I stand by a standard that I leave none of my projects behind. Therefore, I decided to end development of DCRE and BXT, and in turn, allow a swap.
I understand many of your worries about speculative unfairness involved with IAO buyers paying BTC for OMC, while swappers turn in an obsolete currency for OMC. I also understand that there are many worried about buyers dumping at bargain prices once OMC hits exchanges. I would like to note that I own more than 50% of the BXT in the swap address, and around 80% of the DCRE in the swap address. I soaked up a lot of the dumps on exchanges to keep the swap rate fairly reasonable. Hopefully this will ease some of your worries. The OMC I own from the swap will be my personal stake and incentive for working on this asset. You need not worry about them hitting the market. I will not be taking dividends on my stake in OMC.
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He probably invested nothing. All he invested was his bxt which he mined at 0.001 cost as an idiot. I'm sorry but it's the truth. And now he is being awarded for it.
Thats nonsense. That was not possible, better inform yourself about the prices and mining costs! BXT Net Hash was around 10+ PH at the top/ Hit 1% of Bitcoin nethashrate ! I invested enough and bought enough on exchanges and I am an investor, thats all info you need. You could have the same advantages and could bought or even mined BXT at the right time.   I'm arguing with a guy on slack now. I'm clearly asking simple questions: 1) Why it was not clear in any part of the ANN or the website that the total coins reserved for the swap would be divided by the total coins sent for the swap? 2) This is so unlogical and unfair. If I knew this from the beginning I wouldn't invest a single penny. For obvious reasons. The idea of this coin is to create a fund for profit. Shareholders will recieve profit with their shares. They buy them with contributing to the IAO, by sending btc. Now that 700,000 OMC will only contribute to the fund for 1 btc and rest of the 400,000 omc will contribute 44.5 btc. But the one who contributed will take %66 of profits while the real fund raiser will only take %33 of all profits. ISN'T THIS FREAKING STUPID?! Now on slack a guy sends me an SS of a slack message from BXT slack dated 1st of September. Gladimor supposed to wrote the dividing formula there, but NO WHERE IN THE ANN WHICH WE INVESTORS SHOULD ACCESS THE ALL INFORMATION WE NEED BEFORE INVESTING! I'm expecting people who sent real BTC IAO to response. Especially that guy who sent 30 btc right now. It's obvious we got misinformed. Or else I'm gonna start to think that was Gladimor himself that sent 30 btc as he is not responding these concerns! |
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He probably invested nothing. All he invested was his bxt which he mined at 0.001 cost as an idiot. I'm sorry but it's the truth. And now he is being awarded for it.
Can you please tell me where in the hell it writes that the total %6 reserved omc will be divided with the total amount of bxt sent? For all we know a swap is a 1:1 if it is not mentioned otherwise. I thought it would be a 1:1 swap like all other coins out there and that the remaning % would be burned. I'm trying to make a peace with you guys, suggesting that we should take a base price for both coins and divide them with 0.00009. Even that is in your advantage as they are dead coins and they will not contribute to the freaking OMICRON FUNDS THAT ARE MEANT TO BE PROFITED WITH. BUT YOU WILL GET SHARES REGARDLESS.
Gladimor please address this issue. Its hilarious that the raised 44.5 BTC gets half the coins of SHITTY DEAD COINS THAT WOULDN'T EVEN MAKE 1 BTC!
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Well thanks for the rides Bob. Once again I made good cash on of your scam coins. How is Joe Mozelesky doing these days? Ask him to put in some real coding for polo to review if you want to pump this shitty harder. As bittrex is full of small guys. Let me know if you do please, I'll buy more. |
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The amount of BXT swapped was about 38,000
Where do you guys find that information? Do you know what was the number for DCR? I took a risk and bought BXT for the swap and got a cheaper price, but so could anyone. You could have bought BXT at 30000 satoshi and got an even better price for OMC than I did.
To be honest, I think this would have never happened if Gladimor clearly announced the terms of the swap, instead of doing it via PM  Not sure why anyone should have been dumping BXT so cheap, when it was an easy way to swap them and get good price. Those dumpers are the ones who actually lost there, and some people benefited from that by getting cheaper OMC. Gladimore did announce the terms of the swap - it was here in the OP of this post and it was on the website. There were not many BXT available cheap at 36000 satoshi - I tried to buy them to reduce my risk from mining at 100,000 satoshi, but not many people were selling that cheap because it was expensive to mine. It was always a risk to buy or hold BXT for the swap - it could have worked out badly for me. Sure, I understand. What about my question above: how did you know there was exactly 38000 BXT swapped? Do you know how many DCR were swapped? I didn't see those numbers announced yet... Did I miss something? The BXT swap address was public https://chainz.cryptoid.info/bxt/address.dws?2344.htm. There were around 50000 BXT at the time of the swap but only about 38000 was sent for the swap. To those who complain about people who swapped BXT and got a better price than you, should the people buying in now complain that you got a better price than they did? Anyone could have taken the risk to buy BXT/DCR and swap them, all that information was public. The information about the total coins reserved / total coins sent was not public at all. I thought from the beginning that it was indeed a 1:1 swap and I looked at both of the coins prices and I thought to myself that you had to be an idiot to buy BXT to swap. On the other hand delta credits had 15k satoshi price so I thought it was okey, but still investing early was even better. I don't really understand how you dare to discuss this thing. So we have only 43 btc for the funds. 38k btx and 10k deltacredits will make tops 1-2 btc, but they will have more coins than the BTC invested. ALL THE TRADES WILL BE DONE WITH THE BTC WE INVESTED, but those who swapped and got cheap OMC will get dividends. What the heck?! |
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The info is on the Website since the IAO was announced:  http://delta.investments/Yes maybe you should better bought delta and bxt and took the trade-in risk. As i swaped in, I never knew how much would swaped /traded in for OMC and so on So, is there any indication that the reserved amount will be divided to the total coins sent for swap? No there isn't. The guy above who made the match shows how unfair is the distrubution with swaps. Those who wanted it to swap with bxt will get 15.7894736842105263 omc per bxt and at the end of the day, that 38,000 bxt can't be turned into btc because there are no buy order whatsoever. |
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But no one forced you to either mine or buy bxt overpriced. I'm gonna be honest, anyone that pays 100k satoshi per coin when it's a simple, normal long PoW coin are meant to lose. This was your fault. Do you realize since you put 100k satoshi in bxt, it had a potential of 12.850.000$ marketcap. That would place it above counterparty, which would be 20th coin with largest marketcap. We as who sent real btc don't have to pay for your trading faults. You took a risk and it shouldn't have paid out like this. Now while I am getting 9000 satoshi per omc you are getting 2000 satoshi per omc. You will dump as soon as it hits the market and our price will crush. Why don't you agree a fair solution rather than being greedy? Simple, lets take the exchange price of the swapped coin to calculate swap amount. If bxt was 100k satoshi than lets do a 10:1 swap. But when we are dividing the whole amount, its just wrong. And I'm sorry I just don't believe you invested btc, if so please come to slack and prove it...  Its up to Gladimor- the dev- and not to us to decide. I am sure he had a plan before the Trade-In of OMC. And Early investors who takes the most risk are getting the best bonuses/discount-thats fair. Thats how crypto works. Get informed about the scene and invest first in early stages. I will not dump it - I am in for long-term. I will give you my OMC Address as proof of it. ~CryptCo I invested first day with btc. Do not dare to pull this early investor thing to me. I also invested almost the first day of Delta Credits. Gladimor knows this. If it was clear that the total amount reserved for swap would be divided in the swap coins sent, I would rather bought delta and bxt and would have so little cost for my OMC. It's simple enough. This was not in the OP and those who are invested stupidly to dead coins shouldn't be rewarded over us who invested with real btc, the very purpose of this funds. Let's be real here, deltacredits and bxt both have 0 buy support. And they are at very low prices. How will Gladimor be able to cash out in btc to use them in trading, etc for profit? He still has to pay dividends to those who swapped though. |
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But no one forced you to either mine or buy bxt overpriced. I'm gonna be honest, anyone that pays 100k satoshi per coin when it's a simple, normal long PoW coin are meant to lose. This was your fault. Do you realize since you put 100k satoshi in bxt, it had a potential of 12.850.000$ marketcap. That would place it above counterparty, which would be 20th coin with largest marketcap. We as who sent real btc don't have to pay for your trading faults. You took a risk and it shouldn't have paid out like this. Now while I am getting 9000 satoshi per omc you are getting 2000 satoshi per omc. You will dump as soon as it hits the market and our price will crush. Why don't you agree a fair solution rather than being greedy? Simple, lets take the exchange price of the swapped coin to calculate swap amount. If bxt was 100k satoshi than lets do a 10:1 swap. But when we are dividing the whole amount, its just wrong. And I'm sorry I just don't believe you invested btc, if so please come to slack and prove it... |
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Gladimor clarified my question. I felt like I had to share so all investors and potential investors know this issue which I think fairly unfair (I'm a investor myself). The coins that were meant to be swapped with Gladimor's previous projects were 700,000. However the sum of bxt and delta credits are around 180,000 coins. By the time of the swap delta credits were 10,000 satoshi and was around 65k satoshi (fairly overpriced due to the Yobit addition). According to the calculation:
600,000/num_of_bxt_swapped
100,000/num_of_delta_swapped
In other words, those who swapped are getting very very cheap coins than us real investors who sent real btc which is actually the point of all the coin, to create funds for dividend payments.
This was not clear in the ANN and I want to vote for it to change. Let's take the base prices for coins when they were sent to swapped and give the %25 bonus.
So if deltacredits were 9000 satoshi at the time of the swap, it should be a 1:1 swap.
If bxt were 36000 satoshi at the time of the swap, it should be 4:1 swap.
Please investors I am fairly curious about your thoughts on this. I'm sure not many coins sent for swap so people get Omicron for perhaps 100 satoshi, 200 satoshi. It will make our investment dust and they will earn shares they don't deserve with 10,000 omicron in wallets.
Gladimor, you know this is by no means a fud. As an investor, im trying to watch over my investment. Thanks for your time.
Oh and burn rest of the coins reserved for the swap. Please make this happen or Omicron will go to dust as they will dump big time.
There is no need for concern about this. I swapped my BXT and invested real btc in mining and buying BXT before Gladimor decided to discontinue BXT. You cannot say that the price of BXT was 36000 satoshi - that price was after Gladimor announced BXT would be discontinued. Most of my BXT were mined at 100000 satoshi - I averaged down and bought cheap BXT for the swap, so my OMC costs about 6-7k satoshi, which is a discount but not a big discount like you are suggesting. Your proposal of 4 OMC for 1 BXT would rob me blind! You will so much less cost per Omicron than 6-7k satoshi. Assume 20,000 bxt sent for swap. 600,000 / 20,000 = 30. So you get 30 omicron's per bxt. That is unfair. :/ Who cares if you mined bxt at 100k satoshi. Its your fault. Never rent hash for a long mining period. Now we have less btc for the fund but more people to pay dividend. Oh and either way if your cost is 6-7k satoshi than you are at our %33 advantage.  Oh and PLEASE EITHER KICK THIS GUYS FROM SIGNATURE CAMPAIGN OR TELL THEM NOT TO WRITE NONSENSE HERE. BECAUSE OF THIS 2 POSTS IN THE TOPIC A WEEK we are missing a important point. |
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Gladimor clarified my question. I felt like I had to share so all investors and potential investors know this issue which I think fairly unfair (I'm a investor myself). The coins that were meant to be swapped with Gladimor's previous projects were 700,000. However the sum of bxt and delta credits are around 180,000 coins. By the time of the swap delta credits were 10,000 satoshi and was around 65k satoshi (fairly overpriced due to the Yobit addition). According to the calculation:
600,000/num_of_bxt_swapped
100,000/num_of_delta_swapped
In other words, those who swapped are getting very very cheap coins than us real investors who sent real btc which is actually the point of all the coin, to create funds for dividend payments.
This was not clear in the ANN and I want to vote for it to change. Let's take the base prices for coins when they were sent to swapped and give the %25 bonus.
So if deltacredits were 9000 satoshi at the time of the swap, it should be a 1:1 swap.
If bxt were 36000 satoshi at the time of the swap, it should be 4:1 swap.
Please investors I am fairly curious about your thoughts on this. I'm sure not many coins sent for swap so people get Omicron for perhaps 100 satoshi, 200 satoshi. It will make our investment dust and they will earn shares they don't deserve with 10,000 omicron in wallets.
Gladimor, you know this is by no means a fud. As an investor, im trying to watch over my investment. Thanks for your time.
Oh and burn rest of the coins reserved for the swap. Please make this happen or Omicron will go to dust as they will dump big time.
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I know long term holders aren't interested in the daily price, but its good to see a nice long term rise is definetly happenining. Its always a good time to buy as soon as the price reaches this line. This for everybody that is thinking to invest in the project long term as most of us do. Here it is:  |
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I think new coins have no chance in these long mining periods. They are destined to be forgetten and their chain stops moving as no one will find it worth to direct any kind of hash at it. Small mining periods and than a solid PoS (with v3) would do a better job. Anyway good luck with your coin.
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@dev can this be mined??? is there a windows or linux based wallets ?
Let me answer that for you. No, it cannot be mined. There will be a windows wallet at launch but im not sure about linux wallet, probably you will have to pull it from github and build it yourself. Also Gladimor, please come to slack when you have time. I have a very important question that buggled me all day long. |
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Gladimor confirmed on slack that he will indeed try for polo afterwards. Right now the nearest plan is to get on to bittrex with I guess paying fees as soon as the coin is released. Which is a very, very good beginning considering bittrex is the second largest exchange out there. I like seeing the investments increase and also wonder how many of them are going to keep at least 10,000 omicron to become shareholders.
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Those 30 btc coming in were really good  Not sure having such a big whale will be good for the currency . Currently he holds almost 70-75% of the supply. I hope there will be more investors joining, so this doesn't become a whale toy. He currently has about half that percentage (maybe 35%) - you forgot to include the coins swapped from BXT and DCRe. And that 35% should fall as more people buy in. A whale is always good. Proves that there is indeed powerful backers of the project. Other than that, how many do you think have been swapped for bxt and dcre. Since it was at the beginning, I think we can now the exact number. Any prediction you can give to us Gladimor? |
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How do I actually withdraw my Stratis from the website dashboard? I've put in my wallet address put still waiting for transaction to occur?
Hey dolph are you trying to withdraw from Bittrex exchange? If that is the case you have to confirm your withdraw request via email they send you. Otherwise you will have to wait. If you already confirmed the email just wait and the coins will eventually appear in your wallet. |
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Its good to know community working as much as the devs. While we are looking at weekly releases, which will be in a day or two, also community has pushed its limits to market shadowcash in China. I have heard that video translations, website translations and talks with btc38 are almost done. Im sure Chinese market will love and embrace the potential of shadowcash and will just love it.
On the other side, the price was resistant no matter what happened to btc price and serious accumulation was going on. We could expect a spike before the release and maybe a upper floor.
I said only a few weeks ago that we will soon look back at SDC prices as being dirt cheap. That statement has already come true over the last 10 days or so. I will say again that current prices are going to look dirt cheap in another few weeks or months. The long term potential of SDC is truly incredible, because of all the coins out there, SDC is really the complete package. It is just a matter of time before the doubters figure it out. Alot of users believe what the legendary users are saying and a lot of them preach XMR, you are saying the other thing. Do you mean that SDC is better than monero? Let us know becuase we'll be buing more of this SDC if so. Nobody can say if its better or not. The market decides it. Currently what can be clearly said is that shadowcash is underpriced. It still has a low marketcap and have more things to offer than other coins above it. The value will steadily increase with this weekly releases as it will offer more and more to the users, finalizing with the marketplace where users will not have to depend on centralized dnm's. Its already known that any dnm can and will eventually shut down and its just a matter of time. I can't even begin to think how many users got burned because the marketplace they use suddenly dissapear from tor network. Putting those currencies that forms a fund and gives dividends or shares aside, the very purpose of cryptocurrency is to become medium of exchange. You should be able to buy and sell goods and services with it while being anonymous. The privacy and the needed trustless marketplace comes in a package with Shaodwcash. With China enterence near the door, I'm pretty sure we will see a new floor on the price. please help, what size should be wallet.dat file? Accidentally deleted data, and now I can not restore the size of my 80 kb
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Its good to know community working as much as the devs. While we are looking at weekly releases, which will be in a day or two, also community has pushed its limits to market shadowcash in China. I have heard that video translations, website translations and talks with btc38 are almost done. Im sure Chinese market will love and embrace the potential of shadowcash and will just love it.
On the other side, the price was resistant no matter what happened to btc price and serious accumulation was going on. We could expect a spike before the release and maybe a upper floor.
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All these serial scrypt coins released lately must be from the same person. Giant coin supply over 1 billion, slow as hell block times, giant premine. Lame as hell.
Indeed. They are mostly wallet-builders coins anyway. I don't think a coin has a chance with long pow period these times, unless its something like zcash. Eventually it will die. Having a short period of PoW than switching to PoS seems more logical at this time. Owner of the coin will probably dump his premine and will create a new wallet builders coin right away. |
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Yobit is working fine, I not only sent my signature campaign earnings to my yobit balance but also withdrawn it in my blockchain wallet.
I think we should have patience when blaming or accusing someone because it takes too much time to build a reputation and few seconds to destroy it.
Yobit took time but they resolved the issue and that is always better than never, so I would advice all to have patience before accusing someone and learn to differentiate between those ‘who are in trouble’ and those who are ‘scammers’.
Either way, this happened the second time. First time I bought some shadowcash to artitage, took them several hours to process my withdrawel request. Now second time, its been more than 2 days, and my 57 shadowcash withdraw request is still processing. Their wallet seems to be online and on the blockchain. I've sent them several tickets, personal message through forums and couple of messsages in trollbox. No answer at all. I can wait 2 days for withdrawel but I want an answer. Getting no answer at all buggles me and also loses money because I'm losing my chance to arbitage. I've been trading on Yobit for 2 years now, even when the highest volume of a coin was 10 btc I still trusted them and deposited lots of bitcoins. I just want an simple answer. |
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