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16521  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Splitting Bitcoin into Bitcoin Gold in Electrum wallet - how to? on: October 28, 2017, 04:27:06 AM
The only way I'm seeing on how to claim BTG is via their website getbtcgpu.org

it is NOT their website. most probably a scam website!

bitcoin gold does not yet exist. their fork is a little bit different from others such as bitcoin cash. what they did was that they took bitcoin's blockchain from start until block height 491407 and when they release their coin in the future (probably in a month from now) they will build on top of that.

link to "real" website: http://btcgpu.org/
source code on github: https://github.com/BTCGPU/BTCGPU
16522  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Bter closing, forced to stop tradng, Advice needed on: October 28, 2017, 04:15:46 AM
it doesn't matter what they are calling bitcoin cash. they can call it BCC, BCH, or potato, in the end all of them are the same thing. just remember to give them a "bitcoin cash address" and not a "bitcoin address" when you are making a withdrawal.

for that you can use any other exchange that has a bitcoin cash market: https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin-cash/#markets
16523  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will the currency fluctuate around $ 6,000 and will rush to $ 8,000? on: October 28, 2017, 04:13:14 AM
November will be a demarcation point, feeling the possibility of 8,000 yuan is relatively large

8000 yuan? bitcoin is currently 35,700 CNY! you think it can go that low or are you confusing CNY with USD? because 8000 yuan is about 1200 USD and that is not going to happen.

as for 8000 dollar, it may not happen this year. we already had enough rise for one year if you ask me. and with SegWit2x drama i believe everything will be put on hold and postponed to next yer. in 2018 you can see $8000 easily enough though.
16524  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Confirmation are taking forever to process, is it only me? on: October 28, 2017, 04:04:49 AM
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Fact Segshit coin sucks , and many like you ignore that.

the "Fact" is that bitcoin cash is no different from bitcoin in this issue. you just don't see the issue yet because nobody is using bitcoin cash.
https://bitcoincash.blockexplorer.com/blocks
a quick look at the previous blocks by BCH shows that they are all empty blocks with either 0 transaction or less than 30! and you "think" you have fixed the same issue you are making fun of. but in reality the problem exists even worst in bitcoin cash you just don't see it now.
16525  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you think it matters who Satoshi Nakamoto is/was? on: October 28, 2017, 03:57:33 AM
My personal take on it is that Bitcoin may actually be harmed if the authorities catch up with Satoshi Nakamoto. I think we all saw the crap that Dorian Nakamoto had to go through when he got fingered as the creator of Bitcoin. They could conceivably wring all sorts of false "confessions" out of him if they are determined enough to discredit Bitcoin and Satoshi Nakamoto's reasoning behind creating Bitcoin.

i disagree.
what you said could have been true back in many years ago when people weren't much familiar with bitcoin and it was early days of it. by then Satoshi was bitcoin so anything wrong with Satoshi could reflect on bitcoin too. but now there is a much bigger  developers team and people realized that bitcoin is not centralized to one person or even a group of people to be "harmed" if something goes wrong with them.
16526  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is decentralized then who do the forks? on: October 28, 2017, 03:50:26 AM
the developers do the coding since they are the ones who are capable of doing it.
then the miners look at their proposals and if they like it they start showing their support by "voting". it will be a change in the version number of the blocks to show that "vote".
then if it reaches enough support the fork happens.

this is what Satoshi refereed to as 1 CPU 1 Vote IIRC.
but since in Satoshi time, a miner was also a node, things were different. now nodes are separate from miners. they do get a vote too, not as strong but still a vote. for example if a big enough part of the network  decides they don't want the blocks miners are creating (for example in case of them not voting for SegWit) they can reject their blocks and force them to accept the fork proposal.
16527  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Confirmation are taking forever to process, is it only me? on: October 27, 2017, 09:17:11 AM
transactions taking too long to confirm can have a lot of different reasons. the most obvious one that someone else also mentioned is the number of unconfirmed transactions which has grown a lot lately. and that is most probably your issue too.

but there also can be some issue with your transction. for example your transaction may be spending unconfirmed transaction(s) and until they are confirmed your tx will remain unconfirmed and they may take a lot of time to confirm too.

So either pay an insanely high transaction fee on segshit coin or in the future use Bitcoin Cash (The Real Bitcoin) with it 8MB , it has none of the transaction backlog of segshit and it fees are very low instead of very high.

a lot of altcoins that are never used and have 99% empty blocks have low fees because there is no competition for that space.
it doesn't matter if these altcoins have 100 bytes max block or 100 giga bytes blocks, they will remain empty.
16528  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Electrum on Puppy Linux - Offline Bitcoin Wallet on USB stick on: October 27, 2017, 08:09:57 AM
2.    Rufus - download portable version from https://rufus.akeo.ie

i prefer UUI (Universal USB Installer). it works for all the linux distributions out there and it is much faster. i have never encountered any issues with it either.
i find Rufus a bit complicated too.

this is a good website for these kind of stuff too: https://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
16529  Economy / Speculation / Re: Winter of BTC is coming. on: October 27, 2017, 07:59:21 AM
as you know, the price of btc is down slowly.and, the market cap is also down slowly.
neither of these two are "down" slowly or fast-ly Wink
the price is rising, whether you see it or not, is your problem. you have to look at the charts not the price alone an when you do remember to zoom out. you will see the price rising if you do that.

and the market cap, despite being absolutely meaningless, is also rising with the rise of price and mining of new coins (supply).

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so many shit ico, they just want money.develop a shit app or develop nothin,just want your money.
the projects which can't change the world or change the technology of blockchain are all shit.
Winter is coming,we should sleep in day and night. wait 2019.
shitcoins have been produced for nearly as long as bitcoin existed. that never changes anything. every person who has ever looked at the altcoin market knows that perfectly well and them being created non stop for years never has anything to do with "winter coming" or not.


next time try and find something relevant before repeating the "winter is coming" nonsense.
16530  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Is Leaving Other Digital Coins in the Dust - What's your opinion? on: October 27, 2017, 07:53:01 AM
there are two things i don't like about it. first is the title of it which is talking about bitcoin leaving other digital coins in the dust which in my opinion is meaningless because that is nothing new! bitcoin is bar far ahead of the rest of them, and that is because of its usefulness whereas altcoins are absolutely useless!

then the notion of the forks which  the article mostly focused on. saying things like "bonus of additional coins" is generally a dangerous way of thinking which will lead to a lot of headache for a lot of weakly designed forks like bitcoin gold which may even lead to loss of bitcoin because of a lot of faults of these poorly coded forks. replay attacks, leaking your private keys are two that comes to mind.
16531  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you really beleive in the cryptocurrency market? If YES, why ? on: October 27, 2017, 07:42:59 AM
there is a lot of potential in bitcoin and also in some rare altcoins which nobody pays much attention to because bigger altcoins have taken their place on top of the lists!

so yeah i believe in the future of bitcoin and those rare altcoins. i also believe in the future of this technology, and also that means the market for these technologies will grow bigger with more adoption and more interest from people.
it is mostly because of the decentralized feature of them and then the rest of the features such as cheapness, speed and security.
16532  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Blocks mined by Unknown? on: October 27, 2017, 07:35:56 AM
it is just blockchain.info failing to figure out who mined those blocks

example:
https://blockchain.info/block/000000000000000000305204772044cd219ca2ed4323c4a541d48924a1a5a03d
BC.I shows Unknown.

the coinbase transaction shows it was mined by "ckpool"
https://blockchain.info/tx/f2b7d7f6c0dea618cfb9774fad5f93dc8d64bb18a5043a9dd19bf758f2c43665?show_adv=true
look at that second output which BC.I shows as "Unable to decode output address" in red, that is an OP_Return output which contains some text which you can see at the bottom.
16533  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Long term, fork after fork ? on: October 27, 2017, 06:58:00 AM
So what is a reasonable expectation long term with regards to forks and code changes ?
Forks expected every month or two ?

when the project is open source and you can simply earn a lot of money by just forking it, that means any idiot with basic programming knowledge is going to fork bitcoin and create some shitcoin and call it a "cryptocurrency", but calling it doesn't make it true ever.

i recently said, there have been 667 forks of bitcoin. what you see these days is essentially the same just a different way of doing an airdrop and it actually makes things harder for users of that coin because of the big bitcoin blockchain! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2292712.0
16534  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Questions about Fork and Bitcoin Gold on: October 24, 2017, 05:41:39 AM
~ Or you can store you btc to exchanges that supports the fork. You can try Yobit, Hitbtc. Bittrex just announced lately that they are now going to support the upcoming hard fork also. ~

it is already too late to do this. you had to deposit your bitcoin on these exchanges before the so called snapshot was taken at block 491,407 (which is 35 blocks ago).

from now on, the only option is waiting until they release a wallet, then the blocks start being mined then you make a transaction using their wallet and your keys to send your coins to exchanges to sell.
16535  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Questions about Fork and Bitcoin Gold on: October 24, 2017, 05:25:49 AM
I also have 0.5 bitcoins in my electrum wallet and i have private keys of that too...but where i will recieve bitcoin gold..will another bitcoingold wallet launch after that.

you have to wait for the Bitcoin Gold developers team to finish up coding! the project is very incomplete right now and there are a lot of issues they need fixing, some of them serious like implementing a strong two way replay protection. and until they do that, there is no way for you to "receive bitcoin gold".

what you currently see on exchanges is nothing more than IOUs. like some virtual numbers on your screen.
16536  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Price Lingers Below $6k As Post-Fork Altcoin Rally Expected on: October 24, 2017, 05:17:32 AM
it was not the post fork money flowing back from bitcoin to altcoins. it was the fact that bitcoin price went down only because people expected it to go down like this and also because of the fact that this reversal always helps altcoins that have been dropping for a couple of days consistently to make a recovery.

and now they are just recovering from all that dump to gain back some small part of their price.
16537  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Questions about Fork and Bitcoin Gold on: October 24, 2017, 05:08:05 AM
What exactly is fork? Or Hard fork?
think of fork as a change. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fork_(software_development)

bitcoin is a set of codes and rules known as consensus rules, usually in bitcoin when you change those rules we call it creating a fork. sometimes it is done to fix an issue (bitcoin's first hard fork years ago) sometimes it is done to add some features or "upgrade" like SegWit or previous fork for adding P2SH.

other times you can change these consensus rules to create something new. like changing block time and  mining algorithm (litecoin), block size (bitcoin cash), mining algorithm (bitcoin gold) and lots of others. we call these altcoins.
sometimes these use bitcoin code only like litecoin and sometimes they also use the blockchain like the other two.

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I heard that those who own bitcoins before 25th Oct will receive Bitcoin Gold. How does it actually work? Do I receive Bitcoin Gold automatically in my electrum wallet or do I need to do it manually?
they set a block height (491,407) and anyone who had any amount of bitcoin before that block will receive the equal amount of the new coin (BTG). it is because they will use the same "database" (blockchain) and the same keys.
so in your wallet as long as you have the private keys (which you do when you use electrum) you have the coins. you use the same key to spend them on the other chain.

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And if I have 0.12 btc how much would I receive in bitcoin gold? And does the value of my btc change ?
you already have 0.12 bitcoin gold too.
bitcoin price may or may not change because of it!
16538  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: how to recover bitcoingold coins from blockchain wallet? on: October 24, 2017, 04:51:02 AM
Ff. I store my btc on an exchange where I don't have access to my privatekey. If I send my coins now to a wallet which I have the privatekey, will I still have bitcoingold coins to claim once it's released tomorrow?

no because the plan was to take a snapshot of block 491,407 (it is always the block height that matters not the date and time) and that is already done (we are at block 491,440 now) so unless Bitcoin Gold team changes their mind and plans, you are out of luck.
16539  Economy / Exchanges / Re: I've got bitcoin on Bittrex. How are they going to handle the fork? on: October 24, 2017, 04:47:24 AM
I have got bitcoin on Bittrex. What's gonna happen when the fork happens?
by the time they decide to credit your account you can open your wallet and see (1:1) equal amount of BTG in your wallet under a new coin name. all automatically.

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What exchanges have said that they are going to charge automatically Bitcoin Gold on the balance?
i know about Yobit and Bleutrade that have already had the market, credited the coins and also people have been trading BTG.

see their website for a bigger list: http://btcgpu.org/#ecosystem
16540  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Next SegWit in November? 494784 on: October 24, 2017, 04:34:10 AM
The revolution happened today another split occured known as bitcoin gold.
the correct term is "another altcoin was created".

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Helps small miners ,
aka GPU-miners like those who have been mining ETH,... and no longer can.

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all bitcoin holders holding 1 btc get $450 approx for free etc.
false.
all bitcoin holders received 1 BTG which is changing value so fast. i got about $1000 per coin yesterday. others get $400 and soon they may get $1000 again or $100

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What do you think alts have finally started to increase by great numbers
3 words: dead cat bounce Grin

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Will btc reach $7k this time? Alts going to crash again or people will stop caring for forks?
nobody really cared about this fork anyways and it is too soon for $7k
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