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1661  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [Poll] Which of these Categories of Bitcoiners are Most Bullish? on: June 28, 2023, 06:19:32 PM
Haha, I was just confused about which option should I choose, OP's question is wrong you should ask who is not Bullish for Bitcoin because most of us are just waiting for it. I have chosen to vote for the noobs because I am a noob as well so as we are impatient and inexperienced (well this is not the case really) so we just want to see the boom of the market. Miners seem pretty active these days I was reading a few articles about the $50M mining facility started by some institute and also a mining era is going to be started because investors want to mine as much as they can before halving.
1662  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Pakistan on: June 28, 2023, 12:54:26 PM
Done ✅

Spam.. Wow seems like mere bhai ko shook ha account Temporary ban ka ya phir kisi tag ka. kHair kia kar sakte hain hum except for warning.

Blessing Chand Raat Mubarak

https://images.app.goo.gl/Xy4QvvH9rsQR7paz6

KHAIR Mubarak wessy mujhe nai pata that ka is eid ki bi chad raat hoti like seriously because iska to human pata hi hota ha ka Hajj and Eid kab haa so Chad raat itni exciting nai hoti jitni ka Ramzan ma hoti ha chahe phir wo Ramzan ki ho Ya Shawal ki maza ata haa. Baqi meri taraf se bi Sabko Chand raat Mubarak even i woul say Advance Eid Mubarak to my whole community
1663  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 27, 2023, 07:00:17 PM
$27 trillion is coming...

Haha, buddy what are you saying, do you really know?
$27T are they going to sell all their assets to just buy Bitcoins, Yeah this is my dream as well to watch Bitcoin the most capital-holding asset ever in my life but 27T is not at all possible in the coming 2 halvings at least.

Just Imagine 1% Only which can be a reality if if SEC doesn't fuck up the ongoing ETF approvals, I will be $270B currently exchanged or you can say the Liquid supply available in the market for these Giants is just 11% to 12%. According to the current market price it is worth only around $300B.

Now enjoy the moment of joy, if they bring this capital directly in the Bitcoin boom you'll see a new ATH just lead by this investment of 1%, hope so you've got it.
1664  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Beginners Should Follow These To Be A Good Price Predictor on: June 27, 2023, 06:49:52 PM
The Op's Compilation is good I do respect it, Information will be also helpful but as the dear above said this is one of those topics which is discussed many times many many times, even though I had done a basic trading series which is incomplete because people don't like reading much stuff, Videography and Charts & Images are more effective for this purpose. I will suggest starting critical topics, on the basis of queries, day-to-day asked questions, and current market developments, It will bring more responses.

The rest of the things are good as your compilation, I think it's enough to read properly still you can improve it by making it visually more pleasant using Bolding, Colors and different sizes, etc.
1665  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Pakistan on: June 27, 2023, 06:35:26 PM
Haha heedful:
AJkal Content bohat haa local ma bass zara khayal se choose karain post karne ka liye.

kuch tho sharam hothe hai kuch tho haya hothe hai.

ais ka tu shaid app ko soohna chayee but kia hy k ulta choor katwal ko dantay. Ajj pata chala mujhee ais mahwaray ka  Cool

Apko jakal zayada late smjh nai anne lagi dear, haha sir junior ko chood dain abb mana ka galtii ho gai oss se joo apke sath panga le liye yehi reason ha ka hum too avoid akrte hain haha, apka khoof bohat haa.

My answer is yes for your each question. Well i think language doesn't matter because language is the way of communication so that we can understand each other. The main purpose you get my point like what i wanted to explain moreover i also can speak urdu, punjabi just lemme know in which language would you like to talk with me (hehe...!)

Mr , Yeh local board hy. Agar app ko English mein baad kerni hy tu app ksi aur reelvant section ja k baat ker loo. Forum kay rukes ka mutabiq app ais local board p English mein full post ni ker saktay.

Haha Bro go easy on the New member banda bhaag na jaye.. As i mentioned above Khoooff..  Grin Grin

baqi agr app ko urdu ati ha tu pir urdu ma post keia karo yaqeen karo urdu ma post karne ka bilkul be matlab ye nahe ha ke koi aap ke post ko valuable nahe samje ga yahn per urdu ko khaas numaya hesseyat hasil ha aur aap ki post ko fully consider keya jaye ga Grin Grin 

Yebi aik view ha main ne too khair esa kabi soocha nai, Baqi har kisi ki qismat app jesi thodo jo oski post consider hoo, humain dekh loo koi bhaooo hi nai deta humain too kia karain attention olene ka lia
1666  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Pakistan on: June 27, 2023, 06:21:12 PM
My answer is yes for your each question. Well i think language doesn't matter because language is the way of communication so that we can understand each other.  

Hmm, Language is a medium yes exactly this is what, my brother is trying to say but by yourself, you are not getting the point,

in local there are all well-educated still it's the local board and there is a possibility as your post is public means you haven't quoted a particular person so maybe many of them can't get what you have delivered. Main khud mix urdu english use karta as right now I am using. So try to write in Urdu.

If language really doesn't matter dear so I think we should never post local thread. We have a translation facility as well so why not try posting in French haha.

The main purpose you get my point like what i wanted to explain moreover i also can speak urdu, punjabi just lemme know in which language would you like to talk with me (hehe...!)

For the PM I can't suggest anything for the post in the thread I would suggest / prefer Urdu.

Baki agr apko yaha survive karna haa toh apko iss fact ko accept karna hoga ky yaha posting only Urdu Mai ho. Baki agr AP aisa nahi karyngy toh apky post ko ignorance Mily ge aur zero interaction hoge apky post ky Sath.. hope AP maire baat ko samja Gai..

Haha Zain bro apko survival ki badi fikar ho rahi haa haha, Mujhe kuch doubts hain ap pee zara muje PM karain  Grin Grin (Kiding)
1667  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Manipulation on Peek - What You think ? on: June 27, 2023, 03:15:50 PM
It is worthwhile to understand for yourself that any manipulations have a specific goal. Apparently, one of the "whales" needed to earn money. And the result is quite visible.

Buddy, this is not like what are you thinking, everyone needs money but saying that whales need money sounds weird because whales already own tons of money they just diversify their assets and manage their funds to avoid devastation, and a maximum of the time they store money in gold reserves and other assets but on the same time they try to take risks to gain huge returns as they already own a lot of money so by proper risk management and investment strategy they can generate more tons of money.

Market manipulation is not for instant profits it is for cheap accumulation and better risk management, they throw some money into the dump market and then they trap the weak hands to fill up their bags. The ending is the same as you said but in a very sharp way.

Right, then I haven't seen anything happen that when altcoins dump the market, Bitcoin will also dump the value in the market. Nothing like this has actually happened before. For 14 years Bitcoin has always pulled cryptocurrencies higher if Bitcoin rallies and if there is a dump most of the top altcoins in the market will also follow.

It means this showed only that altcoins value in the market depends on Bitcoin plus the development and innovation of altcoins in this community.

Hmm, Bro, I was here with the same perspective but the market is developed to some levels now, Before the last halving there was a circle of Dominance, Bitcoin-Season and Altcoin-Season let me explain it; As about Dominance we all know, In Bitcoin season the scenarios goes in direction whenever Bitcoins pumps in its rally altcoin market faces pressure because people use to sell altcoins to buy bitcoin for profit booking and vice versa whenever Bitcoin on its peak loses Dominance Altcoins pumps.

But as you can see now in this rally the market pumped and the whole market showed up good gains rather than facing the pressure of Bitcoins dominance.

Slowlyy market is developing now the volatility effect is not as similar as it was, still, the point is valid that Market follows the Bitcoin which is a natural thing because Bitcoin is the > 50% Dominator of the market and if it will face any sort of volatility it will put the impact on the others as well.
1668  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Pakistan on: June 26, 2023, 04:14:31 PM
Exactly my bhi confuse hun ky aakhir ho kaya raha hai. Ye to ab roz ki kahani ho gai hai biii. Or same mistakes AI bss tariqy badal rahy hen. Samaj sy ye bahir hai ky ap logon ky apny alfaaz nai hen kaya? Mujy aaj tak AI tool ki zrurat nai parri or naa hi my ny abhi tak use kiya hai. Ye to rahi AI tool ki.
Kuch to esy bhi hen jin ka fraud bhi kamal kaa hota hai. Kher I don't want to talk.


Haha log pehle pilgrims plagiarism kehtle the huhm huhmm ab ajakl chal raha ha AI AI kuch dino tak syed koi new trend hayee, kia karain logogn ka din week ma only 20 posts to 30 posts wo bi normal koi Articles nai hain ye like ranging from 1000 words to 2000 words. Just 200 character + ki post karni ha wo bi nai hotii hayee. Khair aik factor ye bi ha ka osko koi masla nai jiska 1 account ha problem osko ha jiske 2 3 accounts hain hehe you know what i mean.


Aur yahan p shayerr kah raha hy k Allah Hafiz

Haha Shayer kii isi ada pa hum amrr mitte, wessy shair ka Alwidai ka triqaa itna khass ha ka kia kaon dill bagh bagh ho gya.

Wessy ye app kia post, post and topic, topic khel rehe bhai ko lag raha ap posts poori kar rehe apne signature qoutaa kii haha, to kia hum ye smjhain ka app qouta poora kar rehe ya phir ye smjain ka app iss month ki top postion ko hatyana chatee hain jo bi haa apke iraddee humain kuch theek nai lagr rehe.

Also yaar chalo kafi dair baad hi sai kuch discuss to raha ha naa, magar ye achaa nai ha khair keep it up i am reading  Grin Grin Grin
1669  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Pakistan on: June 25, 2023, 08:46:54 PM
Hmm, Asslam o Alikum community.

Too kafi kuch chal raha ha i was not expecting ka ye discussion hogi about AI content. Khair bro petulino I feel very sad agar jo haalt apne ban kiye osko dekha jaye to apke sath hamdardi karte howe bura ho gya. Rest of things about lalach and ye woo I think thoda sa patiently human baat ko discuss karna chaiye reason simple ha ka boss sabne yahan post karni ha kia faida kisi ko tanz kar ka ya phir koi skht aflaz istmal karke baat karne kaa.

Bonus Race well ap dono Fiasal and petulino ka hosla ha ka apne 60 to70 posts kii haye apne bass ki baat nai. Khair mujhe nai pata kitni posts AI ma detect hoi and kia mala howa itna pata ha ka summary kia ha. petulino apki galti apne kisi ka content pa bharosa kar kese lia, Fiasal apne Bonus hasil kia magar buddy be careful koi galti galti se bi na kar dena note my words haha.

Buddy petulino yaar ye community ka baap wali bat particularly mention kar raha boss baap to bana padta ha ghar ko theek akrne ka lia khair baqi dono mere bhai ho tahamal se kam loo. Baqi petulino bro apne chahe galtii se hi AI posr karwa lii and apki intention jo bi thi bad name to aya again poori community ka, main behtar janta hon ka manager kabi bi poori community ko target nai karta wo individually content dekhta phir bii boss thoda bohat narrative to build up hota hi haa. Ye nai keta ka mujh se kabi galii nai hoi.



Baqi kon kisko guide kar raha mere palee nai pada haha  Angry Angry chill maro jo hona tha ho gya move on. Don't be frustrated.
1670  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 1.7 billion people are still Unbanked; chances for bitcoin on: June 25, 2023, 03:56:25 PM
I think this topic is discussed by many other titles and I still have some thoughts about this, because the banking system was never founded to provide open services to all it was introduced to trap the money and control the economy if they really wanted to bank each and every person it was so easy for them but they choose money over the customers. Bitcoin and DeFi especially revolutionized the services in the financial system, it was so hard to even open a bank account before, and for the leading and borrowing haha forget about it, without any reference, we may never get access to these services.

But now things are different in this market each dn every user has access to every sort of financial service without credit history and useless restrictions. Even with a small amount I can lend money, I can access each and every sort of service whenever I am in need. This is why we call Bitcoin and DeFi the future of finance.
1671  Economy / Economics / Re: Financial education or 1million dollars on: June 25, 2023, 03:48:49 PM
Haha, Very interesting topic, I was just reading the random replies on the thread and I am amazed at the point of view of different users on financial education and Million Dollar. When I read the title first I thought that this topic is inspired by the Mr beast shorts channel videos haha because I have watched one of his videos in which the query was the same but it was presented from a different angle where the mode was related to 1million subscribers or Dollar and here is about educational and 1 Million dollars.

No doubt 1 Million is a life-changing amount and I have heard from many people that money attracts more money, well personally I don't believe in this school of thought my belief is education is the key to opening the financial limitations. With proper financial planning and education, a person can improve his ability to make even millions and millions of dollars each year.
1672  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Luck is what you need in gambling but you have to get to work with trading on: June 25, 2023, 11:19:34 AM
One critical thing that differentiates Trading from gambling is that in trading, you are in control and not about influencing the market, but in management of your trading decisions, basically about when to enter and exit the market, when to seize a profit, and when to close a losing trade. You would have more chances of profiting in trading than you would have in gambling if you put more effort into learning about trading, whereas in gambling, even when you are good, you can't change things, for example, in football matches, the players do not even know what will be the outcome of their game.

Sports were introduced to enjoy after working day and night for a long period of time some moments of joy were with football, cricket, and other sports but these days people ruined the fun of the sports. Now whenever a gambler watches the match rather than enjoying the moments he always prays that the match should go in the favor of the gambling position. Gambling is a moral disease, trading is not addictive but gambling is because people find easy money making here in trading, the case is completely opposite here people need to put in the effort, same as we do put the effort in providing sort of services.

It really depends on the individual choice of what a person wants and how strongly he has control of his emotions and moral values. Gambling sometimes costs you your life I have personally seen many incidents.
1673  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: "How best do I secure my investment on bitcoin as a newbie" on: June 25, 2023, 07:05:00 AM
Hi guys,
I'm super excited to finally be a part of this family of great minds in the crypto world.
As a newbie in the crypto community  I've heard people talk about how great they have lost their resources on several crypto platform, so I've resolved to ask:
How best do I secure my investment on bitcoin as a newbie?
indeed so many people jump into the crypto with little or zero knowledge of bitcoin and it's security and intending risk, so pls i will really appreciate a response from professionals in the house

Buddy first of all welcome to the platform, your query is one of the sot important ones from the basics. To secure your funds in this market all you need is to follow the slogan of Bitcoin "Not your key, not your coins". So always hold your fund in your personal wallet, and make sure of the security of the personal wallet as (Passphrase, Password & Private key).

That is all as I always use to say safety is as simple as ABC Always Be Ccareful. That's it buddy, with good wishes that you might get success on this path.
1674  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Don't Force Your Children to Learn Bitcoin on: June 25, 2023, 06:45:06 AM
Teaching children on bitcoin is like the latest threads in the forum. It is good to tell our children about bitcoin in their tender ages but destiny is not something you force someone to achieve. Just like the general saying that "You can take a horse to the river but you cannot force it to drink the water". That's, it is good to tell your children about bitcoin but you cannot force him or her to learn bitcoin if it is not in the mind of the child and if that is not the child's calling in life.

That Ok and we all I think understand this by nature.

but

The point is such types of incidents never happen usually, yeah I know some sorts of conflicts mostly happen between the families for choosing the profession but learning never gets affected, I am talking about self-learning because as OP said we can't force anyone to learn we can force to choose the subject but next to it we can't force anyone. Bitcoin is a self-learning subject as well.
1675  Economy / Economics / Re: What roles does the poor play in the Economy? on: June 24, 2023, 08:36:02 PM
Poor is the service provider in my view poor plays an important role even more important role than the Rich class or you can say simply the elite class. What I meant here can be explained simply by the example, consider the poor as Plats who provide us with food similarly poor are the producers, constructors or you can say developers of the services we consume daily.

It's a balanced system by nature because the poor are eating because of the rich ones and the rich ones are rich just because of the poor, what if poor people stop providing their services there will be no rich no poor everyone will make their own efforts to survive.
1676  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do I trade bitcoin? on: June 24, 2023, 08:27:30 PM
I think you should also try spot trading. like what's on binance, it's fairer and easier to understand. I guess what is similar to trading forex in bitcoin they call it futures trading. actually it's not complicated to trade but you have to try it yourself from the easiest, even if you've traded forex, it doesn't mean trading bitcoin is the same, because there are several types of crypto trading. one of them is spot trading.

Hmm, you are recommending him Binance which is obvious because it's the leading platform but I think OP should try Decentralized trade, I don't think OP will find any difficulty while using the DEXS because it's pretty much the same as the centralized exchanges with minor differences. Spot trading recommendation is good but as far as I am looking OP is new to the market he should try DCA.

I am not saying it will guarantee profit always but from the long-term perspective, DCA is the best strategy that even a newbie can start doing. The rest is up to Op because it's his money and he can do whatever he wants to. Rather than trading Op should focus on Buy and Hold to train himself initially it can give more effective results.
1677  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Resistance In Crypto Market & Its Types - (Newbie Guide Series) on: June 24, 2023, 06:05:57 PM
There are so many of them and some people also have taken their time in developing their own way of making this resistance through the speculations made on the chart flow on market price, we we are trading, we can come about new and different discovery on our own which could serve more better than the conventional trading patterns people often times use to deduct some analysis and make conclusions.

Hmm about the discovery for which you talking, in my view it is called strategy and management. No one can better manage your funds for you but you can be the best because you already know about your trading sentiments, you know how much time you spend reading the market, and you know your limits. But the management and Strategy which we create while trading are the product of conventional trading patterns and learnings.

Resistances are not resistances forever. They will turn to supports when market breaks out and even can become new strong supports.

Hmm while the market is testing the breakthrough to gain value from a point its resistance and while the market is trying to hold the value it's called support. (For those who are reading the whole thread because it can give you the idea about which thing senior is talking about, in a more clear manner).
1678  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Lost coins redistribution on: June 24, 2023, 05:56:43 PM
I like the idea of only having 21 million bitcoins.
Bitcoins get lost all the time, lost private keys.
In time we will have fewer and fewer bitcoins, currently it is thought 3-4 million bitcoins are already lost. This makes me sad.

Hmm, You are really kind haha bro demand and supply if the demand is more and supply is short falling it will directly increase its valuation. I could be feeling bad for the BTC (Lost Bitcoins) if we were able to transfer only 1 BTC at a time. We all know the the strong Granularity of Bitcoin so nothing to worry.

I propose a redistribution method:
>If an address did not have any activity in let's say the last 100 years the address is considered lost and the bitcoins are free to be mined in the next block.

To prevent losing your bitcoins you make sure to transfer them to a new address every 100 years (I am not aware of any other method of "proving" you still have access to an address).

Hmm, Decent ideology but who is gonna live 100 years are you are gonna live that much time in this minor world.

P.S. This would be a change in the consensus mechanism, I know  Embarrassed
P.S.S. I am aware of Satoshi's view on this "lost coins are a donation to everyone". Yes, but 4 million is a lot, do we want Bitcoin to still be used 1000 years from now? If this trend continues most if not all bitcoins would have been lost by then.

Paper currency was the past digital is present and Bitcoin is the future but a time will come when Bitcoin is gonna be Present and Future will be X.
1679  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Pakistan on: June 23, 2023, 08:39:29 PM
Pic kooo dayk kar tu ap ko naaza huwa hoga ke signn kia show karta ha. Market ki update dayta chalo tu btc abi $30k se upar trade kar rahe hain. Ye week buhat he acha sabit huwa btc ke leye, 20th ko es ne ek surprize deya aur $28k ko cross keya aur os ke bad 29 aur pir 30 se above ho geya ha.


G Maza to aya but please avoid posting full-size pics, you can customize the size really bro yu can do it by just writing a few words and numbers.

Rahi baat Pic ki to awesome and market to MashAalh bohat acha run dekh rahi haa. Agar hold akrti ha spot ko to 50K by then of next month is quite easy because too many Giants are jumping in the ETF applications. Maximum chances are ka agr inko green signal milla to market ma jo hoga wo koi bi surprise nai hoga so keep a close eye on it.

baqi Compromise Me i think i am not spelling wrong app Full member ban gye ho Allah pak apko mazeed taraqi dee. Congregulations.
1680  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you think it's still wrong selling properties for Bitcoin? on: June 23, 2023, 08:32:02 PM
Sometimes I doubt, confidence is a good thing but people don't understand this is overconfidence. Everyone knows Bitcoin's properties and fundamental superiorities and its future potential. We need to understand that crypto is a volatile and risky market even though Bitcoin is not as mature as real estate. Why do you think selling your properties which are the securities for your future to Buy Bitcoins to earn more isn't greed?

Let's suppose for a time that a person sold all his properties and accumulated Bitcoins from the market at a price X and now he is expecting to gain more from his investment but in some sort of urgency he is stuck and now he has no option rather than selling his precious Holdings but the market value of his accumulation is now Y and X > Y now he is in a total loss of Z is it was a good decision now tell me. Always bring that money in the market which you can afford to lose (Extra Money).
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