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1661  Economy / Speculation / Re: Arepo's Detailed Price Analysis and Projections on: April 22, 2013, 10:10:40 PM
Me! Me!
1662  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Softcore Lounge on: April 22, 2013, 06:12:25 AM
Agreed. The uncertainty is killing me.
1663  Economy / Speculation / Re: the ultimate inflection point on: April 22, 2013, 05:21:55 AM
Report? Where? How much?
1664  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Roger Ver and Jon Matonis pushed aside now that Bitcoin is becoming mainstream on: April 21, 2013, 07:49:13 PM
So it is A-OK to drive drunk as long as you don't happen to get in a crash and kill someone?

Normally I would try to keep this thread on topic, but I have a big grudge against how drunk driving is handled.

Is it OK to drive drunk? No, people should be educated and shown why it's wrong.
However, the laws in places (claiming to protect citizens from drunk driving) are doing just the opposite.
This is where all the hypocrisy of the situation arises.

Being drunk slows down your reaction time. If you have to drive home, you should drive slower, say 20 km/h, for example.
But because there's bad laws in place, you have an incentive to drive faster,
otherwise the cops will see you driving at 20 km/h and say "Hum, that's odd... he's probably drunk, let's arrest him."

So while the laws in place are claiming to protect the citizens, they are adding incentives for dangerous speedy drunk driving.
If you want to use the government to reduce drunk driving accidents, you should offer free lifts to whomever might need it,
in addition to bringing their car home.
1665  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Roger Ver and Jon Matonis pushed aside now that Bitcoin is becoming mainstream on: April 21, 2013, 07:00:17 PM
This week's Ed and Ethan's Bitcoin cast is related.

Enjoy!  Grin
1666  Economy / Speculation / Re: the ultimate inflection point on: April 21, 2013, 05:10:52 AM
"this sentence has fifteen words, seventy-four letters, four commas, one hyphen, and a period."

What black magic is this?!?!
1667  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin terrorism FUD: discussion, sans politics. on: April 21, 2013, 04:03:06 AM
I think the Bitcoin ATM is a great way to achieve this goal. Any ideas on the price and availability?
1668  Economy / Speculation / Re: Government banning bitcoin?? on: April 21, 2013, 03:58:41 AM
If all else fails, there's still taxes on land and buildings.
1669  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Roger Ver and Jon Matonis pushed aside now that Bitcoin is becoming mainstream on: April 21, 2013, 03:35:30 AM

It seems he was fighting for freedom against mice by using M-80's


He did time for that?

Eh, kids these days have it easy. They don't even commit real crimes and they go to prison.
In my time someone had to be really bad for that!

*Shakes fist angrily*
1670  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Thepiratebay.se is accepting bitcoin donations on: April 21, 2013, 03:10:55 AM
inb4 some ISP hijacks their traffic and replaces the BTC address.
HTTPS?
1671  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Thepiratebay.se is accepting bitcoin donations on: April 21, 2013, 03:05:33 AM
Yay! First time I can really support them.  Cheesy
1672  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Roger Ver and Jon Matonis pushed aside now that Bitcoin is becoming mainstream on: April 21, 2013, 01:49:33 AM
Here's the link to the forum's thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=177631.0
1673  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2013-04-15 Consult Hyperion Podcast: Jon Matonis, Bitcoin Foundation on: April 21, 2013, 01:10:29 AM
Wow, that was absolutely brilliant!
1674  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: April 20, 2013, 11:37:18 PM
I'm interested in this as well.
Anyone knows the price and availability?
1675  Economy / Speculation / Re: My Opposite Take on the "UP UP UP!" Mentality. on: April 20, 2013, 09:22:52 PM
That's like saying "do you think wordpress and others will switch to another scammer when they will be screwed by their credit cards processor?"

I understand that you think bitcoins are overpriced and all (with pretty good arguments), but this one is just dishonest.
1676  Economy / Speculation / Re: My Opposite Take on the "UP UP UP!" Mentality. on: April 20, 2013, 09:15:50 PM
That's why there's also BIPS.
1677  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Roger Ver and Jon Matonis pushed aside now that Bitcoin is becoming mainstream on: April 20, 2013, 08:52:03 PM
Roger Ver would, I suppose, be a good example of an anarchist who may be able to be non-political (in public at least), but he's got the whole (unrelated) criminal history problem.

I don't see how that's relevant.
Even less than political views in fact.
Especially since it's unrelated.
1678  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Roger Ver and Jon Matonis pushed aside now that Bitcoin is becoming mainstream on: April 20, 2013, 08:00:02 PM

The problem is that they project their political ideas on Bitcoin, with things such as representing Bitcoin as being a tool used to bring about anarchy. Matonis, at least, seems to be encouraging people to break the law almost every time he talks about Bitcoin.
The general objection against Roger Ver is that he has a criminal history. And not just some debatable crime (eg, drug-related or statutory), but selling explosives.s.

See, this is what is hypocritical in this approach.

You have a tool that was explicitly created to give power to individuals.
If you were to weed out people based on their political views, it should be those who don't adhere to this view.
This would be a bad idea, because discarding people because of their political views is just intellectually dishonest.

We had the Cyprus story. Did anyone here said "Oh c'mon guys, what they did in Cyprus was chosen by their government;
we should not encourage them to use Bitcoin to save some of their saving." ?

Is there anyone here saying that we shouldn't emphasize how Bitcoin can help those in Argentina with their 30% inflation?
*crickets*

Their was some arguments recently that Bitcoin could be used in China because of their capital control.
Again, did someone raised up and said that it was bad for the image of Bitcoin?

No, of course not. You don't want to openly say that Bitcoin can be used to circumvent bad laws only when it's in your country.

Of course, I would not defend these gentlemen if they weren't great speakers, but they are!
1679  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin documentary: Argentina on: April 20, 2013, 07:31:56 PM
Anyone knows how much these ATMs cost?
1680  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Roger Ver and Jon Matonis pushed aside now that Bitcoin is becoming mainstream on: April 20, 2013, 03:36:46 AM

Roger Ver has been spreading the ideas of Bitcoin for years with his advertisements on Free Talk Live,
his bold $10 000 bet, his investments in many Bitcoin related projects
(such as blockchain.info and Bitcoinstore.com) and his many public appearances.

Remember this?

Yup, that was also him. (Man, was I excited in 2011 when I saw this!)





Jon Matonis published countless article about Bitcoins (many on Forbes) and has a
professional background in the banking system, making him an excellent liaison
with this otherwise strange world. He also made multiple public appearances.


Both of these individuals are amazingly well spoken and have brilliantly spread
the Bitcoin word for years. And yet, now that Bitcoin is getting more media exposure, they have
been rejected from bitcoin.org as potential interviewees. Apparently, their views are too
"extreme" to be shown on TV, or they have done some things in the past that could be
used against Bitcoin image, even if completely unrelated. (Yeah right, Silkroad and the anonymity aren't enough...)

I think this is a load of crap.
You have potentially the most important invention in the history of mankind, but you try to gift-wrap
it in a nice little politically-correct package. What are you afraid of? If Bitcoin is an efficient system,
it will be adopted regardless of the opinions of some of the speakers.

As this move seemed to have gone mostly unnoticed, I wanted to bring some light to it.

So, any of you appreciates what those two individuals have done for Bitcoin?
Do you think they should be pushed aside to protect Bitcoin's image?
If, like me, you think they are great representatives for Bitcoin, please speak!
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