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1661  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What I've learned so far as a gambler on: November 20, 2023, 03:10:13 PM
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No one actually visits the casino to have fun, you gotta trick the mind, I like to think of it has a fun night out and I am going to spend a few hundred dollars and have a good time and if I win it's a bonus, like I've said, you gotta trick the mind.
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There is no need to deceive your own mind, in fact you are playing for fun. The question is, how does it work, is it effective, after all we will always involve emotions in every game session, whether it's when we win or vice versa. Let me take an example, there was a couple who was having a wedding, they went on holiday abroad and then accidentally visited a land-based casino. they play it for pure fun, then end up losing. After that, they will go looking for other entertainment as part of the tour they are doing. well, clearly they weren't tricking their minds to have fun.

Inversely proportional to what we do and so are you. we are fully aware that we are betting for and hoping to get something, apart from pleasant things. After all, each person's definition of fun is different. for example me, I like to bet because it's fun. it would be natural, if I expected a reward for what I bet. but if the opposite happens and in other words I lose, that means it's no longer fun. In this phase, we will involve understanding, experience and self-control. if I wasn't tempted, then I would stop. Apart from that, whatever game you play, you can have fun with it. Remember, fun starts with taste. But if it's no longer fun, it's best to stop. for me it's that simple.
1662  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is this a good advice? on: November 20, 2023, 02:45:30 PM
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To me, gambling is a theater, a form of entertainment that I pay for, not a way to get rich quick, for them it's a must to win by force, one question seem to change his mood though.

I asked him why he isn't rich yet if he is actively gambling everytime since all this while, this changed his mood and I took a turn.


Basically it all comes back to the way a person thinks, in this case our discussion is on gambling. I mean, every person/gambler has their own mindset and that includes you. everyone thinks according to their limits and abilities, some are like what you said in this thread. Likewise with your way of thinking. The point is, we cannot impose our mindset on someone, unless that someone tries to have a discussion and exchange opinions. Even then, it is not certain that someone will fully accept the opinion or idea that you say. So, it's better to just let them have their own way and you have your own way. Unless someone is a relative or close friend, then you can provide a little understanding. with conditions, without imposing your guidelines in gambling.

Well, I completely agree and agree with the points you said. Gambling is a form of entertainment in today's era, and we need media to carry out gaming sessions by preparing money as a tool. thus, we can play the game we want. For the last point, you should be able to answer it yourself. or, assume with the guidelines that you understand regarding gambling. winning and losing is part of gambling, rich or poor in gambling is also the same. if we are not lucky, it means we cannot be rich.
Anyway, the people who get rich from gambling are only a small portion of the gamblers who end up poor.
1663  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: November 20, 2023, 02:20:01 PM
Saudi Arabian clubs have spent a lot of money to bring in several star  players from Europe. And they benefited greatly from it. First of all, the world knows about the Saudi Pro League. Saudi  Arabia has been  promoted. And secondly, the overall performance  of the clubs in Saudi Arabia has also improved tremendously. Saudi Pro  League has now become much more  competitive and exciting. And if this continues, if Saudi  clubs continue to  add more talented players  from Europe to the Saudi League, then I'd say the Saudi Pro League will become more exciting than Ligue 1 in the next few years.

I have said on many occasions that what the Saudi Pro League is doing is part of a project run by the Saudi Kingdom which is based on the PIF company. The funds disbursed to bring in top European players are money that has been allocated from the Kingdom and also PIF as the company that has acquired Al Nassr, Al Hilal, Al Ittihad, Al-Ahli. These four clubs are only owned by one person, namely Prince Mohammed bin Salman. Even so, PIF only acquired 75% of the shares. Maybe the scenario is that these clubs can appear competitive without the intervention of the government or the PIF company. because, those who run the club are the 25% share holders.

Oh yes, Newcastle was one of those acquired by PIF.
Overall, I agree with what you said. However, to reach the level of competing with European teams, for example Lique 1, there will still need to be a process. After all, only 4 teams are really strong in this competition. the rest is an ordinary team even though those who manage it are also part of the Royal family. The point is, what they planned in their project went according to plan. the rest, we'll just see how it develops.
1664  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: November 20, 2023, 01:49:23 PM
Liverpool and Bayer Leverkusen are two teams that should be taken into account in the hunt for the Europa League championship trophy this season. Both clubs have complete squads and attributes to lead the list of favorite teams to win, and have coaches who have clear tactics. If the two teams met earlier, then the match would be one of the most anticipated matches by many people, like an ideal final.
 
Apart from Liverpool and Leverkusen, other teams that will join the Europa League from the Champions League also have the opportunity to become title contenders. Sevilla, Man united and Milan are the teams that I hope will join here, and they will be a threat to the teams that are already in the Europa League at the moment. although actually I understand that the three clubs are experiencing difficulties in their respective groups each.

Theoretically this is true, but technically not necessarily. It would be very natural if in fact these two teams were predicted to be the favorite teams in the European League group phase. after all, as we all know. both in terms of coach, ranking, performance, both meet the requirements to become a candidate. but, as I said in the post above. Last season, this competition was more interesting with several strong teams taking part in this competition. but in the end, Sevilla was the champion.

Well, this season also applies. We cannot be sure before the quarter-final, semi-final and final matches. Moreover, if the Champions League group phase is over and several teams slip up, they will take part in this competition even though they have to go through the playoffs to enter the round of 16. What is certain is that this league still offers long matches. Also, it might provide other surprises that we don't know for sure yet.
However, speaking of Leverkusen and Liverpool, these two teams can be said to be the favorite teams throughout this group stage match. and, if it's like what you say. If the two teams met sooner, it should be a match worth watching and it should be an exclusive match like a final match and we agree on that.
1665  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: November 20, 2023, 01:14:52 PM
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Getting out of the relegation zone is probably achievable for Lyon because they are not actually a bad team and it shouldn't be that difficult for them. This season there are several things that are making it difficult for Lyon to play better in collecting points and the coach must immediately carry out an evaluation in the next match. Buying several players in the next transfer market might be a solution because they are quite weak in terms of defense and so far defenders are still a big problem for them.

Lyon has not been a weak team in the past few seasons and usually they can finish the season in a mid-table position. This season has only been running for a few matches and although there are differences compared to the previous season. I believe Lyon will be able to escape relegation in the second half of the season and that is a much more realistic expectation compared to finishing in the top five or seven in the standings like the previous season.

I haven't followed the development of this team for quite a long time. yep, Lyon is now ranked first in the red zone with 7 points from its 11 matches. As for the coach, Fabio Grosso, he has only brought his new squad to win one of six matches with Lyon. two draws, three matches with defeats. which means, the coach's work is still said to be far from good or bringing Lyon to development. If the coach is unable to bring about change, and even has difficulty getting out of the relegation zone, I am quite sure Lyon management will replace him with another coach.
but it wouldn't be fair if we didn't give him more opportunities to prove his capacity. In the last two matches, Grosso did not experience defeat. one draw and a narrow win against Rennes. Even so, Rennes was unlucky because one of their players was given a red card. So, this should be a motivation for the coach and the players to perform even better.

To be honest, I don't have much new information regarding this team. However, it seems that the impact of the decline occurred because several Lyon players left in the last summer transfer window. We'll see, can Lyon bounce back. At least their priority is to increase their ranking to be in a safer zone. After that, Lyon can bring in the players they need next January. The next match will be a tough match when Lyon hosts Lille.
1666  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: November 20, 2023, 12:39:28 PM
Hojlund is a well-intentioned player, but I don't think he is enough as a centre forward to take Manchester United to the next level. His stats in the Champions League may be good, but I think he is very inadequate in terms of his game, which we see in the Premier League. He was not good in the last game either. There are some moments when the team is not doing well, but the striker scores a goal and wins the match or becomes the fuse that ignites the team, although this boy has that energy, he is insufficient because of his technique. Maybe in the future he will improve his game and become better, but for now he is not a key player for ManU in my opinion. By the way, I have to say that Rashford's horrible form is getting annoying.

That's why, Ten Hag prefers him over other players. even though, at that time Juve wanted to release their center forward, Vlahovic. Apart from that, there are several players that Ten Hag is targeting according to the budget they have. In the interview session between Ten Hag and Hojlund, Ten Hag had a personal assessment of this player. Of course he can't be relied on at the moment, after all he's not a pure, ready-to-use sticker like Kane.
Ideally, Ten Hag wants good progress from the players he brought in from Atalanta. Unfortunately, he has not been able to maximize his performance in the Premier League in his nine matches. However, he performed well in the Champions League by scoring five goals in four matches. I mean, there is something wrong with the United squad as a whole. This is not just a problem for Hojlund alone, but for the entire team. that's why he had difficulty scoring his first goal in the Premier League. So, that's why we are waiting after all United players have recovered from their injuries, especially the core players.

For now, we give him the opportunity to learn a lot and achieve a strong bond between the players. because from my point of view, United players don't have a strong bond, especially new players who tend to be ignored. on the other hand, some players are not disciplined and want to appear and show their respective prowess. Ten Hag must fix this problem in the future. also, for Marcus Rashford. We'll see, United still have a lot of games to play. especially, if in the end they resign from the Champions League and don't have tickets to the European League. automatically, their focus is only on this competition.
1667  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: November 20, 2023, 12:01:56 PM
Manchester United is not a very unsuccessful team. On the contrary, they are a team with a strong squad but things are not going the way they want. If there are the right tactics and the right guidance, the players are good enough to easily get out of the group and pass the round. They will have a tough match against Galatasaray and they will need to win this match. Otherwise, their chances of getting out of the group will be left to miracles.
Winning against Galasataray is not only to maintain the chance of qualifying for the round of 16 but also to maintain the chance that if they fail they will still play in other European competitions because they can occupy third place in Group A standings, and compete in the European League playoffs
Interestingly, even though Manchester United is more favored as a champion challenger than Galasataray, in this match Galasataray is more favored than Manchester United even though the odds are not much different.
It seems that apart from the host factor, the betting market sees how Galasataray is able to win at Old Trafford, which is one of the factors that also favor the team from this Turkish league.
Manchester United faces a big challenge in this match because Galasataray, which also has the opportunity to qualify from the group phase, will maximize this match as a match that gives full points.

It would be very natural for me, if this time Galatasaray was slightly superior to Manchester United. After all, the match was played at Rams Park, Galatasaray's headquarters. Apart from that, there are many factors that make United considered to have only a slim chance of winning the match against Galatasaray. Actually, I haven't collected all the information, especially for United. whether the injuries to Hojlund, Eriksen, the status of Rashford, Antony and others. So in this post, I will only opine based on what I know.

The point is, United's conditions and situation are indeed unpleasant and have affected their performance so far. That's why there is little hope that United will progress from the group phase. It's no different if United targets finishing in 3rd place. with the scenario, they have tickets to the playoffs in the European League. The situation is not very conducive for Erik Ten Hag's squad. However, make no mistake if unexpected things can happen. United could perform optimally, even though the players they play are second tier, especially on the front line. and this could be a problem for Galatasaray. because, they have to consider if there are any surprises in the match on matchday five.
Moreover, in terms of betting odds, there is no significant difference, the point is that both teams will play as hard as possible to achieve the full points they hope to get. In the match, we will be presented with something interesting and I hope that these two teams will put on a very exciting match. Regarding the final result, we will find out later.
1668  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: November 20, 2023, 11:19:42 AM
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 Well though Modric has an undying love for the club and would still love to continue playing for Realmadrid but he should understand that he's not as young as he used to be and most coaches in the European league would mostly prefer giving chances for youngsters to thrive, making him to be at the bench in most matches, 38 years is an age that's due to retirement and I doubt if he modric would be able to play full 90mins and compete with younger midfielders in other teams in terms or physical strength and agility.

 The best thing is for him to seize the opportunity of moving to the Saudi league where we'll be earning a more better salary and given enough match time compared to if he remains at Realmadrid and also the money he receives would really serve as a retirement fund when he finally leaves football.

I also read the news about this senior Madrid player, and what he said for his club Real Madrid and as I previously predicted. Therefore, of all the existing Madrid players, I have full respect and appreciation for this player from Croatia. although in truth, I am not a Real Madrid supporter.
We don't need to talk about his ethos, he has proven it both for his club and his national team. Modric, is another person with the most totality and loyalty to the club where he plays. I think Modric really understands the club's current situation, after all he is 38 years old.

Nevertheless, as he said in several newspapers and to which I refer. "Real Madrid is everything to him" it's part of my life, my family, it's my way of life. That's why I like this player apart from his skill in handling the ball, his stability and his experience. although now the situation has changed, and young players have changed, even more actively taking over their current position and duties. and I'm sure Modric is very aware of this. but because of his loyalty, he remains loyal to Real Madrid.
There are several rumors circulating that Modric has agreed to leave Real Madrid for the Saudi Pro League. However, this rumor was denied by Real Madrid general director Jose Angel. In short, we have no intention of selling it. which means, Modric will be with Madrid. and ending his status as a free agent player after his contract expires. So far there is no certainty regarding Modric joining the Saudi pro league, everything is still just rumors. and I suspect, Modric will end his career with Real Madrid and become a legend. After all, Modric can still stay with Madrid even though he is no longer playing on the pitch. may happen, even if the task and status change.
1669  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: November 20, 2023, 10:30:02 AM
The storm of injuries has not stopped hitting the Barcelona players this season, this is really a very difficult season for this team to go through, especially since they don't have many players to cover the gaps in the team.
First of all, of course this will be a big blow for a potential young player like Gavi, in fact he is reported to have had to end this season early because of the injury he suffered. This is quite bad for his future because there is a possibility that his performance will decline after he recovers.
And this is a loss for the Barcelona team, especially Xavi, who has to work harder to think about the team's game so that they can still perform well with the minimum number of players, this is really a pretty bad and tough season for them.

Often times, international events are always something scary for a club and its coach. this week, we have heard that many players have been injured in their respective national teams. In this case, this is the part that any club coach doesn't like. especially, if the player is one of the core members of the club he plays for.
Yep, like Gavi, which is not only regretted by the Spanish national team which was architected by La Furia Roja Luis de la Fuente. however, for the Barcelona squad itself, it will especially damage the scenario that has been designed by Xavi Hernandez.

As Romano reported, Barcelona were furious because they didn't understand why Gavi had to play that game. Initial tests have been completed, and show a "severe knee injury." Further tests will be carried out in the next 24 hours to clarify his condition. So, there are no official results yet that can be claimed as true. I just hope that Gavi only needs a few weeks of recovery.

Referring to Barcelona, ​​it is clear that it will be a loss for them due to the incident that occurred with Gavi. He is one of the players who is Xavi's mainstay in his squad. But on the other hand, it has been reported that De Jong's condition will return on December 14. Likewise with Pedri, who was previously reported to be training with the main squad. at the very least, some were injured and some recovered instead. ideally, Xavi should reformulate his strategy.
1670  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: November 20, 2023, 09:55:22 AM
Anyone who has been following the performance of the Bayern Munich team since the start of the season can attest to the fact the team is currently on fire and can't be stopped by a club like Koln. Bayern has been tearing teams apart and against Koln, I don't expect any result apart from a win for the reigning German Bundesliga champions. Koln for sure isn't gonna play the game without hope of getting something out of the game but I think the don't have all it takes to get a good result against Bayern Munich.

In terms of scoring goals, yep Bayern have proven it since Kane arrived with Thomas Tuchel's squad. in 11 matches, Bayern has scored 42 goals in the Bundesliga. in addition, 11 goals in the Champions League. It seems clear, right, Bayern is really productive in terms of scoring goals. 17 of the 42 goals were scored by Harry Kane, and he was extraordinary with his Bayern. It would be very natural if we said that Bayern was in a position on fire. However, from another perspective, there are still weaknesses in Thomas Tuchel's squad based on my personal point of view.

In the Bundesliga, okay, they performed optimally. but in the Champions League, their defense was a little slack, especially the goalkeeper. fortunately, now Neuer has returned, although it has not been proven that he has returned to his previous performance. but at least, he is better than Sven Ulreich. The point is, Tuchel still has homework to cover the weaknesses of his squad.

In the next five days, Bayern will visit Cologne headquarters. W0e can guess, on paper Bayern will win this match smoothly. Naturally, these two teams have a very significant gap. both in terms of player depth, ranking and performance. Bayern is in 2nd place in the Bundesliga standings.Meanwhile, Koln is in second place in the relegation zone. We can also compare based on odds, the difference is clear. But, we'll see how these two teams fight in the upcoming match. because what is certain is that Koln will not just give up and be defeated by Bayern Munich.
1671  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you in profit? on: November 19, 2023, 10:12:43 PM
I have noticed some individuals claiming to be successful in gambling.
but, my personal experience with online gambling platform over the past 8 months has been consistently unprofitable
I haven't broken even or made any gains. I'm curious if anyone in our community has actually achieved profitability through gambling. If yes, we can calculate that how much percentage of us are profitable.
I know most of the people pay to win and deposit to recover previous losses.


Are you in profit?

In this context what we are discussing is gambling. First, it is important to clarify what gambling you mean. I mean specifically, because there are many types of gambling bets. The point is that we can't possibly play all gambling games, in fact there will always be types of gambling games that we don't like or don't even understand. second, what type of gambling do you mean. because it is unlikely that someone will understand, even master all types of gambling, especially those related to several factors involving insight, knowledge, science, and the like which many people call expertise or skills.

Now we discuss profits, as is the theme of the title of this thread. Of course yes, and that applies to all gamblers. However, the problem depends on each gambler himself. Let me take an example, if you count from the first time you gambled until now. and you have experienced many defeats, losses and so on. Then, suddenly you are lucky to get half of the money you have lost because you lost. Would you still say it's still a loss, or...
and this is where most gamblers have different understandings. If so, it means you are chasing profits in the gambling you do. There's nothing wrong with that, it's just important for you to be aware of the consequences and risks of the consequences it causes. what is certain, you can win and become rich. or vice versa, you lose everything. There are many examples, in fact we often discuss them either from the side that lost a lot of money or from the side that gained wealth from gambling.

Now it's my turn, to be honest I never calculate the percentage of either wins or losses. the point is, I know that gambling contains risks. especially when it comes to pure games of luck. luckily I tend to like sports even though I don't always bet on them, there are times when I need other entertainment, namely slot games. But in sports, I can manage the bets I make.
Don't be greedy, to get 3 winning matches in a single bet, that's quite profitable. after all, we benefit from the many matches presented every week, take your time if you want to get the results you want and choose 1/2 of the many matches presented. provided that it has gone through a research and analysis process.

Well, now, the point is up to you, what you will do with your gambling.
1672  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: A tip for staying resposible while gambling. on: November 19, 2023, 09:01:24 PM
A gambler's worst moment in gambling is when he wins several gambles, accumulates some money, loses the next gamble and loses all the money. Every gambler should be wary of this. There is no point in us having to continue gambling, sometimes we should take a break. Decision making is easier if we take a break between gambling. Earning money is very difficult, there is no distinction between rich and poor in terms of earning money because both have earned money in different ways and both have worked hard in both ways to earn money. Now if we say that the poor should gamble more cautiously than the rich then it would be wrong, we should say that both gamblers should gamble cautiously. If there is doubt about a gamble then there is simply no need to play that gamble. We will play the gambling that will give us the most guarantee of winning and refrain from the rest.

Well, isn't that part of what is normal for gamblers? In fact, the points you make are very likely for gamblers to experience the experiences you say. When we gamble, we collect blow after blow and it is enough to produce a decent reward. In fact, if we are lucky we can get a multiplication that is many times over. then, because we are too busy playing or don't have the boundaries to stop the gambling session. In the end, the winnings we have collected are lost in the next bet.

Well, to me that's very natural, the point is we have a choice. stop, or continue. the bad risk is that all the money we collect will be lost. or, get a multiplication many times over when luck is on our side. This is gambling, which always contains risks. in the discussion of your post, several people said this was a greed factor. Others say, this is gambling and if you don't want the risk, it's better not to bet. After all, if we win with a big reward, we ourselves will be happy and enjoy it. but I also have to agree with what you said. The only difference is, I prefer to say that there are times when we stop the game session either when we are losing or when we are winning. Just gamble naturally, with the free time we have. the rest, we can continue whenever we want. Most importantly, it doesn't interfere with our routine, let alone work.
1673  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The most important thing in a betting site on: November 19, 2023, 08:35:32 PM
Hey,

I wonder what other gamblers consider to be the most important aspect of a betting site.

In my case, it's the speed of approving and processing withdrawals. Knowing that all withdrawals go smoothly, without delays or issues, makes me trust the betting site... even if it may not have the best games, the biggest odds, or the most attractive interface. In the end, it's all about the money. Smiley

In general, if a betting site makes excuses to delay withdrawals, imposes limits on the amount you can withdraw per day/week/month, or requests an excessive number of documents for a $50 withdrawal, then these are major red flags, at least for me.


So, what's the number one thing on your list?

In essence, all gamblers want to play comfortably, with easy withdrawals, without any difficult processes. even if you can choose, there is no KYC, attractive bonuses, friendly service, high reputation and trustworthy credibility. unfortunately, you have to look for it to achieve the criteria you expect. However, don't expect it to be 100% smooth like the ideal casino you describe.
In essence, each casino platform has policies that they have designed in such a way that the casino still stands strong in their business. every regulation and policy they issue has gone through a long process, especially for casinos that are trusted, have a reputation and respect their users.

For me personally, it's simple, if the casino I choose is a trusted casino, that's more than enough. As for problems occurring, such as late withdrawals, this can occur due to many factors. What's important is that the money we withdraw remains safe. Moreover, if when we ask something, for example why there are problems with withdrawals, the casino operator serves us and explains it in a friendly manner. that is enough. So, what other features should we look for that we think are ideal. After all, I'm pretty sure most of the community has the same thoughts.
1674  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Letting the cat out of the bag on: November 19, 2023, 08:15:24 PM
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If you are facing gambling addictions and you are keeping it all to yourself, you are worsening your problem, find someone who is close to you and open up to them, letting it all out will bring you some relieve and hopefully you will get better, don't wait till you hit the rock bottom before you say it all out.


In fact we often discuss it and repeat it many times. but that's okay, there's no harm in it and it's also useful to remind us all. what you say, I completely agree. If someone experiences a disorder such as addiction, whatever the type, opening up and seeking help is the main and most important part, especially for the family. thus, we will try to find a solution to overcome it and even cure it. although some of our families do not hesitate to ostracize the addict. It's natural, because everyone has different thoughts and ways of responding.

However, the points you make are absolutely correct. especially, for addicted people who do not have limits and understanding regarding the level of gambling. although in reality, the healing process will be different for the sufferer and even then it must be accompanied by strong intention and determination. otherwise it will be useless, even though we have told our family about it. In fact, there are many cases related to addiction of any type. but instead of giving help and taking him to a rehabilitation place, even to an expert, the main key lies with us as sufferers. if the intention is not firm, let alone not having determination. then the healing process can take a long time until a person reaches the peak of his consciousness. Well, just make gambling part of your entertainment. It doesn't have to be all the time, we can play it according to the conditions and situations plus sufficient understanding.
1675  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: November 19, 2023, 07:48:44 PM
Sometimes we can see abrupt endings from any good team, but for different reasons. For instance, if Liverpool and Bayer Leverkusen play against each other in the quarterfinals, I fear we have to accept that one of them has to go and it doesn't really have to do with their performance. Maybe that is the preliminary final game of the competition so to speak. And then one team will lose and nobody will remember the reason why. It was because the two best teams met each other in the quarters.

That's why I hope that they can avoid to be against each other for as long as possible. Hopefully not before the semifinals. But with some luck in the drawings, I agree that Bayer Leverkusen will be around in the Europa League for a few more rounds at least.

And it is not certain that Liverpool and Leverkusen will advance all the way to the quarter-finals. as you said, sometimes we can see the sudden end of any good team. like last season, for example, two teams from the Premier League were predicted to be strong candidates. However, along the way, these two teams were defeated by mediocre teams. Sevilla's condition is a mess, not much different from this season. Leverkusen is no less the same, they are just as slumped in the red zone in domestic competition. Suddenly, these two teams changed coaches and started their journey with victory after victory until finally Leverkusen entered the quarter-finals and Sevilla became champions. a surprising result, even though the previously favorite teams were Manchester United, Arsenal and even Juventus even though their performance was a mess.

Unique right? and this is football, we won't know until the match progresses step by step until the final round. So, it is possible that either Liverpool or Leverkusen will slip up in the future match. although for now, their chance of becoming group champions is already theirs. The time comes in round 16, then the real fight will begin. So, let's just wait and enjoy everything that happens.
1676  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: November 19, 2023, 07:29:28 PM
That is PSG biggest challenge at the moment, winning the UCL trophy will make Mbappe stay. Enrique is required to be able to realize the ambitions carried by the team, while Mbappe is still with them at the moment. But for many people, this is very difficult to achieve, considering that many great players have joined the PSG club but they have not been able to win the UCL title. Madrid will not stop before their target is achieved, Perez is a person who has many ways to realize his ambition to recruit Mbappe.

PSG won the UCL, Mbappe moved, Madrid recruited another ideal striker besides Mbappe, everything is still very open to happening in the future. I think even if PSG win the UCL this season, Mbappe will still leave the club, in another context I don't think he should go to Madrid. One more thing, I'm not sure PSG will make a loss regarding Mbappe move, however they will find a solution so that the club makes a profit from the transfer.

Actually, I'm not sure what you're saying, Mbappe doesn't seem to be staying for the UCL title with PSG. In fact, if Mbappe ends his contract, he will get a fantastic loyalty bonus. We have been discussing this since Mbappe's statement that this season will be his last. and apparently, this idea is the most realistic and relevant. If I were Enrique, I would refuse to become PSG coach if the club management was targeting the Champions League trophy.

Just imagine, with PSG's current player base, it would be something difficult for Enrique to make happen. I cannot deny that some of their newcomers are young players with potential. however, they will really need time to reach their playing level. and it has been proven that Goncalo Ramos, Kolo Muani, have not been able to show their consistency with PSG. that's why Enrique trusts Mbappe more. and if PSG are truly targeting the UCL trophy, they will bring in established players and not players who need time to develop. That's why Enrique accepted to become PSG's head coach. because PSG's current philosophy has changed. from the mega project trio MNM, now choosing to start from scratch. Even then, most of the players brought in by PSG did not involve the coach. Supposedly, if they target it, the coach plays a very important role. Well, that's something like that in my personal opinion. There is also the case with Madrid, so far Real Madrid has stated on their official website that what is being rumored is not true. but we'll see, the time will come in the next summer window.
1677  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: November 19, 2023, 07:04:13 PM
I have been following Manchester City's trip very closely, and they are unquestionably the best team in the English League. They comfortably occupy the #1 spot due to their unmatched consistency. But things are very different when it comes to the Champions League. They are finding that the Champions League is a true test for them because of the fierce competition it brings, especially from teams like Real Madrid and Bayern Munich.

They have to step it up, in my opinion, if they hope to duplicate their success back home in Europe. It's not just about skill; it's also about adjusting to other playing philosophies and the pressure of European evenings. Although they are among the best candidates, anything can happen in the Champions League. They have to play at their utmost best in every game to avoid losing out on the trophy once more.

Can I say the opposite, if the Domestic League competition is the toughest compared to the Champions League competition which we consider the most prestigious. Just imagine, every team competing in the Domestic League is struggling to remain consistent in its 38 matches. btw, if we refer to the Premier League. Each team, both top and mediocre teams, will play match after match to achieve their respective goals until the competition ends. along the way, going ups and downs often has an impact on most teams. it could be, on all teams. plus, players suffering from injuries and all that.

The difference with this competition is that the best teams are allowed to enter this competition. In fact, each team will only have two meetings until it's time for the final round to get to the trophy. So it is very natural that the Chanpions League is said to be the highest and most prestigious competition. but in my version, the toughest competition is the Domestic League.

Talking about Manchester City, the team we agree is the best team currently in the Premier League. and overall, we agree that the Champions League is the main goal and target for TheCitizen for now. Well, I still doubt that Pep hasn't actually shown the strength of his team's squad. Yep, armed with my research and analysis, he tends to prefer experimenting. not because the players are not ideal, but rather because they are looking for the most effective patterns and at the same time measuring the potential and talent of the players. Anyway, it's very possible that my analysis is very wrong, but this is just my personal opinion. and I remain confident that City's chance of retaining their title this season remains wide open for them.
1678  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: November 19, 2023, 05:39:33 PM
Al-Ittihad announced their new coach after Nuno Espirito Santo to be Marcelo Gallardo (El Muneco) who was engaged for a year and a half with the team.
El Muneco was training River Plate before and hopefully he will be as successful with his new club. Nuno was sacked since Al-Ittihad results weren't good lately and because of disputes between him and his players namely Benzema.
His first match with the team will be away vs Al-Ettifaq which is quite good team. A hard test to start with Wink

Basically I don't know about the dispute between Nuno Santo and Karim Benzema, but if I may have an opinion, the main problem could be triggered by the pattern and system implemented by Nuno. Honestly, I don't have much information. However, if you refer to the pattern implemented by the previous coach, Nuno Santo, he often implemented a pattern that did not suit his players. I mean, especially for Benzema. The French star prefers an offensive pattern, but the coach tends to be the opposite. Anyway, just my personal opinion and speculation.

Referring to the new coach of Al Ittihad, it seems that Marcelo Gallardo is more inclined to implement an offensive system and pattern. Ideally, the pattern and system of the new Al Ittihad coach will suit Karim Benzema's style and wishes. Gallardo is more likely to apply a 4-3-3 pattern, although it doesn't always have to be specific. but ideal, like when Benzema was with Real Madrid and Ancelotti's pattern. The difference is, the players support Benzema in terms of helping him score goals.
Well, Gallardo actually had a good career even in the Latin American League. but we'll see how the new coach makes his first debut with Al Ittihad in the match against Al-Ettifaq.
1679  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: November 19, 2023, 04:41:57 PM
Sancho and Antony are two names that I think Man United should be ready to cut losses on these two deals. Man United spent heavily to get the signatures of these two strikers. However, Antony only contributed 8 goals in his debut season for the club. This season, Antony has yet to score any goals. He also got into trouble off the field with accusations of violence against women. Sancho had a conflict with Erik ten Hag. He's just on the bench, maybe until the end of the season. What a waste of the money they spent. Very poor performance of the attack is the leading cause of recent failures. That forced Man United to make significant changes in the winter transfer window. They should quickly liquidate Antony and Sancho.

As rumored, Sancho will be released by Manchester United in January and one of the teams interested is Juventus. however, with a loan option and I'm sure United will have no words other than wanting to sell him. at least, that's how the rumors have developed so far and the player has reportedly been removed from Ten Hag's list. It's a shame, both parties should be able to mediate this, especially for Sancho as a professional player. I know very well that Sancho has his own rights in this case, but in reality as a professional player and still on the salary of the club he has to act professionally. and yep, in the end it's like you said. If there is a big possibility, Sancho will be sold in January.

As for Antony, for me personally he is a talented player and can develop. It's just that he followed his ego too much. So far, I haven't followed the progress of this Brazilian player, especially after he stumbled upon a case of violence involving him. So far he has started six of his nine matches with United in the Premier League and his performance has been really fluctuating. I'm considering a little whether United's condition is affecting the existing players. So naturally, his performance is decreasing or not good. but I think Antony is still worth keeping, no matter what he is facing. I don't really follow the rumors regarding Antony, but he is a player who has good talent and can be developed much better. however, it all depends on how United's management will be, and we can only follow developments.
1680  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: November 19, 2023, 03:42:23 PM
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Erick Ten Hag should be able to take advantage of the time that Manchester United has given him at this time before the Manchester United team fires him for quite logical reasons. Because in the transfer window all teams will probably move to get great players to make the team stronger, so Manchester United also needs to provide more funds for this if they still want to hunt for great players for their own team. So Erick Ten Hag must be able to take advantage of the current moment for the good of his career at Manchester United.

The thing is, it's not easy at all. However, Ten Hag has proven it last season. Only this time it's different, the United camp was really having problems both inside and outside. One by one, problems came to them, starting with the acquisition of a club which had an impact on the club's management, limited spending budget, several players who were having problems with each other personally, both Antony with his case, Sancho with his coach, several players who started to be undisciplined and also selfish. Plus, many players were injured. In the end, Ten Hag had difficulty restoring the performance of his team's squad.

Naturally, any coach with conditions like this would have quite a hard time getting his team back. at the very least, he takes time and solves his problems one by one. So, it's not that Ten Hag was unable to take advantage of time and momentum. As a coach, especially as Ten Hag is known for his hard work and discipline, he will always try to optimize his team's squad. Unfortunately, it's not easy, especially as new problems always arise. moreover, which related bad rumors about him and several players.

I think if United finally fires the coach, it won't take long for him to find a new club which is also a big team. After all, its performance has been proven. although in some cases, Ten Hag made blunders. and for me it's natural, because no matter what, mistakes will always be there.
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