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1641  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Obama says FCC should reclassify internet as a utility on: November 12, 2014, 08:21:25 PM
I knew there were some pitfalls, this coming from Obama. Nice chew-down, Wilikon.
1642  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 was shot down by an air-to-air missile on: November 12, 2014, 05:36:43 PM
What has Australian Prime Minister been sniffing?
http://finance.rambler.ru/news/economics/153538713.html?utm_source=news&utm_content=finance&utm_medium=midcol&utm_campaign=cross_promo
He suggested to Putin that Russia should apologise and pay compensation to the relative of the victims of MH-17 shot down over Ukraine (most probably by NATO-backed Kiev airforce)
1643  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Child kidnapping by the Norwegian State on: November 12, 2014, 04:51:16 PM
The situation is getting worse. Below is my speed-translation of two Russian. articles to English.

http://sledcom.ru/actual/420508/

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Investigation Committee started preliminary examination of the facts of the removal of children from Russian families in Norway

On the facts of the removal of children from families in Norway, Russian Main Investigation Department of Russian Federation initiated investigation verification. Today, the media became aware of the withdrawal by child protection services in Norway of a six-year girl from a Russian family, only shortly after when from the Russians of Pskov region, living in Norway, was seized five year boy. In each case, children under false pretenses were taken from their parents and placed in foster care.

As part of the preliminary examination it will be established circumstances of gross violations of the rights of Russian children under manifestly illegal acts by transferring them into foster care, and legal assessment of actions of officials, which resulted in a substantial violation of the rights and legitimate interests of Russian citizens. If criminal signs will be found in the actions committed against Russian children, Russian Investigative Committee will start criminal investigation based on the audit .

It should be noted that the penal laws of the Russian Federation gives us the right to prosecute, including foreign nationals, if they committed a crime against the citizens of the Russian Federation, regardless of where it occurs.

Particular attention SK Russia pays investigate crimes against minors and citizens of the Russian Federation intends all possible legal means, and promote the restoration and protection of the rights of children.



http://ria.ru/world/20141111/1032812504.html

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The Commissioner for Children's Rights under the President of the Russian Federation Pavel Astakhov said on Tuesday that the situation with the Russian boy Oscar Shionkom seized from their parents in Norway, has deteriorated dramatically.

The Norwegian authorities have taken  Oscar Shionk on October the 8th from the family of Russian citizens who temporarily come to work in the city of Tromso, after he told the school that his mother helped him remove his milk tooth. According to the Ombudsman, in a report written that it is the mother of "tooth was knocked out of the child." Earlier Astakhov reported that diplomats aware of 19 cases of withdrawal of Russian children from a families in Norway.

"At the moment, child protection services in Norway actually intimidate parents, as one of the channels showed interviews with Oscar's grandparents who said that the boy is better to return to Russia ... On this basis, child protection services have decided to transfer Oscar to another foster family. Introduced measures of secrecy, "- said Astakhov reporters in Minsk on Tuesday.

According to the commissioner, Oscar was allowed to meet with his parents, but it will not be allowed to tell his place of residence. "This is bullying parents so that they do to not talk to reporters," - said Astakhov. "We hope to be able to prove that the parents did not commit the fact that they are charged with, and that Oscar is returned to parents," - he added.

"Aggression from Norwegian authorities, who do not look at any laws nor to bilateral agreements, makes you wonder," - said Astakhov.

He pointed out that the boy was interrogated for five hours in a foreign language by psychologists and "lead to the conclusion that he allegedly did not want to return to his family." "But seeing him, showed that he seeks his family and wants to return mother, and this is very important. Child's desire, the desire for parents to prove that there was nothing in what the Norwegian authorities accused the family of Oscar " - said Astakhov.

BitMos, one of the Russian-speaking commentors on Rambler wrote something that resonates with your earlier comments:

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А нечего им доказывать, это акт агрессии против граждан России. США в таком случае минимум "морских котиков" вводят и преследуют по всему миру граждан страны - агрессора. Вы чему - нибудь у них научитесь? Давно было нужно посла отзывать, обьявить персонами нон-грата пол их посольства и всех их детей посольских на магадан, в семьи эвенков. И облет бомбовозов ежедневный начать, и т.д.

And stop proving anything to them, it is an act of aggression against Russian citizens. United States in this case sends at least "navy seals" and pursues worldwide citizens of the aggressor state. Have you learned anything from them? You should have long ago recalled the ambassador, announced half of their embassy as personas non grata and sent all their embassy children to Magadan, to forster Evenk families. And then let bombers start making daily overflies, etc.
1644  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: November 12, 2014, 04:36:58 PM
Human Rights Watch:

Ukraine, Syria: Incendiary Weapons Threaten Civilians
http://www.hrw.org/news/2014/11/10/ukraine-syria-incendiary-weapons-threaten-civilians
http://www.hrw.org/node/130433
1645  Other / Politics & Society / Obama says FCC should reclassify internet as a utility on: November 12, 2014, 04:31:13 PM
http://www.theverge.com/2014/11/10/7185933/fcc-should-reclassify-internet-as-utility-obama-says

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President Obama has come out in support of reclassifying internet service as a utility, a move that would allow the Federal Communications Commission to enforce more robust regulations and protect net neutrality. "To put these protections in place, I'm asking the FCC to reclassifying internet service under Title II of a law known as the Telecommunications Act," Obama says in a statement this morning. "In plain English, I'm asking [the FCC] to recognize that for most Americans, the internet has become an essential part of everyday communication and everyday life."

Might be a good move if it really protects net neutrality and is not a move to enforce more regulations.
1646  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: November 11, 2014, 05:29:00 PM
And here is the devil when you speak of her, myshownow:  Grin

Former East-German Communist Youth leader announced that new sanctions will inflict damage on the visa regime
http://www.aif.ru/politics/1379518
1647  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Crimea on: November 11, 2014, 05:26:08 PM
An interview with Natalia Poklonskaja, where she talks about her fight with corruption in Crime, ethnic problems (or rather, lack thereof) and maidan:
http://www.aif.ru/society/people/1365045

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"In those days, when the Republic of Crimea voted in favor of joining Russia and made its choice, E. Pomelov used this time for his own enrichment, thereby jeopardizing the reputation of power" - these words of Crimean prosecutor Natalia Poklonskaya as she read out the text of the charges in city Yalta court last Friday.

Tatyana Kuznetsova, "AIF": Natalia, at the trial of E. Pomelov, former Assistant Attorney Yalta, accused of extortion and accepting bribes, you personally are acting prosecutor. Can we call this process as instructive?

Natalia Poklonskaya: This process should be a lesson for others - those who will do so, will also sit on the dock. Because today in Crimea people look with hope to the State and the new government, believe that the situation is changing, that the law enforcement system would finally protect the interests of the people. Pomelov passed the exam and confirmed his right to work in the Russian prosecutor's office, immediately, almost in broad daylight, in public, near the prosecutor's office he then received a bribe!

...

- I want to say that in the Crimea lived and still live peacefully more than 125 nationalities - Greeks, Tatars, Uzbeks, Russian, Ukrainians, Armenians, and others. And there are no and cannot be conflicts on ethnic grounds - there is no reason for them. And all who will exploit this issue will get tough resistance. My daughter studies in the classroom and the Armenians, and Russian and Tatars and Ukrainians. They do not divide each other on nationality, they have one common life - school.

By the way, when I announced the second warning to Chubarov,  just a week later I started to receive letters from the Crimean Tatar population with words of support and gratitude. It appeared that such false-leaders before everything was permitted anything, but nobody cared about ordinary people.
1648  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Child kidnapping by the Norwegian State on: November 11, 2014, 05:17:35 PM
Here's a case where they had considered taking the child from the mother after she put him on a diet: http://www.newsinenglish.no/2014/11/09/boy-found-dead-probably-starved/

Such cases are tragic, they are also rare, and could be solved by CPS closely observing suspect families, providing guidance, education, daily/weekly visits by CPS representatives. But that is a more expensive method than "just" taking the child away. Instead of oiling a car to fix it, you hit it with a hammer.

Can prevention of such cases as above outweigh the suicides (50 in Norway in 2011) committed by the children that were forcefully taken from their families?
1649  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Child kidnapping by the Norwegian State on: November 10, 2014, 06:44:28 PM
Some reports by The Nordic Commitee for Human Rights:
http://www.nkmr.org/en/

Summary and Report to the European Parliament Petitions Committee: Child Removal Cases in Denmark, Finland, Norway and Sweden
http://www.nkmr.org/en/english1/146-organisation/frontpage/2524-summary-and-report-to-the-european-parliament-petitions-committee-child-removal-cases-in-denmark,-finland,-norway-and-sweden

http://www.nkmr.org/docs/Report_to_the_European_Parliament_Petitions_Committee.pdf

From the report:
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Background
Since the beginning of the 20th Century, the Nordic countries all have laws which give the social welfare authorities the power to forcibly remove children from the care of their parents - on what appears to be arbitrary grounds - and place them in foster homes, or institutions, among total strangers. From 1920 to the present day, more than 300 000 children in Sweden have been removed from their homes and placed in compulsory foster care. The statistics for Norway, Finland and Denmark seem to be a little lower.

CONFERENCE on the CHILD REMOVAL PROCEEDINGS in the COUNCIL of EUROPE MEMBER STATES and Related Human Rights Issues
http://www.nkmr.org/en/english1/146-organisation/frontpage/2563-conference-on-the-child-removal-proceedings-in-the-council-of-europe-member-states-and-related-human-rights-issues
1650  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Child kidnapping by the Norwegian State on: November 09, 2014, 08:33:03 PM
Collecting signatures to return Oskar home
http://www.citizengo.org/ru/13085-norvegia-verni-oskara-domoy

Norway, return Oscar Shianok to his parents!

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On 8 October five-year-old boy Oscar Shianok was seized on spurious grounds from the family of Russian citizens by the Norwegian authorities.

Removal children from their parents without grave reasons causes severe psychological trauma to children. It is violence and abuse of children and their parents by the state.

The actions of the authorities of Norway concerning Oscar and his family are violating international Human Rights Law, in particular Article 8 of the Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms and Articles 3 and 9 of the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child.

I demand to stop these acts of cruelty and immediately take all the measures for returning Oscar to his parents. I also urge the authorities of Norway to cooperate actively with the representatives of Russia in this case for the better protection of the boy’s interests.

The child can now meet once a week and Russian language was allowed. The child cried when it was time to be separated from his mother after an hour's meeting and was asking to go home with parents. Oh, and he lost another tooth - it's that time of his life - and was proudly showing it to his mother:
http://lifenews.ru/news/143968

The parents can now see the child once a week. Russian officials have still not been granted right to see the child either:
http://rapsinews.ru/international_news/20141029/272484790.html

A demonstration was conducted at Norwegian embassy:
http://www.ivan4.ru/news/yuvenalnaya_yustitsiya/piket_u_posolstva_norvegii_v_podderzhku_malchika_oskara/

And another case!!!
On the 31st of October another child - a 6-year old Russian girl - was abducted from her parents by Norwegian authorities. Astahov (Russian child protection representative) will discuss the worsening situation in Norway with UN's representative on the 12th of November in Minsk.
http://tass.ru/obschestvo/1547613
1651  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: November 09, 2014, 07:43:58 PM
An interesting interview with the Dutch journalist Olaf Koons, which I translated to English:

http://stanislavs.org/dutch-journalist-truth-in-the-war-in-the-ukraine-plays-a-minor-role/

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Dutch journalist Olaf Koons, visited many times the hot spot in the east of Ukraine, and shared with the “AIF” his opinion about what he saw.

The western journalist has an opportunity to cover the conflict from both warring sides.
1652  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: November 04, 2014, 06:21:30 PM
Congratulations to LNR and DNR on their next democratic step to statehood. The international observers declared the elections to have been a success and with a good turn-out. Interestingly, these observers were declared as personas non-grata by Kiev (and their Washington handlers) in Ukraine, as neither US nor Ukraine can have any of this democracy nonsense, where people actually have a deciding power.

DNR and LNR proclaimed that they are ready for a political and economical dialogue with Kiev, with regard to diplomatic relations between the states and the trade with, for example, coal.

Kiev is on the other hand hysterical, pulling the "special status for Donbass" law that they passed only a few weeks ago (Donbass said, thank you) Smiley
http://itar-tass.com/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/1550823

Kiev is also sending troops to Harkov and Mariupol, while the "American Terrorist Operation" (ATO) troops shelled today Donetsk with ignition munitions:
http://top.rbc.ru/politics/04/11/2014/5458fec8cbb20f85685e1030
http://ria.ru/world/20141104/1031645030.html
It's high time for the USA to send to Kiev some napalm left-overs from the Vietnam war to up the atrocities even further.

A column with humanitarian aid from the Russian Ministry of Disasters crossed the border after undergoing the customs procedure. 10 trucks headed to Donetsk and 10 to Lugansk:
http://ria.ru/world/20141104/1031636792.html

By the way, those interested in the view from the freedom fighters' camp, can read the following translated article:
http://stanislavs.org/everyone-has-a-grudge-against-ukrainehow-teachers-and-workers-become-militias/


1653  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Child kidnapping by the Norwegian State on: November 01, 2014, 09:49:44 AM
Meanwhile a child, will one day, sooner than we may think, not even recognizes his mother (language).

That is so. A 5-yo child forgets his mother tongue (and a great deal other things) within 5-6 month of disuse. I know a Russian-language teacher, who struggled keeping up the language level of the immigrant parents' kids. It was especially difficult if the family was mixed and the everyday language at home was Norwegian.

And interesting shift in politics: Initially that education was called "mothertongue teacher" (morsmållærer), but later was re-branded into "dual-language teacher" (tospråklig lærer) and the stated goal was changed from teaching the kid his mother tongue to helping him to assimilate through his mother tongue.

That harvested kid should have been given Russian language lessons ho help him, instead he is forbidden to speak the language.
1654  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Child kidnapping by the Norwegian State on: October 31, 2014, 08:24:08 AM
Seems to me you must have some kind of grudge against the childrens protection service, to each his own.

No, I have a grudge against unfairness. Slavery, murder, war, corruption, genocide and loss of family values would entice the same kind of anger from me. Did people know that in Germany, if a 10-year-old kid refused to attend sexual education classes, where, among other things, it is shown how to properly insert penis into vagina, then ParentNumberOne and ParentNumberTwo (formerly known in the dark unenlightened ages as Mother and Father) can be fined and imprisoned.

I have no grudge against Norwegian CPS, but if they did their proper job, they would have cooperated with Russian CPS and transferred the Russian minor citizen to Russia.

Now back to the case at hand.

Astahov, the head of the Russian child rights protection government committee posted yesterday on Twitter that the kid was for the first time since the beginning of October allowed to see his parents. The meeting lasted only for 1 hour (hardened criminals get more meeting time with their families while in prison than this innocent 5-year-old). The child and the parents were forbidden to speak Russian - the meeting had to be conducted in Norwegian! So, the reprogramming after child-harvesting has already started. A 5-year-old, if he does not use his mother tongue, will start to forget it after about a month, and will adopt the dominant language of his surrounding instead.
1655  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Child kidnapping by the Norwegian State on: October 28, 2014, 06:24:46 PM
I was following the Norwegian news outlets closely after the incident was reported on Russian media. Zero mention. The parents did say in the interview to the Russian channel that they were warned/threatened not to tell media or else they'll never see their child again. So I entirely believe the sincerity of the first Norwegian commetor saying:

You make it seem like this is something that happens regularly in Norway but that is not the case.

Interpolating from the statistics, since the Russian kid was abducted from his family and I created this thread, about 90 kids suffered the same fate.

I read the Russian comments on Rambler, and they ranged in spectrum from ones blaming Norway:

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Over 100 children are killed in the East of Ukraine, and not a single muscle twitches on the collective face of Norway. While a mother does what she is supposed to do, and a kid is taken from her.
Through ones blaming parents:

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That'll teach them how to hunt for the extra buck and lose what's most precious, their child.

(I don't agree with such accusations: the parents usually do so to give their kids and better start in life, and how were they to know about such barbaric practices?)

And to the ones blaming Russian authorities:

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Where is the consulate now?

With this I agree. Russia is usually too lenient and soft in its international affairs, seeking to gain approval and being abused because of that. If Russia held a more strict line, such cases would be non-existant.

I also read about a similar fate suffered by a Russian family in the USA. Their two sons were taken from them by CPS, separated and adopted into different families. The older boy escaped and returned to his parents, after which he was not taken the second time (the CPS probably deemed him too old to be reprogrammed), while the family lost their younger son forever.

I guess we'll never know what happened to this Russian boy in Norway, as it happens with thousands of similar cases...
1656  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: October 28, 2014, 06:22:45 PM
Yesterday, the living legend, the singer Iosif Kobzon visited Donetsk People's Republic. He was born in the Donetsk region, so it was coming back to his homeland, despite the impotent prohibition coming from Kiev. Previously Kobzon was barred from entering Latvia and attending the musical festival in Jurmala. All because he said that it self-determination of people of Crimea and Novorossia is their democratic right.
Kobzon has the title of People's Artist of USSR and is an honour citizen of 7 cities in the Donetsk region. During his visit, which many consider heroic (The self-defence forces had to work extra hard to provide him with a safe passage) he brought with him humanitarian aid in the form of insulin to a diabetes medical centre that was started for medication by Kiev and people with diabetes there survived entirely on medication supplied by Russia. And of course he performed for and with people in schools and in the Donetsk Opera house. Today h was scheduled to come to Lugansk.

1657  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is the West gearing up to invade Russia once again? on: October 26, 2014, 03:44:14 PM
Russia's Foreign Minister Lavrov attended the 70 years celebration of liberation of Finnmark (Northern Norway) from German Nazis by Soviet forces.
Tabloid VG had a 6-page material with an exclusive interview of Lavrov under a neutral title of "That's how Russia thinks now". The presentation of Lavrov and the interview itself were balanced and to the point, at times cautiously optimistic. The only negativity came with a customary dig at Putin with an article titled "Vladimir's World" that presented some "expert" interpretations of the interview.

All in all, that edition was much better than what was seen in the Western media during the last half-a-year.

An interesting aside. On Wednesday Norway said that they will not be sending F-16 to bomb Syria, excusing themselves (in an apologetic tone) before the US and saying that we need the F-16 to "keep an eye on Russia".  Cheesy I think Norway is loath to repeat the Yugoslavia mistake.
1658  Other / Politics & Society / Re: ISIS - things are about to get a little bit rocky on: October 26, 2014, 03:15:37 PM
Russia wasn't allowed to feed bombarded civilians in Donetsk, but US can "accidentally" drop weapons to ISIS.

They have also accidentally bombed the anti-ISIS Kurdish forces and civilians, as well as accidentally dropping weapons (explosives) to ISIS a couple of days ago.

And now the reason for ISIS creation coalesces into form:
US is to bomb oil pipelines in Syria so as to "prevent ISIS from earning money" from selling oil. Why not bomb the countries that buy oil from ISIS (Turkey) and close the ISIS bank accounts in Europe. Instead Syrian infrastructure will be destroyed, as initially planned.
http://ria.ru/world/20141024/1029854660.html
1659  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Child kidnapping by the Norwegian State on: October 24, 2014, 12:38:57 PM
edit3: and if there was really a problem with this family, why not sent them back to Russia and inform the Russian State?

That's basically what I said in the OP. If they really objective was caring about the child and minimising trauma to it, it should have been transferred to the Russian CPS, where he would be in familiar cultural and language surroundings. In this case the objective seems to be getting hold of the child himself.

It is pure stupidity to asume you're running the risk of having your kid taken away from you while on vacation in Norway, unless you actually do something of the above mentioned.

I forgot to address this question. It was mentioned in the interview of the Russian consulate in Norway, where the little-known particularities of the law were explained. As long as you are on Norwegian soil, irregardless of the reasons you are there, the law extends on you. Saw CPS has the authority over you both when you are a citizen, a worker (as in this case), or an illegal immigrant (as in the 2011 case). It also, in theory, applies to you if you are just passing on a transit.

Since you are from Norway, what is your opinion on this sociological analysis OP?

The OP is NOT overreacting. CPS is a front for child sex trafficking all over the world. What makes you think these people care about breaking up a few families?

As a foreigner who lived in Norway for a long time and observe the society from the sidelines, so to speak, I'd say your assessment is pretty accurate. The privilege of awarding the Peace Prize does not help either...

As for trafficking, I don't know. My greater concern is a potential for organ harvesting. What happened in those 50 child suicide cases (in 2011) after the children got separated from the families..?
1660  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Child kidnapping by the Norwegian State on: October 24, 2014, 07:57:56 AM
I was trying to wrap my head around what was happening and one word kept popping up in my mind:

Slavery.

Slavery can take many form. Labour slavery, sex slavery, this is child slavery. They all satisfy some needs that cannot be satisfied domestically: more workforce, more women, more children. These abducted kids (about 10 each day as per statistics) are grown detached from their origins, taught to be good Norwegians.

This happened before in history:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janissaries

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From the 1380s to 1648, the Janissaries were gathered through the devşirme system which was abolished in 1638. This was the taking (enslaving) of non-Muslim boys, notably Anatolian and Balkan Christians;

Note that also in the Norwegian cases, mos children are under 6 years old, in an age, when they can be easily "re-programmed".

This kid still has his younger sister, who is free. Hopefully she'll come looking for him in 15-16 years' time, once she is of age...
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