, 02:58:34 AM
I agree with most people in this thread that gambling will bring misery to the players in one day. then we should avoid gambling before the calamity. better to use other ways to get bitcoin, like bitcoin and altcoin trading

Indeed it will affect your life soon or later and after a while it can really wreck your life due to the fact that it can make you addicted and due to that you will lose a lot of money..

If you really want to stay away from this gambling then better try to stay away from Bitcoin. If you use Bitcoin then automatically, you enter gambling. It's common. So once you entered Gambling, then most of the people addict to this gambling very soon. Afterwards the gambling will wreck your life. I am playing gambling just for fun, but I am in losing it's wrecking my life.
thats true, gambling would make you lose all the money you have in my opinion thats why i dont do it
If you are not good in managing yourself in gambling you would surely lose your money and may ruin your life, that's is the sad reality because gambling is only for entertainment and only the gambling sites makes money from the losing bettors.
1656  Economy / Economics / Re: If you were in desperate need for money.... on: October 05, 2016, 02:48:20 AM
If a person needs money urgently the many options to get them there. I did not even need to resort to that to change their bitcoin. It would be unwise.
I had made a mistake, invested into a business that turned into a nightmare, i had requested my family to help me and they are helping me to clear out the debits i have, soo always search into your family (mother and father,brother) for help. If they doesnt able to help well try to find an extra labour to try handle the problem.

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invested into a business that turned into a nightmare

this is where most people dont understand - you take 1 huge risk that cant make you get back into the game.

but if we are investing in a business usually - you should be in a position to afford the loss. Or I wouldnt invest from the start.
That's because there is no easy way to make money, when you do business that does not ensure that you will make profit sometimes you also loss, but the most important thing their is you should be dedicated to your goal and you should also get up every time you fall.
1657  Other / Off-topic / Re: du you spend coins on real life. on: October 05, 2016, 02:16:45 AM
I spend bitcoin in my real life but for limited stuffs only since not much merchant accepted bitcoin yet. It'll be much interesting if I could use bitcoin to buy my daily necessity. And I am sure in the near future the number of offline merchants that accept bitcoin as an alternative payment will increase.
Not much merchant accepting bitcoins in most of the countries and same with mine as well but still i am able to use bitcoins in the online world which is a part of our daily life doing online shopping and paying bills are the things i used to do with my bitcoins.

If you cannot spend them directly then you can convert it to fiat and then spend and if you want to avoid conversion fees then you can start using bitcoin debit or credit card for shopping.

You can do this but its not directly and it also do not feel like spending them in real life, I think that spending them in real life is way nicer and the fact is that its directly would be nice.
I hope that I can do this in the future in my area.
Here in my country we can spend our bitcoin direct in online by paying our bills and some hotels accepting bitcoin as their mode of payment, but in local store they are not yet accept bitcoin and i am hoping soon they will adopt bitcoin in their businesses.
That's good to hear and that is a good improvement for bitcoin in your area, for sure there are more company that will partner with bitcoin or specifically your local exchange, that really provides convenience and comfort to the people, so I am happy to know that.
1658  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin can not replace fiat on: October 05, 2016, 02:13:45 AM
Bitcoin cant replace anything because i know that bitcoins exist out of dollars and i know for sure that fiat also depends out of dollars so they cant replace each other
I think the dollar is fiat and the same thing, dolar is including parts of the fiat. so I think bitcoin will not be able to change the currency of any let alone replace the system of world currencies are fiat? but is it possible that bitcoin could become a currency in a new country?


Legal tender are all fiat so it will never be replace by bitcoin, just think that bitcoin is not that popular over the world while fiat has been used for a long years, the popularity of fiat and the trust of the people is hard to beat by bitcoin, we should be contented on the usage of bitcoin that it is only for online transaction.
1659  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcoin Gambling Investments on: October 05, 2016, 02:02:13 AM
Anybody here have an idea what happened to Safedice? It says site is currently offline. I hope they're just having some fixing or site developments.

Good question. If the site isn't up over the next day I will try and contact the admin.
I think it is normal for safedice as I have also experience before when I invested and play in their site. They should be back to normal, and let's hope it is just some minor problem or update for the security of the site. If that happens always they will lose clients.
1660  Economy / Economics / Re: When do you buy Bitcoin ? on: October 05, 2016, 02:00:00 AM
I buy when it's relatively low like now and wait for the rise to happen. Because it eventually does happen. It just takes a matter of time that's all. Grin

do you really think that the bitcoin price wont go down from this price range,no one can really predict what is going to happen with the price of bitcoin and i would term this as a dangerous investment ,i would put some money in it but i dont want to risk more money in it at the moment.
The bitcoin price will raise till 2019 then it will double the current value of 500-600 dollars, the price will reach atleast 900 dollars in that period. Sure there is a risk into make a big investment but if you dont need those money on the next 4 years its time to invest and wait.

That is so long before it is going to happen because in my own honest opinion, that price of $1,000-$1,200 would be possibly happen on 2017. And if you want to get some profit on that year what you must do is to buy bitcoins today. Because the price today is still somehow low and don't wait the price to increase before buying.
There is a big possibility since we are very close already with the current price, bitcoin is full of surprises and even overnight we can witness a price skyrocket so that is not impossible, the only we should do not is investing in bitcoin as much as we can so we can make good profit.
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